Re: [Texascavers] Lascaux Museum

Some architects--not all. They should have hired you. On 12/22/2017 9:52 AM, John Brooks via Texascavers wrote: https://www.archdaily.com/868408/lascaux-iv-snohetta-plus-casson-mann?ad_medium=adbo_17 New  Lascaux Museum. This is what architects think caves look like.

Re: [Texascavers] Digging Question

Or use the Crash Trash Extractor! On 12/3/2017 5:20 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers wrote: Track hoe with a grapple (claw-type grabber attachment). Jim Mobile email from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:08 AM, John Brooks via Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting - Saturday January 6th - Gov't Canyon SNA

Rob, my primary question is: what is the status of The Texas Caver? A secondary question: how many current paid members are there in the TSA? (which reminds me that since I did not attend TCR I probably owe membership dues). I don't plan to attend the Jan 6th

Re: [Texascavers] Jimmy Walker

Carl, thanks for the brief description of Jimmy Walker. Wow, what an interesting, multi-talented person. Not surprised that he would be one of the pioneer cavers in Texas. Hope you and others who knew him will write a Memorial for the NSS News, and the next issue of the

Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of Texas

Re: [Texascavers] [TCR 2017 Success!]

Shout Shout, Here Here! Pete has been bringing his hot tube and sauna to TCR, and several NSS Conventions in Texas , longer than many of the younger attendees have been alive! The cooks and crew also deserve thanks, because they always work hard, even if your taste

Re: [Texascavers] Spring 2018 BOG meeting

You're the President. It should be at your house.:-P On 10/16/2017 8:11 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers wrote: Folks, Do any of the Texas Grottos want to host the Spring 2018 NSS Board of Governors meeting. It’s pretty easy to do. For more information,

[Texascavers] TCR success

Don, I agree with previous comments. I missed this TCR but have attended most during your time as Director. You have the right combination of skills and foresight to set basic rules to prevent unnecessary problems, but keep it loose enough to allow everyone to have

Re: [Texascavers] Caving Article in the San Saba Star 1963

Over 30 San Saba Caves Located: Report on Project Turnover The Texas Caver, Sept. 1963, Vol. VIII, No. 9, pp. 89-90, 92-93 T. S. A. Project - San Saba The Texas Caver, Aug. 1963, Vol. Viii, No 8, pp. 81-82, and Cover Cartoon (Announcement, with cover tr

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Indiana University freshman found after surviving three days in a cave

Thanks Lee. Does anyone know of a similar incident like this where someone has been inadvertently locked inside a cave? Ironic that his name is Cavar. Logan McNatt On 9/22/2017 1:25 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] "Drone" use in Mexico cave hunting

Interesting. Good research, Terry. On 9/20/2017 5:54 PM, Terry Holsinger via Texascavers wrote: A short PSA for those cavers going/caving in Mexico and looking at using a Drone while in country. Reading a recent page about "Drone

Re: [Texascavers] Tom & Janie White

Louise, what years did they cave and who would they know? Where do they live on the Gulf? I have a fairly long contact list of old-time Austin cavers who don't subscribe to most social media. So send me names of people who associated with them, if you can remember.

Re: [Texascavers] Send me your Colorado Bend Photos!

Hi Kris,   Great project!  I hope Keith Heuss, Butch Fralia, and Terry Holsinger, and others will be invited as special guests, right? They certainly deserve recognition. They have some golden oldies of the place when cavers were going there before it was a park. If

[Texascavers] my unsubscribe call may result in a new caver in India!

I want to share an unusual phone conversation I had today. As one of the Texas Speleological Survey Directors, I sometimes get unsolicited "Small Business" mailings to TSS c/o my address. Got one today from Dell, so I called to unsubscribe. The representative needed the

Re: [Texascavers] Stone's presentation on Cueva Cheve and Cueva Juniper

Bill Stone's presentation at last night's University of Texas Grotto meeting on the 2017 Cueva Cheve expedition and the new discovery of nearby Cueva Juniper (not Jupiter) was indeed beyond description. The planning, skills, and teamwork of a top-notch international crew

Re: [Texascavers] NPR ?

