tiankengs are really just large collapse
dolines as you point out. Of interest is the fact that the majority of
"tiankeng" features in Mexico do not have river systems at their base.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: dirtdoc
To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas
Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013
Okay . This really sounds like something that could be handled off the
list serve.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Julie Jenkins
To: Julia Germany
Cc: gille ; kmenking ; Texascavers
Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Caving
Hey
Nice report, Kris !
Jerry Atkinson.
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pena
To: texascavers
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:31 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] December CBSP Project Trip Report
Project Dates: December 14 - 15
Volunteers: Kris Peña, Will Quast, Matt Zaldivar, Jeremiah Schoenert
For those that might be interested, here's some history on the discovery and
early history of the cave:
Wonder Cave was discovered in1893 by Mark A. Bevers, a former cowboy and
freight hauler who settled in SanMarcos about 1882. Mr. Bevers was drilling for
water in what is now the parkinglot
Old Faithful's Underground Cavern Discovered
Becky Oskin, OurAmazingPlanet Staff Writer
Date: 12 April 2013 Time: 05:51 PM ET
Old Faithful's underground plumbing looks more like a bagpipe than a flute, a
new study of the Yellowstone National Park geyser finds. A big chamber sits
about
Of potential interest to both historians, geologists, and cavers with a
soft-spot for paleontology.
Jerry.
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Preserve created to help warbler, Camp Bullis
By John W. Gonzalez, jgonza...@express-news.net
Updated 02:02 a.m., Thursday, November 17, 2011
An intricate land deal has been completed that will protect the military
missions of Camp Bullis as well as habitat of the endangered golden-cheeked
New park land purchase will bridge Hamilton Pool, Reimers Ranch Park
by SHELTON GREEN / KVUE News
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
AUSTIN -- A $20 million transaction approved by Travis County Commissioners to
buy privat
you all decided to get rid of it, -- not much
thought. just convenience
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-Original Message-
From: Julia Germany
To: Mark.Alman ; Texascavers
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Well, that clears up
Been there, done that, read your history, girl.
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-Original Message-
From: Denise P
To: jerryatkin ; Mark Alman ;
TexasCavers
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 8:25 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
It was not cancelled for convenience, it just did
thought it
was sorta like counting hairs on a hog to point out the obvious at the time
since it was possible that you were still going to be chairmen next year. Now
that Arburn has inherited the issue and Holsinger brought forward the question,
it's a whole new ball game.
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aware and
anticipate these types of problems and either ask questions, or give guidance
where appropriate. It may be cruel, but volunteers and officers should realize
that the members of the organization typically adhere to the old saying: "I am
not impressed by what you did not do.&qu
anycancellations. Please
contact me if youhave any questions.
Hope to see you out there!
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Emergency Services Called After Kim Kardashian Becomes Wedged In Ailwee Caves
THE honeymoon of rap mogul Kanye West and reality TV star Kim Kardashian got
off to a sticky start this morning, after emergency services were called to the
Ailwee Caves in County Clare to help free the new bride afte
consider a fund
to pay for reproduction costs?
Jerry.
Here is the inventory of the collection:
Tom Meador Collection
Briscoe Center for American History, University of Texas at Austin
Box G1: 6 metal slidecases of 35 mm color slides; 5 labeled “caves”, ca.
1960s- 1970s, at least 2000-3000 slides
Fire Restrictions Set for Fort Stanton-Snowy River Cave
National Conservation Area
Roswell, NM – The BLM Pecos District Office is implementing fire restrictions
in the Fort Stanton-Snowy River Cave National Conservation Area (NCA) and
around the community of Lincoln, New Mexico. Due to conti
I'd be glad to take that nasty old rope off your hands, Carl. :>)
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To: Carl Pagano ; president
Cc: swr
Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: [SWR] rope age
I see that the example in “Myth #15” is incorr
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The Global Lithologic Map shows the area as "mixed sedimentary rocks.&quo
Preserve created to help warbler, Camp Bullis
By John W. Gonzalez, jgonza...@express-news.net
Updated 02:02 a.m., Thursday, November 17, 2011
An intricate land deal has been completed that will protect the military
missions of Camp Bullis as well as habitat of the endangered golden-cheeked
New park land purchase will bridge Hamilton Pool, Reimers Ranch Park
by SHELTON GREEN / KVUE News
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
AUSTIN -- A $20 million transaction approved by Travis County Commissioners to
buy privat
you all decided to get rid of it, -- not much
thought. just convenience
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Julia Germany
To: Mark.Alman ; Texascavers
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Well, that clears up
Been there, done that, read your history, girl.
