Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
This message: 20/04/2000 10:20 GMT. On 20 April 2000 at 19:52:01 GMT -0500 (which was 01:52 where I live) David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed: DS Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The DS documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page DS necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? I'm pretty certain they are not needed. I had PGP 6.5i running with OE for a long while before I installed TB! As soon as I installed TB it automatically started to use PGP. All I had to do was tell it what version in the Tools menu. I didn't have to download any extra's other that what was included in the main PGP installation file. -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/18 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
Hi there! On 19 Apr 00, at 19:52, David Smith wrote about "General/Wish/RAR Help": Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? When I did a _clear_ install of TB 1.41, I found out that the PGP dlls weren't included in the distribution file. I had to put the dlls into TB directory manually. This might be an oversight of developers;-) I'm currently running PGP freeware 6.5.3. If so, is there some way to get them in some format other than RAR? Why don't you like RAR?;-) After some difficulties, ;-))) www.rarsoft.com or _any_ search engine;-) I managed to get the decompression utility (also tried using the full version), however every single RAR file that I try it on shows up as being corrupted in some way, either a CRC error or broken file header or something. This looks like the RIT labs server-side problem. Here's what the RAR developer has to say about this: quote Q: When I download a RAR archive using Netscape Navigator or Communicator, the file is corrupt, what's wrong? A: Apache HTTP server erroneously reports the RAR archive type as text/plain and as a result, Netscape Navigator/Communicator treats the file as plain text. To prevent this happening, those webmasters, who use Apache, should create .htaccess file in each directory which has RAR archives and add the following string to it: AddType application/x-rar-compressed rar If .htaccess already exists, this string should be added to the already existing file. /quote Looks like _exactly_ this problem... I've got into the troubles of this kind once, too. The chmod+.htaccess method worked just fine for me;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Build a system that only a fool can use and only a fool will use it. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
DS An option so that, when editing a message, when you click in an DS area to the right of anything that's been entered already, the DS cursor is not simply placed in never-never land, but placed at the DS end of that particular line (also known as: disallow cursor DS placement beyond end of line). LG I think at first, most people who aren't used to this type of editing LG (If you've used Borland C++ IDE, then this is old hat), find it LG disconcerting. However, once you get used to it, you'll see it has LG much more flexibility... Even if you end up believing that it might add flexibility, you may also end up with the feeling that the not-often-used flexibility isn't worth the constant irritation of the editor doing something you don't want it to do. That one (or several) people like something doesn't indicate that all people will "when they get used to it." -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
Thursday, April 20, 2000, 9:48:39 AM, Tom wrote: Even if you end up believing that it might add flexibility, you may also end up with the feeling that the not-often-used flexibility isn't worth the constant irritation of the editor doing something you don't want it to do. That one (or several) people like something doesn't indicate that all people will "when they get used to it." Which is why, once again, I point out that an internal editor is not the way to go and providing an external editor hook and leaving editor choice to the user is the best route. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: General/Wish/RAR Help
Thursday, April 20, 2000, 8:50:51 AM, Alexander wrote: Hi there! On 19 Apr 00, at 19:52, David Smith wrote about "General/Wish/RAR Help": Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? When I did a _clear_ install of TB 1.41, I found out that the PGP dlls weren't included in the distribution file. I had to put the dlls into TB directory manually. This might be an oversight of developers;-) Most likely. I'm currently running PGP freeware 6.5.3. If so, is there some way to get them in some format other than RAR? Why don't you like RAR?;-) After some difficulties, ;-))) www.rarsoft.com or _any_ search engine;-) It's not that I don't like RAR, it's that I couldn't get it to work. While I could find the web site for it, trying to download the free decompression utility always failed (later attempts giving me an error message of 'user Anonymous not a valid user'). That, combined with the corruption problems.. well, you get the picture. I managed to get the decompression utility (also tried using the full version), however every single RAR file that I try it on shows up as being corrupted in some way, either a CRC error or broken file header or something. This looks like the RIT labs server-side problem. Here's what the RAR developer has to say about this: quote Q: When I download a RAR archive using Netscape Navigator or Communicator, the file is corrupt, what's wrong? A: Apache HTTP server erroneously reports the RAR archive type as text/plain and as a result, Netscape Navigator/Communicator treats the file as plain text. To prevent this happening, those webmasters, who use Apache, should create .htaccess file in each directory which has RAR archives and add the following string to it: AddType application/x-rar-compressed rar If .htaccess already exists, this string should be added to the already existing file. /quote Looks like _exactly_ this problem... I've got into the troubles of this kind once, too. The chmod+.htaccess method worked just fine for me;-) Yep. However, I started with the assumption that - A) the downloads available on the web page from RITlabs were supposed to be useable. Having a setup that corrupts the data if you use the 'wrong' browser is definitely not expected, nor does it inspire confidence. B) the program downloaded to decompress the archive performed according to spec. That a presumably valid download showed up as being corrupted meant that I needed another source for the data. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
General/Wish/RAR Help