Please explain how they got rid of you. On 6/27/2017 9:06 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: I have noticed a lot of cavers like NPR.    I know nothing about it.  I will look into it someday. I do not listen to or

Re: [Texascavers] need auto repair advice

Bill Mauldin's cartoons depicted WWII from the viewpoint of the common G.I. (Willie and Joe). He won a Pulitzer Prize for his work in 1945 at the age of 23.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mauldin On 6/24/2017 5:18 PM, Charles Loving via

Re: [Texascavers] Apache hires U.S. cave institute to study water in West Texas’ Alpine High oil field :

Thanks for the news update, Jerry. This quote from the related article really bothers me: "In addition, at least four of the nine members appointed to the parks and wildlife commission work for oil companies or own mineral rights, including Kelcy L. Warren, chief

Re: [Texascavers] If you know Bob Liebman

David, If you would like to give that helmet a good permanent home, please consider donating/loaning it to the TSS "Museum". We have a display of historical items that have been donated by numerous old-time cavers. It includes helmets, carbide lamps, ropes and vertical

[Texascavers] Cave ballads on NSS website

The NSS (National Speleological Society)  website has many cave ballads that you can listen to. I couldn't find Jan Conn's version of "Dark as a Dungeon" by song title, and not sure what year it came out, but I've heard it and it's great. Another one she wrote is one of

[Texascavers] The Texas Cave Diatom Project

Dr. Barbara Winsborough asked me to send the attached updated description of her Texas Cave Diatom Project. This project is a great opportunity for Texas cavers to collect data that has never been studied before. The process as explained is so easy that anyone can do it,

Re: [Texascavers] Govt Canyon Jan 7, 2017 trip report

Marvin, thanks for the trip report, and congratulations to the team on surveying the deepest cave so far in Government Canyon. Given the long drive in and out, the cold, and the mud, that was a well-earned 23.85 m of survey. Logan

[Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR CAVERS] A request for info on translocation of bats

Forwarded Message Subject: [SWR CAVERS] A request for info on translocation of bats Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:24:40 -0700

Re: [Texascavers] websites?

I couldn't connect either, Marvin. Logan McNatt On 12/26/2016 9:36 AM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers wrote: Neither the TSA or the TSS websites are working this morning. Is it just me or is there a larger

Re: [Texascavers] Who fired the canon at TCR?

Yes, it was Ronnie Fieseler, as a tribute to Charlie Yates, who died in August. Charlie was a 1970s caver with the Southwest Texas State Grotto at San Marcos (now Texas State). He was a "living history" reenactor, and co-owned the cannon with Ronnie, who is also

[Texascavers] Calif caver needs ride from Austin to NCRC in Bend

Posted on behalf of Frank Binney. Please reply to Robert Darrahrobertdar...@yahoo.com Forwarded Message Subject:Carpool to NCRC in Bend? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 20:03:35 -0800 From: Frank Binney To: Logan McNatt

Re: [Texascavers] Movie by the Pond, at Pete Strickland's

ADVISORY:  This movie is rated HR--Hair Raising. FREE ADMISSION*:  If you bring photos and IDs of yourself and friends taken during your long-hair years. (Especially if you no longer have hair.) *Just kidding LowGun On 11/11/2016 8:37 AM, Gill

Re: [Texascavers] Geoff Robertson's adventure

Thanks Bill. On 11/7/2016 10:18 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: A few days ago Mark Minton wrote about Geoff Robertson's getting lost in the Sierra de El Abra. The AMCS has a copy of the Austin American Statesman's article (easily discovered at