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-Original Message-
From: Denise P
To: jerryatkin ; Mark Alman ;
TexasCavers
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 8:25 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
It was not cancelled for convenience, it just did
thought it
was sorta like counting hairs on a hog to point out the obvious at the time
since it was possible that you were still going to be chairmen next year. Now
that Arburn has inherited the issue and Holsinger brought forward the question,
it's a whole new ball game.
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-Ori
Old Faithful's Underground Cavern Discovered
Becky Oskin, OurAmazingPlanet Staff Writer
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: 12 April 2013 Time: 05:51 PM ET
Old Faithful's underground plumbing looks more like a bagpipe than a flute, a
new study of the Yellowstone National Park g
Of potential interest to both historians, geologists, and cavers with a
soft-spot for paleontology.
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Updated 02:02 a.m., Thursday, November 17, 2011
An intricate land deal has been completed that will protect the military
missions of Camp Bullis as well as habitat of the endangered golden-cheeked
New park land purchase will bridge Hamilton Pool, Reimers Ranch Park
by SHELTON GREEN / KVUE News
Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
Updated yesterday at 11:31 AM
AUSTIN -- A $20 million transaction approved by Travis County Commissioners to
buy privat
you all decided to get rid of it, -- not much
thought. just convenience
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Julia Germany
To: Mark.Alman ; Texascavers
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Well, that clears up
Been there, done that, read your history, girl.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Denise P
To: jerryatkin ; Mark Alman ;
TexasCavers
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 8:25 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
It was not cancelled for convenience, it just did
thought it
was sorta like counting hairs on a hog to point out the obvious at the time
since it was possible that you were still going to be chairmen next year. Now
that Arburn has inherited the issue and Holsinger brought forward the question,
it's a whole new ball game.
Jerry.
-Ori
Brothers drop lawsuit against city, say dam will go
In property-rights dispute, both sides staked environmental high ground.
By Marty Toohey
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Published: 7:37 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 16, 2010
Three brothers who live west of Austin have agreed to re
Nature Conservancy, Hays County, WVWA partner to protect Jacob’s Well
2010-12-22 / Outdoors
Cherokeean Herald
December 20, 2010—AUSTIN, TX—The Nature Conservancy of Texas, the Hays County
Commissioners Court and the Wimberley Valley Watershed Association (WVWA)
announced today the purchase of
Fossils of Oldest domesticated dog discovered
David Brown
People in North America were breeding—and eating—domestic dogs as early as
9,400 years ago, according to new analysis of a bone fragment discovered in a
Texas cave. Scientists were able to identify the bone—about the size of an
adul
I think that would be a great idea, Ron !
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ralph
To: 'Mark Alman' ; texascavers
Sent: Wed, Nov 3, 2010 8:48 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fw: Speaker for Capital Area Master Naturalist Needed
I could give the Master Naturalists a sho
Free diver smashes cave world record
A free diver set a new world record yesterday by swimming for 150 metres
(492ft) through a cave system without using any breathing apparatus.
Carlos Coste, 34, had to cover 75 metres for a new record, but the Venezuelan
swam double that in two minutes and 30
Old Faithful's Underground Cavern Discovered
Becky Oskin, OurAmazingPlanet Staff Writer
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: 12 April 2013 Time: 05:51 PM ET
Old Faithful's underground plumbing looks more like a bagpipe than a flute, a
new study of the Yellowstone National Park g
Of potential interest to both historians, geologists, and cavers with a
soft-spot for paleontology.
Jerry.
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Narusawa Hyoketsu (Ice Cave), a 70-foot-deep ice cave formed by lava from Mt.
Fuji on the edge of Japan's "Suicide Forest."
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: David
To: texascavers
Sent: Wed, Mar 8, 2017 10:12 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month
As most of you know by now, 6counties in north Texas were recently confirmed
positive for the presence of Pd(Pseudogymnoascus destructans), the fungus that
is the base cause of WNS. 30states, including the recent inclusion of Minnesota
and Nebraska, are nowconfirmed positive for the presence of
FYI, please forward to your grottos and membership accordingly. Federal agency
permitting details will be forthcoming in the next week or so I am told.
Jerry Atkinson.
-Original Message-
From: Goodbar, James
To: blandevoid ; Jerry Atkinson ;
Weaver, Eric ; avp
Cc: Marikay
http://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/family-killed-during-visit-to-cave-in-centraleast-mexico/1029634
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Excellent issue of the Texas Caver ! Many thanks to all involved. If possible,
could someone list the editors and helpers for this issue ?
