Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Wookey
+++ Wookey [04-12-27 23:59 +]: >> +++ Martin Budaj [04-12-26 13:06 +0100]: > > > I'm getting the hang of this and have drawn up some cave. It went OK > > until > > I got to a complicated section, with an underlying streamway adn > > overlying > > passages. The

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Budaj
Wookey wrote: >> I thin we need a better understanding of what makes a 'pillar'. I thought >> a >> pillar was a closed loop within a passage, but that is not a closed loop >> (a >> passage goes off underneath from the gap - see the scan to get the full >> idea). So when does therion need to be

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Stacho Mudrak
> Yes, there should be a warning that therion couldn't find a join. Therion always joins something - there is no treshold for not joining. If join is not correct, usually scrap distortion is too big. If you will turn on debug mode in layout, you should see those distortions very easily. >>

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Stacho Mudrak
Wookey wrote: > That example (scrap bmb2_s3) has a streamway with sandbanks. Having got the > large water area to work, I find that some of the sandbanks are sandy, but > some are covered in water. What determines when an area follows the outer > wall, or the sandbank border? IS the only way to

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Stacho Mudrak
> This appears to be due to "! Paths 4 and 3 don't intersect." > But I have 5 aras in this scrap - how on earth do I work out which one is at > fault? The area 'show' button doesn't seem to work - is that a clue? ??? It should work, I will have a look at it. In any case, we should add source

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Budaj
Wookey wrote: >> But So far as I can tell I need to open it in another editor in >> order >> to edit the names of scraps. (as you say - calling them _sn is a >> good idea.) You may edit scrap names directly in the map editor -- select the line with the scrap name in the 'File commands' menu and

Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Wookey
+++ Stacho Mudrak [04-12-28 08:44 +0100]: >>> >Yes, there should be a warning that therion couldn't find a join. > >> >> Therion always joins something - there is no treshold for not joining. >> If join is not correct, usually scrap distortion is too big. If you will >> turn on debug mode in

[therion] Re: Help - my cave is inside-out

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Budaj
> >It would work, but areas (the pattern) wouldn't join smoothly :(( There >> is >> > >unfortunately no better solution now. >> At the scrap joins, you should try to avoid any symbols. If there are some, usually -clip off helps (if you do not need to clip them by scrap

Importing surveys with no data

2004-12-28 Thread Wookey
We have a number of pre-1990 surveys in mulu for which all the centreline data has been lost but we still have the drawn up surveys. We have regenerated centreline data by inventing survey stations and legs and working out XYZ coordinates for them (very laboriously)2, but now I am putting these