Re: [Texascavers] Geoff Robertson lost in the El Abra

The Austin American-Statesman published a long article on Sat. Dec 6, 1980 titled "Spelunker's trip becomes jungle ordeal", based on a telephone interview they  had with "Jeff".  I have an original clipping of the article, but hopefully Bill Mixon or someone else also

Re: [Texascavers] 1974 video correction; 15 minutes long

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Re: [Texascavers] Silvertip; 1974 video

Jean Crejca will give a presentation at the Nov 2nd UTG meeting about the 2015 survey of Silvertip.  To give you some historical perspective, watch this video about one of the early trips to the cave.  Not sure if you have to subscribe to Facebook to view it. The

[Texascavers] Fwd: 2017 Mexico Road Atlas Just Arrived

Title: 2017 Mexico Road Atlas Just Arrived Forwarded Message Subject: 2017 Mexico Road Atlas Just Arrived Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:01:53 +

[Texascavers] video of TCR 2016 by Dorothy Mladenka

Dorothy Mladenka in Houston asked me to send this link because she is not a subscriber to the texascavers list. It is a 4:19 minute silent video she put on youtube of the Texas Caver Reunion 2016 at Paradise Canyon. She describes it

[Texascavers] TCR: memorials for Charlie Yates and Blair Pittman

I have arranged with Joe Ranzau, Peter Sprouse, Don Arburn, and Ron Fieseler to have a brief memorial for Charlie Yates and Blair Pittman during the Friday evening wine party. If all goes according to plan, it will include: old photos provided primarily by Dwight Deal, Pete Lindsley, Carl

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Walsh contact?

The contact info Jim sent is NOT CORRECT. Mike may not want his contact info broadcast on the list. We're in touch because he has lots of photos of Charlie Yates and other old SWT cavers.  I've let him know about Bill's message and that some people would like to

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Walsh contact?

I'll send it to you, Bill. On 10/11/2016 10:01 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: I have received in inquiry from a caver in the eastern US about the Texas caver who has a place in Aquismón, Mexico. That would be Mike Walsh, but I have no current contact info for him at all. Presumably

[Texascavers] Texas Caves book by Blair Pittman at TCR

The TSS will have copies of Blair's book Texas Caves for sale at TCR for $15. Here's the TSS price list for publications that will be for sale at TCR. http://texasspeleologicalsurvey.org/PDF/TSSprices.pdf Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com ___

Re: [Texascavers] remarkable discovery

Scale? On 10/3/2016 12:31 AM, David via Texascavers wrote: The link below, shows a large pool of cavepearls, each the size of a bowling ball, taken by the Rosetta probe, shortly before it crash landed on comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko

Re: [Texascavers] James Reddell: 2016 KWI Karst Award - save the date

Congratulations James. For those who know him, you can imagine him jumping up and down, whooping and hollering, and throwing a big party like he does with all the other awards he has received. Yeah, right. ;-) His typical understated response doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate it, and he

Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]

Combining washing dishes with mud wrestling could make an interesting event. On 9/12/2016 9:40 PM, Aubri Jenson via Texascavers wrote: I'd like to referee the mud wrestling!! Of course I can wash dishes or something, too... Aubri

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting

Thanks Aubri! On 9/1/2016 3:40 PM, Aubri Jenson via Texascavers wrote: For those that have asked, Ben Schwartz' presentation on Tears of the Turtle exploration in Montana has been archived and is available here:

Re: [Texascavers] Authors of Scientific Articles

Mr. Mixon just loves to poke at the scientists on this list because he knows he'll get a reaction (especially from Diana!). I've enjoyed the explanations and comments from her and others. The Texas caver family includes quite a few scientists in a variety of

[Texascavers] we don't need no stinkin' badgers

Charley, Don, Jacqui, and Nancy, Charles wrote: Saw a badger here a few weeks ago. Big critter and mean looking, not to be messed with. I suggest we take this discussion off-list, because we've strayed from the original message that Jerry posted about porcupines in caves. Anyone else is

Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

Very interesting study, thanks Jerry.  Cavers spend a lot of time in the wild and encounter lots of wildlife--both fauna and flora. For the interested, I highly recommend the book Texas Natural History: A Century of Change, by David J. Schmidly, Texas Tech

[Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR CAVERS] Fwd: [wbwg] Fwd: M.S. project on Leptonycteris in TX

Forwarded Message Subject: [SWR CAVERS] Fwd: [wbwg] Fwd: M.S. project on Leptonycteris in TX Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 17:14:56 -0600

Re: [Texascavers] Used vertical gear for sale

Ben, I just left a voicemail. Call me at 512-462-9581 (hm landline). Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 8/22/2016 11:48 AM, Ben Starr via Texascavers wrote: Fellow cavers, I've come to that awful moment in my life where I

[Texascavers] Charlie Yates obituary

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[Texascavers] service for Charlie Yates Aug 27th

Received from Jon Vinson, Sun Aug 14th There is a small death notice in today’s Austin Statesman paper about Charlie. It says “Charles M. Yates age 65 of Dripping Springs passed away Aug. 10, 2016. Service Aug. 27, 10:00am at Weed-Corley-Fish Lake Travis Chapel, Lakeway, TX.”

[Texascavers] update on Charlie Yates

Ron Fieseler called this morning. No dates yet for memorial(s). There may be two--one for his statewide compadres of Texian reenactors, Republic of Texas history buffs, and black powder folks--and another one for cavers. A new Facebook group was established recently by Paula Good called

[Texascavers] Charlie Yates, old SWT caver, passed

Just got the sad news that Charlie Yates died several days ago of a probable heart attack. He was an active caver in the Southwest Texas (SWT) Grotto in San Marcos from ca. 1970 through the mid-1970s. I've contacted all the old SWT cavers and friends in my address book, and will send an update

[Texascavers] WNS Decontaminator at NSS Convention, Ely

Forwarded from the SWR Cavers list Interesting video of the decontamination setup at the NSS Convention in Ely, NV https://vimeo.com/178359518 Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Locklear arrives at NSS Convention

Frank Binney asked me to forward this photo he took of Locklear and himself at the NSS Convention in Ely, NV. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Can you post this on Texas Cavers? Sent from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list |

Re: [Texascavers] Invitation - Ozona

Dedicated to Locklear. My favorite line:  "Is anybody goin' to San Antone, or Phoenix, or Ozona?" LowGun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWe9v3KsQQ On 7/15/2016 9:14 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: I am in the town of La

Re: [Texascavers] Marsha Meredith

Hi Marsha, You didn't give your email address so I have to send this to the list. Surprised to see your name pop up. So that was your suitcase and pillow! Send your email to me; haven't seen you in "ages" and would like to catch up. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 7/13/2016 1:35 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] Comal County Caving

Marvin, Thanks for your report on today's trip by Bexar Grotto cavers to Kleck Park in Comal County. Refreshing to read a caving trip report on the texascavers list. Hope it will encourage other Texas cavers to send their reports. There is a lot of caving going on in Texas but much of it

Re: [Texascavers] James Reddell receives 2016 KWI Karst Award :

James, Congratulations! The award is well-deserved for your lifetime of work in biospeleology, and places you in a very special group. Thanks to KWI for honoring James and all the previous recipients. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 6/24/2016 1:00 AM, Jerry via Texascavers wrote: James

Re: [Texascavers] Inner Space Caverns

Yes Mark, there is a nearby Steam Cave. Given the spelling problems with names, be aware that Steam Cave is not named after Chuck Stuehm, even though they are pronounced the same. On 6/23/2016 1:28 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote: Was one of the other caves on Laubach's place called

Re: [Texascavers] Old Caving Photo

Top row, left to right; Frank Binney, Mark Minton, Lisa Wilk Btm row, center Bill Liebman (?); I don't recognize the guys on left and right Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 6/20/2016 8:22 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] Rare Blind Catfish Found in US for First Time