Thanks again, everyone !
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-Original Message-
From: Robert B
To: Texascavers
Sent: Fri, May 5, 2017 6:16 pm
days I'm afraid.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Joe Ranzau
To: Cavers Texas
Sent: Sat, Feb 3, 2018 7:56 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Just an observation ?
David has just as much right as the next caver to pontificate on your
replacement, how they will fill your enormous
Bracken Cave Bats Here Earlier, Likely Due to Climate Change, Study Shows
https://therivardreport.com/bracken-cave-bats-here-earlier-likely-due-to-climate-change-study-shows/
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Austin’s cave frontier gets slowly uncovered
https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2018/05/austins-cave-frontier-gets-slowly-uncovered/
Interesting article.
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CascadeCaverns receives prestigious state award
http://www.boernestar.com/news/article_e0b64f6a-5d3f-11e8-b5b5-a3252658a0f1.html
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panoramic photos.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/williamson-county/new-3d-map-of-cambria-cavern-released/1336446207
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For those interested, the article that Dwight mentions is in the
January-February 1987 issue of the Southwestern Cavers on p. 12.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
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To: jerryatkin ; Cave Texas
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Halitetites
Research Underway To Help Track Pollutants In The Edwards Aquifer
http://www.tpr.org/post/research-underway-help-track-pollutants-edwards-aquifer
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http://www.tpr.org/post/research-underway-help-track-pollutants-edwards-aquifer
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llow and a great steward of the caves.
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quick questions or finding references for more
in-depth research.
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Congratulations to all for a fine discovery !
Gonna have to make t-shirts for that there "Dream Team." Candidates for the Lew
Bicking Award I'm sure.
Jerry Atkinson.
-Original Message-
From: Galen Falgout
To: texascavers
Sent: Thu, Aug 8, 2019 5:20 pm
Subject: R
Walltopia builds world’s largest artificial cave attraction
https://blooloop.com/news/walltopia-artificial-caves/
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his lifeat my house Saturday April 18th starting at 6:30pm. Anyone interested
please RSVP so we’ll knowhow to contact you with more details as we get closer.
Kurt3/19/2015
See attached photo .
Jerry Atkinson.
-Original Message-
From: William R. Elliott
To: texascavers
Sent: Fri, Oct 11
https://www.click2houston.com/features/2020/07/17/texas-caverns-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-states-private-and-public-caves/
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Did you know the world’s largest bat colony can be found just outside San
Antonio?
Mexican free-tailed bats are important to Texas ecosystem
https://www.ksat.com/news/2020/07/24/did-you-know-the-worlds-largest-bat-colony-can-be-found-just-outside-san-antonio/
Jerry Atkinson
South Texas rancher profile: Annandale Ranch’s place in history includes being
a vacation spot for millions of bats
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2020/07/24/south-texas-rancher-profile-annandale-ranch-s-pla.html
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No, the article mentions Project X-Ray but that took place mainly in Ney and
Bracken caves. Frio Bat Cave was on a potential list of candidate caves.
Jerry.
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To: texascavers@texascavers.com
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers
is is incontrovertible evidence for
their conclusions, but the study is interesting.
Jerry Atkinson.
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Hi Marvin,
Two things :
1.) Did you receive the check I sent to you on behalf of the TSS ?
2.) Do you have any HCSNA database updates to send me or do you want to do that
your self ?
Hope things are going well for you and the family !
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Marvin
y may leave trash and
other mementos of their adventures. These folks have no idea what they're
marching off to.
Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: John Brooks
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Sandia Grotto
Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:3
If anyone is interested, I have several more papers that were written on
different aspects of the root studies.
Jerry Atkinson.
-Original Message-
From: George Veni
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 30, 2021 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves
'Does it go?'
Local cave explorer Bev Shade seeks to find the answer
https://www.durangotelegraph.com/news/top-stories/does-it-go/
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roximately 120 ft long
and 15 ft deep. After construction of the Luby's, there was no evidence of
where the cave might be located. It was thought that the cave was buried under
either the asphalt driveway/parking lot of the cafeteria or the back roadway
leading to the Westpark o
Justin, You might want to check the date on that aerial photo. My best records
indicate Luby's was constructed in late 1978 - 1979.
Jerry.
