Re: The Horizon and Circuit of Perception

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam Welcome sir KR

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 10:11, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
> You enhance the standard of my write up,which is the product of my morning
> flash about which I normally am not aware till then,and your enthusiasm to
> raise the standards in general are wonderful.Thank you Sir.
> YM
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:01 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pranam
>>
>> SUN’S ANGLE OF INCIDENCE
>>
>> WHAT DOES SCIENCE SAY?
>>
>> 1  The angle detrmines the quanta of photos; because the area covered
>> is the basis. Sun intensity refers to the amount of incoming solar energy,
>> or radiation, that reaches the Earth’s surface. The angle at which the rays
>> from the sun hit the Earth determines this intensity. The sun’s angle --
>> and hence intensity -- varies significantly depending on a particular
>> spot’s geographic location, the time of year, and the time of day.
>>
>> 2  Angle of Incidence
>>
>> The angle formed by rays of sunlight hitting the Earth is technically
>> known as the angle of incidence. Rays striking the planet’s surface from
>> directly overhead -- that is, at a 90 degree angle measured from the
>> horizon -- are the most intense. At most times and locations, the sun forms
>> an angle with the horizon less than 90 degrees -- that is, usually the sun
>> sits lower in the sky.
>>
>> The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun’s
>> rays spread. This effect reduces the sun’s intensity in any one place. For
>> example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40
>> percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum
>> angle of incidence of 90 degrees.
>>
>> 3  Latitudinal Variation
>>
>> Only locations lying along one line of latitude on the surface of the
>> Earth can receive sunlight at a 90 degree angle on a given day. All other
>> places receive sunlight at lesser intensities. In general, the sun’s rays
>> are the most intense at the equator and the least intense at the poles. On
>> an average yearly basis, areas north of the Arctic Circle receive only
>> about 40 percent as much solar radiation as equatorial regions.
>>
>> Relationship to Seasons
>>
>> Fluctuations in the intensity and duration of solar energy in a
>> particular area determine that area’s seasons. These fluctuations are
>> dictated by the way the Earth is tilted on its axis. With respect to the
>> plane of rotation around the sun, the Earth slants at a 23.5 degree angle,
>> meaning that at certain points during its orbit, the Northern Hemisphere
>> faces the sun moreso than the Southern Hemisphere, and vice versa. For
>> example, at the summer solstice, the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun at
>> maximum tilt, so the sun’s rays strike 23.5 degrees north latitude -- the
>> Tropic of Cancer -- at a 90 degree angle.
>>
>> Whichever hemisphere tilts further toward the sun receives a larger
>> percentage of solar radiation than the opposing hemisphere. The former
>> hemisphere experiences summer at this time, while the latter experiences
>> winter. In the hemisphere experiencing summer, the sun rises higher in the
>> sky and is more intense; its rays strike the ground at a higher angle than
>> in the hemisphere experiencing winter. This explains why the risk of
>> sunburn is greatest in summertime. It also explains why temperatures are
>> warmest in summertime, since the sun delivers heat energy.
>>
>> 4   Time of Day
>>
>> Regardless of latitude or time of year, the sun’s angle reaches closest
>> to 90 degrees -- and is therefore at its most intense -- at the midpoint of
>> the day: noon. At this time, the sun is said to have attained its zenith,
>> or highest point. During daylight saving time, the sun is at its greatest
>> angle and most intense at 1 p.m., due to the manmade one-hour offset from
>> true solar time.
>>
>> 5   All goal directed behavior is performed within the broad context of
>> the perception-action cycle, which is grounded on a basic biological
>> principle: the circular cybernetic flow of cognitive information that links
>> the organism to its environment. In general, the posterior brain areas
>> handle sensory perception such as seeing and hearing, while the more
>> frontal brain regions are in charge of motor skills, planning and
>> decision-making. The front and back of the brain work together, with
>> information flowing between them.
>>
>> 6   Before we make a decision or take action, the prefrontal cortex is
>> involved in considering both the information it is receiving from the back
>> of the brain (perceptions), as well as stored memories or experiences that
>> relate to it. The prefrontal cortex helps make a prediction of what will
>> happen and initiates the appropriate body movement.
>> As the brain perceives the result of the action made by the body, it
>> either reinforces the brain’s existing neural networks of
>> understanding about how the 

Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 08-2022-15

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
Q1   "As usual the question is vague"; Ok Good. Till 1800 AD right from
Rajas Times, we were sleeping only in the open with a gaping window and
doors without grills, and in many places even with the snakes hanging like
Gourds; our elders used to say ,Kathu and Karuppu"hit the person when found
dead because CO2 killed them. Keeping open the door or window with AC ,
spoils the AC as well as increases the consumption; Fan will dry the mouth;
AC will dry out the skin.
Q5 Allotment software of TCS is random selection of odd numbers.
Originally TCS developed only old and ladies preferred for bottom births
which data are available (and not weight). But the Congress made vacant
berths for EQ quota as MPs were travelling suddenly; and the allotment from
where left out of the pendency was done at random as there are no more
VVIPs or VIPs. And where the vacancy existed in 2A also , 3A persons were
also allotted accidentally; and there was no upgradation auto etc. EQ
generally will be filled starting with the lower births only. Hence when
the EQ is blank, old and women may be allotted LB also. Right through 1966
to 2010 I had the right relationship with S Rly where tickets would reach
my home as friends would help, no officialdom; and software GM of TCS was
my friend who is living happily after retirement today. After 2010 my
journey through the Railway stopped and we travel by flights only.
Q6Oxygen level meters can show what is atmospheric. Low oxygen may not
kill all; lack of oxygen depends on the health of the person and the heart.
Kindly watch a beautiful movie in Amazon OTT "13 lives" really happened in
Thailand few years back; the oxygen level was <16 and yet survived 13
youths football team  for 14 days; then oxygen level was increased; 5000
international and national people without any expectations fight to redeem
those who survived for 18 days. My army friend lt-colonel waited after the
rescue, for half a day without oxygen mask (fell down) at 22000 feet of
Himalaya when he was 38 .
Q9 The LJE effect is described -as not depletion of oxygen- but
increase of CO2.It is supposed to have occured in NORTH CHINA, SLOVAKIA
NORTH AND RHODESIA S.A.  Many caves had that effect.  The skeleton fossils
contained large volumes of co2 hence the conclusion but they never had
millions of fossils. Dinosaurus extinctions did not include humans?.   Many
earthquakes, Dwaraka etcf etc  (ariyalur train accident) had mass
destruction; LJE has the least backup.
Q10   KR  IRS 15822


