Re: That Spell Checker
Hi On Wednesday 8 January 2014 at 5:20:16 AM, in mid:1545982258.20140107232...@jimkyle.com, Jim Kyle wrote: I've now installed the 4.0 international pack, and have both British and American checked on the Languages dialog -- but still no American English dictionary shows up. Apparently having British checked overrides it. Any suggestion for being able to add words to the American English dictionary? Here, in TB! Pro 4.0.38 with just British English ticked, I can add or delete words in dictionaries for about 17 languages. (Well, I tried about three languages including American English; I wasn't about to try all of them.) If you can't see the American dictionary in the menu, I guess it didn't install. Maybe you can select which languages to install when running the International Pack installer? Can you add words to any language's dictionary other than British English? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com If you are afraid to speak against tyranny, then you are already a slave. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hi On Wednesday 8 January 2014 at 4:41:12 AM, in mid:693229763.20140107224...@jimkyle.com, Jim Kyle wrote: Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer Since my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than 4.2.28. Right? My guess would be it doesn't matter too much, unless something relevant to this function changed between those version numbers. There would be some logic in picking the number closest to your TB! version, as there were less releases in between where things may have been changed. Or try both... -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Always be on the lookout for conspicuousness Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 5:06:11 PM, you wrote: My guess would be it doesn't matter too much, unless something relevant to this function changed between those version numbers. There would be some logic in picking the number closest to your TB! version, as there were less releases in between where things may have been changed. Or try both.. Thanks for the help! I did some more searching on the drive that holds TB; it's not the system drive itself but another, larger one. I found a couple of copies of the whole TB directory, stemming from long-ago disasters, and one of them held three *.TLX files. One of them was the AM version; the others are named ACCENT.TLX and CORRECT.TLX. Apparently the last time I installed TB, some 5 or 6 years ago, I somehow failed to get the spell checker fully functional although enough of it did get in to provide me the squiggly red line beneath unrecognized words. I copied all three over to the active directory where the international pack had put all the others, re-started TB, and everything now seems to work properly or at least as I would expect. I can add words, both as words to be accepted and as words to be corrected, and they persist from day to day. The only question I have left involves the format of TLX files; I'd like to find a help file or article that exposes their details. They appear to be plain text, one word to a line, and entries in the WinXP registry tell TB which of them to use -- but they have a few mysteries, and I always want to know what goes on behind the curtain (as in Undocumented DOS, a book I co-authored some 23 years ago). I'm also curious about the ACCENT.TLX file and why it's different from the language-specific ones... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hi On Monday 6 January 2014 at 8:09:40 PM, in mid:478699953.20140106140...@jimkyle.com, Jim Kyle wrote: My question is how to update my dictionary, or possibly install an alternate such as hunspell's en-us.zip package, on such an old copy of TB. Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the International Pack installed? See https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/diff.php for differences between TB! Home and Pro. International Pack version 4.2.38 or 4.0.36 is still available from RITlabs website at https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_version.php. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote: Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the International Pack installed? Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer Since my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than 4.2.28. Right? -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote: Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the International Pack installed? I've now installed the 4.0 international pack, and have both British and American checked on the Languages dialog -- but still no American English dictionary shows up. Apparently having British checked overrides it. Any suggestion for being able to add words to the American English dictionary? -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 3:41:12 PM, you wrote: JK Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote: Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the International Pack installed? JK Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer Since JK my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than JK 4.2.28. Right? The International Pack is a separate program so you can uninstall it later if you don't like it. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Law of Logical Argument-Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Jim, Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 6:41:12 AM, among other things, you wrote: JK Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote: Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the International Pack installed? JK Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer Since JK my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than JK 4.2.28. Right? You just have to install the International Pack -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v6.2.2.2 (BETA) (32bit) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Thursday, December 19, 2013, 1:30:42 PM, you wrote: is yours SSCE or hunspell? I have a similar question about spell checking, but as you can see by mysig I'm on a much older version of TB. My spell checking options don't list ANY dictionary at all, and attempting to add a word has absolutely no effect. I do have import and export buttons, and my TB program directory includes a hunspell.dll but I don't see any references in the option menus. My question is how to update my dictionary, or possibly install an alternate such as hunspell's en-us.zip package, on such an old copy of TB. TB has evolved in a direction that seems of no use for my needs, which is why I'm still on such an old package. The spell checker is the only wart on it, for my uses, and it's not bad enough to cause me to change (which would be going completely away, if I did, and I'm unwilling to abandon the great filtering capability of TB!)... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hi On Friday 20 December 2013 at 9:20:48 PM, in mid:133198598.20131220132...@hughes.net, Chasonek wrote: On my computer I see both SSCE Hunspell, but my wife only sees SSCE, and the problem that I see is that I have MS Office installed and she does not. In my case, MS Office is present and I only see SSCE in TB!'s spell checker settings (Hunspell is greyed out). I have tryed to get her to install MS Office, but she won't let me, to see if that is the diffence? Maybe you could set up a test windows account, install TB! there and see if Hunspell and SSCE are both present. If not, install MS Office there as well, and then see if Hunspell and SSCE are both present. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Roses smell better than onions but don't make such good soup Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
All Mail Virus Checked on it's way out, AND Virus Checked And Spam Checked on it's way in. Using The Bat! Version 6.1.2.2 Thursday, December 19, 2013, 11:55:28 AM, you wrote: Scuddy Hello Robert, Scuddy A reminder of what Robert D. typed on: Scuddy Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 14:30:42 GMT -0500 RD I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last RD name, is still tehre. RD is yours SSCE or hunspell? Scuddy I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out. On my computer I see both SSCE Hunspell, but my wife only sees SSCE, and the problem that I see is that I have MS Office installed and she does not. I have tryed to get her to install MS Office, but she won't let me, to see if that is the diffence? Chas -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
That Spell Checker
what can I do? takling brings up, amongst other choices EXCEPT for talking: My last name; balun; along; asking; duckling; tabling; taking, and so forth SSCE seems selected with Case, typo , select check-marked I just had the issue with 'takling' .. but this happens in nearly every single typographical error I make .. my name is always there as well as other silly guesses. Many times, as with this example, the actual US word is not to be seen. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Robert, A reminder of what Robert D. typed on: Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 13:25:27 GMT -0500 RD what can I do? RD takling RD brings up, amongst other choices EXCEPT for talking: My last name; RD balun; along; asking; duckling; tabling; taking, and so forth Hmm, typing takling here brings up exactly what you would expect. talking taking tackling I have English/American selected. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v6.1.2.2 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Stuart, Thursday, December 19, 2013, 1:50:30 PM, you wrote: Hmm, typing takling here brings up exactly what you would expect. talking taking tackling I have English/American selected. I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last name, is still tehre. is yours SSCE or hunspell? -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Robert, A reminder of what Robert D. typed on: Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 14:30:42 GMT -0500 RD I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last RD name, is still tehre. RD is yours SSCE or hunspell? I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v6.1.4 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Scuddy, Thursday, December 19, 2013, 2:55:28 PM, you wrote: I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out. OK, same here. Then when 'suggestions' do come up for you, are there ancillary, even whimsical suggestions? What I men is I can't come up with a reason for many, of about 15 which appear. just wondered if there was another setting or config I'd botched to allow for trivial results too. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Robert, A reminder of what Robert D. typed on: Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 15:13:31 GMT -0500 RD OK, same here. RD Then when 'suggestions' do come up for you, are there ancillary, even RD whimsical suggestions? I wonder if they are words you added yourself. For example you would probably added your last name because the spell checker would not see it as being spelled correctly, so you would add it so it wasn't always underlined with the squiggly red line. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v6.1.4 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hi On Thursday 19 December 2013 at 8:13:31 PM, in mid:802398849.20131219151...@denstarfarm.us, Robert D. wrote: What I men is I can't come up with a reason for many, of about 15 which appear. Some of the suggestions I see for takling are a little odd, especially the list shown if I click Suggest more One entry there is Stalin just wondered if there was another setting or config I'd botched to allow for trivial results too. I'm only aware of picking the language, importing different dictionaries if those present don't suit you, and the options pane that includes such choices as phonetic suggestions, typographical suggestions, slow but accurate. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com A wise man once said ...I don't know. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
