Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-24 Thread Michael Disabato
Friday, May 24, 2002, 10:51:17 AM, tracer scribbled: >> Crossposting is out of the question. I will not have my email address >> posted on USENET ever again. t> The last isnt a problem as long as it is a throw away email address... That's real convenient when you have certificates and PGP keys

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-24 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello tracer! On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 5:51:17 PM you wrote: > The last isnt a problem as long as it is a throw away email address... I am now on the list for slightly more than 2 years. With a throw away address (I do use such sometimes) I'd have to re-subscribe very often ... -- Dierk Ha

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-24 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Friday, May 24, 2002, tracer wrote... > Michael Disabato wrote: >> Crossposting is out of the question. I will not have my email address >> posted on USENET ever again. > The last isnt a problem as long as it is a throw away email address... Or the server is a private server, and users requ

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-24 Thread tracer
Hello Michael Disabato, On Thu, 23 May 2002 16:26:01 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, May 24, 2002, 4:26:01 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Michael Disabato wrote: > Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:11:05 AM, Thomas scribbled: TF>> Newsgroups and Mailing Lists have different climates. I

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-23 Thread Michael Disabato
Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:11:05 AM, Thomas scribbled: TF> Newsgroups and Mailing Lists have different climates. I don't think TF> crossposting is a good idea. Crossposting is out of the question. I will not have my email address posted on USENET ever again. Thank you. Mike smime.p7s Descri

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-23 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 11:39:15 AM, Tim Fountain wrote: > Personally I find newsgroups much easier to browse than mailing > lists, and weren't there plans to make TB into a news client as well > in version 2...? When TB! is a news client, then maybe it would make sense. Maybe when we start

Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-23 Thread Britt Malka
Dear Marcus, Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 9:20:57 AM you wrote: MO> Visit the archive and search for a thread named "Newsgroups with The MO> Bat! and MailTraq". Great! Thanks :-) -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Do

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-23 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 22:19, Britt Malka wrote: RO>> I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with RO>> TB. > How complicated? I would like to explain :-) <- How do you make a > smiley with waving eyelashes? Visit the archive and search for a thread named "Newsgroups

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
On Wed, 22 May 2002 at 22:16 GMT +0200 (23/05/2002 3:16 where you think I live) "Roelof Otten"=[RO] wrote to Miguel A. Urech : >>> You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... MAU>> I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) > So do I. That's the point. So we agree the point is we prefer to rea

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jonathan! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 4:04:11 PM you wrote: > As my original idea said... it'd not replace the mail list... in fact > it'll just be the mail list, but passed onto a news server. Any posts > that hit the lists, get dropped into the news server, and any news > posting

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Clive, > (If only there were kill-file/ignore options a la VA). Yes, I miss VA's Ignore option :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.du

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hello Miguel, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:52:29 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:52 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: >> You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... MAU> I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) So do I. That's the point. I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with TB.

Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Britt Malka
Dear Roelof, Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 10:16:19 PM you wrote: RO> I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with RO> TB. How complicated? I would like to explain :-) <- How do you make a smiley with waving eyelashes? -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ |

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Roelof, > You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.duta

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Fountain
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: > This is not a poll of course but, for the record, I don't think a > newsgroup would offer any serious advantage over the mailing list > format; unless one considers the bandwidth, as already pointed out. Personally I find newsgr

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote... > Ähem, sorry to interrupt, but ... where would be the advantage? It > sounds a bit like adding two things together so there respective > disadvantages would sum up.* The advantage would be for the end reader. They can then choose if they wa

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote... > Meaning that newsgroups, unless they're private, are usually not > moderated. This allows a lot of flaming, arguing, off-topic > discussions and circular discussions completing way too many circles > before ending. Well, as is

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello, This is not a poll of course but, for the record, I don't think a newsgroup would offer any serious advantage over the mailing list format; unless one considers the bandwidth, as already pointed out. That said, I'd still read a newsgroup ab

Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Joseph N.
Well, I'm surprised at the extent of opposition to a newsgroup. Dierk's idea of just starting one and seeing what happens is a good one, but my project cup runneth over at the moment. Perhaps another day. FWIW, I will say that there are plenty of very helpful and focused NG's out there, but I re

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote: ... JA> How would setting a list to post to newsgroup, and mailing list JA> cause problems? And what did you mean about different climates? Meaning that newsgroups, unless they're private, are usually not moderated. This

Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Clive Taylor
22 May 2002, 08:46, you wrote: DE> Humm. I spot on oxymoron here (I think). A news group for an email client. DE> I have used news groups but I find them harder to use that a list. I for one DE> would not participate. No oxymoron. If you want to see a good example of a well-run email group in a

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Thomas, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:11:05 +0700, you wrote: > Hello Jonathan, > > On Tue, 21 May 2002 22:07:03 -0500 GMT (22/05/02, 10:07 +0700 GMT), > Jonathan Angliss wrote: > > JA> There is always a third option. Some mailing list managers (mailman for > JA> example) allow auto-posting to new