On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 09:53, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Re Q 5, I read sometime back, that the algoritham in the Rly reservation
> system is designed to allot seats based on even distribution of weight,
> load  and other factors, for a safe journey.
>
> May be at the time you booked, the allotment was done based on the load at
> that time. It may have changed subsequently. Sometimes, when I booked the
> berths for myself and my wife, we have been allotted berths at different
> places, in the same coach. I guess this may be the reason.
>
> I am not knowledgeable on this subject but am writing this based on what I
> read.
> Knowledgeable folks can correct or add.
>
> Thanks
> N Sekar
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 5:38 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123
>  wrote:
>
> *CULTURAL QA 08-2022-15*
>
> *BEING  A COMPILATION THERE MAY  BE ERRORS*
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Our India is celebrating 75th independence day today. This year the
> speciality is we all have hoisted already National flag in our premises on
> 13th itself.
>
> Wish all a happy joyful independence day.  Most of us will be before TV
> watching independence day celebrations  in  country capital  New Delhi
> and in our state capitals
>
> Gopalakrishnan 15-08-2022.
>
> Q1 Is it safe to sleep with an open window and a fan?
>
> A1 Gopala Krishnan, Former Assistant General Manager 1996-2004 at
> Department of Telecom (1966–2004)Just now
>
> As usual the question is vague. Is it in a home, flat or farm house?
> Whether the window has grill frame or rods? Has it a perfect insect screen?
>
> *If it is in a home it is quite safe if window has net screen inside* and
> it is closed to open the window panes and sleep with fan.
>
> *If it is flat it is a must grill fitting is there*. Some with somnambulism
> may walk through a window and fall down from flat to ground.
>
> *If it is in a farm house 90% it is not safe. Snakes and similar beings
> may get in if the net screen is not there.*
>
> Before net screens became popular, people kept the premises so tidy,
> snakes etc. would never come near windows.
>
> Today circumstance if one sleep in a room with windows it is most
> preferable to have a net screen if window panes are opened 

Re: The Horizon and Circuit of Perception

[Markendeya Yeddanapudi]

Sir,
You enhance the standard of my write up,which is the product of my morning
flash about which I normally am not aware till then,and your enthusiasm to
raise the standards in general are wonderful.Thank you Sir.
YM

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:01 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pranam
>
> SUN’S ANGLE OF INCIDENCE
>
> WHAT DOES SCIENCE SAY?
>
> 1  The angle detrmines the quanta of photos; because the area covered
> is the basis. Sun intensity refers to the amount of incoming solar energy,
> or radiation, that reaches the Earth’s surface. The angle at which the rays
> from the sun hit the Earth determines this intensity. The sun’s angle --
> and hence intensity -- varies significantly depending on a particular
> spot’s geographic location, the time of year, and the time of day.
>
> 2  Angle of Incidence
>
> The angle formed by rays of sunlight hitting the Earth is technically
> known as the angle of incidence. Rays striking the planet’s surface from
> directly overhead -- that is, at a 90 degree angle measured from the
> horizon -- are the most intense. At most times and locations, the sun forms
> an angle with the horizon less than 90 degrees -- that is, usually the sun
> sits lower in the sky.
>
> The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun’s
> rays spread. This effect reduces the sun’s intensity in any one place. For
> example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40
> percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum
> angle of incidence of 90 degrees.
>
> 3  Latitudinal Variation
>
> Only locations lying along one line of latitude on the surface of the
> Earth can receive sunlight at a 90 degree angle on a given day. All other
> places receive sunlight at lesser intensities. In general, the sun’s rays
> are the most intense at the equator and the least intense at the poles. On
> an average yearly basis, areas north of the Arctic Circle receive only
> about 40 percent as much solar radiation as equatorial regions.
>
> Relationship to Seasons
>
> Fluctuations in the intensity and duration of solar energy in a particular
> area determine that area’s seasons. These fluctuations are dictated by the
> way the Earth is tilted on its axis. With respect to the plane of rotation
> around the sun, the Earth slants at a 23.5 degree angle, meaning that at
> certain points during its orbit, the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun
> moreso than the Southern Hemisphere, and vice versa. For example, at the
> summer solstice, the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun at maximum tilt, so
> the sun’s rays strike 23.5 degrees north latitude -- the Tropic of Cancer
> -- at a 90 degree angle.
>
> Whichever hemisphere tilts further toward the sun receives a larger
> percentage of solar radiation than the opposing hemisphere. The former
> hemisphere experiences summer at this time, while the latter experiences
> winter. In the hemisphere experiencing summer, the sun rises higher in the
> sky and is more intense; its rays strike the ground at a higher angle than
> in the hemisphere experiencing winter. This explains why the risk of
> sunburn is greatest in summertime. It also explains why temperatures are
> warmest in summertime, since the sun delivers heat energy.
>
> 4   Time of Day
>
> Regardless of latitude or time of year, the sun’s angle reaches closest to
> 90 degrees -- and is therefore at its most intense -- at the midpoint of
> the day: noon. At this time, the sun is said to have attained its zenith,
> or highest point. During daylight saving time, the sun is at its greatest
> angle and most intense at 1 p.m., due to the manmade one-hour offset from
> true solar time.
>
> 5   All goal directed behavior is performed within the broad context of
> the perception-action cycle, which is grounded on a basic biological
> principle: the circular cybernetic flow of cognitive information that links
> the organism to its environment. In general, the posterior brain areas
> handle sensory perception such as seeing and hearing, while the more
> frontal brain regions are in charge of motor skills, planning and
> decision-making. The front and back of the brain work together, with
> information flowing between them.
>
> 6   Before we make a decision or take action, the prefrontal cortex is
> involved in considering both the information it is receiving from the back
> of the brain (perceptions), as well as stored memories or experiences that
> relate to it. The prefrontal cortex helps make a prediction of what will
> happen and initiates the appropriate body movement.
> As the brain perceives the result of the action made by the body, it
> either reinforces the brain’s existing neural networks of
> understanding about how the world works, or begins to create new ones.The
> perception-action cycle is this continuous flow of information and action
> between the brain and the world around it. On and on it goes: sense,
> predict, act, 

Re: The Horizon and Circuit of Perception

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam

SUN’S ANGLE OF INCIDENCE

WHAT DOES SCIENCE SAY?

