[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-12-02 Thread Evolena
However if autosave is OFF by default, you still cannot loose that much because the wiki informs you about unsaved changes. Again I think we need other users' opinion on this. And by users I mean non-developer users :-) Misclick the back button of the browser, and you will loose that

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-12-02 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Le mardi 2 décembre 2014 15:36:33 UTC+1, Evolena a écrit : What I would like is: - click the save button saves on the current file - autosave saves on a backup file I didn't think before, but I agree with your proposal, it's a good approach to alwayse have backup and don't want to save

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-12-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, December 1, 2014 2:16:48 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: ... besides the option that I wish TiddlyWiki.com also used... to have the url updated with the currently viewed tiddler. There have been many confused users, when Jeremy did activate the permaview option at TW dot com. So

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-12-01 Thread Branimir Braykov
@Birthe That is quite a reasonable thought. I tend to agree. On Monday, December 1, 2014 2:48:02 AM UTC+2, Birthe C wrote: Anyone having used TiddlyWiki for some time will know how to set autosave on or off as they please. Autosave default on for a new wiki, what will we loose? Download a

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-12-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, December 1, 2014 12:28:37 AM UTC+1, Branimir Braykov wrote: However if autosave is OFF by default, you still cannot loose that much because the wiki informs you about unsaved changes. Again I think we need other users' opinion on this. And by users I mean non-developer users :-)

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-11-30 Thread PMario
On Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:41:15 PM UTC+1, Branimir Braykov wrote: I think that the default Autosave option should be Do not save changes automatically simply because it is safer. We should also get other opinions on this. Funny. I always thought, saving changes is safer if I don't

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer
I always thought, saving changes is safer if I don't want to loose information. Not always. Without a reliable backup mechanism liek LessBackupsPlugin was it might just not be as you might override your working document with one that is broken... thanks to some plugin experiments, etc.

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-11-30 Thread Branimir Braykov
Mario, You are an expert, and you know what you are doing, so it is common for you to want autosave ON. This just saves you an extra click. However most (novice) users are fighting with widgets, filters, lists, etc. and it takes trial and error until things work. Breaking functionality is

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-11-30 Thread Birthe C
Anyone having used TiddlyWiki for some time will know how to set autosave on or off as they please. Autosave default on for a new wiki, what will we loose? Download a new one. A new user having downloaded his or her very first tiddlywiki wil not know about this. If autosave is off there is a

[tw] Re: [TW5] Default AutoSave to be OFF

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer
I think it's a good excercise and first look at the ControlPanel to turn it off for a new TiddlyWiki. There are a few things I do in the ControlPanel anyways, like Title, Subtitle, TiddlySpot, etc so changing that saving behavior is just one of those... besides the option that I wish