I have noticed this too. I have a word that I added keep popping up inappropriately. -- Rick Cannot open file C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt v6.1.4 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
I wonder if they are words you added yourself. For example you would probably added your last name because the spell checker would not see it as being spelled correctly, so you would add it so it wasn't always underlined with the squiggly red line. I'd suggest going to the Spell Checker menu in a The Bat editor, and clicking on Dictionaries. Check each Dictionary's content (starting with correct.tlx) and rummage around a bit, looking for words that could be deleted and/or added (being careful to chose the correct Action for any you add), etc. It's difficult for me to describe more exactly what I think you should do there (not knowing exactly what you'd find there), but it's worth at least doing some investigating in that Edit Dictionaries dialog box. You can also open the non-compressed *.tlx dictionaries (on my PC, they're accent.tlx, correct.tlx, and Ssceam.tlx, and are located at C:\Users\fred\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Speller\) in a text editor (e.g., NotePad) for examination. However, I would ~not~ recommend editing them there, unless you are fully aware of their file formatting - examine them there if you wish, but edit them through the Edit Dictionaries dialog box. PERHAPS, BEFORE TRYING ~ANY~ OF MY SUGGESTIONS ABOVE, YOU SHOULD FIRST MAKE BACKUP COPIES OF YOUR USER DICTIONARIES BEFORE MAKING ~ANY~ CHANGES. [The compressed *.clx dictionary or dictionaries (on my PC I have Ssceam2.clx located at C:\Program Files (x86)\TheBat!\Speller\) is/are binary, and can't be edited in a text editor. (I also have copies of accent.tlx, correct.tlx, and Ssceam.tlx at that location, but I figure they are not actually my user dictionaries, but perhaps are templates for my actual user dictionaries.)] Fred Using The Bat V.4.2.44.2 for POP mail on Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
dictionary / spell-checker
does anyone else think that the bat needs better dictionary and spell-checker support? for example, spell-checker should exclude single letters so that the process doesn't complain about 'm' when i sign my name 'm.davidson'. it should exclude all words that include punctuation of any kind. i recently sent a link to someone and spell-check complained about 'dsource', 's_dsaddr', and similar non-words. it would be absolutely silly to add non-words to the dictionary as a workaround for the problem. spell-checker should also ignore all URL parts. if this feature already exists, it doesn't work. maybe i'm missing something. if so, perhaps someone will be kind enough to inform me. thanks/regards, .. -- best regards, m.davidson Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Two registry entries for spell checker?
Hi I seem to have two registry entries related to spelling: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller Do I need both or is one of them left behind from an earlier version of TB!? -- Best regards, MFPA Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about Using The Bat! v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello Leonard, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 11:59:16 AM, you wrote: LSB What are the macros for the following that appears in your signature? LSB On Pentium M - 1.4 GHz, 1 GB RAM and 60 GB HDD With MyMacros or zOmbie's Macros and probably others. Some macros no longer work, some might slow down TB! http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00705.html -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker not working?
On Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 11:51:12 PM, you wrote: G'day CDISXM, - On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:13:47 PM, you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ct Could someone tell how I get the computer's configuration macros in Ct my sig template. You add the following text to the template file you use for sending messages to the list. Also, don't forget the sigdash (i.e. two dashes followed by a space as in -- (without the quotes)) otherwise fish comes your way. This should go on a line on its own above what you want to be your signature. Using The Bat! %TheBatVersion %WindowsPlatformName %WindowsMajorVersion.%WindowsMinorVersion Build %WindowsBuildNumber %WindowsCSDVersion What are the macros for the following that appears in your signature? On Pentium M - 1.4 GHz, 1 GB RAM and 60 GB HDD -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, at 16:34:59 [GMT +1100] (16:34:59 25/03/2008 Australian Eastern Time) I wrote: What am I missing here, and apologies for long sig; company policy! Further investigation reveals that the dictionary has not been carried across when the upgrade was done. I've had a scratch around the Rit Labs web site, can't seem to find any there. As I am running the Pro edition, shouldn't the dictionarys be in the proggy? -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello John, On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:15:52 +1100 GMT (25.03.2008, 08:15 +0200 GMT, where I live), you wrote: JP On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, at 16:34:59 [GMT +1100] (16:34:59 25/03/2008 JP Australian Eastern Time) I wrote: What am I missing here, and apologies for long sig; company policy! JP Further investigation reveals that the dictionary has not been JP carried across when the upgrade was done. JP I've had a scratch around the Rit Labs web site, can't seem to find JP any there. JP As I am running the Pro edition, shouldn't the dictionarys be in the JP proggy? Same problem here - no dictionary at all. -- Regards M - Using The Bat! 4.0.18.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Pro Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 3 with 1 Giga. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hallo John, On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:15:52 +1100GMT (25-3-2008, 8:15 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP As I am running the Pro edition, shouldn't the dictionarys be in the JP proggy? I installed 4.0.18 (pro) last week on my new computer (as my old one died on me) My pc has all the SSCE dictionaries in the Speller directory (that's where they've been since v1) Don't be confused with the Dictionaries directory, that's for the HunSpell engine, you can add languages there for yourself by downloading them from http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries and extracting them in the Dictionaries folder in your program directory. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannot open file E:\Batmail\t-shirt.txt http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello John, Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 7:34:59 AM, among other things, you wrote: JP I need English (Australian) if possible. Download the Hunspell English(Australian) dictionary and rename it as British English. I work this way with South African English. (You will first have to remove or rename any existing British English dictionary) You can download Hunspell dictionaries from: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: ...\The Bat!\Dictionaries -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18.5 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Roger (and others) On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, at 16:33:30 [GMT +0200] (01:33:30 26/03/2008 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: You can download Hunspell dictionaries from: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: Thanks guys for all the help! -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, at 10:09:59 [GMT +1100] (10:09:59 26/03/2008 Australian Eastern Time) I wrote: There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: Thanks guys for all the help! OK guys, another question - Bat is now checking the text of forwarded or replied to messages as well. How do I stop this? -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello all, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, John Phillips wrote: There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: Thanks guys for all the help! OK guys, another question - Bat is now checking the text of forwarded or replied to messages as well. How do I stop this? can not confirm, quoted text is not spelled here in 4.0.18.6. BTW please add Your OS version and computer configuration to signature, manytimes issues are OS or its version related. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.18.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Marek On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, at 03:51:40 [GMT +0100] (13:51:40 26/03/2008 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: can not confirm, quoted text is not spelled here in 4.0.18.6. BTW please add Your OS version and computer configuration to signature, manytimes issues are OS or its version related. My error, only forwarded text is attempted to be spell checked. Using XP Pro SP2, Bat 4.0.18, can add to siggy as controlled by company policy and mail server, but I ~did~ include this information in my initial email. -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker not working?