1  The angle detrmines the quanta of photos; because the area covered
is the basis. Sun intensity refers to the amount of incoming solar energy,
or radiation, that reaches the Earth’s surface. The angle at which the rays
from the sun hit the Earth determines this intensity. The sun’s angle --
and hence intensity -- varies significantly depending on a particular
spot’s geographic location, the time of year, and the time of day.

2  Angle of Incidence

The angle formed by rays of sunlight hitting the Earth is technically known
as the angle of incidence. Rays striking the planet’s surface from directly
overhead -- that is, at a 90 degree angle measured from the horizon -- are
the most intense. At most times and locations, the sun forms an angle with
the horizon less than 90 degrees -- that is, usually the sun sits lower in
the sky.

The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun’s
rays spread. This effect reduces the sun’s intensity in any one place. For
example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40
percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum
angle of incidence of 90 degrees.

3  Latitudinal Variation

Only locations lying along one line of latitude on the surface of the Earth
can receive sunlight at a 90 degree angle on a given day. All other places
receive sunlight at lesser intensities. In general, the sun’s rays are the
most intense at the equator and the least intense at the poles. On an
average yearly basis, areas north of the Arctic Circle receive only about
40 percent as much solar radiation as equatorial regions.

Relationship to Seasons

Fluctuations in the intensity and duration of solar energy in a particular
area determine that area’s seasons. These fluctuations are dictated by the
way the Earth is tilted on its axis. With respect to the plane of rotation
around the sun, the Earth slants at a 23.5 degree angle, meaning that at
certain points during its orbit, the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun
moreso than the Southern Hemisphere, and vice versa. For example, at the
summer solstice, the Northern Hemisphere faces the sun at maximum tilt, so
the sun’s rays strike 23.5 degrees north latitude -- the Tropic of Cancer
-- at a 90 degree angle.

Whichever hemisphere tilts further toward the sun receives a larger
percentage of solar radiation than the opposing hemisphere. The former
hemisphere experiences summer at this time, while the latter experiences
winter. In the hemisphere experiencing summer, the sun rises higher in the
sky and is more intense; its rays strike the ground at a higher angle than
in the hemisphere experiencing winter. This explains why the risk of
sunburn is greatest in summertime. It also explains why temperatures are
warmest in summertime, since the sun delivers heat energy.

4   Time of Day

Regardless of latitude or time of year, the sun’s angle reaches closest to
90 degrees -- and is therefore at its most intense -- at the midpoint of
the day: noon. At this time, the sun is said to have attained its zenith,
or highest point. During daylight saving time, the sun is at its greatest
angle and most intense at 1 p.m., due to the manmade one-hour offset from
true solar time.

5   All goal directed behavior is performed within the broad context of the
perception-action cycle, which is grounded on a basic biological principle:
the circular cybernetic flow of cognitive information that links the
organism to its environment. In general, the posterior brain areas handle
sensory perception such as seeing and hearing, while the more frontal brain
regions are in charge of motor skills, planning and decision-making. The
front and back of the brain work together, with information flowing between
them.

6   Before we make a decision or take action, the prefrontal cortex is
involved in considering both the information it is receiving from the back
of the brain (perceptions), as well as stored memories or experiences that
relate to it. The prefrontal cortex helps make a prediction of what will
happen and initiates the appropriate body movement.
As the brain perceives the result of the action made by the body, it either
reinforces the brain’s existing neural networks of understanding about how
the world works, or begins to create new ones.The perception-action cycle
is this continuous flow of information and action between the brain and the
world around it. On and on it goes: sense, predict, act, adjust. Sense,
predict, act, adjust. ( If my memory is correct Jonathan has written a
book).

7 WHAT DOES VEDAS SAY?

  According to Vedic cosmology, the sun is considered the entry point
of space. The sun and the planets are similar to a rider and his horses.
The sun is the superior one- the rider who controls the horses with the
reigns. Here, the reigns represent the rays of the sun.

The rider controls his horses and limits their movements. Just like 

Re: [iyer123] Greetings

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
The day all of us say we are Indians well that is the day of patriotism. We
reciprocate the wishes . Pl listen to recorded PM's speech today at 7 30 AM
onwards at teh Rampart KR IRS 15822

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 08:33, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Happy Independence Day to all my fellow Indians.
>
> Bharat Mata ki Jai
>
> N Sekar
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CULTURAL QA 08-2022-15

['gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty]

CULTURAL QA 08-2022-15

BEING  A COMPILATIONTHERE MAY  BE ERRORS

Dearfriends,

OurIndia is celebrating 75th independence day today. This year thespeciality is 
we all have hoisted already National flag in our premises on 13thitself.

Wishall a happy joyful independence day. Most of us will be before TV watching 
independence day celebrations  in country capital  New Delhi and inour state 
capitals

Gopalakrishnan15-08-2022. 

Q1 Is it safe to sleep with an open windowand a fan?

A1 Gopala Krishnan, Former AssistantGeneral Manager 1996-2004 at 
Department of Telecom (1966–2004)Just now

As usual thequestion is vague. Is it in a home, flat or farm house? Whether the 
window hasgrill frame or rods? Has it a perfect insect screen?

If it is in a home it is quite safe if window has netscreen inside and it is 
closed to open the windowpanes and sleep with fan.

If it is flat it is a must grill fitting is there.Some with somnambulism may 
walk through a windowand fall down from flat to ground.

If it is in a farm house 90% it is notsafe. Snakes and similar beings may get 
in if the net screen is not there.

Before net screensbecame popular, people kept the premises so tidy, snakes etc. 
would never comenear windows.