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Joseph! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 3:17:28 AM you wrote: > The email load has become too great. Even with threading, the time to > download messages or even headers and then to weed through them has, > in my opinion, slipped over the line of cost:benefit. It sounds to good to be true,

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread David Elliott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail Joseph On 22 May 2002 at 20:17:28 -0500 (which was 02:17 where I live) Joseph N. wrote and made these points > Isn't it time we created a newsgroup Humm. I spot on oxymoron here (I think). A news group for an email client. I have used news gr

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hello Joseph, On Tue, 21 May 2002 20:17:28 -0500GMT (22-5-02, 3:17 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JN> Isn't it time we created a newsgroup where messages could be posted JN> and read, even retained for a period of time? You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client and that lots of the rea

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
On Wed, 22 May 2002 03:18:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to "Paul Wilson on TBUDL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [ ... ] > Newsgroups? Personally, I don't read them! Life is too short. If the > user base really wants a NewsGroup and to disband this list I will > resign as moderato

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 21 May 2002 22:07:03 -0500 GMT (22/05/02, 10:07 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA> There is always a third option. Some mailing list managers (mailman for JA> example) allow auto-posting to news groups/servers. If a newsgroup was to be JA> established, then a sort

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Nick Andriash wrote to TBUDL: > You've misread my statement... I never said Hamster couldn't connect with > multiple News Servers. I said it belongs 'with' News Clients that cannot > connect to multiple News Servers, or in other words used with Clients such > as Agent. I did

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Michael L. Cusac, On Tuesday, May 21 2002 at 09:54 PM PDT, you wrote: > > Hamster is an abomination and belongs with News Clients that are > >incapable of connecting to more than one Server... > Hamster can connect to as many mail and news servers as you like, all > at the same time, and

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Tue, 21 May 2002, Nick Andriash wrote to TBUDL: > Hamster is an abomination and belongs with News Clients that are incapable > of connecting to more than one Server... Hamster can connect to as many mail and news servers as you like, all at the same time, and it's not fairly characterized as

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Tone Marie Berg, On Tuesday, May 21 2002 at 08:21 PM PDT, you wrote: > [1] As a general rule, I find mailing lists to be nothing but a > nuisance, so I convert them to newsgroups using Hamster Hamster is an abomination and belongs with News Clients that are incapable of connecting to

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Paul Wilson
Tuesday, 5/21/02, 9:02 PM Hi Nick, On Tue, 21 May 2002, at 21:15:31 [GMT -0700] (which was 9:15 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Time for a TB! newsgroup?' N> Let's end this crazy debate about a TB Newsgroup. Right on Nick. By the way, Thank You, using your instructions

Re[3]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Rick Reumann
On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 11:54:45 PM, Carren Stuart wrote: CS> Eeek! Don't do that Marck - we would be lost without you :-) CS> As far as I am concerned, anyone wanting to create a TB! newsgroup is CS> welcome to do so, but no way should this list be disbanded as a CS> result. JMHO! D

Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Carren Stuart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 22 May 2002 at 2:18 p.m. Marck wrote: MDP> Newsgroups? Personally, I don't read them! Life is too short. If MDP> the user base really wants a NewsGroup and to disband this list I MDP> will resign as moderator. Period. Eeek! Don't do t

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Tone Marie Berg
On 2002–05–22, "Joseph N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [TB! newsgroup, obviously] > Any interest in this? Isn't it time? I'm already reading this and a bunch of other mailing lists as newsgroups[1], so to me personally it won't make much of a difference. If I had the choice between pulling from

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread joeo
Hi Joseph, I am interested in a TB Newsgroup! Best regards, Joe O mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:17:28 PM, you wrote: > The email load has become too great. Even with threading, the time to > download messages or even headers and then to weed th

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Marck, On Wed, 22 May 2002 03:18:53 +0100, you wrote: > > If that happens I will get along without the lists. If you think the > > moderators are busy now, just wait until they are having to weed out > > the spam and porn. Yes I know you are going to suggest a subscription > > only newsgroup,

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @22 May 2002, 18:14:06 -0700 (02:14 UK time) Paul Wilson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] J>> Any interest in this? Isn't it time? > If that happens I will get along without the lists. If you think the > moderators are bu

Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Paul Wilson
Tuesday, 5/21/02, 6:08 PM Hi Joseph, On Tue, 21 May 2002, at 20:17:28 [GMT -0500] (which was 6:17 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Time for a TB! newsgroup?' J> Isn't it time we created a newsgroup where messages could be posted J> and read, even retained for a period o

Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Joseph N.
The email load has become too great. Even with threading, the time to download messages or even headers and then to weed through them has, in my opinion, slipped over the line of cost:benefit. Isn't it time we created a newsgroup where messages could be posted and read, even retained for a perio