Hello - I'm a new user of The Bat!, having only come across it a couple days ago while doing my annual check on email clients. Actually, that's not completely true; I remember trying it out a couple years ago, and quickly dismissing it. However, I must congratulate the present programming team, as they have managed to come up with something that equals or surpasses my current email client (an obscure one called AK-Mail). The main impetus for my making a changeover is the definite strong presence of constant development. AK-Mail's main weakness is that it's the project of a single developer, and has had only a couple of updates in the last two years. But in any case, TB! is still a far cry better than just about any other standard option out there right now. I realize that there have been innumerable requests made for features for version 2 (or even modifications in the current development cycle), but as they're not listed anywhere, I'd like to make a few of my own. First, a list of the various wish-list requests that have been made. It would be nice to have an idea of what sort of direction the client will be going in the future. Maybe post it on the beta page. Next, customizable key-bindings. Primarily, I would like the quick-search function to be something that can be brought up with some sort of Ctrl-key function, and then allow any standard, unmodified keystrokes to be used for real functions (the one that already bugs me is the awkward Ctrl-M for marking messages as read). A current program that I know of that allows complete customization is UltraEdit, if such an example is of any use. When exporting messages, allow saving files on the Desktop, instead of being forced to use a normal directory. An option so that, when editing a message, when you click in an area to the right of anything that's been entered already, the cursor is not simply placed in never-never land, but placed at the end of that particular line (also known as: disallow cursor placement beyond end of line). Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? I'm currently running PGP freeware 6.5.3. If so, is there some way to get them in some format other than RAR? After some difficulties, I managed to get the decompression utility (also tried using the full version), however every single RAR file that I try it on shows up as being corrupted in some way, either a CRC error or broken file header or something. The decompression utility is version 2.60, listed as the latest version from the company that makes RAR. I'm running Win2k Pro, and I've also tried it on a system running WinNT 4.0 SP6, and on a system running Win98. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
On Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 19:52:01 GMT -0500 (which was 8:52 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello David, Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? I'm currently running PGP freeware 6.5.3. If so, is there some way to get them in some format other than RAR? After some difficulties, I managed to get the decompression utility (also tried using the full version), however every single RAR file that I try it on shows up as being corrupted in some way, either a CRC error or broken file header or something. The decompression utility is version 2.60, listed as the latest version from the company that makes RAR. I'm running Win2k Pro, and I've also tried it on a system running WinNT 4.0 SP6, and on a system running Win98. I opened it with Winzip on NT4 with no problems. Chuck Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The BAT! ver. 1.42 Beta/18 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Who is error and why is he reading my drive C? -- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0x9D6579A5 (DH/DSS) Fingerprints: 21CC B51A 7900 6398 7D66 EC7E 15D5 8E1D 9D65 79A5 -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: General/Wish/RAR Help
Hello, Wednesday, April 19, 2000, 8:04:42 PM, Chuck wrote: I opened it with Winzip on NT4 with no problems. Chuck Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] blink Okayy goes back and tries something else... Amazing. It works fine when I downloaded it using IE instead of Netscape. Checking a diff of the two downloads shows pretty significant differences. Thanks for the clue :) -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:52:01 -0500, David Smith wrote: ..trim.. I realize that there have been innumerable requests made for features for version 2 (or even modifications in the current development cycle), but as they're not listed anywhere, I'd like to make a few of my own. First, a list of the various wish-list requests that have been made. It would be nice to have an idea of what sort of direction the client will be going in the future. Maybe post it on the beta page. Take a look at this webpage: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Next, customizable key-bindings. That's slated for version two. Primarily, I would like the quick-search function to be something that can be brought up with some sort of Ctrl-key function, and then allow any standard, unmodified keystrokes to be used for real functions (the one that already bugs me is the awkward Ctrl-M for marking messages as read). A current program that I know of that allows complete customization is UltraEdit, if such an example is of any use. The fact that the quick search utility takes away so many potential simpler keybings is a pet peeve of mine and has been brought up on prior occasions. We're assured that the key bindings will be fully customisable in version 2. An option so that, when editing a message, when you click in an area to the right of anything that's been entered already, the cursor is not simply placed in never-never land, but placed at the end of that particular line (also known as: disallow cursor placement beyond end of line). This is courtesy of the free caret interface that TB! has. I prefer this personally but I think, though I'm not sure, version 2 will have editor enhancements that should add this flexibility, including using an external editor. :-) Finally, I have a question regarding RAR and the PGP dll's. The documentation is unclear; are the dll's from the download page necessary in order to use an external PGP program with TB? I'm currently running PGP freeware 6.5.3. If so, is there some way to get them in some format other than RAR? After some difficulties, I managed to get the decompression utility (also tried using the full version), however every single RAR file that I try it on shows up as being corrupted in some way, either a CRC error or broken file header or something. The decompression utility is version 2.60, listed as the latest version from the company that makes RAR. I'm running Win2k Pro, and I've also tried it on a system running WinNT 4.0 SP6, and on a system running Win98. Is that WinRAR to which you're referring? I have it installed in Win2k and it works just fine. :-) -- © 2000 Allie Martin Using TB! v1.42 Beta/18 on Win2k Pro --- ** Experience: a name everyone gives to his mistakes. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: General/Wish/RAR Help
Hello David, On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 at 19:52:01 [GMT -0500], you wrote: DS First, a list of the various wish-list requests that have been DS made. It would be nice to have an idea of what sort of direction DS the client will be going in the future. Maybe post it on the beta DS page. Check the wish-list page maintained by Konstantin: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/ DS An option so that, when editing a message, when you click in an DS area to the right of anything that's been entered already, the DS cursor is not simply placed in never-never land, but placed at the DS end of that particular line (also known as: disallow cursor DS placement beyond end of line). I think at first, most people who aren't used to this type of editing (If you've used Borland C++ IDE, then this is old hat), find it disconcerting. However, once you get used to it, you'll see it has much more flexibility than one which puts the cursor at the end of the line. I love being able to click anywhere in a message and start typing right at that spot. However, if you just can't stand it, version 2 is supposed to either have an option to choose whichever way you like, or supports an external user defined editor. Leif (my cursor, my choice) Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/18 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 10K brain attached to a 9600 baud mouth. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