Today circumstanceif one sleep in a room with windows it is most preferable to 
have a net screenif window panes are opened for safe calm sleep.

Not only with afan, even with airconditioner it is safe to keep open partly a 
window pane( insect screen fittedinside)

Q2 How can we drink alcohol withoutkilling all the bacteria that is 
important to our body? The human body has abacteria ratio of 10:1 when compared 
to cells, how can we have alcohol runningin our body without killing those 
bacteria?

A2 Ken Saladin, Former professor of histology(microscopic anatomy)Aug 4

The 10:1ratio has been debunked. It was based on faultyassumptions by the 
person who originally made that hasty estimate. It’s closer to 1:1.

The alcohol wedrink never gets anywhere close to those bacteria anyway. These 
bacteria are mostly in thecolon, and ingested alcohol gets quickly absorbed by 
the small intestine beforeit gets that far.

My note- Ihave added this QA  not to encourage drinking alchohol,but about it’s 
 effect. Many military,air force and navy retired people have their quota and 
may be having the habit.

Q3 What is the fastest train inSwitzerland?

A3 Nicholas Stone, Lifelong  interest in trains. Jul 27

Because of thecountry’s topography and geography, Switzerland has few high 
speed lines or high speedtrains. Trains seldom travel faster than 150 km/h.

Trains inSwitzerland are slower than in neighbouring Germany, Italy and France. 
ButSwitzerland offers excellent regular timetabling with smart 
connections,reliable services and easy to master departure sequences.

Across Switzerland, there are several sections of highspeed railway where 
trains can travel at 200 km/h. In special circumstancesalong these lines, 
trains are authorised to travel at 230 km/h.The high speed lines are the 57 km 
Gotthard Base tunnel; the 45 kmMattstetten–Rothrist new line and 35 km 
Lötschberg Base Tunnel.

Q4 How often should glass windows anddoors be cleaned?

A4 Gopala Krishnan, Former AssistantGeneral Manager 1996-2004 at 
Department of Telecom (1966–2004)Just now

This also depends on the location of the house and windowflow and amount of 
dust in the atmosphere.

In India one canobserve dust accumulated in the bottom areas more comparing to 
top area. If onetouch with bare finger, dust can be felt.  If frequently 
cleaned dust accumulation willbe not be annoying.

Considering labourcost if one cannot clean himself, weekly cleaning is a most 
preferable. Not only windows anddoors, all furniture items like sofa, dining 
table, TV table, dressing table,writing table and chairs, all are to be cleaned 
at least once a week .Almirahs, interior fittings in kitchen and rooms, pooja 
room etc are also to becleaned well once a week. If shifted to once afortnight, 
accumulation will be more.

Q5 Did anybody get the "Consider forauto upgradation" privilege while 
travelling in Indian Railways? How doesit work?

A5 Ashwani Kumar,Assistant at Reserve Bankof India (RBI) 
(2019–present)Wed

Once I booked awaiting ticket of AC 3 Tier to travel from Lucknow to New Delhi 
14–15 daysbefore my travel. I was little bit apprehensive that waiting may not 
be clearedand I would have to travel without a confirm seat. The days went past 
and thewaiting was not cleared. I was anxious that how will I travel with so 
muchluggage without a seat. On the day of journey the waiting was still not 
clearedand I reached station in hope to be lucky enough to get a seat at least 
inSleeper class.

When I reachedstation the chart was prepared and pasted on the notice board at 
the station. Isearched my name in the AC tier 3 passengers list but i couldn't 
find it. Ihopelessly tried 

The Horizon and Circuit of Perception

[Markendeya Yeddanapudi]

-- 
*Mar**The Horizon and Circuit of Perception*



Immediately around the body of an organism, there is the arena or layer of
perception, which we may call the organism’s body in the invisible
spectrum.  Into and from every pore on the skin of an organism, there is
inhalation of messages and exhalation of responses. The Horizon actively
participates, as the gaseous part of the anatomy, which continuously
changes, merges into the troposphere while new gaseous part takes over.
This Horizon Body continuously changes triggering interaction within the
organism, creating hormonal communication and feeding the Brain with
information. The troposphere thus continuously participates in the living
of the organism in the creation of emotions. Actually it joins the organism
to the Biosphere as a whole, making the Biosphere one single organism.

When this vital emotional connection to the troposphere is cut, the
organism inevitably will suffer from emotional damage. It is in fact the
maiming of the vital part of its anatomy, which is marketed as higher
standard of living, paving the way to AC rooms, Buildings and also
skyscrapers that block the very dynamics of the Horizon Body. Thanks to
this damage, we no longer experience rapture and our Brains motivate mainly
tensions. The very basic experience of every organism as an emotional
complement is lost, and we go on, sciencing and sciencing and simply not
bothering about the loss of rapturing.

Today the very meaning of longevity has changed into the longevity of the
organism as a separate and disconnected phenomenon and not as a part and
participant in the Biosphere, thanks to our Brain-centrism.

If you make your mind blank and close your eyes, you enable your Horizon
body to join you to the troposphere, and you become a Sage. But you need
free, thick and lush nature.

Let us contemplate on the structure of the anatomy of the Biosphere as one
single organism.

The angle of the Sun’s ray determines the number of photons that impact on
the particular area. It determines the heat or the Thermodynamic situation.
The Thermodynamics of the place creates the particular soil bacteria from
the parent earth matter. And the soil bacteria create the particular flora
and fauna, creating the particular ecology of the Biosphere of the area.

Together they create the Horizon body of every organism, the body that
continuously pulsates, symbiotically with nature.

Go to a place where nature is not yet murdered by economics, where the
forest is luxurious; make your mind blank after closing your eyes. You
allow your Horizon body to function actively and you enter the arena of the
reality, the reality of rapture.

The immediate benefit you get is reduction of tension and freedom from the
benign or tormenting neurosis.