Hello all, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, John Phillips wrote: There are at least two files, a .dic and a .aff) that must be installed in (or copied to) this directory: Thanks guys for all the help! OK guys, another question - Bat is now checking the text of forwarded or replied to messages as well. How do I stop this? can not confirm, quoted text is not spelled here in 4.0.18.6. BTW please add Your OS version and computer configuration to signature, manytimes issues are OS or its version related. Could someone tell how I get the computer's configuration macros in my sig template. Many thanks -- Michael J. Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using the world's best e-mail client: The Bat! Pro v4.0.18.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with AntispamSniper Pro v2.7.1.7 - what a combination! www.TechniSmart.com Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker not working?
G'day CDISXM, - On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:13:47 PM, you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ct Could someone tell how I get the computer's configuration macros in Ct my sig template. You add the following text to the template file you use for sending messages to the list. Also, don't forget the sigdash (i.e. two dashes followed by a space as in -- (without the quotes)) otherwise fish comes your way. This should go on a line on its own above what you want to be your signature. Using The Bat! %TheBatVersion %WindowsPlatformName %WindowsMajorVersion.%WindowsMinorVersion Build %WindowsBuildNumber %WindowsCSDVersion Thank you Ian. Could you also tell me how I get that MS at the start of each line of my reply? Is there in fact a comprehensive list of these regular expressions? (if that's TB's name for it) Really appreciate the help. -- Michael J. Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using the world's best e-mail client: The Bat! Pro v4.0.18.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with AntispamSniper Pro v2.7.1.7 www.TechniSmart.com Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello CDISXM, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:23:28 AM, among other things, you wrote: Ct Could you also tell me how I get that MS at the start of each line Ct of my reply? Go to: Account/Properties/Templates/Reply and choose what you want to do. Ct Is there in fact a comprehensive list of these regular Ct expressions? (if that's TB's name for it) Yes, although the Help file is not up to date it does have quite a lot of information about Macros and Regex. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18.6 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker not working?
IAW G'day CDISXM, - On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 3:23:28 PM, you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ct G'day CDISXM, - On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:13:47 PM, you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ct Thank you Ian. Ct Could you also tell me how I get that MS at the start of each line Ct of my reply? Is there in fact a comprehensive list of these regular Ct expressions? (if that's TB's name for it) IAW These are covered by the Macros section in the help. The quoting of IAW the poster's initials (or what The Bat! works them out to be from the IAW From address is set in the Account|Properties Template|Reply Sender IAW information used for quoting. IAW By the way I see you do have two dashes for your signature, however IAW you are missing the space at the end of it, so The Bat! does not IAW consider that a sigdash. Hi Ian, Is my sig right now? Expat Aussie :-) in the French Caribbean -- Michael J. Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using the world's best e-mail client: The Bat! Pro v4.0.18.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with AntispamSniper Pro v2.7.1.7 on Fujitsu-Siemens, Centrino 1.4Ghz, 512MB, 60GB www.TechniSmart.com Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker not working?
Since upgrading (?) to 4.0.18, I notice the spell checker is not working, although automatic spelling is enabled in the compose window under Spell Checker I am using the MAC OSX skin. Windoze XP Pro SP2.. I compose in plain text (Micro ED) I would like faulty words to be underlined again, as previous! Also the dictionary has reverted to USA; I need English (Australian) if possible. What am I missing here, and apologies for long sig; company policy! -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hunspell spell checker
Batfolk, I notice on the beta list discussion about the Hunspell spell checker. I also notice that the this latest released version of TB installs a hunspell.dll file in my program directory. However, needless to say, there is nothing about it in the help files. Can anyone tell me what it means? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hunspell spell checker
Batfolk, I notice on the beta list discussion about the Hunspell spell checker. I also notice that the this latest released version of TB installs a hunspell.dll file in my program directory. However, needless to say, there is nothing about it in the help files. Can anyone tell me what it means? It's a spell checker. There have been some issues on the beta list about getting it to work. Someone with more knowledge of huspell may shoot you a more detailed answer. -- Rick Thank you Mr. Bush for showing us how badly we need change v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hunspell spell checker
Hello Robin, On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:42:22 +1100 GMT (17/02/2008, 07:42 +0700 GMT), Robin Anson wrote: RA I notice on the beta list discussion about the Hunspell spell RA checker. I also notice that the this latest released version of TB RA installs a hunspell.dll file in my program directory. RA However, needless to say, there is nothing about it in the help files. RA Can anyone tell me what it means? It means that the Help file has not been updated. scnr Seriously though, TB! can now use more than one dictionary per language, which is useful if you use specialised dictionaries, for example for technical terms. Hunspell another kind of dictionary, after TB! already supports CSAPI and SSCE. So, nothing to worry about. -- Cheers, Thomas. Manche Leute haben einen geistigen Horizont mit Radius 0 und nennen das dann ihren Standpunkt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 at 07:53:02 +0200, Roger wrote: If you are meaning meaning that it chooses -ize instead of -ise endings, these days these endings are often considered as optional even in British dictionaries. In fact some sources (such as the Oxford English Dictionary) prefer -ize. The following quote is from Ask Oxford.com (http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/ize?view=uk) Are spellings like 'privatize' and 'organize' Americanisms? No, not really. British spelling has always recognized the existence of variant spellings using the suffix -ize/-ise. When American spelling was standardized during the 19th century (mainly through the efforts of the great American lexicographer Noah Webster), the consistent use of -ize was one of the conventions that became established. However, since then, the -ise spellings have become more popular in Britain (and in other English-speaking countries such as Australia), perhaps partly as a reaction against the American custom. Spellings such as organisation would have struck many older British writers as rather French-looking. The Oxford English Dictionary favoured -ize, partly on the linguistic basis that the suffix derives from the Greek suffix -izo, and this was also the style of Encyclopaedia Britannica (even before it was American-owned) and formerly of the Times newspaper. The main advantage of the modern -ise habit? Lazy spellers do not have to remember that there are several important words which cannot properly be spelt with -ize. These include words which are not formed by the addition of the -ize prefix to a stem, but by some other root which happens to end in the same syllable, such as -vise (as in televise), -cise (as in incise), and -prise (as in comprise). The American system resulted in the creeping of z into some other words where it did not originally belong. Writers of American English should be aware of some spellings that are regarded as incorrect in the UK, notably analyze. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.98.4 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hi On Saturday 14 April 2007 at 12:46:34 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Berger wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thursday, April 12, 2007, 8:56:52 PM, you wrote: (I use the British spelling) I use British spelling but could not cope with TB's British dictionary as correct words kept being Americanised. -- Best regards, MFPA When duty calls...hang up immediately Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker
Hello MFPA, Monday, April 16, 2007, 2:35:34 AM, among other things, you wrote: M I use British spelling but could not cope with TB's British M dictionary as correct words kept being Americanised. I haven't found this to be a frequent problem, in fact I am not sure that Americanised is the correct term to use. In general it is good at distinguishing between British and American spelling. If you are meaning meaning that it chooses -ize instead of -ise endings, these days these endings are often considered as optional even in British dictionaries. Certainly it sometimes doesn't know some of the words that I use, but this is a problem common to all abridged versions of a dictionary, and because of the immense size of the English vocabulary most English dictionaries are of necessity abridged to some degree. *I* am quite happy to 'Add' my spelling version to the supplementary dictionary when I have a conflict with the TB dictionary. Any deficiencies will of course be more of a problem to non native English speakers who perhaps more likely to use an English dictionary to correct true spelling errors rather than mere typing errors. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.98.12 :beta: with AntispamSniper 2.0.0.4 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thursday, April 12, 2007, 8:56:52 PM, you wrote: msl Hello List, msl How do you activate the spell checker? I recall it should appear in msl the 'utilities' tab But, There seems to be no spell checker that I can msl find. msl thanks While you wait for more expert advice, when you edit/compose a message, the menu should show Spell Checker next to the right of Utilities. There you click on Automatic checking. If you are using non-US spelling, you need to download and install the international pack. (I use the British spelling) -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...For people who like peace and quiet: a phoneless cord. Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Friday, April 13, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you activate the spell checker? In the message editor, choose Spell Checker then Automatic checking. -- Urban On the night of April 14, 1865, Lincoln went to the theater and got shot in his seat by one of the actors in a moving picture show. The believed assinator was John Wilkes Booth, a supposedly insane actor. This ruined Booth's career. Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker
Hello List, How do you activate the spell checker? I recall it should appear in the 'utilities' tab But, There seems to be no spell checker that I can find. thanks -- regards vernon Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to correct Spell Checker base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Under the word instable I do not get the wavy red worm telling me I write it incorrectly. How could I fix it please? - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 527 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+zRVLSpHvHEUtv8AQOKdAf8DuRZzhCbQRlUNuL73wlv+CbyRyCMwMGP 2MTenWrTgwwtHvKDwioEhZKpvw6WnGb13MoJrFRf4nqhbfA1JfW/AzOr6LHuZa+5 pY3BheoIod3YVdiMcEaT05sls93RaJar8TzcPktW0Q7yb5vY4trJg5lkrBrpIvPN 9PSNX90Y6Pz7nWpUFGPfl9FBlYbGSZnQupnq7jDEx9NxrpWHy/pcVQYb/dDXEzK2 M2tqE6klCEiSxqWpLSJg99+tEWqValqICq5OC+Rwfy13mMStttBw4RIzHVfQDyic 4R82o6y7gp83FsWdEZXLohJRcC92tsfk0g35BSdK/jYG0inTw/rNjQ== =xODe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to correct Spell Checker base?
On Fri, 10 Feb. 2006 18:45:59 +0100 GMT(10/02/2006, 17:45 + GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM Under the word instable I do not get the wavy red worm MM telling me I write it incorrectly. How could I fix it MM please? The two volume 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' includes 'instable' as a word meaning 'not stable, characterized by instability, unstable' - but says it is 'now rare'. -- Eric Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Ericmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to correct Spell Checker base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 10 Feb 2006, @ @ at 18:49:08 +, when Eric wrote: MM Under the word instable I do not get the wavy red worm telling me MM I write it incorrectly. How could I fix it please? The two volume 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' includes 'instable' as a word meaning 'not stable, characterized by instability, unstable' - but says it is 'now rare'. Thanks, Eric. That confused me for a while. Knowing the root word (the Latin instabilis) I was convinced it's okay, at least as to British spelling. However, M-Webster also shows it as a regular spelling, but TB's British checker (and American CSAPI one) says it's incorrect. I think now is better not to touch anything, and pretend Englishman. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 527 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+ztubSpHvHEUtv8AQO3mQf+LY/wyC5MlQc/wk60dWKUCXpLYggadPn8 YHq6sBSU4VODXRR7kqRF7C2IbBjTQutjohGV17UJAYAmurBx12zwVtRIY6zjPeSX YS445xvmsvZvWBP4RCt7XXmnlD0YMW31RZIycE7p56B1wWKxiyjNI09uETiTD/7p o/+tMv96YxMWa1lwif9drxedfNGjQOo8FbyakkTkeVmZkqL3iP7fsUF0lvWNuJyA B2ix7IG84kcaTLFSP+mDhkoPd7bNOehHB0pVUCx0dwUWoO4qkP2cqCUW/HMSRi0n SWNyiV6a1zz7r4xReOYl+dE8X8yLHa5bWYmBj/Y8b1t2r/6I+A60bw== =fuc2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Spell checker?)
Hallo Phillip, On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:13:56 -0400GMT (20-4-2005, 3:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KVS what menu item is it under? I am not seeing it :( KVS On 4/15/05, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Phillip, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Phillip. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. The Bat! 3.0.9.17 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp1IAYdoocLr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Spell checker?)
