Re: Image display problems

2010-03-11 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Thursday 11 March 2010 at 1:24:03 AM, in
mid:1034802929.20100310202...@gmail.com, Rick wrote:


 I had never bothered with it but it IS a problem - the
 index.html should keep track of images in the email.

 If you make a bug report, post the link here and I'll
 add comments for sure.  


It isn't a bug. When you view the index.html file in a browser, the 
images show up the same as they would if linked from any other HTML 
document (eg a web page). You can't see the images that were sent 
embedded with the email, since the links referencing them are not valid 
from within a browser. You have the option in TB! to view any or all 
of the linked images when viewing the message in HTML viewer; if you 
don't get a pop-up list asking which URLs to allow, look for a button 
showing a globe and question mark. The attached/embedded images will 
show automatically, since there is no external URL for you to 
validate.


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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-11 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:30:53 PM, Rick wrote:
 
 No bug here? 
wad 
  
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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-11 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:46:54 PM, Rick wrote:
 
 We're talking about 2 different things. I am talking about images
 included with the email that show in the email in the bat, but not
 when the same email is loaded in a browser. 

that  is what he is talking about also. If it's already in the email, 
and  there  is  no  link  to  the image in the html file, how can the 
browser find it? and how can the bat tell the browser to find it. the 
browser is looking on the web for images, no in TB 
  
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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Jack,
Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:09:31 AM, you wrote:

JSL I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it.
JSL Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and
JSL shows up in the side pane as such.  The remainder of the pictures are
JSL actually embedded in the body of the email.

What  are  the  extensions  on  the  pictures? ie  Are they all jpg's? Maybe the
viewer is unable to display the others.

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Rick
 Fellow list members,

 I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it.
 Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and
 shows up in the side pane as such.  The remainder of the pictures are
 actually embedded in the body of the email.

 This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of
 the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is
 contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box.

 Ideas?

I get this a lot in Yahoo groups. There is one image that can be
viewed. Open the index.html and they SHOULD all be visible except the
one that was visible in the message. If so, the issue is external
links in the email

The fix is for Ritlabs to add a button to show external links in this
email

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 you wrote:

 Fellow list members,

 I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it.
 Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and
 shows up in the side pane as such.  The remainder of the pictures are
 actually embedded in the body of the email.

 This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of
 the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is
 contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box.

 Ideas?

R I get this a lot in Yahoo groups. There is one image that can be
R viewed. Open the index.html and they SHOULD all be visible except the
R one that was visible in the message. If so, the issue is external
R links in the email

R The fix is for Ritlabs to add a button to show external links in this
R email


Hmmm, interesting.  While viewing the email in TB I have two icons in
the left pane: MESSAGE.HTML and ATT1.JPG; the ATT1.JPG being
the sole image viewable from within TB.  If I double-click on the
MESSAGE.HTML icon it causes my browser (FireFox) to be launched and
lo, all the images appear *except* the ATT1.JPG image just as you
describe.  Never thought to try this with previous problematic emails
from this person.

Has this been brought to RIT Labs attention?

Thank you Rick.  I'll try this on the next message I have trouble with
from this person.

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Rick
 Hello Rick,

 On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 you wrote:

 Fellow list members,

 I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it.
 Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and
 shows up in the side pane as such.  The remainder of the pictures are
 actually embedded in the body of the email.

 This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of
 the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is
 contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box.

 Ideas?

R I get this a lot in Yahoo groups. There is one image that can be
R viewed. Open the index.html and they SHOULD all be visible except the
R one that was visible in the message. If so, the issue is external
R links in the email

R The fix is for Ritlabs to add a button to show external links in this
R email


 Hmmm, interesting.  While viewing the email in TB I have two icons in
 the left pane: MESSAGE.HTML and ATT1.JPG; the ATT1.JPG being
 the sole image viewable from within TB.  If I double-click on the
 MESSAGE.HTML icon it causes my browser (FireFox) to be launched and
 lo, all the images appear *except* the ATT1.JPG image just as you
 describe.  Never thought to try this with previous problematic emails
 from this person.

 Has this been brought to RIT Labs attention?

 Thank you Rick.  I'll try this on the next message I have trouble with
 from this person.

I had never bothered with it but it IS a problem - the index.html
should keep track of images in the email.

If you make a bug report, post the link here and I'll add comments for
sure.

-- 
Rick
Have you ever wondered if the one-dollar bills in your wallet were ever in a 
stripper's butt crack?
If not, you're wondering now.

