Re: japanese TEXT messages
Hello lister, On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:54:37 -0700 (PDT) GMT (11/08/2004, 09:54 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lpc quick question regarding japanese. I am able to read HTML and rich text lpc messages sent in japanese, but any plain text messages just display as lpc gibberish. any suggestions? You posted this here earlier and got no reply. I guess the others using Japanese have left the list; there were problems reported earlier. All I can say is that I have no problem displaying Chinese (Big5). I don't know why it makes a difference, but I know I am of no help. Sorry. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wenn ich nur darf, wenn ich soll, aber nie kann, wenn ich will, dann mag ich auch nicht, wenn ich muss. Wenn ich aber darf, wenn ich will, dann mag ich auch, wenn ich soll und dann kann ich auch, wenn ich muss. Denn schliesslich: Die, die koennen sollen, muessen wollen duerfen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: japanese TEXT messages
Hello lister, Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 10:54:37 AM, you wrote: lpc I get: lpc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP lpc in the headers fine, but changing the viewer from text to the HTML viewer lpc has no effect. lpc I thought i was getting somewhere chaning the default display font for lpc editing messages, to make sure it was a font with japanese characters lpc associated. however, now when typing (using the plain text/ windows) lpc editor, japanese comes out but the characters are rotated 90 degrees! lpc Further when a message is sent it comes out in gibberish at the other end... Download this, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/iconv.zip , and set all font to MS gothic or MS Mincho (not the @-blah font)perhaps solve the problem. lpc is anyone using TB! for japanese or is becky the only choice? the DBCS and Unicode support of TB is very poor currently. I also use becky to handle DBCS message. It's pretty good to read/write DBCS/Unicode mail. And its plugin system is also fascinating. :-) -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Japanese Capability?
Hi Robert, On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:04:02 +0900GMT (07/06/2001, 11:04 +0800GMT), Robert Kidd wrote: RK I am in the process of making a purchase decision and I need to have a RK Japanese capable e-mail client. Does the English version of The Bat have RK the ability to send and receive Japanese e-mail flawlessly? I was waiting a bit to wait for our Japan fraction to say something, but they don't seem to be online. So I talk about Chinese: From my POV, it works flawlesssly under Chinese Win 98. ?That means I can read and write Chinese language messages without any problems (except that I don't read/write the language). However, there is one flaw that makes it unusable for actual Chinese people: TB does not wrap Chinese text, as there are no spaces between the characters and TB treats a whole dissertation as one long word. Correct line break should be at xxx characters throughout the text, anything else is considered impolite over here. Does that answer your question in any way? There is also a home page by a guy called de Hoog (forgot the URL, but I think his first name was John), and on his webpage he compares several mailers under Japanese, including an old version of TB. He lives in Japan. Try to hunt for that website. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese Capability?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robert, On 07 June 2001 at 12:04:02 +0900 (which was 04:04 where I live) Robert Kidd wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: moderator Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. Thank you. /moderator RK I am in the process of making a purchase decision and I need to have a RK Japanese capable e-mail client. Does the English version of The Bat have RK the ability to send and receive Japanese e-mail flawlessly? RK Laugh Learn! RK Get The Joke! RK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / SB! v1.53/iKey1000( 55238-48F0B) on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7H0eiOeQkq5KdzaARArvaAJ43MU3SpCvYKTCmp0EdRorTW53l7gCeK8rg 7xvcoOgq5He9HQJZlbuVWec= =Cw6l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese Capability?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Thursday, June 07, 2001 at 13:41:47 +0800, Thomas [T] wrote concerning 'Japanese Capability?': T There is also a home page by a guy called de Hoog (forgot the URL, but T I think his first name was John), and on his webpage he compares T several mailers under Japanese, including an old version of TB. He T lives in Japan. Try to hunt for that website. I think it's: http://dehoog.org/html/j-email.html - -- Best regards, David ** Yo Mama so fat she has 2 area codes... ** [TB! 1.53 RC/1] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Build 05 Comment: PGPkeys: http://dvanzuijlekom.cjb.net//D_van_Zuijlekom.asc iQA/AwUBOx9ZBVK9yf5+yp9NEQI8QwCfdZXhmlhRaqJo6uztFi3PwNNlpt4An2nE wUTxrVojmqMmVHiEdl26KEiX =dQYx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese Capability?
