Hi Alexander,
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:22:11 +0200 Alexander wrote:
(You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP
authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.)
Just one question - the test mail you were sending with Netscape, did
you send it through
25-Jul-2003 19:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I
wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works.
Thanks for the explanation. Well, with the dozens of ways to authenticate
these days, who'd mind a poor little server get confused? :-)
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Best regards,
Dear Peter,
On 19:51 25.07.2003, you [Peter Palmreuther] wrote...
As it seems the server does expect end enforce the parameter passing
method when AUTH=PLAIN is used. To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I
wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works.
We notice this on Exim, both 3.x
Hello Johannes,
On Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 2:47:24 PM you [JP] wrote (at least in
part):
As it seems the server does expect end enforce the parameter passing
method when AUTH=PLAIN is used. To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I
wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works.
JP We
25-Jul-2003 03:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP
authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.)
A Just one question - the test mail you were sending with Netscape, did you
A send it through ChoiceMail, or directly
Hello, Alexander, all:
I believe I've sent some log extracts to the list recently, so won't
do that again today. But I've not had this experience where a message
is first rejected and then accepted. I appreciate your analysis.
The best thing now I expect is that we find a way to make this
Hello Alexander,
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:22:11 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 17:22 +0700 GMT),
Alexander wrote:
The message is sent, but only after an initial error. It would be
interesting to see what the server actually says, but I don't know how to
intercept the command/reply exchange.
You can do
On Friday, July 25, 2003 at 11:22 AM, Alexander wrote:
Hmmm. Thats what I was suspecting. I have the feeling that TB is not as
fault tolerant for misbehaving SMTP-servers, or something. Here's what
happens to me *every* time...
25.07.2003, 12:12:17: SEND - sending mail messages - 1
23-Jul-2003 20:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP
authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.)
Just one question - the test mail you were sending with Netscape, did you
send it through ChoiceMail, or directly to
Hello, Terry:
Thanks much for this wonderful explanation. Now, how do we get all
this into a knowledge base for the benefit of other Batters in the
future? (I'll assume that the use of SMTP authentication will only
grow.)
Let me read it twice again and we'll see if I can fully grok it.
:-)
Hello, Alexander:
In the case of the Netscape mail client, I set the Outgoing server
name to the ChoiceMail proxy server: 127.0.01. I.e. not to the (direct
connection) SMTP address at SBC (DSL) that I was eventually forced to
use for The Bat.
In Netscape, along with that 127.0.01, I also
Greetings,
(I'll provide details when I see that this message sent from Netscape
and not The Bat makes it through to the list.)
Thank you.
David
Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:
Hello, Allie:
I've been a satisfied user of The Bat for 2-3 years.
About a year ago, I installed ChoiceMail (to control spam) in line with
The Bat v. 1.62i. The SMTP (Port 25) and POP (Port 110) servers were
then both changed to 127.0.01, for ChoiceMail.
A week ago, I changed from a dialup to
Hello David,
But I am unable to configure The Bat to send mail with SMTP
authentication through ChoiceMail. (The Bat will still POP mail just
fine.)
Have you tested and been able to send mail with SMTP authentication
WITHOUT going through ChoiceMail?
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El
Hello David!
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 9:27 AM, you wrote:
D But I am unable to configure The Bat to send mail with SMTP
D authentication through ChoiceMail. (The Bat will still POP
D mail just fine.)
Try Account/Properties/Mail Transport and click on the authentication
button beside the
Hi David,
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 3:27 PM, David wrote:
But I am unable to configure The Bat to send mail with SMTP
authentication through ChoiceMail. (The Bat will still POP mail just
fine.)
Have you tried it with ChoiceMail shut down, i.e. connecting directly
using TB?
What is TB
Hello, MAU:
OK, I am testing it that way now.
I am changing one setting: the SMTP was the one that Netscape has been
using successfully via ChoiceMail/SBCGlobal.
It is now the setting that ChoiceMail/ SBCGlobal uses directly.
But still, no joy.
Thank you for your idea.
David
M Hello David,
Hi David,
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:27:21 -0400 David Austen wrote:
But I am unable to configure The Bat to send mail with SMTP
authentication through ChoiceMail.
What do the logs say?[tm]
Ctrl+Shift+A should reveal an error message we'll need for better
guessing.
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Ciao,
Pit
Hello, Mary:
I appreciate your suggestion. Actually, I have had that box (MB Use
Settings of Mail Retrieval.) ticked for
some time and that does not help.
But it makes me curious about the purpose of this box, and the actual
affect this would have.
BTW, I also tried POP authentication and
Hello David!
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 11:11 AM, you wrote, in part:
D But it makes me curious about the purpose of this box [Use
D Settings of Mail Retrieval.] and the actual affect this would
D have.
I'm curious, also. I was pretty sure you would have already done such
a simple thing,
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Hello, all:,
1. (David,) Have you tried it with ChoiceMail shut down, i.e. connecting
directly using TB?
Yes. And THIS time it works. That is, SMTP on both send and receive.
Without CMail active or even in the chain.
2. What is TB log telling you when you try?
(Please see log in previous
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Dear David,
DA Yes. And THIS time it works. That is, SMTP on both send and receive.
DA Without CMail active or even in the chain.
So, the problem was solved by removing CMail? If so, my guess is that
it does not process PLAIN authentication mechanism (which
Hello Allie, MAU, Mary, Terry, Peter and Stefan:
Thank you for your kind assistance.
(You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP
authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.)
It looks like I MAY have solved the problem now, in 2 steps.
First, I set
Hello David,
Now, I apparently still have spam protection thanks to Choicemail AND
also outgoing SMTP authentication.
Glad to know you have solved the problem :-)
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v1.62i
Hi David,
Glad to know that you can bypass ChoiceMail and it will work. That
just seemed like a lot of unnecessary overhead.
Actually, I have had that box Use Settings of Mail Retrieval
ticked for some time and that does not help.
But it makes me curious about the purpose of this box, and
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