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Sam Brown
Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:46:22 PM, Jack wrote:

 I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it.
 Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and
 shows up in the side pane as such.  The remainder of the pictures are
 actually embedded in the body of the email.

I think you are talking about images that are linked, not embedded. The first 
image you refer to is embedded, the rest are linked.

 This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of
 the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is
 contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box.

GMail displays all the images because it's being viewed inside a browser, which 
obviously is designed to show all linked images.

R I get this a lot in Yahoo groups. There is one image that can be
R viewed. Open the index.html and they SHOULD all be visible except the
R one that was visible in the message. If so, the issue is external
R links in the email

R The fix is for Ritlabs to add a button to show external links in this
R email

That is what the URL Manager does, essentially, just with higher security in 
that it allows you to selectively allow or block images linked to external 
sources.

JSL Hmmm, interesting.  While viewing the email in TB I have two icons in
JSL the left pane: MESSAGE.HTML and ATT1.JPG; the ATT1.JPG being
JSL the sole image viewable from within TB.  If I double-click on the
JSL MESSAGE.HTML icon it causes my browser (FireFox) to be launched and
JSL lo, all the images appear *except* the ATT1.JPG image just as you
JSL describe.  Never thought to try this with previous problematic emails
JSL from this person.

Because a browser shows linked images.

JSL Has this been brought to RIT Labs attention?

JSL Thank you Rick.  I'll try this on the next message I have trouble with
JSL from this person.

In the sense that there's a button right there on the email to display the URL 
Manager... Look for the button that shows a globe with a question mark in the 
lower right corner.

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:33:48 PM, Sam Brown wrote:
 
 In the sense that there's a button right there on the email to
 display the URL Manager... Look for the button that shows a globe
 with a question mark in the lower right corner.
 
right. there is no bug here
  
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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Rick
 On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:33:48 PM, Sam Brown wrote:
  
 In the sense that there's a button right there on the email to
 display the URL Manager... Look for the button that shows a globe
 with a question mark in the lower right corner.
  
 right. there is no bug here
   
If you have inline images, they show. IF you click INDEX.HTML and open
the email in a browser, the images do NOT show. (red x)

No bug here?

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Sam Brown
Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:30:53 PM, Rick wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:33:48 PM, Sam Brown wrote:
  
 In the sense that there's a button right there on the email to
 display the URL Manager... Look for the button that shows a globe
 with a question mark in the lower right corner.
  
 right. there is no bug here
   
R If you have inline images, they show. IF you click INDEX.HTML and open
R the email in a browser, the images do NOT show. (red x)

R No bug here?

The images are not shown by default unless you explicitly allow images to be 
downloaded from a source. If the images are attached to the email, they show. 
That is because they are attached. If the images are referenced 
(linked/sourced) in the email, they will not show until you give TB! permission 
to show them. This is a security feature of TB!.

If you are opening the html component of the email in a browser and images also 
do not show there, well, that's a more complicated issue, but it also proves 
the issue is NOT with TB! and is instead a problem with the email or the images 
the email is linking to.

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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Rick
 Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:30:53 PM, Rick wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:33:48 PM, Sam Brown wrote:
  
 In the sense that there's a button right there on the email to
 display the URL Manager... Look for the button that shows a globe
 with a question mark in the lower right corner.
  
 right. there is no bug here
   
R If you have inline images, they show. IF you click INDEX.HTML and open
R the email in a browser, the images do NOT show. (red x)

R No bug here?

 The images are not shown by default unless you explicitly allow
 images to be downloaded from a source. If the images are attached to
 the email, they show. That is because they are attached. If the
 images are referenced (linked/sourced) in the email, they will not
 show until you give TB! permission to show them. This is a security feature 
 of TB!.

 If you are opening the html component of the email in a browser and
 images also do not show there, well, that's a more complicated
 issue, but it also proves the issue is NOT with TB! and is instead a
 problem with the email or the images the email is linking to.

We're talking about 2 different things. I am talking about images
included with the email that show in the email in the bat, but not
when the same email is loaded in a browser.

-- 
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Re: Image display problems

2010-03-10 Thread Sam Brown
Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:46:54 PM, Rick wrote:

R We're talking about 2 different things. I am talking about images
R included with the email that show in the email in the bat, but not
R when the same email is loaded in a browser.

That would be because the images are attached to the email. Loading the 
index.html only involves that file, images attached to the email won't show up 
in the html file because the references won't be valid.

This isn't a bug with TB!, that's just how html emails work.

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