Congratulations to Jack Johnson (NPS); Peter Sprouse and Jean Krejca (Zara Environmental); Dean Hendrickson, Gary Garrett, and Adam Cohen (UT Austin);  Andy Gluesenkamp and Ben Hutchins (TPWD), and Dante Fenolio (San Antonio Zoo) for their involvement in this

Re: [Texascavers] Airman's River Video

Justin & Galen,     Very interesting, thanks for taking and sharing the videos. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 6/14/2016 6:24 AM, Justin Shaw via Texascavers wrote: Greetings, As most of you know, much of Airman's Cave is

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting location

Not everyone who attends the meeting is on this list, so if the location is different, be sure to put a notice on the doors of Painter 2.48 and 4.42. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 5/31/2016 9:43 PM, Aubri Jenson via Texascavers wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Members statistics on website

Thank you, Alex & Bob, for putting the NSS Members statistics on the website. Another very interesting statistic would be the quantity/per cent of members by gender through the years. How long has that been recorded on the membership applications? I suspect there would be a significant

Re: [Texascavers] Texas NSS Members--some statistics

Julia G Germany germa...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Logan McNatt via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> To: Cave

[Texascavers] Texas NSS Members--some statistics

The NSS Members Manual used to include a statistical summary of NSS members by various categories. I was curious about Texas so contacted the Manual Editor Kelly Smallwood, who referred me to Bob Hoke. Bob has been compiling data for the NSS Members Manuals for years,

[Texascavers] NSS members in Texas

In the 2016 NSS Members Manual, there are 419 NSS members in Texas. Of course, many of them are inactive, but still support the NSS and enjoy going to NSS Conventions, reading the NSS News and the Journal of Cave and Karst Studies, and the comradarie of being a member of

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Library

Great news, Preston! Thanks for all the time and hard work you and many others have contributed for years to make this happen! Logan McNatt Austin On 5/2/2016 7:11 PM, PRESTON FORSYTHE via Texascavers wrote: Over the weekend the NSS Library was

[Texascavers] Bracken Cave Bat Flight viewing dates

This is just an FYI from me for list subscribers. I don't work for BCI. Fran Hutchins, TSA member and Bat Conservation International Director of  Bracken Cave Preserve,  just sent an announcement to BCI members with the schedule of viewing dates for members to see

Re: [Texascavers] value of caves compared to your house

Bill,     Many of us know you enjoy playing the Devil's Advocate, and I am amused that your sign-off quote is "Considering what is done in the name of God, one wonders what is left for the devil." You said "I don't suppose anybody will pay any attention,..."

[Texascavers] Fwd: Special Journal Issue About Drones in Archaeology

Forwarding this message from the Texas Archeological Society. Information that cavers might find useful when using drones. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com The March 2016 open access issue of The SAA Archaeological Record discusses how drones can be used in archaeology and software for

Re: [Texascavers] It is done- a Honey Creek update.

A huge Thank You to everyone involved, with special thanks to Tim and his crew! A massive project accomplished in such a short time, and perfect timing before the rains predicted over the next several days. Thanks for the report Arron. Logan lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 3/8/2016 11:21 AM, A.

Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] NSS Webinar Talk tonight (Wednesday) February 17. Dr. Alexander

On 2/17/2016 11:37 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers wrote: One wonders if the lack of plate tectonic activity on Mars is a limiting factor for finding life on the planet at this time. Diana Yes Diana, I have spent numerous sleepless nights wondering about that. The more we learn, the more

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Boon's books

Thanks for the information, Bill. Mike Boon was a unique and unforgettable character to everyone who knew him, and even to those who just knew about him. For those who didn't, it's worth your time to learn about this legendary caver and personality. Logan On 2/2/2016 3:17 PM, Mixon Bill via