YM

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Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 08-2022-14

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
I used to say Gossip because even after year people will write; no one can
shall desire so; but it is a human frailty; at the same time as Siddas said
we have to care for our body; the verse goes like "OON VALARTHENE, UYIR
VALARTENE". ( i groomed the body and the life ). And you could have changed
the question each time to 79, 80 90 and 100 and so on. KR IRS  14822

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 18:15, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr Sekar,
>
> Yes. I include the same question with different answers  for different
> views. If the answers I could see on the day, I would have included all
> answers under the same QA.
>
> If one has commitments still, on any issue people desire to live till it
> is accomplished, in-spite of all his ailments, financial burden or any
> other issue.
>
> In my opinion, if one has commitments he would desire to live till it is
> accomplished, the almighty will permit him to live
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 14 August, 2022 at 03:13:20 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks.
> Re: Q9, this is this third time I see you forwarding that particular Q
> and hence my response.
>
> 1. Whether we want to live after 60 or not is really not in our hands as
> Fate or Destiny play their part, at least for those who believe in those.
> It is said in our Tradition that the day one is born, his expiry date is
> also determined - predetermined.
>
> But then that said, I also read this famous quote "People who swear by
> Fate and say everything is predetermined and nothing is in our hands,
> always look at both sides of the street before they cross the street" -
> Take this with a pinch of salt or as a Tongue is cheek kind of statement.
> This is just to say we need to be careful and not tempt Fate with our
> irresponsible behaviour.
>
> 2.  Whatever period we are destined to live, let us live it with a healthy
> lifestyle - what we inherited by genes we can't help, but we need not add
> to that and pass it further down.
>
> 3. Many of us find time to travel, go on a pilgrimage etc. after we
> retire, as during our working life we may hardly find time for our passions
> as we have so many other pressing priorities. Hopefully, by 60 or so, we
> have fulfilled our duties and responsibilities, and are free to pursue our
> passion. I undertook the Chardham trip after I turned 60. But after that
> trip I also realized how necessary it is to stay healthy and fit, as the
> trip takes its toll.
>
> 4. Healthy Body, Healthy Mind and Financial security help you spend your
> life after 60 pleasantly. It helps if you have wide interests like music,
> spiritual practices, books, movies, friends and of course e mail groups
> like this one.
>
> 5. See how Coimbatore and B'lore are getting crowded with comfortable /
> luxurious Senior Citizens Homes as people after 60 begin their lives afresh.
>
> Nothing wrong to aspire to live after 60 - my prayer is that I should go
> before I become a burden, not being able to look after myself. But that's
> in His Hands and I want to make His Task easier, by leading as healthy a
> life as possible, given our desires and  likes.
>
> Easwaro Rakshathu.
>
> N Sekar
>
>
> On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 07:08:08 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
> iyer123  wrote:
>
>
> *CULTURAL QA 08-2022-14*
>
> *BEING  A COMPILATION THERE MAY  BE ERRORS*
>
> Q1 Why are Swiss trains so punctual?
>
> A1 Nicholas Stone, Lifelong interest in trains. Updated Fri
>
> *A remarkable feature of Swiss trains are their punctuality.*
>
> This is particularly remarkable because of the several track gauges, four
> national languages, alpine geography and multiple operators. *Indeed,
> there are over 20 railway companies.*
>
> Swiss trains are punctual because of the national efforts required to
> ensure punctuality. There is a joke that if the 08:00 train departure
> leaves when the station clock shows 08:05, then either the train is not
> Swiss or the station clock is not Swiss.
>
> My own experience of Swiss travel is extraordinary reliability, allowing
> complex cross country journeys with tight connections. Trains arriving at
> many stations are greeted with a fleet of connecting buses for onward road
> travel. The entire Swiss travel experience is often perfect, usually
> accompanied by magnificent scenery.
>
> Much money is spent on punctuality with track maintenance, reliable
> rolling stock and modern train control systems. This punctuality comes at a
> price. In 2014, Swiss federal and cantonal government rail. subsidies were
> €5.8 billion - more than the UK with a population eights that of
> Switzerland.
>
> National management and discipline ensures punctuality. There is one
> national website provided by SBB, owned by the Swiss Confederation. This
> allows through ticketing, through journey planning, cross platform
> interchanges and smart timetabling. It’s as if train punctuality and
> 

Re: [iyer123] Fwd - sensible utterings, after the demise if Rakesh Jhunjhunwala who died at 62

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
Rakesh was as bold as his father in my dept { C I T } and he had many
friends in politics. His investment once touched the bottom, and recovered
back. And he has a lot of friends who use to ask for clues in shares and
investments.  KR IRS 14822

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 18:18, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Mr Sekar
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 14 August, 2022 at 02:49:37 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes Sri. G K, I understand. And it shows their good side as they
> sympathize and empathize, than pass negative comments and ridicule.
>
> There is a saying attributed to the Dalai Lama (and various others,
> depending on who and what you read) and it says:
>
> " It's a pity people chase wealth sacrificing their health, but the same
> people later on spend their wealth to restore their health".
>
> Swami Vivekananda famously told a spiritual aspirant " Go, Play football",
> and explained that to have a healthy mind, first you have to have a healthy
> body and then only you can concentrate and meditate. *This needs to be
> understood in the right context as emphasizing the need to be healthy and
> not twisted to mean that the Swami decried spiritual practices.*
>
> Your mail prompted me to write these. Thanks.
>
> N Sekar
>
>
> On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 12:07:57 PM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
> iyer123  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Sekar,
>
> Very true. Health is wealth is old saying. Health is good part of wealth
> is the present correction.  I have heard the old Tamil saying- Yarellam
> koodae azhuthalum ava than petthukkanam. Many can sympathize with the
> pregnant woman and her pains. However she only has to suffer labor pain for
> childbirth.
>
> I have seen many have sympathize look when I take insulin many times a day
> and *occasionally bleeding since the needle touch nerve.  *The actual
> difficulty of remembering to have the injection and type of injection and
> quantity than the little pain due to old needle.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 14 August, 2022 at 12:52:34 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
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tit bits

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
1 https://youtu.be/GgO_mPh4olU
Sivasr Skanda prasad what a voice?. Venkatachala nilayam
2  https://youtu.be/9RBbx7L1XcU   same girl Pandari Bhajan
3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1knYmTYFsN-YN2GfxIBVHjLFDxsjceJSm/view?usp=sharing
4
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KR IRS 14822

