Re: Leave messages on server
Hi On Monday 17 November 2008 at 8:00:28 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marek Mikus wrote: Hello all, Monday, November 17, 2008, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: The question is -- What happens after the x days have elapsed? Are ALL the messages on the server deleted or only those over x days old? if You set 0 for example and check server tomorrow (from 00:00 next day), all todays and older messages will be removed only. If You set 1, all messages older than 1 day will be removed only. Presumably the deletion is on instruction from TB! at the start of the subsequent visit to the server? If so, where does TB! store this info about the age of messages recently downloaded - I mean, could you prevent the deletion by removing or editing some file within your TB! installation before revisiting the server? -- Best regards, MFPA Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave messages on server
Hello all, Monday, November 17, 2008, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: The question is -- What happens after the x days have elapsed? Are ALL the messages on the server deleted or only those over x days old? if You set 0 for example and check server tomorrow (from 00:00 next day), all todays and older messages will be removed only. If You set 1, all messages older than 1 day will be removed only. The second question is -- If I needed to re-fetch a message that had already been downloaded ie, no longer 'new', can I get TB to do it somehow or do I have to visit the server from my browser to see it or try to forward it to myself? Yes, You can use Message Dispatcher in Account menu to see what messages are stored on server and select them for receive or delete without receiving for example. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.34.22 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.1 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave messages on server
Hello Marek, Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:00:28 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Monday, November 17, 2008, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: The question is -- What happens after the x days have elapsed? Are ALL the messages on the server deleted or only those over x days old? MM if You set 0 for example and check server tomorrow (from 00:00 next day), MM all todays and older messages will be removed only. If You set 1, all MM messages older than 1 day will be removed only. The second question is -- If I needed to re-fetch a message that had already been downloaded ie, no longer 'new', can I get TB to do it somehow or do I have to visit the server from my browser to see it or try to forward it to myself? MM Yes, You can use Message Dispatcher in Account menu to see what messages MM are stored on server and select them for receive or delete without MM receiving for example. Thank you Marek. Your description of how messages are deleted from the server is as I hoped it was. I tried Message Dispatcher and it works exactly as you described. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
Hallo Stuart, On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:00 -0600GMT (27-3-2005, 20:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SC My theory here is that I would be able to download a given message SC on any of the machines for 21 days from the time I downloaded that SC message on the 21 day machine. After 21 days I had assumed the SC message would be deleted from the server. This appears not to be SC happening as I have messages dating back to January still on the SC server. That should work, but as you have only one system that deletes messages you have to run that system regularly. Apart from that I've experienced that TB can get confused when you change the the time you're keeping your messages, so when you've still got messages from January, but most of February's are missing than this could have happened. In the meantime you can delete the messages you want to get rid of by using the dispatcher. -- Groetjes, Roelof Move away from the tagline. You have ten seconds to comply. The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpYdcSmKIdVF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
Dear Luigi, @28-Mar-2005, 11:11 +0200 (28-Mar 10:11 UK time) Luigi Civilotti [LC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Roelof: LC Can anyone kindly tell me how I can delete my email LC address from this list? Current version is 3.x | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html The above is appended to the bottom of every message passed through the TB lists. Clicking that link will take you to the page containing all the information you need to manage a subscription on the TB lists. Or, with a message from one of the TB lists selected, you may click on the 'Specials' menu item and choose one of the options from the 'Mailing List' sub-menu. When leaving the list, don't forget to reply to the confirmation request from the list server. Your departure will not complete without it! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpoLoNtgOyFz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
Hi Stuart, The original quoted text below was written on 27/03/2005 19:08 my local time; Is my thinking wrong or is an error in The Bat execution? Sorry to sound stupid, or stating the obvious, but what about IMAP? -- Chris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:56:38 GMT, wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have the leave messages on the server option selected in the mail management preferences for the account. This does not appear to be working! Any ideas? Version is 2.04.07, running on XP SP1 Not confirmed here. For my primary e-mail address, I leave msgs on the server for a period of days or until they're deleted from trash, which gives me time to D/L them into my work system. Under the same version and O/S as you're running, it works for me. -- JN Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