Hallo Phillip, On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:13:56 -0400GMT (20-4-2005, 3:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Phillip. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof deja moo, the feeling that you've heard this bull before. The Bat! 3.0.9.17 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp0pwIOadVYq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker?
what menu item is it under? I am not seeing it :( On 4/15/05, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Phillip, On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:50:39 -0400GMT (15-4-2005, 23:50 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KVS I know I will feel like an idiot... but I cannot find the spell KVS checker /anywhere/ What am I missing? In the editor there's a 'Spell Checker' in the menu. KVS -- Your signature delimiter is missing its trailing space... -- Groetjes, Roelof Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell checker?
Hi Phillip, On Tuesday, April 19, 2005 at 9:13:56 PM you wrote: PPRI what menu item is it under? I am not seeing it :( Open up a new message or a reply. In that screen, you will see Spell Checker on the toolbar. -- Regards, Maggie Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.” Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker?
v3.02.10 I know I will feel like an idiot... but I cannot find the spell checker /anywhere/ What am I missing? Thanks -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker?
Hallo Phillip, On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:50:39 -0400GMT (15-4-2005, 23:50 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KVS I know I will feel like an idiot... but I cannot find the spell KVS checker /anywhere/ What am I missing? In the editor there's a 'Spell Checker' in the menu. KVS -- Your signature delimiter is missing its trailing space... -- Groetjes, Roelof Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpLaJjhDoVTF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-6 10:32:24 AM File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To change the location of user dictionaries: 1. What keys have to be changed? Changed from what to what? HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller\#\User Lexicons\... where # is probably a language ID, like 30840. 2. Would the registry changes work if I were using XP Home? Yes, they should. 3. Would there be any side effects to look out for? insert standard registry editing warning here -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. All people have moments of insanity; some people more often than others. pgpm4pblKWXi1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:22:08 -0500 (6:22 PM EST here) Chris wrote:
Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-1 10:30:19 AM File Location, Permission,
Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and
the custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.
For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
are stored, those options would still remain.
Is this procedure correct?
1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
controlled folder structure.
TheBat! + Account + Files directories
Home Directory {Browse]
etc.
Yes. Currently, those changes require modifying the registry.
However, I think that the custom dictionary should be stored in the
user's mail directory, not in The Bat!'s program directory. Each
user has his or hew own custom dictionary. I may want
antidifferentiation to be considered correct, while another user may
not.
(If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats applications
data?)
The default should be that the user's mail goes into
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\. Normally this would be
C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The
Bat!, but a network administrator could change it to
\\server.company.com\Roaming Data\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit
Labs\The Bat!.
I am my system's administrator. I've used Regedit before.
1. What keys have to be changed? Changed from what to what?
2. Would the registry changes work if I were using XP Home?
3. Would there be any side effects to look out for?
Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9,
MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80
Windows XP v5.1 - Build 2600 - Service Pack 2
--
Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA
homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/
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Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:57:11 -0500 (9:57 PM EST here) Chris wrote:
Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 10:53:46 PM File Locations
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does The Bat! insist on putting data files in its own directory?
In theory, normal users should not be able to modify the contents of
The Bat!'s directory. Therefore, The Bat! should store its data files
in the user's home directory (%userprofile%\Application Data\The Bat!
[There is a better way to get the path of the Application Data
directory {it can be redirected}, using the API SHGetFolderPath()
{this may be getting to technical}]).
Actually, only too technical for us hardware old time engineers and,
more practical non-cyber techies. |grin|
If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.
For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
are stored, those options would still remain.
Is this procedure correct?
1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
controlled folder structure.
TheBat! + Account + Files directories
Home Directory {Browse]
etc.
(If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats
applications data?)
2. BayesIt. The BayesIt files and data can be put in any user
controlled directory created for the purpose. Just tell TheBat!
where you put BayesIt, by install BayesIT in a user controlled
folder) via
TheBat! + Options + Preferences
Protection + Anti-spam
(If not how?)
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Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-1 10:30:19 AM
File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.
For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
are stored, those options would still remain.
Is this procedure correct?
1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
controlled folder structure.
TheBat! + Account + Files directories
Home Directory {Browse]
etc.
Yes. Currently, those changes require modifying the registry. However,
I think that the custom dictionary should be stored in the user's mail
directory, not in The Bat!'s program directory. Each user has his or
hew own custom dictionary. I may want antidifferentiation to be
considered correct, while another user may not.
(If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats applications
data?)
The default should be that the user's mail goes into CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit
Labs\The Bat!\. Normally this would be C:\Documents and
Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The Bat!, but a network
administrator could change it to \\server.company.com\Roaming
Data\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The Bat!.
2. BayesIt. The BayesIt files and data can be put in any user
controlled directory created for the purpose. Just tell TheBat!
where you put BayesIt, by install BayesIT in a user controlled
folder) via
TheBat! + Options + Preferences
Protection + Anti-spam
I think that the BayseIt program files should be installed once, for
all users. For example, in C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\Plugins\BayseIt. Each user would then have his or her own
BayseIt data files stored else where, for example
CSIDL_APPDATA\BayseIt. Then, each user would have a personally
trained BayseIt. For example, one user may consider Amazon.com
promotional e-mail messages junk, while another may not. Currently,
both users compete when it comes to BayseIt.
Generally, NO user data should be stored in The Bat!'s directory. Any
personal user data needs to be in personal folders, defaulting to the
aforementioned location. Any data shared between users, such as a
computer-wide custom dictionary (containing a company's product names,
for example) should be stored in the All Users directory.
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File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.
These recent threads of conversation remind me of something I said
about a year ago.
Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 10:53:46 PM
File Locations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does The Bat! insist on putting data files in its own directory?
In theory, normal users should not be able to modify the contents of
The Bat!'s directory. Therefore, The Bat! should store its data files
in the user's home directory (%userprofile%\Application Data\The Bat!
[There is a better way to get the path of the Application Data
directory {it can be redirected}, using the API SHGetFolderPath()
{this may be getting to technical}]).
If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.
For those of us who want to have control over where our data files are
stored, those options would still remain.
In a message one day later, I said:
Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 11:05:48 PM
File Locations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing the way The Bat! stores file would solve the problems
mentioned in the thread Setting up TB! for multiple users?
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Global address books and
other shared files could be stored in the All Users directory.
Network settings would need to be stored in The Bat!'s directory so
that they could only be changed by users with permissions (normally
only administrators).
Also, these changes will help users of Windows 2000 and Windows XP and
will NOT break The Bat! on older operating systems. There are user
profiles and an All Users directory on both Windows 98 and Me (and
perhaps even 95).