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of human bondage

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam

OF HUMAN BONDAGE

   Today I saw a TV show called NEEYA NAANA IN VIJAY TV TAMIL. Do we
have such low mentaliy girls wedded and begot young kids?. The in laws I do
pity; and the parents who gave birth to such daughters can commit suicide
though sounds too harsh. Some time back in some context I wrote how in the
USA a small drop of honey to the lips of a born kid is prevented by
unfathomed and unfounded science today. All the children born in the USA
 and grownup  with such severity do not appear to have better health than
one here in India. The mortality due to covid is only there more ,compared
to the other part of the earth. Yet the western system of child bearing and
developing them in such a manner of preventing them from infection etc -is
a laughing stock as far as I am concerned. The latest science in Google on
medicine has rendered many in the population, especially the young
graduated, educated but foolish mothers, better educated than the system of
life in itself. BODY CAN TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. BY OVERREACTING, ONE CAN KILL
ONESELF ;HARAKIRI.
 The immune system itself developed by the oddity available around our
nature and relations only. By restraining the child so fastidious, the
foolish young mother brings into this earth seven generations of wrong
childrens to adults , which is again wonder-struck, by the future young
ones to beget children. At the same time sanity shall prevail in enforcing
proper precautions but the tight belt worn by such irritable young mothers,
preventing even the fathers of the children from handling the bathing
restrictions etc, blows me into a wild laughter fire.  SOUCHAM cleanliness
is in our system; but enforcement to the extent of forcing the thatha Patti
and husband to follow ,advocated,but irrelevant, restrictions, imposed by
such ignorants, tickles me to laugh at. If she were to say “it is her
child” then from where did she bring it out?; from outside unknown male
members?; stupidity thy name is……..OK. When the child cries over and she is
in the kitchen near all chemical fire-brands, would she run to the room ,
or to the bathroom to take a shower and then handle the child?. There was a
report that today men do not get briders so they run about north India for
brides. Better let men remain unmarried instead of dancing this performance
with the stupid wife.KR IRS 14822

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Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 08-2022-14

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam

Live past 60

   Wishes are in the air like a dream in a bubble. Wish and will to survive
is dependent on many factors. The AC machines in another question, were
described in many conditions as consuming more electricity. It is the same
consumption in one place in the body. Someone  quoted Jhun jhun wala died
at 62. Theer one can see the regressions that caused the end. All this
thinking pushes one to conceive that WE CAN DO WHAT WE WISH TO DO. Free
will is the will power to live. So one becomes what one wishes to become a
vedic expression too. But it does not happen. Free will shows that one is
highly confident. Then there are bundled options of survival as one wishes
right?.   Had Jhunjhunwalla did all the exercises and well behaved would he
have crossed 62?. Then Adi Shankara was below-par died at 32?. Vivekanandar
was so bad he had to?. Abhimanyu was not healthier to have died?. IF WISHES
WERE HORSES ………

  Sathamanam Bhavathi is 100 years; astrology has one cycle as 120
years. However the last breadth is uncertain as could be seen in any
literature of the earth leave alone vedas. Tirukkural says”  *நெருநல்*
*உளனொருவன்* *இன்றில்லை* *என்னும்*  *பெருமை* *உடைத்துஇவ்* *வுலகு* naerunal
ulanoruvan inrillai yennum paerumai utaiththuiv vulaku This world possesses
the greatness that one who yesterday was is not today.உறங்கு வதுபோலும்
சாக்காடு உறங்கி விழிப்பது போலும் பிறப்பு (339) என்ற குறள் சொல்கிறது. Death
is like going to sleep and birth is as if waking up from that sleep.
samprápte sannihite kále na hi na hi rakshati   ukrunkarane.(1)  O fool!
when the appointed time (for departure) comes, the repetition of
grammatical rules will not, indeed, save you. yāvatpavano nivasati
dehe tāvatpṛcchati kuśalaṁ gehe |gatavati vāyau dehāpāye  bhāryā bibhyati
tasminkāye || 6As long as there is breath in the body, so long people in
the household ask about one's welfare. Once the breath leaves, on the
destruction of the body, the dependents dread that very same body. mā kuru
dhana jana yauvana garvaṁ  harati nimeṣātkālaḥ sarvam |
māyāmayamidamakhilaṁ hitvā  brahmapadaṁ tvaṁ praviśa viditvā || 11 Do not
be proud of wealth, kindred, and youth; Time takes away all these in a
moment. Leaving aside this entire (world) which is of the nature of an
illusion, and knowing the state of Brahman, enter into it.
 Thus  living even beyond one day is not in anyone’s hand even if HE is
ADISHANKARA. KARMA is predetermined. Karma cannot be defeated by human
strength. Markandeya life is only 16 years; but the brahmam can grant the
extension of life provided Markandeyan can hold fast to the shivalinga
engrossed with the Lord. OOZHIR PERUVALI YAVULA SAYS Tiruvalluvar; what is
stronger than the fate the karma?. HE also says ,OOZHAIYUM UTPAKKAM KANBAR
ONE WHO MAKES THE REAL EFFORT; (ONE CAN EVEN CHANGE THE FATE IF……) UTPAKKAM
MEANS INSIDE; AND WHO IS INSIDE?; god NEAR THE HEART UPANISHAD SAYS. One
who holds to GOD may alter the fate of the karma. But for that all our
wishes cannot be the horses. KR IRS 14822

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 08:38, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> *CULTURAL QA 08-2022-14*
>
> *BEING  A COMPILATION THERE MAY  BE ERRORS*
>
> Q1 Why are Swiss trains so punctual?
>
> A1 Nicholas Stone, Lifelong interest in trains. Updated Fri
>
> *A remarkable feature of Swiss trains are their punctuality.*
>
> This is particularly remarkable because of the several track gauges, four
> national languages, alpine geography and multiple operators. *Indeed,
> there are over 20 railway companies.*
>
> Swiss trains are punctual because of the national efforts required to
> ensure punctuality. There is a joke that if the 08:00 train departure
> leaves when the station clock shows 08:05, then either the train is not
> Swiss or the station clock is not Swiss.
>
> My own experience of Swiss travel is extraordinary reliability, allowing
> complex cross country journeys with tight connections. Trains arriving at
> many stations are greeted with a fleet of connecting buses for onward road
> travel. The entire Swiss travel experience is often perfect, usually
> accompanied by magnificent scenery.
>
> Much money is spent on punctuality with track maintenance, reliable
> rolling stock and modern train control systems. This punctuality comes at a
> price. In 2014, Swiss federal and cantonal government rail. subsidies were
> €5.8 billion - more than the UK with a population eights that of
> Switzerland.
>
> National management and discipline ensures punctuality. There is one
> national website provided by SBB, owned by the Swiss Confederation. This
> allows through ticketing, through journey planning, cross platform
> interchanges and smart timetabling. It’s as if train punctuality and
> passenger convenience is a national priority.
>
> I thoroughly recommend a travelling across Switzerland by train (and where
> no train, then by bus on tram).
>
> *My note- In south India  I have observed the* 