How-do-you-do, Jast posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: J Morning Simon, Good God! My fingers are groaning at the idea of it! And this is a valid _shortcut_? :) 'carpophalangeal contortionism' perhaps? J Hell yeah! I just tried it. But I managed with 2 hands ie I needed neither J chin nor feet! J This is how it works: Press Ctrl+shift with the left little finger (the J fingernail on shift and the rest on Ctrl), while the left ring finger J reaches for Escape. Now, slowly pull the appropriate forefinger to the D J key, as not to hurt it. Now, position your thumb above Alt and slowly go J down without pressing Esc (can you feel the strain?) The rest is easy: J right forefinger on F12, thumb on Enter, little on on numlock. Now press J and watch all hell break lose! ROTFL J FWIW, it brought the ticker window in the foreground. It was worth it then ;) I have relatively stubby fingers, so I could not manage your super excellent method. Here is an alternative for others with my affliction: Get a box of pencils from out of the cupboard and some sticky tape. Whilst dangling eight pencils in mouth leaning forward over keyboard, adjust each 'prodder' till positioned over keys. Now, with all prodders in place, frantically bind together using a wide stirring motion beneath your chin. Now, every time you want to bring the ticker window to the foreground you can just pick up your widget and tap the keyboard ;) -- OK, I didn't try it. Slán anois, Simon send private mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Usin' TB! v1.41 registered !-- hide from brain dead browsers Lhomme est bien insensé. Il ne saurait forger un ciron, et forge des Dieux à douzaines! (Man is quite insane. He cannot create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen) MONTAIGNE 1533-1592 //-- stop hiding from brain dead browsers -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
On Monday, March 13, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote: PF Actually, Thomas, it's DEL. :P You are right, and I didn't know that - supporting the original poster's claim of missing documentation. It's on the menu! But DEL only deletes but does not go to the next message. Any ideas here? I imagine the reasoning is that delete is only one of the options that may be set for a message. So, the focus stays on the message until the user changes it. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.41 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
How-do-you-do, Blimey (no he didn't) posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" Good God! My fingers are groaning at the idea of it! And this is a valid _shortcut_? :) 'carpophalangeal contortionism' perhaps? Slán anois, Simon send private mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Usin' TB! v1.41 registered !-- hide from brain dead browsers Lhomme est bien insensé. Il ne saurait forger un ciron, et forge des Dieux à douzaines! (Man is quite insane. He cannot create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen) MONTAIGNE 1533-1592 //-- stop hiding from brain dead browsers -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Patrick wrote: "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" S Good God! My fingers are groaning at the idea of it! And this is a valid S _shortcut_? :) 'carpophalangeal contortionism' perhaps? PE can you say EMACS? ;) Heh, at least in emacs you don't need to hit all of the keys at the same time... ;) -tom! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Morning Simon, Good God! My fingers are groaning at the idea of it! And this is a valid _shortcut_? :) 'carpophalangeal contortionism' perhaps? Hell yeah! I just tried it. But I managed with 2 hands ie I needed neither chin nor feet! This is how it works: Press Ctrl+shift with the left little finger (the fingernail on shift and the rest on Ctrl), while the left ring finger reaches for Escape. Now, slowly pull the appropriate forefinger to the D key, as not to hurt it. Now, position your thumb above Alt and slowly go down without pressing Esc (can you feel the strain?) The rest is easy: right forefinger on F12, thumb on Enter, little on on numlock. Now press and watch all hell break lose! FWIW, it brought the ticker window in the foreground. -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.41 : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hi Jast, On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:57:22 +0100GMT (14/03/2000, 09:57 +0800GMT), Jast wrote: J Hell yeah! I just tried it. But I managed with 2 hands ie I needed neither J chin nor feet! J This is how it works: Press Ctrl+shift with the left little finger (the [...] ROTFLMAO! J FWIW, it brought the ticker window in the foreground. LOL -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Thomas, the wise guy, wrote: I mean "D" in pine; this would probably be "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" in TB - but only if you use a US keyboard g. Actually, Thomas, it's DEL. :P -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.41 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hi Paula, On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:51:31 -0500GMT (13/03/2000, 09:51 +0800GMT), Paula Ford wrote: I mean "D" in pine; this would probably be "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" in TB - but only if you use a US keyboard g. PF Actually, Thomas, it's DEL. :P You are right, and I didn't know that - supporting the original poster's claim of missing documentation. But DEL only deletes but does not go to the next message. Any ideas here? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 Beta/5a under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hello Keith, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:06:36 PM, you wrote: KR I try to use "Dispatch mail KR on server" nightly Doing the same here (with a lot less mail). In addition to your points, I sorely miss the option to sort the mail list by clicking on a heading. -- Best regards, István -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hallo Keith, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:06:36 -0700 GMT (12.03.2000, 00:06 +0800 GMT), Keith Russell wrote: I have "leave messages on server" checked on my office machine for my private account, and my home machine "delete(s) messages on server". And vice versa. While I see no reason to have all messages on both machiens, people work differently. Steve Lamb has a system by archiving all mails on a zip drive and carrying them back and forth - ftp would do it too. This way, all messages are on both machines. However, your question concerns the despatcher. KR I used the menu option Global/Toggle flag/Delete (shortcut Ctrl+3) KR to mark all messages for deletion. Then I had to find the last KR message I remembered reading at work, and UNCHECK Delete for all KR following messages (about 50 last night, but there might be several KR hundred if it takes me very long to get to my email). It is really annoying having to click on a couple messages, scrolling down, clicking on the next couple,... I did this once. KR Is no one else dealing with this problem? Can you tell me if "Leave KR message on server until retrieved at both my sites" has been KR requested for version 2? Not that I know of. KR Also, can anyone tell me how to find out more about how Message KR Dispatcher works? And how do the rest of you use it? Sometimes; rarely. As it requires an online connection, I use pine right on the server when I need to delete messages without downloading. Thus, I think, a keyboard shortcut that deletes a message and moves the cursor to the next message would come in handy in the despatcher. I mean "D" in pine; this would probably be "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" in TB - but only if you use a US keyboard g. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:08:41 AM, István wrote: Hello Keith, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:06:36 PM, you wrote: KR I try to use "Dispatch mail KR on server" nightly Doing the same here (with a lot less mail). In addition to your points, I sorely miss the option to sort the mail list by clicking on a heading. Yup! -- Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Keith Russell wrote: ... Now, I find the "dispatch" option very difficult to use. You're not alone. I have found very little documentation on the feature anywhere, and I have no idea how the entries are sorted. It's probably the least documented major component of TB, but with POP accounts its features are pretty basic. I hope that they are sorted in the order received by my server, but I'm not sure that is the case. Seems to be. At any rate, this is how my cleanup procedure looked last night: snip Ugh! If you are only concerned about having 'important messages' available at both places, might not it be easier to forward important messages to yourself at your work address. So, you could check messages during the day, leaving them on the server. Then, from home, download and delete all messages, including any new ones that have arrived since you last checked at work. Then, forward to your work address any messages you want to have available at work, assuming that "important" doesn't mean tons of messages. If you get a few duplicates at work, they'd be pretty easy to delete. Seems less work to me than what you do now. Agent, which I used for my email for several years before switching to The Bat!, has an option called "Leave message on server until retrieved at both my sites", which allowed me to avoid all this. I used to read email at both work and home with never any worry about receiving all messages both places, or about messages piling up at the server. What happens if a user has more than 2 sites? I know that TB has the option "Keep messages on server for x days". I prefer not to use this option because a couple of my mailing lists only get read once a week or so, and I can't wait that long to clean up the server. I don't understand what you mean here. If you've downloaded the messages at both work and home, why can't you set TB to automatically delete messages from the server every 2-3 days? Or, are you selectively downloading? Is no one else dealing with this problem? Yes, but they use other solutions, like transporting the message base back and forth on zip disks. Can you tell me if "Leave message on server until retrieved at both my sites" has been requested for version 2? Don't think so. Also, can anyone tell me how to find out more about how Message Dispatcher works? You seem to have uncovered about all there is to the Mail Dispatcher with a POP account. And how do the rest of you use it? Before using TB, I used Calypso, which despite its other limitations, handles dealing with messages on a POP server about the nicest way I've ever seen in a mailer. So, I used to always review messages before downloading, since downloading my e-mail can take quite a bit of time and I'm not interested in most messages I receive. With TB, however, the Mail Dispatcher is such a limited tool that I quickly abandoned trying to preview messages. It ends up taking more time than downloading all the messages. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.41 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:43:40 AM, Thomas wrote: I have "leave messages on server" checked on my office machine for my private account, and my home machine "delete(s) messages on server". And vice versa. Almost all the mail I receive via TB is personal; it all comes to a single account. Work messages come via Lotus Notes. While I see no reason to have all messages on both machiens, people work differently. Steve Lamb has a system by archiving all mails on a zip drive and carrying them back and forth - ftp would do it too. This way, all messages are on both machines. Yes, I know. I've tried doing that with other types of data; it's a real pain in the neck. Even the way I do it is easier than that! However, your question concerns the despatcher. KR I used the menu option Global/Toggle flag/Delete (shortcut Ctrl+3) KR to mark all messages for deletion. Then I had to find the last KR message I remembered reading at work, and UNCHECK Delete for all KR following messages (about 50 last night, but there might be several KR hundred if it takes me very long to get to my email). It is really annoying having to click on a couple messages, scrolling down, clicking on the next couple,... I did this once. Once? 8-) Yes, another problem is that, as far as I can tell, there is nothing like Ctrl-Click or Shift-Click; it's always one at a time. KR Is no one else dealing with this problem? Can you tell me if "Leave KR message on server until retrieved at both my sites" has been KR requested for version 2? Not that I know of. In that case, I'll definitely submit a request. KR Also, can anyone tell me how to find out more about how Message KR Dispatcher works? And how do the rest of you use it? Sometimes; rarely. As it requires an online connection, I use pine right on the server when I need to delete messages without downloading. Part of my problem is that my new ISP only allows POP3; no pine or elm. It's one of the things I gave up for a permanent 10 Mbps connection directly into the Internet backbone; I think it's worth it! Thus, I think, a keyboard shortcut that deletes a message and moves the cursor to the next message