Hi Marck D Pearlstone, Your message was: Hi Robert, moderator Please do not write to the list in HTML. I apologize for the error. I never use html to send messages except today because I am having problems with my Eudora. I turned on HTML in Eudora to test the text editing function which has been acting up recently and I forgot to turn it off. Again I am sorry if this has caused you any trouble. This problem is one of the reasons why I am writing to inquire whether the English Version of TB can flawlessly receive and send e-mail in Japanese from a Win2000 machine. I have not had any definitive answers yet but I thank those who have provided information so far. Robert Kidd Laugh Learn! Get The Joke! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese in The Bat! and Win2000
I received a private tip on this question from Eberhard Hafermalz [EMAIL PROTECTED] (who gave permission to publicize it) about using KanjiKit2000 (which I guess is the new name for UnionWay). This works quite well with The Bat!, at least for Japanese display, but has the unfortunate side effect of interfering with proper display in Word2000. (It's also quite expensive, although its usefulness extends to other programs I use such as NewsBin Pro.) It would be nice if The Bat! supported an external editor/viewer, so people in my situation could use a program that handled their language of choice instead of the built-in editor, which is not geared to Japanese use. My conclusion for now is, I'll continue using a Japanese mailer until TB2 delivers true two-byte language compatibility. -- John De Hoog, Tokyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Japanese email software: http://dehoog.org/html/j-email.html -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese in The Bat! and Win2000
Hi, phil, You wrote: p ³?µ?¢. ?»?ê ?à?Á?Æ -lq³?µ?¢?Å?»?Ì?±?¤?à?è! p Romaji Kanji here. Though I know nada-zero-nit about Japaneese. p If some of this comes out legible do tell me. Not legible here, I'm afraid, even on my regular Japanese mailer. BTW, I discovered that KanjiKit 2000 can be set with different code pages per application, allowing me to use it for The Bat! without compromising other applications that don't need it. Great! -- John De Hoog http://dehoog.org Using The Bat! 1.42c on Windows NT 5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese in The Bat! and Win2000
Hi John, On 10 May 2000 at 21:55:22 GMT +0900 (which was 13:55 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Japanese in The Bat! and Win2000": ... any news on a Ver. 2 beta, first promised in February of this year? Only that Alexander V. Kiselev (who is reputedly in closer proximity and contact with RITLabs than the rest of us and who has also recently resigned from the lists) stated that an early beta was currently scheduled for the end of this month. Whether or not Max and Stef can meet that deadline may yet be ambitious. We shall see. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.42c S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese
Hi Oleg, On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:10:21 +0500GMT (19/04/2000, 18:10 +0800GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: CJT And now this ;). Well, Cyrillic is a totally different alphabet than CJT any kind of CJK! It has a sensible number of characters, not like CJT Japanese thousands. Don't ask me how many - I don't know, nor I know CJT Cyrillic itself. OZ 33 in Russian, 31 in Bulgarian, in Ukrainian more than in Russian OZ don't know about others. 44 consonants and 12 vowels (plus some tone markers etc) in Thai. 24 letters in Laotian. 26 letters in Arabic. 30 letters in German. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese
Hello Gary, On Monday, April 17, 2000 you wrote: I have someone who is interested in TB! in the States here, and he wondered if he can receive things in Japanese. Does a Cyrillic character set cover this? LOL. Sometimes I am surprised how little people know about different languages :). Just a few days ago I explained one guy from Switzerland that Polish language uses normal Latin alphabet (with some accented characters) and he was very surprised. And now this ;). Well, Cyrillic is a totally different alphabet than any kind of CJK! It has a sensible number of characters, not like Japanese thousands. Don't ask me how many - I don't know, nor I know Cyrillic itself. Of course don't take it personally :) -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/18 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Japanese
Hi there! On 17 Apr 00, at 14:05, Gary wrote about "Japanese": I have someone who is interested in TB! in the States here, and he wondered if he can receive things in Japanese. Does a Cyrillic character set cover this? Joking?;-) Cyrillic is for Slavic languages, like Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Bulgarian, Byellorussian, etc. There are no Slavs in Japan;-))) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: If God had intended for us to go to concerts, He would have given us tickets. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
