PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 When I receive a PGP/GPG-signed message, there is the icon in the upper right which can be clicked to verify the signature. Most such messages then begin with the following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- However, I've noticed some have the icon, presumably indicating it's been signed, but there is no begin and end tags, and if I click on the icon on those messages, I get the message there is nothing to verify/import. Is this a bug in TB!, or is there something I can do to display the signature for checking? - -- Thanks, Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.52 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJFQMv7AAoJELf6ImSjvaeWJHMP/izOMrEiwmx3FSWSQkZDhCx4 iO4WsI3MuHHtZZW5PfNAfjk1DaLgDkgpBmT5YzANRSN7w4Za600+7EbIRWIEEGtk EdSS4/sl8v56J2yGkDsJ5a79FD5IfwBNdRFyskcre/tcVMO2tMYt5+RCIh6LTOOf T0oUXv3hX1mcAEd44ibypJGy5UfHIUyyZ4cao5+TQ+MY09UsPbJFqVtJWdfExEhD kavu5IVEh0GwOvOE8kTvcVK1/Q2TabjydAbKgDifcVNxiYpZvp1SaRnJt3dHu2P6 qBz74y4zjJzUHfBj9IH0Nm66AR0f80IdwjA1G2IH++FjgH5vx+Fvbpe8T0fssrMB WBuXL4Iq0J0meUEBoFl/x6pw+d4BETNppP3dlCPmGBMDvKmdF1wnGQu5A/nRXEag 0vW+mK+OZHsrPbNjIZ/Xskp4R10GMD1mfBdl4VK/56ZNY+eqYIhSLusLJ8PBHZLg 7TiibWt1ZW6hF5Axei+Z5yW0trwOd9Mkihpv0OY9kITWMHijuUAv9vWj7liSY3ba VYM9vmXGN8fNuZkJ8LI/q6TxZc5ByEFzLD4zcr59HoGnYDAe2zl3TSSkP0Rxia5k psTO1F+UczYX0P/5n/mwPp7WgZONKanj8nrCJqbDPmg5LAOaXOTocRjB21DBv2Qt O+OzeN1LuUbnIfHGaMF8 =CysD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 26 Oct 2006, @ @ at 19:53:51 +0500, when Richard H. Stoddard wrote: When I receive a PGP/GPG-signed message, there is the icon in the upper right which can be clicked to verify the signature. Most such messages then begin with the following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- However, I've noticed some have the icon, presumably indicating it's been signed, but there is no begin and end tags, and if I click on the icon on those messages, I get the message there is nothing to verify/import. Is this a bug in TB!, or is there something I can do to display the signature for checking? Shortly said and simplest, Bat still cannot handle properly such type of PGP/GPG signature, and it is already a very long time present and not fixed problem, so I suppose it is something that exceeds the current creative capacities. This however is not a reason for us to get sad, for we can enjoy in other aspects of the united collective efforts, like watching the amusing and of higher priority work of MUFF (Ministry of Useless Funny/Fine Features, Department of Silly Wishes), recently even o'fishelly established, to give a touch of seriousness and glamor to the random play of the remaining handful of sharp although a discrete bit cross eyed gray cells. If I am wrong, I, of course, apologize, what else. Anyway, the safest way to sign a message in Bat is therefore by using the clear signature (when the part -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE is visible). File fine and may the Force of Patience be with you, the Bat Explorer. - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4298 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRUEF4rSpHvHEUtv8AQjUrAf9HH5tQ82Kp4Tq329aUTWMFBTCsH1cE0f3 YnXfKtqCXGaAjDeY7vL3HKHGRI2ygGo/VNdqIM577gcmNd1gDn+sQUszvweRDavr COM3nwb685kEIdhb1lFR4Q/TGsEF8PzZ/7qS8j+FGtgi/6se3j6CdbgU4lRbRNol O4RlyxclsXTwYnOR2IOFV0Fb4q4JyQQde7ndVOk85GDVB4/sPgayK6zW6UdjLJmC I5Uf4NGSDtjELH4jlEhMo0oWUmkmKEKWGosogB53SpY+5e3fwqLrnrVGA344Samg MafDEO1Jtv1gbB811CvvoGQuTO6oc8Cz1pZdyuW8TE3kXXskVraCTw== =gG0T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Richard H. Stoddard @ 2006-10-26 9:53:51 AM PGP-signed messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I've noticed some have the icon, presumably indicating it's been signed, but there is no begin and end tags, and if I click on the icon on those messages, I get the message there is nothing to verify/import. Is this a bug in TB!, or is there something I can do to display the signature for checking? I've never encountered this error myself. Are the messages PGP/MIME signed? For example, this message is PGP/MIME signed. You shouldn't see the signature data unless you look at the message source. However, in the message list, the envelope should have a little icon on it. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together. pgpSpREmofwFd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Chris, Friday, October 27, 2006, 5:00:32 AM, you wrote: CW Richard H. Stoddard @ 2006-10-26 9:53:51 AM CW PGP-signed messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I've noticed some have the icon, presumably indicating it's been signed, but there is no begin and end tags, and if I click on the icon on those messages, I get the message there is nothing to verify/import. Is this a bug in TB!, or is there something I can do to display the signature for checking? CW For example, this message is PGP/MIME signed. You shouldn't see CW the signature data unless you look at the message source. However, CW in the message list, the envelope should have a little icon on it. I tinkered with settings on GnuPG and gpgtray some more last night, and it'll now check when I click on the icon. Obviously using gpgtray there is nothing, but TB!'s integrated gpg will check. However, for your message I still got the message that the public key wasn't found; perhaps I should have had it check more keyservers. - -- Thanks, Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJFQVhyAAoJELf6ImSjvaeWNEQP/1Z/vQ9S3TCUKT+cWXoixnYg LHlXUyW6aei+gGhRSURGKdz29NnwXIw/+xnH2FMxmZPERhBTpXYD053p3S+G0KVN zAyniZVi9Hag354BlM0jd45Lnr3ib88hYtUzHGcYi/AE6fnFd8LT9PxZYZvv212o 6Y1RIIaIJOrqx201s52HUSLHROfhq7XjKeCddp31ynYAqAlBOzENnJ6qISuN8hUJ 0AxRhbhhwZFIUCivaKNC0ljS7Oq4QqCzFKKxFTvA8QnzPwL6ndITPtpCEwtB+GuH 08WbnEjoD40FuVsHdUdAJkUwvDQlWVczrqpY2iTzYD3i06UPyJRLRd+QKuBrLzi4 fxyc2ffufxec2Yqoau+uRh2EUzfarLfL4j2SOlXwYwDTTo10jDuOjRpIb1Jr6t5h WtGn2nc+x3psgixUurEj1GZ/sreq7QaJuFv/w6qTnE9emQuXv7RfmOTu0AERD/eV viDCCsg/xe1PIuN2V3zR5yzgsCa9aLiDhbnRKqQq4IpPkb1MpWbGSIeYZas38FRo y1fTOQMoMAtZs8yw3ABa2xzpxYk8f2yJOoxL7BNKDDem0F163mCD/O9FQTATJgIe 8FyhYRLcz4O0TK5+JLYvheW0KS8K+7sGyxGlKlHB+N0yOZQJqzflK3tIooPve/Yy MJifMj31JkbzPsihPeOJ =d8zc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mica, Friday, October 27, 2006, 12:00:52 AM, you wrote: MM Shortly said and simplest, Bat still cannot handle properly such MM type of PGP/GPG signature, and it is already a very long time MM present and not fixed problem, so I suppose it is something that MM exceeds the current creative capacities. I finally did get it to work, at least for the moment. Its integrated gpg also now works for signing messages, at least for the moment. I guess part of the problem is having switched over from PGP to GnuPG on the fly and not had the time to sit down and RTFM as carefully as I should; I just haven't found one specific guide that covers all aspects of gpg and front-ends like gpgtray. Oneof these weekends, maybe... Thanks again for your help and sympathies. - -- Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJFQVnlAAoJELf6ImSjvaeWMmQP/1w9HGwvp3uo+L1K5BzIYIG/ uDK2y41qFF/I8dFXckr6SUavfU155f8wqjbop4KB/oXnhllY+W6CekQTG5NxnOj3 11JG/CgDUIgg8sEyVHZGZVScWeGld57d5JeuTiFhldu1qGaVwgZsmdBsg+zVwmre QUQ0HEvGWo3XFKEotjFyqFPYRnzQh7TEpbsxBke9HVu7ry5XUj1FN5Aap6Kv5L7G vBU0CtqJIYl4rpObBuVDD4I0AR3ET23+wce5VViDQGcRqdpCDD3RY44jncc3DpVo w2CWnIjVgcYtNLaLmbCWBbMDz9iE3IL9e0xiilZoccyouIPnKrM2wPosvAOVCHWU E81QMM6k9jRKxgudoeTdfC+GjH6Juwgs3UrpIRlD13UKUKWAIdw8UoSWj2gYuvzI DLfF0NfbQzxMX6CyjIXCIJJaBr5LIYfbM1u6JVAIeK9rC8v886Hud7WK9AqsQu2X pCve0Ln3tLfmEvl1Ya29mXOouKd3clfNQwT4y8lagZBAXP9PWUMXqRzNqSCsrUv7 uQFwajkwd8oYXEoooUIWE8/h4j6KS0fO+/+PPihwk8UvLwNx3gdGNbgtFuALmsCA BnJ5H45MC1zGI5GUxByTQuPo9LzTVrAh41DhCAv9FrVg1UeN7bCvmG6XmHHXr2JL QLtdlTCEwiCZBVtz63xF =gqjc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Richard H. Stoddard @ 2006-10-26 7:53:11 PM PGP-signed messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, for your message I still got the message that the public key wasn't found; perhaps I should have had it check more keyservers. My public key is available via (at least) blackhole.pca.dfn.de. For some reason, it has disappeared from keyserver.pgp.com. I'll add it again. I've also sent it to you via PM. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. I just found the last bug. pgpk1EP1Vzl9t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signed Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:36 PM Why sometimes the messages are signed in the body and others goes in a signed file separated. (forgive mi english i still learning) greetings - -- B R i a N S Using The Bat! 2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: La libertad solo existe cuando no es de nadie Carlos Varela. iD8DBQFAh/XpXwFULw1Wr5kRAncKAJ4oYHULsldI7IHdWgE8EPY+uOB7XwCgnULq v0fbQh6Odw0pOpkn8i+jsQw= =yFoO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signed Messages
Hello B, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 10:42:17 AM, you wrote: B Why sometimes the messages are signed in the body and others goes B in a signed file separated. It depends if they use just PGP signing or PGP-MIME signing. The latter being in a file. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.10 RC/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signed Messages