Re: [iyer123] Fwd - sensible utterings, after the demise if Rakesh Jhunjhunwala who died at 62

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Kan kettapin surya namaskaram kR

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Re: Destroying Nature's Destiny

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Very interesting! Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burn’d,
At home his footsteps he hath turn’d,
>From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentrated all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust, from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonour’d, and unsung. ( Sir Walter scott)
2   bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate vasudevah sarvam iti sa
mahatma su-durlabhah  (B G 7 19)

After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders
unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a
great soul is very rare.   Leaving the Prakriti is difficult. Reaching the
Purusha is one in one million.

jneyam yat tat pravaksyami yaj jnatvamrtam asnute anadi mat-param brahma   na
sat tan nasad ucyate  ( B G 13  13)

I shall now explain the knowable, knowing which you will taste the eternal.
This is beginningless, and it is subordinate to Me. It is called Brahman,
the spirit, and it lies beyond the cause and effect of this material world.
Tasting the eternal is not visionary byr seeinbg is thinking or feelings.
KR IRS  14822

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 06:57, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> --
> *Mar**Destroying Nature’s Destiny*
>
>
>
> Technology has become the vice of Humanity, which is completely destroying
> nature. Every machine harms nature. Nature intended the human as an
> ecological link, to perform its work in the march of nature to Nature’s
> Destiny.
>
> Every organism breathes, and the breathing becomes emotions, and the
> organisms interact emotionally creating continuously the emotional
> symbiosis. The march of evolution is the march of emotional symbiosis among
> the organisms of the Biosphere. The planet earth lives as Gaia, in the
> dynamic emotional symbiosis.
>
> Technology has become the vice, the fatal habit in the day today life of
> the humans, where every action today harms nature. The total infatuation
> with technology, the total takeover of the functions of the limbs of the
> human by machines, to perform the functions of the limbs, is destroying the
> emotional foundation of not only the humans, but also of the Biosphere.
> When the limbs function, the internal communication system, the hormonal
> system functions and the human exhales smell messages into nature which the
> other organisms inhale and feed their perceptions and they in turn exhale
> responses by smells. Smells trigger hormones automatically. Now technology
> has made the very hormonal communication dysfunctional.
>
> The ultimate frozen organ inflicted on us by technology, is the removal of
> breathing, smelling and sensing from perception. We have become so jaded
> that we treat the complete disconnection of our emotions to every other
> organism of the Biosphere, with not merely indifference but with a stupid
> sense of achievement.
>
> We cannot breathe the factory fumes. So we cannot sense by smelling, or we
> suspend breathing, and instead of sensing we have become insensitive, and
> participate in the disastrous celebration of the destruction of nature as
> economic development.
>
> There is no school, college or University in the world today, which is not
> taken over completely by technology. Not one institution revives perception
> on the basis of breathing, smelling and sensing. Every student is turned
> out into a Basmasura who destroys.
>
> Not one emotion can be really quantified and we still try to live
> emotionally, of course with emotions changing into anxieties. You cannot
> really tell your happiness or unhappiness or any other emotion in miles, or
> tons or liters. But mathematical reductionism rules education and
> technology and the technology molded economic life.
>
> Every word, phrase, clause, sentence, chapter, book, in every language can
> be changed into emotions, but not one numeral can be changed into an
> emotion.
>
> Just write this small sentence ‘I love you’, using only numerals without
> words.
>
> Breathing needs urgent rehabilitation.
>
> YM
>

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Re: [iyer123] UPAKARMA

['gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty]

 Thank you very much for reading the posting and responding with GOOD 
wordsGopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 14 August, 2022 at 11:04:31 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Good KR IRS 14822
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 21:06, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
 wrote:


UPAKARMA 

Dear friends,

This is a nostalgic writing about some past upakarmaperformed by me. Nothing 
serious other than nostalgic memories. I was writingit in parts for three days 
and today only I could complete. 

Gopalakrishnan 13-8-2022. 

1. Period tillcollege days over (till 1964) after upanayanam

It was practice to perform all functions related toupakarma in samooha matam on 
those days in my home town. The local sasthrikalwould come with his hand 
written book and spectacles early morning by about 8AM to conduct functions. My 
home samooha matam is on the western side ofAchhankovil River. 

1A. Haircut 

It was a must all Brahmacharis to have hair cut in themorning. The local barber 
would  come,some- times  with his son for assistance ,and  after haircut we had 
to take bath inthe river, come home, perform prathasandhya, and reach samooha 
matam with newsingle dhoti, to perform Kamokarshi japam. 

1B. Kamokarshijapam

It was a must to apply holy ash wetted with water asthree lines in forehead, 
arms, chests etc. On other days most of us used toapply the sandal paste 
prasadam given from Krishna temple. Since there was someirregularity to all to 
come together periappa used to conduct in three batchessankalpam and kamokarshi 
Japam. All dharbham, pavithrams and poonool were boughtby Periappa. 

My mother ensured copper and brass thambalam were wellcleaned, pancha pathram 
and uddirini were arranged all in the family. Rarely myeldest brother was there 
on upakarma day. My eldest brother was employed evenwhen I was about 10 years. 

On those days elders used 2nd cloth only towrap around waist, though rarely it 
was used as upper cloth while  coming/ returning after upakarma.  