The All Users Application Data directory is CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Spell Checker Request
Hallo Bill, On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 23:19:07 -0600GMT (7-11-2004, 6:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM It is set for automatic checking. That doesn't stop BM the dialog OK box. I type fast enough that I often BM plan to go back but don't always make it before BM clicking on Send - that's why I have `Check before BM Send/Queue` set also. In that case the thing you can do is to add a formal wish to the wish list. Posting the wish here doesn't do you any good, except for getting people who agree with to add their support to your wish. You can insert wishes in the wish list, by logging in to: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php Choose 'The Bat! wishes' and add a new item. First check whether someone has made the same wish, then you can support that wish. Wishes that are supported by more users are more likely to be granted than wishes by one. And the system isn't smart enough to understand that wishes might be the same. And add just one wish per entry. Makes everything easier, both for other users who want to add support and for the developers. -- Groetjes, Roelof When you're a little rabbit, carry a big gun. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp2ONCLvvRyE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker Request
Hello TB User Discussion List, Two minor enhancements would make the spell checker more user friendly: (1) Add a `Mail anyway` dialog to `Cancel`. As it is, when one mails, say source code, with many spelling errors one has to either turn off spell checking or click on `Ignore all` many times. (2) Have an option, perhaps under `Check before Send/Queue` that disables the `OK` dialog at the end of spell checking. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Request
Hallo Bill, On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:53:50 -0600GMT (6-11-2004, 21:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM Two minor enhancements would make the spell checker BM more user friendly: Why not set the spell checker for automatic checking, it'll give you some coloured lines, but it won't bother you with dialogues. -- Groetjes, Roelof What youth deemed crystal, age finds was dew. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp9lDFH7d1x8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Request
On Sat 6-Nov-04 6:25pm -0400, Roelof Otten wrote: Why not set the spell checker for automatic checking, it'll give you some coloured lines, but it won't bother you with dialogues. It is set for automatic checking. That doesn't stop the dialog OK box. I type fast enough that I often plan to go back but don't always make it before clicking on Send - that's why I have `Check before Send/Queue` set also. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hi
On Sunday, 31 October, 2004, at 7:00:32 AM, Tony wrote:
M I get very odd suggestions for spellchecker, including
M Seychelles and belched. I am using British English,
I get those suggestions too but only under 'suggest more'
'suggest more' almost works like an anagram solver :)
I was getting them without using suggest more unless I selected
Suggest split words.
M yet I also
M get paycheck (which should be pay cheque).
According to my paper dictionary it should be paycheck.
Also according this on-line dictionary http://www.m-w.com/
Mirriam-Webster Online is an _American_ dictionary.
http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary defines paycheck as noun
{C} US FOR pay packet
For my level of English the spell checker comes close to perfection.
It's probably ok for somebody whose first language is not English.
The British English spellchecker was suggesting Americanisation
of so many correctly spelt English words that I had to install an
alternative dictionary file in order to use it.
I hope RitLabs is also considering grammar checking.
I've seen it in MS Word.
But not in Outlook Express. You could copy/paste from a word
processor into an email client.
It's far from perfect
Definitely.
but does detect a fair number of errors.
And also regularly suggests changing perfectly clear, correctly
constructed sentences into complete nonsense.
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Re: Spell checker
Hello MFPA, Sunday, October 31, 2004, 4:49:33 AM, you wrote: M Hi M On Friday, 29 October, 2004, at 7:59:12 PM, MAU wrote: Hello Allie, Maybe it was in a dream but I remember the spell checker suggesting to splitting up words. For example when I typed spellchecker it suggested spell checker Or mailserver mail server Was I dreaming or fully awake? No, you weren't dreaming since I got a number of those suggestions just today. It doesn't not work with CSAPI, only with normal TB dictionaries. However, for this to work, in Spell Checker/Options you must select Suggest split words. M I get very odd suggestions for spellchecker, including M Seychelles and belched. I am using British English, I get those suggestions too but only under 'suggest more' 'suggest more' almost works like an anagram solver :) M yet I also M get paycheck (which should be pay cheque). According to my paper dictionary it should be paycheck. Also according this on-line dictionary http://www.m-w.com/ For my level of English the spell checker comes close to perfection. I hope RitLabs is also considering grammar checking. I've seen it in MS Word. It's far from perfect but does detect a fair number of errors. -- Best regards, Tony Trucks of a local plumbing company in NE Pennsylvania: Don't sleep with a drip call your plumber. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hi On Friday, 29 October, 2004, at 7:59:12 PM, MAU wrote: Hello Allie, Maybe it was in a dream but I remember the spell checker suggesting to splitting up words. For example when I typed spellchecker it suggested spell checker Or mailserver mail server Was I dreaming or fully awake? No, you weren't dreaming since I got a number of those suggestions just today. It doesn't not work with CSAPI, only with normal TB dictionaries. However, for this to work, in Spell Checker/Options you must select Suggest split words. I get very odd suggestions for spellchecker, including Seychelles and belched. I am using British English, yet I also get paycheck (which should be pay cheque). -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell checker
Hallo vleermuisjes, Maybe it was in a dream but I remember the spell checker suggesting to splitting up words. For example when I typed spellchecker it suggested spell checker Or mailserver mail server Was I dreaming or fully awake? :D -- Best regards, Tony Sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 10:22 AM, Tony wrote: Maybe it was in a dream but I remember the spell checker suggesting to splitting up words. For example when I typed spellchecker it suggested spell checker Or mailserver mail server Was I dreaming or fully awake? No, you weren't dreaming since I got a number of those suggestions just today. -- -=[ Allie ]=- ... To err is human. To blame someone else is politics. __ Running TB! v3.0.2.2 Rush or SquirrelMail WebMail for IMAP IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker
Hello Allie, Maybe it was in a dream but I remember the spell checker suggesting to splitting up words. For example when I typed spellchecker it suggested spell checker Or mailserver mail server Was I dreaming or fully awake? No, you weren't dreaming since I got a number of those suggestions just today. It doesn't not work with CSAPI, only with normal TB dictionaries. However, for this to work, in Spell Checker/Options you must select Suggest split words. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.3 Rush Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CSAPI spell checker
Good morning, The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello all, Monday, September 6, 2004, Cyrille wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.0 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Marek, Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. I have a solution or workaround working, but I can't expand now. Maybe tonight. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hi Cyrille, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, at 10:36:14 [GMT+0200] (which was 18:36:14 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. If that is the case, the help (?) file is way out of date. IIRC, this feature hasn't worked now for a few years? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Sign on baby's bib: SPIT HAPPENS. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Cyrille, On Monday, September 6, 2004 you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? You have to install files from Office 2000 with appropriate registry entries. HTH, no time to give more info now. -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ Using The Bat! 3.0.0 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Marek, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:57:40 AM, you wrote: Monday, September 6, 2004, Cyrille wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. This is what is said on Microsoft's website: [Start quote...] CSAPI may not be used to call into Microsoft's spell check engine and lexicon. For example, third-party developers who want to incorporate spell check capabilities into their own applications may not use CSAPI to access the spell check engine and lexicons that are installed by Microsoft Office. Microsoft does not currently provide spell check utilities for use in third-party products. [...End quote] Here's the URL for those who want to read the whole text: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262605 The above text is related to MS Office 2000/2002(XP). So, basically TB! is already violating the above quote. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Krzysztof, Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:16:34 PM, you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). You have to install files from Office 2000 with appropriate registry entries. HTH, no time to give more info now. Isn't it possible to edit the registry entries manually? Who knows more? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Cyrille, Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? I used the CSAPI Spanish and UK English spell checkers with Office 97 for some time without any problem. When I upgraded to Office 2000 I could not use them on my desktop but didn't have a problem on my laptop. Finally, when I upgraded to Office XP (which I use now) they wouldn't work either on desktop or laptop. I don't recall exactly where I got the solution from, probably from this list a long time ago. The thing is that I have a Proof.zip file that contains the following: mssp2_es.lex (Spanish dic.) mssp2_en.lex (UK English) Mssp232.dll (CSAPI engine?) spelling.reg (Registry keys for everything to work) The dictionaries and the engine I think are from my Office 97 but, in any case, better than the ones included with TB. The registry key settings (or the idea or explanation on how to set them) if what I got somewhere else. Maybe from this list, as I have said, but not sure. What is sure is the I did not invent' them. Just a few weeks ago I got a new computer and installed everything from scratch, including Office XP (i.e. I did not upgrade from 97 to 200 and then to XP). Then I placed 'my' dictionaries and engine in the directories called for in the registry settings in 'spelling.reg' and finally imported 'spelling.reg into the Registry and I have full access to both CSAPI dictionaries from TB. I have not tried (yet) to use the equivalent dictionaries from Office 2000 or XP, but I assume they will not work. But who knows. Anyway, if any wants to try (at your own risk, of course) this is the content of my 'spelling.reg' (watch out for possible wrapping of long lines either at my or your end): Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034\Normal] Engine=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL Dictionary=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp2_es.lex [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034\Normal\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057\Normal] Engine=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp232.dll Dictionary=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp2_en.lex [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057\Normal\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\Vendor] Inso=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\Vendor\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\Office10\\WINWORD.EXE= -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
MAU- Monday, September 6, 2004, 10:45:19 AM, you wrote: Wow. Thanks. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker - three usage questions / difficulties
Dear list, Mile mentioned having MeTB American-style -ize endings on MeTB words instead of the British -ise ending. Personally, I regard the -ize form as British. It's certainly the suffix preferred by the Oxford English Dictionary and the OUP. -- Eric Using TB! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
spell checker - three usage questions / difficulties
Hi I cannot work out a couple of things about using the spell checker. Firstly, how do you abort the spell-check but still send the message. If I press cancel, the spell-checking is cancelled but so is sending the message. The only way round this I've found so far is menu Spell checker uncheck the option to check before send/queue and then press send again. Surely I have missed something? Secondly, pressing add when the spell-checker fails to recognise a word has no effect. The word continues to be picked up as a possible mistake. How do I make this work? Thirdly, I have British English selected as my language but spell-checker seems to suggest a mix of UK and US spellings. For example, British colour not American color. American-style -ize endings on words instead of the British -ise ending. Co-operative with the hyphen(UK-style) or without (US). Is this a feature of the dictionary used and If so can I import a better third-party version? Or is it likely to be something wrong with my setup? My spell-checker options are Automatic checking Check before send Language 2. British English Options case sensitive typographical suggestions auto-correct moderately fast and accurate TIA for any help -- Best regards, Mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo subscriber2list (whatever your name is?), Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes up. Am I right? Looks like this should work. Have you try it yet? Perhaps, use a reduced subset of your currently defined .dic file. I haven't tried it yet, because nobody has been able to tell me what the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic means, and whether UserDic can contain words from different languages, or if I should create one UserDic for each language. I would like to know that first, before I start experimenting. -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo Roelof, What if you install the intpack again? (Just in case something went bad with the original install.) Thank you so much, Roelof - I did that and now it works! -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Friday, July 9, 2004, 3:05:03 AM, Britt wrote: BH I haven't tried it yet, because nobody has been able to tell me what BH the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic means, Ignore. Entries will have one word per line followed by a lowercase i. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo Roelof, BH So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed BH it? How do you try to call it? Via the menu or via the %language=am macro in a template? Menu: Spell Checker - Language - American English. Macro I hardly even know what it is, I haven't gotten that far yet. -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo Britt, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:29:53 +0200GMT (7-7-2004, 11:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: How do you try to call it? Via the menu or via the %language=am macro in a template? BH Menu: Spell Checker - Language - American English. Macro I hardly BH even know what it is, I haven't gotten that far yet. You can select the language? How do you see that it doesn't work? Won't it be/stay selected or don't you agree with the solutions? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hi Roelof, You can select the language? Yes. How do you see that it doesn't work? Won't it be/stay selected or don't you agree with the solutions? If AmE is chosen, every single word in the mail is underlined with red. As soon as I choose BrE instead, the lines disappear. Very strange indeed. BTW, what about these two questions? Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes up. Am I right? TB would have no means to distinguish between languages. But TB UserDic now contains words from different languages. Hence my question if I should use one dictionary for each language to add new words to. If I add them all to UserDic, how does TB then distinguish between those languages? -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hello Britt and Roelof, I find this interesting. Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 12:03:43 PM, you wrote: BH Hi Roelof, You can select the language? BH Yes. I see where one can select either American English, American English (CSAPI) or British English dictionary. Could I create ... say, a German dictionary (with file type of .tlx, .dic or .txt) and add the file to the list of dictionaries? And if so, is there an option somewhere I could than add German option to the Spell Checker's list of available languages? It looks like the import option only imports file type of .txt. Hhhhmm, looks like I'm asking some of your prior questions in different verbiage, but the possibilities here are interesting. How do you see that it doesn't work? Won't it be/stay the selected or don't you agree with the solutions? BH If AmE is chosen, every single word in the mail is underlined with BH red. As soon as I choose BrE instead, the lines disappear. Very BH strange indeed. BH BTW, what about these two questions? Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes up. Am I right? Looks like this should work. Have you try it yet? Perhaps, use a reduced subset of your currently defined .dic file. TB would have no means to distinguish between languages. But TB UserDic now contains words from different languages. Hence my question if I should use one dictionary for each language to add new words to. If I add them all to UserDic, how does TB then distinguish between those languages? Yup, I would like to know too :grin: -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo Britt, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:03:43 +0200GMT (7-7-2004, 18:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BH If AmE is chosen, every single word in the mail is underlined with BH red. As soon as I choose BrE instead, the lines disappear. Very BH strange indeed. What if you install the intpack again? (Just in case something went bad with the original install.) BH BTW, what about these two questions? I don't have any sensible answers to your other questions. That's why I left them unanswered previously. (I'm not in the habit of answering list messages with 'dunno', bad for my image g and a terrible waste of bandwidth.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo subscriber2list, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:27:10 -0400GMT (7-7-2004, 18:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S Could I create ... say, a German dictionary (with file type of .tlx, S .dic or .txt) and add the file to the list of dictionaries? And if S so, is there an option somewhere I could than add German option to S the Spell Checker's list of available languages? You don't need to do that. There's an international pack freely available from the ritlabs site that installs several language dictionaries and interfaces in several languages: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dictionaries and Spell Checker