Dear B, @22-Apr-2004, 12:42 -0400 (22-Apr 17:42 UK time) B R i a N S [BRI] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BRI Why sometimes the messages are signed in the body and others BRI goes in a signed file separated. As Leif said, this is the difference between PGP/MIME and plain PGP. TB is usually set to do auto-PGP/MIME. It decides for itself whether (from the help file): o a message includes attachments o a message is created using HTML or other Rich Text format o a non-ASCII character set is used in the message text o the message text contains lines longer than 76 characters o the message text has lines beginning with From (some mail servers may add a symbol at the start destroying the cryptographic integrity of such a message) o the message text contains lines with trailing spaces like the standard dashdashspace signature separator (some mail servers may strip trailing spaces destroying the cryptographic integrity of such a message) These are all reasons for the 'auto' to choose to use PGP/MIME. You can change the default behaviour by use of the PGP/MIME menu options or by the use of special macros, which you can include in templates. %NOPGPMIME or %CLEARSIGN to force plain text signing or %PGPMIME to force PGP/MIME signing. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Hi Edgar, on Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:57:57 +0200GMT (18.10.03, 18:57 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : E I Use only the %SIGNCOMPLETE (and have Enable OpenPGP on in the E account (under options)) E Must I use the %USEPGP also then? No, I mentioned it just in case it should apply only to this template. -- Cheers Peter Lottery: A tax on people who don't understand statistics. Winamp currently playing: Man - The Chimes At Midnight pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP-signed messages
Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon meanss. http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif C Are you using custom glyphs? What is your color depth? No custom 'glyphs' or anything (I only just heard of them!), and my display properties are: 1027x768 hi color 16 bit Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed v.2.01, and TB! now displays PGP-signed messages in two different ways. Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing list footer. I initially thought that the latter was unique to the list, but I've seen the normal signed message from the list as well. Anyone know why? Is there anything I can change to standardize on one format or the other? - -- Richard H. Stoddard PGP Request: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x899FEAAB Comment: Fingerprint: 0F58 92FF 24DC B847 9A85 6ED4 9EAF FD46 899F EAAB iQA/AwUBP4+vPJ6v/UaJn+qrEQITiQCgovIPjjv/lWktHEvcG8xvZq8699QAoODj DOUyp/98bnp9p9DB5FWPk2ha =Iw6/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
RHS snip, snip PGP-signed messages snip show RHS the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif -- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Hi Richard, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:58:40 +0500GMT (17.10.03, 15:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RHS I just installed v.2.01, and TB! now displays PGP-signed messages in RHS two different ways. Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed RHS Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. This is an inline signature that you can get by typing ctrl+shift+S (or menu Privacy -- OpenPGP -- Sign entire text). RHS Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing RHS list footer. This one is achieved by selecting the option Sign when complete - I'm not sure how this kind of sig is called. RHS I initially thought that the latter was unique to the RHS list, but I've seen the normal signed message from the list as well. RHS Anyone know why? Is there anything I can change to standardize on one RHS format or the other? You can standardize the second kind with %USEPGP%SIGNCOMPLETE in your template. -- Cheers Peter The number one cause of computer problems is computer solutions. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
On Friday, October 17, 2003 at 10:35:27 AM, rich gregory wrote in the message PGP-signed messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif Are you using custom glyphs? What is your color depth? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. To define recursion, we must first define recursion. Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Friday, October 17, 2003, Richard H. Stoddard wrote: Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing list footer. snip Anyone know why? The latter are done with PGP/MIME whereas the previous are not. PGP/MIME is not unique to the list, but it will not work with TB 1.63 or dysfunctional pieces of software (i.e. Outlook). -- Urban The skeleton is what is left after the insides have been taken out and the outsides have ben taken off. The purpose of the skeleton is something to hitch meat to. Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. RG http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif Ouch! The icons should look like this: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/sigicons.png The top icon is the unverified signature. The middle icon shows up when the signature is bad. I got that for Peter's reply to you. The bottom icon shows up when the signature verifies as good. They're quite nice looking actually. :) I'm not quite sure why you're seeing what you're seeing. Screen corruption? Display adapter/driver issue? Using custom glyphs? -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
