e away from being scanned.
> Hopefully with a huge underground/under-oceanic tunnel to run away to Europe
> without being fingerprinted.
>
> Katy
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, John P Brooks wrote:
>
> > From: John P Brooks
> > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big
under-oceanic tunnel to run away to Europe without being fingerprinted.Katy--- On Tue, 9/1/09, John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:> From: John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big Brother> To: "'Cavers Texas'" <t
rmine whether
or not an attempt to erase or disable the thing has succeeded unless you have
access to an appropriate reader or scanning device.
Rod
-Original Message-
>From: Linda Palit
>Sent: Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM
>To: 'Mixon Bill' , 'Cavers Texas'
>
&g
Riordan
> Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 6:03 PM
> Foil hat- I hear ya Joe!
> I'm currently working on building a compliant Faraday Cage
> to keep out
> Big Brother (who I'll f
There have been people in the past who were in teaching postions that were
offenders.
Quinta
I have 4 greatgrandchildren from kindergarden to 5th grade. My grandaughter is
a teacher and she does not mind in the least. I does make you easy to eleminate
if they have fingerprints also.
/1/09, John P Brooks wrote:
> From: John P Brooks
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big Brother
> To: "'Cavers Texas'"
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 8:48 PM
> Scan away...I have nothing to
> hide.Its all around us...and is probably pointless to
> wor
rnoon. Word limits suck.
Fritz
From: Linda Palit [mailto:lkpa...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:25 PM
To: 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
Traditionally being fingerprinted was associated with being a crimina
Hi Bill,
As I understand it (we haven't gone to this in Oregon yet), the thumbprint on
your DL is to help prevent identity theft. You can (if you're good enough) put
somebody else's picture on the DL, but it's hard to replace the print.
I think the one that I resent the most is the little rf
, Linda Palit wrote:
From: Linda Palit
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big Brother
To: "'Mixon Bill'" , "'Cavers Texas'"
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 12:18 PM
Microwave disables the strip? Or was it the freezer?
eting the word
>> limits, so enough of this for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:23 PM
>> *To:* katy...@yahoo.com; Texas Cavers
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother
ably this is becoming way off topic, and I am not meeting the word
> limits, so enough of this for me.
>
>
>
> *From:* Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:23 PM
> *To:* katy...@yahoo.com; Texas Cavers
> *Subject:* RE: [T
I had to do much more that fingerprints when my daughter married a German
national in the GAF. Where I was born what I belonged to.
Names of my grandparents and much more.
I was certainly given the once over in Germany when I went there and learned to
take a carry on with one change of clothes.
]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:23 PM
To: katy...@yahoo.com; Texas Cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
I'm a federal employee. My prints have been on file for years. I do not find
it humiliating or feel that my privacy has been invaded. Why were you so
humiliated? Our co
27;re from, but how does your
country verify the identification of foreign nationals?
Louise
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:49:50 -0700
> From: katy...@yahoo.com
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
>
> Hm,
>
> Can we (the for
Microwave disables the strip? Or was it the freezer?
Passports have them too, at least the new ones do.
-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:07 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Big Brother
Nobody has me
s. Of course, that was
in a kinder, gentler era.
Louise
From: lkpa...@sbcglobal.net
To: gi...@att.net; texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:21:35 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
Was crossing in Charlie’s bus one
Anyone seen the excellent German film, "The Lives of Others?" It's
about the Stasi (Secret Police) in Germany, and how the eavesdropping
that occurred in Eastern Germany on friends and neighbors so often
destroyed lives. The big take-home message for me was that by and
large most of the inf
I put this in a different category than invading my personal laptop or>>>> tapping my phone, but in a digital age, perhaps it all runs together.>>>>>>>> -Original Message->>>> From: Katy Roodenko [mailto:katy...@yahoo.com]>>>> Sent:
things much different than it once was.
>>
>> I put this in a different category than invading my personal laptop or
>>
>> tapping my phone, but in a digital age, perhaps it all runs together.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>>
1, 2009 8:50 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
Hm,
Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason come to visit USA) encrypt
our fingerprints? I have never been to any as humiliating process as this
one: being taken my fingerprints at the US
[mailto:katy...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:50 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
Hm,
Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason come to visit USA) encrypt
our fingerprints? I have never been to any as humiliating process as this
one: being taken my
who shouts loudly on privacy but really forgot what "privacy" really
means!
Really, if I had a kid, I would not like it to be educated by these teachers.
Katy
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Don Cooper wrote:
> From: Don Cooper
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
> To:
If you really want to drive them crazy, encrypt a bunch of random number tables
and watch them try to decrypt them into something meaningful. ;)
-Original Message-
>From: Mixon Bill
>Sent: Aug 31, 2009 9:47 PM
>To: Cavers Texas
>Subject: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
>
>Surely the
@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill
Edigar
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:14 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Herman Miller wrote:
Upon returning to the United States the DHS has a huge amount of au
I figure if you re-constitute zeros and ones on my computer with enough
permutations, you can make up just about anything including 9/11 plans and
blueprints for thermonuke devices.
I am all FOR encryption. If its MY bizness, then it should STAY my
business. As far as probing things I've though
I would like to point out that the same rights available to search vehicles
and persons coming into the country are available, though arent enforced as
heavily, to vehicles and persons leaving the country, I dont have the time
to find the specific section in 8 USC dealing with this though a current
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Herman Miller wrote:
> Upon returning to the United States the DHS has a huge amount of authority
> to search anything and everything in your pocession, literally anything they
> want to look at is open game.
Herman is exactly right. ANY and every time you cross
All this does is clarify and establish written guidelines regarding the
search and seizure of electronic gadgets. Previously to this guidance there
really wasnt written and even now there are cases moving through the supreme
court in deciding what constraints should be placed on electronic devices
This is just too weird, practically that very same article appeared in
GovExec.com this morning:
CBP to continue searches of travelers' laptops
By Gautham Nagesh gnag...@govexec.com
August 28, 2009
The Homeland Security Department announced on Thursday that it will continue to
allow Cus
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