1C. Kamokarshijapam

Those few residing at a distance   used to come only for upakarma, 
performingsandhya and kamokarshi japam at home. I recollect one such person was 
myteacher in middle school, Late Mr. Ramaswamy iyer; He would come with his 
sons.He was very close to my late father, probably not by working in same 
school,but both married from Kidangoor (near Kottayam) area. 

Incidentally, by correspondence initiated by ourmember Sri APS Mani, I could 
understand Mr. Ramaswamy was his eldest co-brother.  

The local sasthrikal was not fully pledged satirical,often he referred book. 
Even now I do not know his name; he was kochumadathilperiappa/Anna for all. He 
was always serious person; I have not seen a smile onhis face. A strict person, 
fearsome for even elder boys. 

Most elders came with Double dhoti and Uthareeyam,having haircut and shave at 
least within a week. Most important- Keeping mustache my Brahmins wasunknown 
among iyers on those days. 

After kamokarshi japam, all departed for tiffin, andinstructed to assemble by 
11. 50 AM, for upakarma. We had to carry additional dressfor bath in the river. 
Bathing in river was compulsory. 

My late father, permanent president of samooham, tillhe became too aged, would 
ring the big bell at 11. 50 AM. It is ensured all assembledto start Maha 
sankalpam. We had about 33 Brahmin families in home, and ensured all 
arrived,unless otherwise intimated absence. My elder brother took charge as 
presidentafter him. By the time the number of Brahmin families had reduced to 
mere nine, most settling in other states andcountries.

1DMahasankalpam

Wearing pavithram mahasankalpam was performed. AfterMahasankalpam, pavithram 
was removed and achamanam done. I recollect our sasthrikalwas reciting during 
maha sankalpa

Narmada Sindhu Kaveri

Godavari Namosthuthe. 

As boys we could not control our laugh looking at him,his wife’s name was 
Kaveri.We used to say, purposely he was including Kaveri??!!. 

On this title, in  later time I wrote about rivers in India, somemembers gave 
correction to Mantra, how it has to be recited. 

The Pavithram was  removed and achamanam done. 

1E . Bath inriver

After bath in river with head bath, applying holy ash,wearing new dhoti all 
youngsters performed namaskaram to elders before wearing newYanjopaveetham.  I 
have never seen this practice in Tamilnadu and Kerala in laterperiods. 

1FYanjopaveetha dharanam

Now Periappa will issue Yanjpaveethams. Boys who hadperformed upanayanam were 
given one, married were given two, those who lostfather were given three. I am 
not sure how many where issued to boys who lostfather.

Small naughty boys  were issued one upaveetham. It was called kallapoonool. I 
dorecollect even myself worn such, before my upanayanam.  I have seen this 
practice continued even now. 

Holding the knot of yanjopaveetham at top  with left hand palm, using right 
hand palm  with yanjoopaveetham touching water, it    was worn standing in knee 
deep water. 

Re: [iyer123] My response to a mail received in my personal address

[Rajaram Krishnamurthy]

Pranam
 No comments. I went off and had to come back. Judges are and when I stung
earlier no one thought to reflect but when a judge say it , it adds to
weight. We lose our thought process; independent thought process; we remain
a silent spectators; we shout after the horses bolted; we do not open our
mouth while in service; but we cry a lot after retirement; we join forces
for the postings; we are the mirrors; judges do see the reflections in us.
First let's learn to defend the neighborhood and call a spade a spade. I
don't mean to be a rowdy but roudram is intelligence. Have we ever thought
how Krishna iyer possessed the grit?; he was aan ordy human being; when
things go in right direction has any one thought what nonsense is being
done against Rajaram?; but we remain silent and ignore; so in the judges
level; if we have to change something we shall change to change them. This
we will never do and the USA will keep on killing the Homies and Tuma man.
Let us begin at home. KR IRS 14822

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 11:03, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks Sir.
>
> Our rotten to the core judiciary is not just politicized, it is totally,
> totally, with very few honorable exceptions, corrupted, lead by our CJI who
> has no shame in ridiculing his own country and religion in a foreign soil.
> And instead of doing some serious sole searching, he talks about gagging
> the media lest their shenanigans are exposed. Ands he, of all people, talks
> about obeying only the Constitution conveniently forgetting the SC's
> flagrant transgressions of their limits; probably these fellows have
> conveniently  discarded their Conscience. Utterly shameless creatures.
>
> And there are people in this country who defend them - let them ask what
> their reaction will be if Nupur Sharma was their daughter, Will they take
> the same stand?  Shameless judiciary, shameless masses. As Cho (Tamizh
> writer) famously said " Nobody in this country has any shame" and that was
> about 3 decades back, the rot has only lengthened, broadened and deepened
> since then.
>
> And the less we talk about my State T N the better with the honorable
> exception of Justice Swaminathan. May God Bless their tribe so we can look
> for justice and not jaundiced, prejudiced justice.
>
> N Sekar
>
> Response from a reader:
>
> Last night heard him on a TV debate
> Judiciary too politicised
>
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 10:10 AM, N Sekar  wrote:
>
> It takes courage to call a spade a spade, particularly when you are one of
> that flock, instead or trying to defend the indefensible. True Judge who
> obeys his Conscience. Justice Dhingra, We are Grateful to you.
> N Sekar
> Updated: 13 August, 2022
> ‘Supreme Court showed prejudice in favour of Md Zubair and against Nupur
> Sharma’: Retired Justice SN Dhingra says judges have no knowledge of
> criminal law
>
> The former Delhi high court judge said that if the judges knew criminal
> law, they would have known that the blasphemy case against Nupur Sharma
> does not hold as she was quoting Islamic text decadess
> 13 August, 2022
> OpIndia Staff 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> https://www.opindia.com/2022/08/supreme-court-showed-prejudice-for-zubair-and-against-nupur-sharma-justice-sn-dhingra/>
>
> 
> 120
>
> Justice SN Dhingra, former judge of the Delhi High Court, again criticised
> 
>  the
> Supreme Court of India for its judgments in the Nupur Sharma and Mohammed
> Zubair cases. While the apex court made a U-turn and ordered to merge all
> FIRs against Nupur Sharma and transfer them to Delhi, justice Dhingra
> questioned the court for not taking back its earlier comments blaming