[Texascavers] off topic --- UT surplus auction in Austin

2011-03-15 Thread Jim Kennedy
Another auction is being held the 23rd of March. There is a 1981 John Deere backhoe with a high bid (so far) of only $550. Many other items. Go to http://www.swicoauctions.com/viewAuction.php?auctionid=276 to get the details and see the rest of the list. Several other auctions are listed under

[Texascavers] Blair Pittman Update Tue AM

2011-03-15 Thread dirtdoc
I had the following e-mail from Jean this morning: Dwight  I am in Alpine trying to get essential bills paid and to stock up on portable work, computer, and fresh clothes. Will be headed back (to the Odessa hospital)  this afternoon.

[Texascavers] OT - map of nuclear plant location

2011-03-15 Thread David
This post is only to help those following the news headlines in Japan. If you click on the link at the bottom of this post, you should see an aerial map of the nuclear plant in Japan that has had 4 hydrogen explosions. There is a scale in the bottom left of the map.You can zoom out, by

Re: [Texascavers] OT - map of nuclear plant location

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Riordan
David, First of all have you learned nothing from the movies? Nuclear fall-out, if anything, should make the fruits abnormally large, and likely glow in the dark. Second, and slightly more serious, is anyone else frustrated by the sudden expert stance of reporters on the nuclear power plants?

[Texascavers] Colorado Caves may be reopened for NSS convention

2011-03-15 Thread Lee H. Skinner
/*Caves closed last summer to protect bat populations may be re-opened for NSS caving convention this summer: http://summitcountyvoice.com/2011/03/15/forest-service-wants-comment-on-temporary-cave-plan/ Lee Skinner */ - Visit

[Texascavers] Re: Blair Pittman

2011-03-15 Thread David
For you that don't know Blair, here in east Texas, he is most famous for the book below: http://www.fsbooks.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_book_infoproducts_id=217 You can sometimes find it in the Texana section of used book stores, or in the nature section. Of course, he is better

[Texascavers] Re: WNS and Cave Access

2011-03-15 Thread mminton
This reply is a little late. The best evidence I know of that cavers are _not_ spreading WNS is that it first appeared in the Northeast in 2006, although no one knew what it was or understood the implications until a year or more later. In the mean time the 2007 NSS Convention was

Re: [Texascavers] Re: WNS and Cave Access

2011-03-15 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I'll play this game: If cavers were a good vector, surely it would have been seen there way before now. Mark Minton (currently river caving in Puerto Rico) To which I respond: I was on a cross-country flight and everyone around me was sniffling and sneezing but I didn't get sick.  Surely, I am

RE: [Texascavers] Re: WNS and Cave Access

2011-03-15 Thread Stefan Creaser
...alongside that dodo who clubbed the last dodo Are you saying that the extinction of the Dodo was an inside job?!!! S. From: Andy Gluesenkamp [mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:52 PM To: mmin...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Texascavers] Re: WNS and Cave Access

2011-03-15 Thread Stephen Fleming
On 03/15/2011 12:52, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: I'll play this game: If cavers were a good vector, surely it would have been seen there way before now. I agree with Mark. To which I respond: I was on a cross-country flight and everyone around me was sniffling and sneezing but I didn't get

Re: [Texascavers] Re: WNS and Cave Access

2011-03-15 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Read the studies. Viable Gd spores were picked off of packs that were deconned before entering the cave. I'm not saying I like the closures. I'm just saying better to err on the side of caution until we know more. Lots of good people are working hard to get a handle on this thing. Andy

[Texascavers] spread of WNS

2011-03-15 Thread Mixon Bill
People are asking the wrong question. It is of course impossible to prove that white-nose syndrome can't be or hasn't been spread by cavers. It is impossible to prove it isn't God's revenge for some sin committed by a bat buff, either. But it unquestionably can be spread by bats. No cavers

Re: [Texascavers] spread of WNS

2011-03-15 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Bill, You could have just quoted your tag line. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue,

[Texascavers] Off Topic - analysis of the Japanese nuclear problem

2011-03-15 Thread dirtdoc
The post-earthquake nuclear crisis The Japan syndrome Mar 15th 2011, 17:05 by The Economist online Here is a nice. clear, and unemotional analysis of the Japanese nuclear problems.   The Economist has done their usual clear and informative writing, but it does help if you are

Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2011-03-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, texascavers-h...@texascavers.com wrote: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com. I respectfully request your permission to

Re: [Texascavers] on topic --- UT surplus auction in Austin

2011-03-15 Thread David Ochel
Yes, Including fancy drafting tables: http://www.swicoauctions.com/viewItem.php?itemid=101416 http://www.swicoauctions.com/viewItem.php?itemid=101417 Cheers, David On 3/15/11 9:39 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: Another auction is being held the 23^rd of March. Thereis a 1981 John Deere backhoe with

[Texascavers] NSS Directors Election

2011-03-15 Thread R D Milhollin
forward from the VAR list: The 2011 NSS Director Election is underway. Look for your official ballot in the mail soon! This year, the Nominating Committee is pleased to offer a slate of 11 candidates for 4 Director positions on the NSS Board of Governors. Please study each candidate's

[Texascavers] The Boiling Springs of Colorado Bend

2011-03-15 Thread S S
On this last trip to CB we took a jaunt down to see Gorman falls and it was noticed that down by the edge of river the water appeared to be boiling. Closer inspection found many bubbles roiling out of the sediment packed into an obvious fissure in a few inches of water along the creek bank

[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention: Gear adjustment and safety workshop

2011-03-15 Thread David Ochel
Howdy all you Texas vertical cavers, Becky Jones and I will be hosting the following workshop at the Spring Convention: On rope - Gear adjustment and safety workshop Saturday, 5 - 7 pm This is for everybody who owns vertical gear. Do you feel you are lacking efficiency when climbing on

[Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread R D Milhollin
There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to

[Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread dirtdoc
I did transgress. Got carried away with the other posts.  SORRY DirtDoc

Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread Don Arburn
How do we subscribe to the off topic list? I enjoy these campfire conversations. Don's iPhone. On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:32 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I did transgress. Got carried away with the other posts. SORRY DirtDoc