Re: ISP password

2009-11-08 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 7 November 2009 at 7:34:15 PM, in
mid:485837301.20091108062...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:


 G'day MAU,

 On Friday, November 6, 2009, at 2:21:57 AM, you (MAU)
 wrote:

M Download SIW (freeware) from http://www.gtopala.com/
M and use the Eureka! Tool to reveal passwords.

M Aside of that, SIW is a very good System Information
M software for  Windows.

 Interesting utility, however I find it a little
 disturbing how easily  a password can be revealed,
 particularly as there is a standalone  version of the
 utility that does not need to be installed and can be
 run from a USB stick.


It only goes to reinforce what we have all heard many times about
password protection in Windows being a rudimentary protection that
will defeat only the casual snooper.




 I know that utilities like this are designed to save
 some users from  themselves, but it is a touch
 dangerous as no one knows who will  actually end up
 using it and for what.

Presumably they will use it to reveal *somebody's* passwords (-;




 Personally, if someone cannot remember their password,
 then that is  their tough luck. There are many password
 managers (some are even  free).

Yes, a post-it note stuck to your monitor is in widespread use for 
this purpose and costs very little. (-;




 After all, there is no excuse
 given the low cost of external hard drives.

Is laziness not an excuse, then?



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Re: ISP password

2009-11-07 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Thursday 5 November 2009 at 7:52:01 PM, in
mid:1836385365.20091105135...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Thank you. It worked perfectly. Now all I have to do is
 find out if this new login requirement is going to
 prevent TB! from logging in to my ISP.

If so, it would probably prevent most other mail software as well. You
will probably tack your ZIP onto the end of your username or password,
perhaps with a defined separator character.



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Re: ISP password

2009-11-07 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

M Hi

M On Thursday 5 November 2009 at 7:52:01 PM, in
M mid:1836385365.20091105135...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Thank you. It worked perfectly. Now all I have to do is
 find out if this new login requirement is going to
 prevent TB! from logging in to my ISP.

M If so, it would probably prevent most other mail software as well.

Agreed. I take that knowledge as some small guarantee that it won't
cause me any trouble as I assume Charter Cable wouldn't want a
pitchfork and torches assault on their corporate offices.

M You will probably tack your ZIP onto the end of your username or
M password, perhaps with a defined separator character.

Hmmm, doubtful. The picture they provided as representing the new
login screen showed a separate field for the zip code. We'll see.

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Re: ISP password

2009-11-07 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 7 November 2009 at 2:37:39 PM, in
mid:118770178.20091107083...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 Hmmm, doubtful. The picture they provided as
 representing the new login screen showed a separate
 field for the zip code. We'll see.


http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r23297188-Email-from-Charter-about-adding-Zip-Code-to-login
 
suggests the change is only for webmail access


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Re: ISP password

2009-11-07 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

M Hi

M On Saturday 7 November 2009 at 2:37:39 PM, in
M mid:118770178.20091107083...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 Hmmm, doubtful. The picture they provided as
 representing the new login screen showed a separate
 field for the zip code. We'll see.


M 
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r23297188-Email-from-Charter-about-adding-Zip-Code-to-login
 
M suggests the change is only for webmail access

It looks like you're right. Although, the meaning of the notice doesn't
exactly leap right out at you does it?

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Re: ISP password

2009-11-05 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Miguel,

M Hello Jack,

 My problem is that I've used TB! for so long that I no longer remember
 what my ISP's password is. The ACCOUNT|PROPERTIES|TRANSPORT screen of
 course shows only dots where my password is. Is there any way to view
 the actual password?

M Download SIW (freeware) from http://www.gtopala.com/ and use the Eureka! 
M Tool to reveal passwords.

M Aside of that, SIW is a very good System Information software for 
M Windows.

Thank you. It worked perfectly. Now all I have to do is find out if
this new login requirement is going to prevent TB! from logging in to my
ISP.



-- 
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Re: ISP password

2009-11-05 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:16:39 -0600GMT (5-11-2009, 15:16 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL The ACCOUNT|PROPERTIES|TRANSPORT screen of
JSL course shows only dots where my password is. Is there any way to view
JSL the actual password?

RO Enable protocol logging for mail retrieval.
RO Your password (and username) will be displayed in clear text. 


Thank you Roelof. That's a little easier than Miguel's suggestion
although the SIW program he suggested sure returns a lot of
information.

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