I write mails in several languages and have activated my own dictionaries (.dic files), but I haven't really grasped how it works: TB seems to be able to spell check also those languages with its own UserDic. So which dictionary should I add new words to - different depending on language, or all to UserDic and remove my own dics? When I add words to UserDic the red underlining disappears, when I add them to my own dics it stays. Why is UserDic divided in so many .tlx files?? Each one contains only a few hundred words, and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added to it. Would it be better to make them all into one big file? What does the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic.TLX mean? What do the .clx files contain and can they be opened and edited? And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE?? -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Hallo Britt, On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:53:16 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BH I write mails in several languages and have activated my own BH dictionaries (.dic files), but I haven't really grasped how it works: BH TB seems to be able to spell check also those languages with its own BH UserDic. TB has its own library set, you don't need to create another one. Every language you installed has two files, an ssceXX.tlx and an ssceXX2.clx file, where XX stands for the language 'am' for American English, 'du' for Dutch (that's an important one for me), 'go' for German old spelling, etc BH So which dictionary should I add new words to - different BH depending on language, or all to UserDic and remove my own dics? To userdic, you don't need to insert them manually, but via the spell checker interface. BH When I add words to UserDic the red underlining disappears, when I BH add them to my own dics it stays. Reason enough to add them to userdic, I'd say. ;-) BH Why is UserDic divided in so many .tlx files?? There's a tlx for every language BH Each one contains only a few hundred words, Could be, I've never counted them. BH and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added BH to it. That's its function. BH Would it be better to make them all into one big file? No, TB would have no means to distinguish between languages. BH What does the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic.TLX mean? Dunno. BH What do the .clx files contain Spell checker info g BH and can they be opened and edited? No. BH And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE?? Because you haven't installed American English? does your 'speller' directory contain the files ssceam.tlx and ssceam2.clx? BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!
Hi Roelof, thank you so much for your great help! TB has its own library set, you don't need to create another one. OK. Every language you installed has two files, an ssceXX.tlx and an ssceXX2.clx file, where XX stands for the language 'am' for American English, 'du' for Dutch (that's an important one for me), 'go' for German old spelling, etc Aha, very useful information! BH So which dictionary should I add new words to To userdic, OK. you don't need to insert them manually, but via the spell checker interface. Yes, yes, I know that... :-D BH and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added BH to it. That's its function. Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes up. Am I right? BH Would it be better to make them all into one big file? No, TB would have no means to distinguish between languages. But TB UserDic now contains words from different languages. Hence my question if I should use one dictionary for each language to add new words to. If I add them all to UserDic, how does TB then distinguish between those languages? BH And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE?? Because you haven't installed American English? Of course I've installed it, that's why I wonder. does your 'speller' directory contain the files ssceam.tlx and ssceam2.clx? Yes, it does. BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack? Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages. So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it? -- Best regards, Britt Henrikson Using TB! 2.10.03 on Win2000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!
Hallo Britt, On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:09:30 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 23:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack? BH Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages. BH So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it? How do you try to call it? Via the menu or via the %language=am macro in a template? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hallo Charles, On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:18:37 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 2:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Australian English, Catalan, Czech, French Canadian, Norwegian (Nynorsk) C Dutch, Polish, Russian, Hungarian RO Try to find an older international pack. Somehow Dutch didn't get RO included in the latest, but it was available in older versions. This RO statement might be valid for other languages too. CMG Can you sent it to me, the Dutch spelling checker? Alvast bedankt. Not necessary anymore. My message was dated when I sent it. ;-) Per the eighth of June the Dutch spelling checker is included again in the international pack at the ritlabs site: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi I had just installed TB on this pc (a new one) with the latest downloads on the fourth of June, so I thought it was a safe assumption that I was up to date for a week or two. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 11:47:54 AM, you wrote: CMG Can you sent it to me, the Dutch spelling checker? Alvast bedankt. RO Not necessary anymore. My message was dated when I sent it. ;-) Per RO the eighth of June the Dutch spelling checker is included again in the RO international pack at the ritlabs site: RO http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi Got it, thanks. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hello, What about my other two questions in this thread? Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:15:26 PM, I started this thread. Until now I got a reaction (not an answer) to question no. 3, but nothing about the first two ones (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Thank you in advance for your help! -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
On Saturday, June 12, 2004, 4:41 PM, you wrote: C Hello, C What about my other two questions in this thread? C Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:15:26 PM, I started this thread. Until now C I got a reaction (not an answer) to question no. 3, but nothing about C the first two ones (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) I just tried to add a file to my dictionary, and it locked up TB and I had to restart it. the file was the codus.dic from Corel's WordPerfect program. I have Word 2003 installed also, but I did a search for *.dic and it didn't show one from any WORD folder. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0424-3 (11.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hallo Cyrille, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:15:26 +0200GMT (10-6-2004, 23:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Australian English, Catalan, Czech, French Canadian, Norwegian (Nynorsk) C Dutch, Polish, Russian, Hungarian Try to find an older international pack. Somehow Dutch didn't get included in the latest, but it was available in older versions. This statement might be valid for other languages too. I didn't realize that until now, since I installed TB only recently on this pc and hardly sent any messages in my native language. I guess I'll have to grab an old intpack from one of my other pc's. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 12:06:28 AM, you wrote: C Australian English, Catalan, Czech, French Canadian, Norwegian (Nynorsk) C Dutch, Polish, Russian, Hungarian RO Try to find an older international pack. Somehow Dutch didn't get RO included in the latest, but it was available in older versions. This RO statement might be valid for other languages too. Can you sent it to me, the Dutch spelling checker? Alvast bedankt. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