AM This is more than signature destruction. I see no signatures at all or AM any evidence of there ever being one. :/ I'm pretty sure that this is a bug. If I create a message in a common folder and the template changes the active account, then only some of the settings for that account at applied; the 'Sign on Complete' not being one of them. -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... 6.66% 5 year APR for HP Beast, Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
I've given up on trying to get the '%ACCOUNT=' macro to do the thing for me so I've moved my TB! common folders so that they are now under my signing account. Tests suggest that it works, however, I've still yet to actually /see/ my sig in a message. -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.com The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Hemming, [SH] wrote: SH I've given up on trying to get the '%ACCOUNT=' macro to do the thing SH for me so I've moved my TB! common folders so that they are now SH under my signing account. Tests suggest that it works, however, I've SH still yet to actually /see/ my sig in a message. You're using v1.63 beta/11 and this is the likely problem since this beta supports PGP/MIME and will automatically send PGP/MIME signatures as needed if you explicitly prevent this. Attachments aren't allowed on TBUDL so the list server will strip the PGP/MIME signature block. I suggest signing with PGP/MIME disabled. Editor == Privacy//PGP/MIME//Off You can test PGP/MIME on TBBETA. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on WinXP Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iEYEARECAAYFAj7tnLEACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LVwwCgjVPjN6hQwB/uTUGQjF0RXOr3 5/QAnRDKZRGoVUOQt6DgycMR3hnGe81N =z4YL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
AM I suggest signing with PGP/MIME disabled. Editor == AM Privacy//PGP/MIME//Off What I don't understand is why this is on Or auto in fact) when, in my account I have use S/Mime UNchecked! -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keys.pgp.com ... I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Hemming, [SH] wrote: SH What I don't understand is why this is on Or auto in fact) when, in SH my account I have use S/Mime UNchecked! S/MIME is very different from PGP/MIME. S/MIME is supported in the current version of TB! and has been supported for a long time. PGP/MIME support is currently in beta. All your current problems are as a result of using the beta, so I suggest sending further queries on this to TBBETA. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on WinXP Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iEYEARECAAYFAj7tqNoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IyfwCfZZa+++ZnKQ7UWpWtD8cqULle /csAoOwpdwzMS22+Kr+Eg9jfHf529+UE =ZoKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
AM All your current problems are as a result of using the beta, so I AM suggest sending further queries on this to TBBETA. 'K -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keys.pgp.com ... IAM 666 License plate number of the Beast Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, June 16, 2003, 10:33:50 AM, Stuart wrote: AM This is more than signature destruction. I see no signatures at AM all or any evidence of there ever being one. :/ I'm pretty sure that this is a bug. If I create a message in a common folder and the template changes the active account, then only some of the settings for that account at applied; the 'Sign on Complete' not being one of them. Don't know if it is a bug or a feature :))), but I have the same setup and I just checked. If your default mailto account has Sign on complete enabled, messages which are sent from common folders will have signature, wheather you change the account via template or not. Also, if your default mailto account has Sign on complete disabled, messages won't get automatically signed from common folders. I have account properties/general/this account is default for mailto links enabled, and signing from common folders works. :) So you can either enable signing for default mailto account, or use %SIGNCOMPLETE in template which you use to change account. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPu2oQLgeqlQz+rfkEQKIMACfagVuTrEP7ql1LRGBiiyfnuuUAZ0An25w nuG0xeC3WbhewXtXeyPg1TIS =sczK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DK use %SIGNCOMPLETE in template which you use to change account. And this is the one I've gone for. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keys.pgp.com ... Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, Where have I gone wrong? a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one night. (Charlie Brown) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPu3RfNttnLhkydF1EQJMuQCeKkWTDqX+ucEjavHu4WqF9CdzvNQAn3FO T6P8AepSLw5SdnyW0PyI7/xK =6Drg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