would come in handy in the despatcher. Yes, that would definitely help I mean "D" in pine; this would probably be "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D" in TB - but only if you use a US keyboard g. ROTFL! Thanks, as usual, for your comments, Thomas. -- Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 2:19:00 PM, Paula wrote: On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Keith Russell wrote: ... Now, I find the "dispatch" option very difficult to use. You're not alone. Thanks. Sure glad it's not just me! [snip] I hope that they are sorted in the order received by my server, but I'm not sure that is the case. Seems to be. Wish we could tell for sure At any rate, this is how my cleanup procedure looked last night: snip Ugh! If you are only concerned about having 'important messages' available at both places, might not it be easier to forward important messages to yourself at your work address. So, you could check messages during the day, leaving them on the server. Then, from home, download and delete all messages, including any new ones that have arrived since you last checked at work. Then, forward to your work address any messages you want to have available at work, assuming that "important" doesn't mean tons of messages. If you get a few duplicates at work, they'd be pretty easy to delete. Seems less work to me than what you do now. I've actually considering doing it this way. The problem is that a standard forward loses the sender information; a redirect will lose other header information. I thus lose a lot of my searching capability. Agent, which I used for my email for several years before switching to The Bat!, has an option called "Leave message on server until retrieved at both my sites", which allowed me to avoid all this. I used to read email at both work and home with never any worry about receiving all messages both places, or about messages piling up at the server. What happens if a user has more than 2 sites? You're out of luck 8-). At various times last year, I used Agent, Becky!, The Bat!, Eudora, and probably others I've forgotten, as I tried to decide on a new client. I would download the same messages several times before I wanted them deleted from the server. Obviously, in this situation, that feature was no help; I had to delete them from the server manually. However, I usually used Becky's mail dispatcher for this; it's much easier to use than TB's. I know that TB has the option "Keep messages on server for x days". I prefer not to use this option because a couple of my mailing lists only get read once a week or so, and I can't wait that long to clean up the server. I don't understand what you mean here. If you've downloaded the messages at both work and home, why can't you set TB to automatically delete messages from the server every 2-3 days? Or, are you selectively downloading? No, you're right, of course. Must have been super tired when I wrote that one The real problem is that the messages really have to be deleted every day or two, so if I set this option, I need to remember to disable it before I leave on a trip for several days. Constantly changing it back and forth is a nuisance. Is no one else dealing with this problem? Yes, but they use other solutions, like transporting the message base back and forth on zip disks. As I mentioned in my response to Thomas, I don't consider this a solution. Can you tell me if "Leave message on server until retrieved at both my sites" has been requested for version 2? Don't think so. Thanks. I'll submit it. Also, can anyone tell me how to find out more about how Message Dispatcher works? You seem to have uncovered about all there is to the Mail Dispatcher with a POP account. And how do the rest of you use it? Before using TB, I used Calypso, which despite its other limitations, handles dealing with messages on a POP server about the nicest way I've ever seen in a mailer. So, I used to always review messages before downloading, since downloading my e-mail can take quite a bit of time and I'm not interested in most messages I receive. With TB, however, the Mail Dispatcher is such a limited tool that I quickly abandoned trying to preview messages. It ends up taking more time than downloading all the messages. It sounds like it isn't getting much use. Hopefully, 2.0 will have a much better-thought-out dispatcher. Thanks for the reply. -- Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues
Hello Keith, On Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 21:20:54 GMT -0700 (which was 8:20 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I don't understand what you mean here. If you've downloaded the messages at both work and home, why can't you set TB to automatically delete messages from the server every 2-3 days? Or, are you selectively downloading? No, you're right, of course. Must have been super tired when I wrote that one The real problem is that the messages really have to be deleted every day or two, so if I set this option, I need to remember to disable it before I leave on a trip for several days. Constantly changing it back and forth is a nuisance. There are a couple of cases to look at, 1) both your machines are offline when you go on a trip. In this case, you don't have to worry about changing the settings. TB will not delete messages that arrived in your server mailbox more than a couple of days ago. It will delete messages that TB thinks has been in there for more than a couple of days. What does this mean? TB doesn't know about the messages unless it has been checking the server. So if you go on a week-long trip on March 20, and you get a message on March 21, then you check your mail on March 27, TB will not delete the message from the server until a couple of days after March 27. To be doubly sure, you can always set the computer that you check second (after a trip) to be the one that deletes messages from the server after x days. Case 2) One computer is online and checking mail while you're away. Easy solution is to have the computer that is offline doing the deleting. Leave the other computer set so it never deletes anything off the server unless you are using the Mail Dispatcher. Case 3) Both computers are online and checking mail while you're away. This one isn't a problem, since both will have a copy of the message before deleting anyway. Assuming there are no crashes with one of the computers. -- Thanks for writing Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
