Re: Dates...

1999-12-17 Thread Ali Martin

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:48:04 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

[]
AM I sort my messages by the received time though I leave that column out
AM of my mail listing.

 I don't understand how you can sort on a parameter you leave out. Do
 you mean you are not sorting them at all, just leave them in the order
 they come in?

Yes, I don't use the received column at all. I wish to see creation
dates, not received dates. Sorting by time received does do a better
job for me for TBUDL mail than sorting by creation time. Messages with
time stamps reflecting incorrect times on the original senders
computer fall appropriately into line.

You may sort according to received time using the 'View | Sort by'
options even though the received time column is not visible in the
message listing.

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Re: Dates...

1999-12-17 Thread Ali Martin

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:57:24 -0600, Travisimo! wrote:

[]
 shrug  I'm definitely in the GMT -0600 Central time zone.  Perhaps
 my mail goes to a mail server in the EST time zone?  I haven't a clue.
 Since only certain messages I receive have incorrect dates, I guess I
 can only assume it's an error external to my computer.

I strongly feel that this is so especially since you've confirmed that
your computer is showing the correct time and time zone.

[]
 But really, thanks Thomas, Roel, and Ali for answering my questions
 concerning the date/time and import/export.  :-)

You're welcome sir. :))

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Re: Dates...

1999-12-17 Thread Ali Martin

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:59:46 +0100, Roel wrote:

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TF I don't understand how you can sort on a parameter you leave out. Do
TF you mean you are not sorting them at all, just leave them in the order
TF they come in?

 set the column to display, sort on it, set the column to dissappear
 :-)
 the messages will be sorted... (but if you accidently click on a
 column-heading, you have to make the column reappear etc...)
 so if you're as handy as i am, i recommend that you keep the column
 you sort on in the picture :)

If I accidentally hit another column, Alt + V + S + R gets me
back in a flash. :)

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Re: Dates...

1999-12-17 Thread Keith Russell

Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Friday, December 17, 1999, 6:09:24 AM, Ali wrote:

 On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:59:46 +0100, Roel wrote:

 []
TF I don't understand how you can sort on a parameter you leave out. Do
TF you mean you are not sorting them at all, just leave them in the order
TF they come in?

 set the column to display, sort on it, set the column to dissappear
 :-)
 the messages will be sorted... (but if you accidently click on a
 column-heading, you have to make the column reappear etc...)
 so if you're as handy as i am, i recommend that you keep the column
 you sort on in the picture :)

 If I accidentally hit another column, Alt + V + S + R gets me
 back in a flash. :)

Actually, I just discovered that there are keyboard shortcuts there,
as well! So "Ctrl+1" does the job (or, in my case, I have to add a
"Ctrl+0", since I want descending order).


 Keith Russell
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Re: Dates...

1999-12-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Travisimo!,

On 16 December 1999 at 01:02:06 GMT -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made
these points:

T So  my  question  is: is The Bat displaying the date wrong for some
T reason,  should  I  assume  the  date is set wrong on this person's
T computer, or what? I know my date is set right.

Use Ctrl-Shift-K to examine the kludges and *see* what time stamps are
*really* on this message at the various stages of it's transmission to
you.

Cheers,
Marck
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Re: Dates...

1999-12-16 Thread Ali Martin

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:42:15 -0600, Travisimo! wrote:

 Ok, I understand that.  So I wouldn't want to sort my messages by the
 Received date because many messages could have the same stamp if I
 download them at once.

I sort my messages by the received time though I leave that column out
of my mail listing. I find that it works more reliably at listing the
messages in the correct order especially for my discussion list mail.
This is because of this very time problem that you're talking about.

Although you may download many messages at once, you still download
them in a particular order which is the order that they end up getting
listed. The original time stamp of the messages are unaffected by this
process.

TF What is the time zone of reference for the above times, i.e. in which
TF time zone are you located? I can't actually check that, because your
TF header on TBUDL comes from Dutaint/Indonesia.

 I am in the Central U.S. time zone, which is 1 hour before Eastern or
 2 hours after Pacific.  Is there a place in The Bat that I'm suppose
 to enter my time zone?  I know I have selected the correct time zone
 in Win98.  Since I am getting certain messages with the wrong Created
 time, could it be that the sender's computer has the wrong time zone
 setup?  In other words, why would I get a message reply showing a time
 earlier than the one I sent (which is impossible, of course).  How
 does The Bat know how to adjust the time to display it in the Created
 column?

Maybe the second parties time is not set correctly.

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