One seemingly easy to answer question that has turned enigmatic is when exactly
the Luby’s was actually constructed. Deed records show them purch
Texas hiker shares nasty run-in at Enchanted Rock cave this summer
https://www.chron.com/life/wildlife/article/cave-at-Enchanted-Rock-16408331.php
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Devil’s Sinkhole celebrates its golden anniversary October 1-2
https://www.conchovalleyhomepage.com/news/devils-sinkhole-celebrates-its-golden-anniversary-october-1-2/
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1,400-Acre Development Near Hamilton Pool Ignites Push to Protect Salamander
https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2021-10-08/1400-acre-development-near-hamilton-pool-ignites-push-to-protect-salamander/
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Dried Up: Hydrologists dig into Jacob’s Well, prepare for explosive Hill
Country growth
https://www.kxan.com/texas-water/dried-up-hydrologists-dig-into-jacobs-well-prepare-for-explosive-hill-country-growth/
Jerry Atkinson.
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If you are really worried take your state registration with you they will also
accept that now.
Jerry
- Original Message -
From: wwildch...@aol.com
To: cave...@cavetex.net
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: CaveTex: Car title question at border going to
carbide lamp
and it becomes even better. And for the long trips in cold caves the
generator of a ceiling burner offers a lot of continuous heat when worn
inside of the caving suit.
Jerry
- Original Message -
From: "David Locklear"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:02
Kinda sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, Phil. ;>)
Jerry.
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Sent: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] book review: Fern Cave
Gees, Bill,
If you can't say something nice d
I'm with Marvin. And I think it's pretty low stuff to pick on someone just for
laughs. Might actually hurt someone pretty bad.
Jerry Atkinson.
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From: Marvin Miller via Texascavers
To: texascavers
Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [T
more thanenough volunteers so
I’ll be keeping a backup list in case there are anycancellations. Please
contact me if youhave any questions.
Hope to see you out there!
Jerry Atkinson – Project Coordinator
Texas Speleological Survey
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list. We’ll probably have more than enough volunteers
so I’ll be keeping a backup list in case there are any cancellations. Please
contact me if you have any questions.
Hope to see you out there!
Jerry Atkinson – Project Coordinator
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Terry Plemons, please contact me off-list. Thanks !
Jerry Atkinson
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Devils River State Natural Area trip anouncement -
November
http://www.ibtimes.com/dinosaur-era-footprints-found-angola-cave-include-exceptionally-large-mystery-mammal-1720985
7 November 2014
Nearly 70 distinct footprints from several prehistoric dinosaurs, mammals and a
crocodile were recently unearthed at a diamond cave in Angola, making them the
fi
Underground of Enchantment: Lechuguilla Cave
-- experience the natural wonder of Lechuguilla Cave in 3D
Carlsbad Museum and Art Center, Carlsbad, NM
This excellent photo exhibit will be returning to the Carlsbad Museum and Art
Center beginning on November 22nd. It was on display at the Carlsba
Bill,
If you have some maps that you need scanned for the AMCS, I have a complete set
of TxCvrs that is essentially unbound.
Jerry Atkinson
jerryat...@aol.com
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From: Mixon Bill via Texascavers
To: texascavers
Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 8:04 pm
Subject: Re
searchable bibliography
of Texas caving (TexBib) on its website.
Jerry Atkinson
jerryat...@aol.com
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From: Mixon Bill via Texascavers
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Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 12:43 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers magazine archive
Many thanks to the people at
Austrian cave researchers find skeleton of skier
VIENNA Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:17am EST
VIENNA (Reuters) - Cave researchers in Austria have stumbled across the
skeleton of a skier who apparently fell to his death many decades ago.
Geologist Georg Zagler made the grisly discovery last
Hear, hear ! The world's a more interesting place with characters like
Locklear (=Bockbeer).
Jerry Atkinson.
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From: Charles Loving via Texascavers
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Sent: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Unbecoming conduct
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Any details or obituaries that you know of ?
Jerry,
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From: Bill Steele via Texascavers
To: Cavers Texas
Sent: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 5:16 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mike Boon
I just learned that Mike Boon passed away yesterday.
Bill Steele
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Thanks, Julie !
Jerry.
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From: Julie Jenkins via Texascavers
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Sent: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 6:22 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Jerry Atkinson- Dye trace
Jerry,
June 1,2000
2nd trace June 16,2000
No hits on Northside of River at all
You too ! I confess to smuggling cigarettes into underground camps that were
longer than a couple of days. No need for matches back then with all the
carbide lamps.
Jerry.
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