Re: Archiving old messages...
Tuesday, February 08, 2000, 8:51:29 PM, Jast wrote: . make the folder you want to move your messages in (duh) I suggest a subfolder of the sent mail. Actually, I do it as a sub-sub-folder of sent in an "archive" account. This causes a slight amount of redundance, but IMHO it's even better this way, as you always have a fully searchable archive in one folder. Alternatively you could just click that darned "include subfolders" button. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 5:41:43 AM, Dieter wrote: I normally delete all messages within TB after they have been archived with MBA. This keeps TB lean and fast. I never understood this. TB! currently handles... 876 messages in my personal account. 569 messages in my work account. 17030 messages in my personal archive account. At my work machine the personal archive is replaced with my work archive which holds, uhm, well, right now, just shy of 10,000. I've not seen any problems with speed with this setup. Do people really exceed ~18500 messages on a regular basis? I mean, how many people are as obsessive about keeping sent mail to the point of having over 2 years of archives? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Morning Steve Lamb, This causes a slight amount of redundance, but IMHO it's even better this way, as you always have a fully searchable archive in one folder. Alternatively you could just click that darned "include subfolders" button. :P I was referring to the quicksearch feature which does not work over different folders unless we had virtual folders. You know, I do like the functionality, if not the usability implentation of this. It's quick nonetheless :-D -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with 1.41 Beta/3 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 A AIM jasticle:.. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Thursday, February 10, 2000, 5:37:42 AM, Jast wrote: Morning Steve Lamb, This causes a slight amount of redundance, but IMHO it's even better this way, as you always have a fully searchable archive in one folder. Alternatively you could just click that darned "include subfolders" button. :P I was referring to the quicksearch feature which does not work over different folders unless we had virtual folders. Well, you said search. Besides, I've never seen it work and never really miss it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:28:38 +0900, John De Hoog wrote: 1. Configure the folder options to leave messages in the base for only 8 days. This can be done for the Send folder as well. Let it purge messages automatically after that period. 2. Use an automated backup program to save the mail database, preferably to a different volume than the one The Bat! is on, as generational archives. I have all my archives in a separate account as Steve so aptly suggested. I upkeep those manually and. I do automatically archive both my e-mail accounts folders and also my archive account folder weekly to my zip drive. I store them as .rar archives. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Oxymoron: Spending Cuts. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:41:43 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote: For archiving I use a neat utility called Mailbag Assistant. This also allows me to quickly search thru all mailboxes. I'm surprised at TB!'s performance with a lot of mail. I have a couple folders with 4000+ messages and these folders open smartly. TB!'s startup isn't as slow with folders containing a lot of messages as it used to be. I really don't mind archiving directly rather than using a separate app. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Friends come and go, enemies accumulate. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Hi, Instead of setting up a separate account, could I do something with setting up another user? If so, how could I relocate messages that I want to archive from one 'user' to the other 'user'? I haven't looked at multiple user features (it's only me!). I'd prefer to get the archived messages out of the main database. Don't know why exactly; I just would. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Tuesday, February 08, 2000, 2:22:59 PM, Mark wrote: However, I could not see a route to doing this through either the Sorting Office Filters or the properties tab of the 'Sent' folder. Also, I drew a blank on the FAQ and (as far as I could see) previous threads of this discussion list. Click on "created" tab and set it to descending order. Click on first message of the date range you want to move. Scroll down. Hold shift, click on the other end of the date range you want to move. Drag and drop marked messages to different folder. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Note to those snots that will point out that one would have to do this on a regular basis. I know that. But I am also of the opinion that when your archive folder gets large enough you'll come to understand that subdividing that archive up by year/month is wise and that you have to reprogram the filter each month to point to the new folder *anyway* and that reprogramming the filter is more work than the above described procedure. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Morning Mark R Harding, I wish not to lose my old 'sent' messages (stored by default in 'Sent') but because I currently have just over 1600 messages in this folder I find it slow to access. Since I commonly only refer to recent messages my idea was to set up some kind of filter or expiry that would be applied to the 'Sent' folder that would move all messages older than a given age (say 1 month..) to another folder purposefully created to store an archive of the 'Sent' mail folder. Of course doing it manually like Steve suggested isn't a bad way to do it. But if you're happy with one large folder for old messages you can automate it fully: . make the folder you want to move your messages in (duh) I suggest a subfolder of the sent mail. . make a sent mail filter applying to all mails and check the action to copy message to another folder and select the one you created. . in the sent mail folder properties check the options "max number of stored messages" and/or "keep messages in base fore days" and "remove old messages". This causes a slight amount of redundance, but IMHO it's even better this way, as you always have a fully searchable archive in one folder. -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with 1.41 Beta/3 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 A AIM jasticle:.. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Hello, Jast, On Wednesday, February 09, 2000, you wrote: J Of course doing it manually like Steve suggested isn't a bad way to do it. J But if you're happy with one large folder for old messages you can J automate it fully Here's how I handle the archiving, while keeping The Bat! running lean and mean. 1. Configure the folder options to leave messages in the base for only 8 days. This can be done for the Send folder as well. Let it purge messages automatically after that period. 2. Use an automated backup program to save the mail database, preferably to a different volume than the one The Bat! is on, as generational archives. (So far no dial-up problems today; knock on wood.) -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://dehoog.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving old messages...
Earlier I wrote: JDH 1. Configure the folder options to leave messages in the base for JDH only 8 days. This can be done for the Send folder as well. Let it JDH purge messages automatically after that period. JDH 2. Use an automated backup program to save the mail database, JDH preferably to a different volume than the one The Bat! is on, as JDH generational archives. As most of you sharp people will realize, I meant to say for the second step that the automated backup program should backup your messages every week. (The weekly backups and 8-day retention will result in a small bit of overlap, but I think it is necessary to avoid losing articles due to international time differences. I'm not absolutely sure, but better safe than sorry.) Incidentally, I found that on NT (Japanese with SP5), NJWin CJK viewer Ver. 1.68 works extremely well for showing Japanese messages on The Bat! Ver. 1.80 and later do not work at all, although NJStar are working on the problem. I also tried NJWin on Poco, Pegasus, Calpyso and other programs, but The Bat! gives by far the best results. -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://dehoog.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