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS web site

That is an amazing accomplishment, Bill, congratulations and thank you. One important statistic you need to add: the estimated amount of time you have devoted to doing all that scanning! You can probably calculate it in months/weeks, or perhaps even years/months.Let us know when you have

Re: [Texascavers] Castleguard Cave movie

Thanks Bill! On 11/13/2015 7:37 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: Sid Perou's movie about Castleguard Cave in the Canadian Rockies is on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lpa7I1SNu0 This was filmed (on actual film; remember that?) in 1973 and for a long time was hard to find,

[Texascavers] Holley Moyes caver archaeologist is one of 15 coolest women in science

http://www.businessinsider.com/coolest-women-in-science-2015-7 Congratulations to Holley! And she would agree that we all know more cavers who could have made this list, too! Logan ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com

[Texascavers] announcement on behalf of Pam Lynn, Austin

For those of you who know Pam Lynn in Austin, she asked me to let you know about this. Her husband H Stevens died at age 65 from a heart attack he suffered on May 8, 2015. The funeral will be Sat May 16, 10:00 a.m. at the Weed-Corley-Fish Funeral Home, 2620 S. Congress Ave, Austin 78704.

Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Rolling Oaks Work Day; another reference for dating old artifacts

Here's another good resource for dating common 20th Century artifacts you'll find in caves that were used as trash dumps, like Niche Cave. http://www.sha.org/index.php/view/page/20thCent_artifacts Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 4/28/2015 9:10 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] Just a note

Thanks Louise. I'm a 5th generation Texan but had not read the newspaper, turned on the TV, or the computer until now. So thanks for the reminder. On 4/21/2015 8:35 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers wrote: Happy Texas Independence Day! ___

Re: [Texascavers] Blair Pittman news

Thanks for passing along the good news, Dwight. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 4/14/2015 1:15 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: Blair Pittman news Long-time Texas Caver From the Terlingua Moon: 4/14/2015 Blair Pittman, who recently suffered a stroke, “is doing pretty darn well,”

Re: [Texascavers] Join Us for Crack and Crevice Entrapment, do you know what to do?

...for anyone who ever goes into small, cracks, holes or crevices... That covers just about every caver at some time in their quest. Texas cavers certainly have to do that quite often. The long-term TSA projects at Colorado Bend State Park and Government Canyon State Natural Area are prime

Re: [Texascavers] books on Chauvet Cave

There are used copies available online from about $60 to much more. New copies start around $260 to $300+. (Based on a quick search) Clottes also wrote The Shamans of Prehistory and The Cave Beneath the Sea (Cosquer Cave). About 10+ years ago, I was very lucky to find several new copies of the

Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden

Thanks Ben, I did not know that. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 3/21/2015 1:33 PM, Ben Hutchins via Texascavers wrote: It's worth noting that Scott pioneered sampling groundwater animals from stream cobbles in Texas. In the state, he did this decades before anyone would try again, and

Re: [Texascavers] Huge Lava Tubes Could Exist on the Moon

The historic Moonlight Towers in Austin seem appropriate, although they would require substantial modifications. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_tower Pete Lindsley was no doubt joking when he suggested carbide lamps, unless they have developed LED carbide lamps now. Logan McNatt

Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Rolling Oaks Work Day--old bottles

Ellie, TCMA, and everyone else digging in caves with old trash, If you find old bottles, here is the best website to identify how old they are and what they contained: http://www.sha.org/bottle/ The SHA is the Society for Historic Archeology. I recommend you keep all old bottles, because

Re: [Texascavers] off topic: Pi day

Thanks for the alert, Bill. I will try to remember to celebrate the exact moments, but the party won't last long. On 3/13/2015 6:57 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: Tomorrow will be the pi moments of the century, 3/14/15 at 9:26:53 a.m. or p.m. Who's having a p.m. party to celebrate? --

[Texascavers] Ezell's Cave gate finished!

