Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, August 18, 2005, 10:22 AM, you wrote: CP What makes it stranger is that when I open the editor to reply to this CP message, the Greek word is quite legible in the Subject line! FWIW, it looks fine in the editor while I'm typing this. I sussed this, at least part of it, and reported what I found on TBBETA. The characters are rendered in the View Folder window when using Plain Text View. For me, when I'm in Rich Text View, I see only little boxes for those Greek characters in the View Folder Window. The clue for me was that even Costas reported on this thread that the characters showed okay in the MicroEd window. So, like you, I thought font, Thomas. It sort of is. But I think it's the whole difference between RTV and PTV, so far as the message body is concerned. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Mary, Thursday, August 18, 2005, 6:51:30 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Hello Thomas! On Thursday, August 18, 2005, 10:22 AM, you wrote: CP What makes it stranger is that when I open the editor to reply to this CP message, the Greek word is quite legible in the Subject line! FWIW, it looks fine in the editor while I'm typing this. I sussed this, at least part of it, and reported what I found on TBBETA. The characters are rendered in the View Folder window when using Plain Text View. For me, when I'm in Rich Text View, I see only little boxes for those Greek characters in the View Folder Window. The clue for me was that even Costas reported on this thread that the characters showed okay in the MicroEd window. So, like you, I thought font, Thomas. It sort of is. But I think it's the whole difference between RTV and PTV, so far as the message body is concerned. I don't know if I can express it correctly, but what I have now in my email folders is one email from Thomas mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: It shows in the headers part of the Message Preview window the Subject line with the Greek word Λύθηκε that I wrote, but in non Greek characters. I also have message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Mary where the above Greek word in the Subject line appears correctly in Greek! Do you see my point? I'm sure that neither Thomas nor Mary edited the Subject line. You mustt have both replied to a message. Yet, the Greek word in the Subject line in one case changed from Greek to gibberish and in other it remained in Greek. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Costas! On Thursday, August 18, 2005, 11:05 AM, you wrote: Do you see my point? I'm sure that neither Thomas nor Mary edited the Subject line. You mustt have both replied to a message. Yet, the Greek word in the Subject line in one case changed from Greek to gibberish and in other it remained in Greek. Perhaps the difference is that I replied to Thomas's Reply to you, whereas Thomas replied to your message. In my direct reply to you, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the Greek characters are replaced with those strange little boxes. Would you consider writing something to TBBETA about this whole thing, especially as it relates to the Subject: field? We are both running betas now and I think it's appropriate to discuss it on the beta list as well as here. It's particularly a concern of mine, because 9Val has said they are especially paying attention to testing the headers in the current beta (beta v. 3.60.01 for those who don't know that the latest one is just out, as of yesterday). After that, maybe one of us can put an issue note on the BT and get the ball rolling toward getting it fixed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Greg! On Thursday, August 18, 2005, 11:28 AM, you wrote: Since I'm using v3.60.01 Beta characters are an issue, I'm cc'ing to TBBETA. Thanks a mil, Greg! I'll follow you there. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Thomas, Thursday, August 18, 2005, 7:28:16 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): I think this may be a beta issue. Are you subscribed to TBBETA? Yes I am. I see that the issue has already been taken over to TBBETA in addition to a posting that I made there earlier, so hopefully it will be picked up by the developers. Otherwise, a Bugtraq entry will be necessary. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello, Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 4:41:34 PM, Ι partly wrote: When I write Greek into the Subject field, the text appears correct. However, as soon as I click elsewhere with the mouse, the Greek text in the Subject changes to gibberish (for example fd?d). It also happens when I add Greek text to the Subject of a message being replied to. I remembered that prior to the hard disk format the Language for Non-Unicode programs in the regional settings was Greek. So, I changed it to Greek and now it's alright. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 8:09:57 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Hello Costas, On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:08:21 +0300 GMT (17/08/2005, 21:08 +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: When I write Greek into the Subject field, the text appears correct. However, as soon as I click elsewhere with the mouse, the Greek text in the Subject changes to gibberish (for example fd?d). CP I remembered that prior to the hard disk format the Language for CP Non-Unicode programs in the regional settings was Greek. So, I CP changed it to Greek and now it's alright. Looks fine here. Let's see how it appears on the list. This is getting weirder. The Greek word that I wrote in the Subject line is *not* readble in the Message List window and also not readable in the headers above the Preview window. What makes it stranger is that when I open the editor to reply to this message, the Greek word is quite legible in the Subject line! -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Costas! On Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 12:26 PM, you wrote: Looks fine here. Let's see how it appears on the list. This is getting weirder. The Greek word that I wrote in the Subject line is *not* readble in the Message List window and also not readable in the headers above the Preview window. What makes it stranger is that when I open the editor to reply to this message, the Greek word is quite legible in the Subject line! Confirm both behaviors, using the latest beta, v.3.60.01. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 8:31:50 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Confirm both behaviors, using the latest beta, v.3.60.01. It has to do with the difference between iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-7 parameter that appears in the Subject line. I'm not technically proficient to explain it nor to say why when a message is replied to, this changes from say, iso-8859-1 to iso-8859-7 or vice versa. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with the Subject field *SOLVED* ( Λύθηκε)
Hello Costas! On Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 12:37 PM, you wrote: Confirm both behaviors, using the latest beta, v.3.60.01. It has to do with the difference between iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-7 parameter that appears in the Subject line. I'm not technically proficient to explain it nor to say why when a message is replied to, this changes from say, iso-8859-1 to iso-8859-7 or vice versa. So, will you post to TBBETA about it? I will then confirm it for you there. 9Val particularly asked for comments on Header behavior in his announcement of v. 3.60.01 this morning. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