Marck, how are you signing your messages? I'm using built-in support for v8. I can see your pgpsig but not mine. -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.com The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @12-Jun-2003, 14:38 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SH how are you signing your messages? SH I'm using built-in support for v8. Same way. SH I can see your pgpsig but not mine. Yours may be losing out because of the delivery method you are forced to use because of the disclaimer. I know that Allie has had to report bugs in message processing back to the manufacturers of his mail server software because they are not dealing correctly with PGP/MIME messages. In fact, anyone who is behind an outbound server with a disclaimer stamping policy is unlikely to be able successfully sign any messages since they are, by definition, going to be modified by the server on the way out, thus destroying signature integrity. (Of course, many of these 'addenda' will appear after the signature and shouldn't really compromise the message body, but I like to have a rant about it every now and again g). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPuiH7TnkJKuSnc2gEQI5ygCfVD0wYAxoB1qIfBPYnaVFoiC4PO0AoLCZ UNgCKilEmxeO3mqNhZCsWuU6 =LkJF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
MDP Yours may be losing out because of the delivery method you are MDP forced to use because of the disclaimer. I know that Allie has had MDP to report bugs in message processing back to the manufacturers of MDP his mail server software because they are not dealing correctly with MDP PGP/MIME messages. Good point. I'll mail Allie and see if he can think of anything. -- Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... 0.666 Number of the Millibeast Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.com The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marck D Pearlstone, [MDP] wrote: SH I can see your pgpsig but not mine. MDP Yours may be losing out because of the delivery method you are MDP forced to use because of the disclaimer. I know that Allie has had MDP to report bugs in message processing back to the manufacturers of MDP his mail server software because they are not dealing correctly MDP with PGP/MIME messages. True. Upon reviewing all of Stuart's messages that I've been relaying, none of them have been PGP signed. At least, not the copies I've received for processing. MDP In fact, anyone who is behind an outbound server with a disclaimer MDP stamping policy is unlikely to be able successfully sign any MDP messages since they are, by definition, going to be modified by the MDP server on the way out, thus destroying signature integrity. This is more than signature destruction. I see no signatures at all or any evidence of there ever being one. :/ - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on WinXP Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iEYEARECAAYFAj7pBcgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LupwCgsByTYvWrOBIULXqUli+7seDK UyAAoOQo2/bTc5SRpRx1O/ZwARWJTN9p =9St8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
Anyone else got any thoughts on this? -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending signed messages
If I have 'Sign when complete' checked and I send the message, shouldn't I be able to see the pgp signature block in the message? If not in TB! then say if I view the message on the receiving server? Or am I missing the point? -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @10-Jun-2003, 14:37 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:: SH If I have 'Sign when complete' checked and I send the message, SH shouldn't I be able to see the pgp signature block in the SH message? If not in TB! then say if I view the message on the SH receiving server? SH Or am I missing the point? You may be missing one point - that PGP should be enabled as well as Sign when complete. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPuXkHTnkJKuSnc2gEQJMcwCfV4uHmEpTKdfZ355dWNE45ywUi20AoPcY DxkIOf0Lw03I68xmRUnTWJw2 =0OvX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
MDP You may be missing one point - that PGP should be enabled as well as MDP Sign when complete. Indeed it is; I get the 'using cached passphrase' dialogue when I send the message. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
Sorry, this should have been in TBBETA. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ... If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