Just called Ron Ralph. They are still at Ezell's Cave, loading up the trucks. They finished the Ezell's Cave gate! They were supposed to start at 8 a.m (DST), so they've had a very long hard day, in the rain. Details to come later from Ron and/or Jim Kennedy, I'm sure. Congratulations are due

[Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR] job opening for climber-biologists at Devil's Tower

Sounds like a rare opportunity. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Forwarded Message Subject:[SWR] job opening for climbers Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:37:25 -0700 From: jasonw...@gmail.com To: swr s...@caver.net Devils Tower is an hour from Jewel Cave -

Re: [Texascavers] Marion Smith book on Saltpeter mining

Contact me if you want a copy of Marion's book, which is only 31 pages, but has little-known historical information on saltpeter mining in Arkansas and Texas. Texas caves discussed are Longhorn Cavern, Bracken Bat Cave, Frio Bat Cave, and Davis Blowout Cave. $5 plus $1 SH Fastest method is to

[Texascavers] website of vertical devices

Dr. Gary Storrick (NSS 12967FE, Michigan) has a website showing every type of vertical device (ascenders, descenders, belay, and miscellaneous) that he has been able to collect. Over 1900 items and constantly increasing. You will recognize many of them commonly used in caving. Many others are

Re: [Texascavers] cave diving at NSS convention

Texas Cavers won't enjoy that unless they have to haul the tanks several miles through the mud. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 2/13/2015 8:20 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: Roubidoux Spring in Waynseville, Missouri, site of this summer's NSS convention, will be open to

Re: [Texascavers] Bat Cave, Florida

flashlight tour of Alachua Bat Cave on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqsbmc1pwWk Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 2/12/2015 12:45 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers wrote: I have been to Alachua Bat Cave, and was also appalled by the disastrous management actions that Sleaze so

[Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

There is a cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman newspaper, Section B, pp 1 and 4, with a photo. The print title is Caves envisioned as learning labs: Two sites would be added to existing one for school programs. The caves are in southwest Austin but names and location are not

[Texascavers] Fwd: NSS HQ work weekends - schedule

Preston Forsythe asked me to forward this. Logan lmcn...@austin.rr.com Things are getting going at the NSS Headquarters again. We have a schedule for the next few months. There may be a few more weekends scheduled in between, but this is what we have for now. Our first projects will be to

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver issue--a positive review

On 1/20/2015 4:45 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers wrote: The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up! My printed copy of The Texas Caver (2014, Vol 63, Issue 4) arrived today, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. An entertaining mix of stories and photos reflect the diversity of

Re: [Texascavers] Going to unsub..

Ted, please send your email address to me. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 1/19/2015 11:16 AM, Ted Samsel via Texascavers wrote: Since I'm in Oregon.. I'm probably going to unsubscribe.. later.. ___ Texascavers mailing list |

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

Paradise Canyon, Oct 15-18 Thanks for asking, Don. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 1/7/2015 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote: Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and

[Texascavers] new definition of karst

Today's Austin American-Statesman newspaper has an article from the San Antonio Express-News about Government Canyon State Natural Area. The author Vianna Davila stated Karsts are limestone caves known to house endangered species. Time to rewrite the textbooks. Logan McNatt

Re: [Texascavers] Where's it from?

Definitely sounds like a helluva job. Makes you wonder what Job 1 is. LowGun Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 11/17/2014 8:49 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote: The Internet makes such questions too easy: Job 28. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Mon, November 17, 2014 9:33 pm,

Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Question of the month

Cave of the Dark Wind lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 11/5/2014 5:49 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: The sketch below is featured in a children's book about some kids on an adventure. It was published in 2007 by Hyperion. Who can be the first to guess the title of the book ?

[Texascavers] tcr video by Dorothy Mladenka

Dorothy Mladenka provided this link to a video she took at TCR with her amazingly tiny video camera (see at end of video). The video is 6:37 long with no sound, but lots of good people shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pgt9PdqoU Here's the link to her 2011 TCR video.

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