Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello TBUDL, I wanted to thank Thomas Fernandez for mentioning in passing that there was a bug in UIDL keeping which causes TB to download messages already downloaded. Up till now, I thought I was alone in receiving multiple downloads of messages. When I brought this to the attention of TB support, I received an overly condescending response suggesting that it was MY fault or the fault of my ISP and that if wanted to alleviate MY problem, I should review and delete messages on the server rather than download. This is the first that I have heard that there might be a bug in TB causing MY problem. If there is such a bug, all the suggested workarounds are unacceptable responses. -- Best regards, Lawrence Johnson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Lawrence, On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:49:31 -0600 GMT (02/12/02, 18:49 +0700 GMT), Lawrence Johnson wrote: I wanted to thank Thomas Fernandez for mentioning in passing that there was a bug in UIDL keeping which causes TB to download messages already downloaded. It is a known bug, but I currently cannot acces the bugtracker. Maybe someone else can check it, and report it again if not in there. Up till now, I thought I was alone in receiving multiple downloads of messages. When I brought this to the attention of TB support, I received an overly condescending response suggesting that it was MY fault or the fault of my ISP and that if wanted to alleviate MY problem, I am surprised about this, and I would have reported it again now. For some reason, I get a List Index out of bounds error from crazy browser when trying to access http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html to check for the bugtracking site. Actually, I don't know yet whether it is my TB-Beta version or something else with my computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 9:51:17 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: This works well, but at several hundred messages it is tedious work. I have not found a way to get the tickbox delete marked with a keystroke rather than the mouse, and to then move to the next message (also with a keystroke). Keystrokes would help me, they are much more convenient, so if there are any, kindly let me know. The spacebar will work to tick the box, but unfortunately if you move down to the next message using the down arrow, [Spacebar] works on the first ticked box, so if Read is ticked, then [spacebar] will untick this and not Delete. What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? Ctrl+3 (1 for Read, 2 for Receive, 3 for Delete and 4 for Open) in the Dispatcher window marks all messages for deletion. It works as a toggle, so you can turn off in the same way, but it also means that it will untick all ticked boxes and tick unticked boxes at the same time. Shift+3 will untick all ticked messages, but this is not a toggle, so you cannot turn the ticks on in the same way. It is good if you have some messages ticked - Shift+2 will untick them all, and Ctrl+2 will then tick them all. For quick deletion Ctrl+2 to untick Receive, and then F2 to execute the dispatch (delete the messages) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Thomas, snipped a bit What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? On Dispatcher try Alt+3 (Global/Set Flag/Delete). Not exactly what you want, but close. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Miguel, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:31:05 +0100 GMT (01/12/02, 17:31 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: snipped a bit What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? On Dispatcher try Alt+3 (Global/Set Flag/Delete). Not exactly what you want, but close. Let's say very, very close. Thanks! Now I don't need to tick all messages seperately with the mouse any more. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Julian, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:30:10 + GMT (01/12/02, 17:30 +0700 GMT), Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? Ctrl+3 (1 for Read, 2 for Receive, 3 for Delete and 4 for Open) in the Dispatcher window marks all messages for deletion. It works as a toggle, so you can turn off in the same way, but it also means that it will untick all ticked boxes and tick unticked boxes at the same time. Wow, crtl is even better than alt, as it toggles. Thanks. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hi Thomas, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 16:51:17 [GMT +0700], you wrote: TF Now it sometimes happens with one of my accounts that it gets pretty TF full within one day (10MB limit), and I need to delete the messages TF that are still on the server, after I have downloaded them. What about this suggestion: Create a catch-all incoming mail filter as your first filter, make it move message from the inbox to the inbox and let processing continue with other filters. In the options for this filter mark Delete this message from the server. This way, every message which was downloaded successfully (and thus triggers this filter) will be deleted from the server the next time you check for your mail. All others still remain on the server for the time you specified in the account properties. This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the server. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Lars, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 11:55:53 AM you [LG] wrote (at least in part): LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all DELE commands. RFC states DELE should be _real_ executed (on servers side) after QUIT was submitted, because before a client could still send 'RSET' which (a.o.) 'undeletes'. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Can't wait 'til the 22... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hi Peter, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 17:58:12 [GMT +0100], you wrote: LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. PP No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' PP command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 PP session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all PP DELE commands. Yes, it will. If a filter is set to delete messages from the server, it will only do so during the next mail check after the filter was triggered (I just tested this, just to be sure). If I understand Thomas correctly, his line isn't dropped every time he fetches his mail. So the deletion would eventually take place without user intervention. PP RFC states DELE should be _real_ executed (on servers PP side) after QUIT was submitted, because before a client could still PP send 'RSET' which (a.o.) 'undeletes'. OK, I knew that already. But I assumed that -- having downloaded most of the mails already -- Thomas' connection wouldn't reach the 20 minutes limit during a subsequent mail check and therefore *would* delete the messages when the connection is closed correctly. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Lars, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:15:37 +0100 GMT (02/12/02, 00:15 +0700 GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. PP No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' PP command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 PP session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all PP DELE commands. Yes, it will. If a filter is set to delete messages from the server, it will only do so during the next mail check after the filter was triggered (I just tested this, just to be sure). If the line is dropped again at the next mail check, will TB remember to issue this command every time again, until the message is successfully deleted from the server? If I understand Thomas correctly, his line isn't dropped every time he fetches his mail. Once I have downloaded all mails, the next check would go without problems, i.e. the connection finished by TB's issuing the QUIT command. At this moment, this is still a few MB (read: 2 or 3 mailcheck sessions) away for today. OK, I knew that already. But I assumed that -- having downloaded most of the mails already -- Thomas' connection wouldn't reach the 20 minutes limit during a subsequent mail check and therefore *would* delete the messages when the connection is closed correctly. Yes, but usually not during the mail session immediately following the one in which the mail was deleted then. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
