date:20180604

I think you're asking for a link that will take you UP the TOC tag-tree 
structure.

The only way to do this is if the child tiddler has only one tag (or there 
is a way to exclude tags). If a tiddler has more than one tag, it could 
have multiple "parents".

This macro code makes a link to a parent:

\define parentlink() 
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]limit[1]]"><$link>Parent
\end

(Invoke with <> )

If all your TOC tags started with a prefix (say T_) then tiddlers could 
have more than one tag as long as only 1 tag had the prefix. Like:

\define parentlink() 
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]prefix[T_]limit[1]]"><$link>Parent<
/$link>
\end

Sorry if this is not the problem you meant.

-- Mark

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:54:47 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
> tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
> specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
> with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
> within the context of the 'parent'.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Clayton
>
>

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[tw5] Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

2018-06-04 Thread Clayton Northrup

Hi!

I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
within the context of the 'parent'.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
Clayton

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[tw5] Re: How to reference the parent (containing) tiddler?

Are you trying to make a template? $(variable)$ usually only works inside a 
macro, so I'm surprised if it works at all.

Anyway, my approach is to use <$macrocall> to invoke the macro. So you 
might try:

<$macrocall $name="toc-selective-expandable" tag=<> 
sort="sort[created]" />

You can use <> to pass values inside of widgets, but not inside 
the chevron <> notation. Or, at least that's how it seems to me 
after banging my head against the wall a few times.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:36:12 PM UTC-7, Luca Dorigo wrote:
>
> For now I have something like
>
> <>
>
> This usually kind-of-works, but it actually displays a toc for the *current 
> *tiddler, not the tiddler in which the snippet is contained.
>
> How can I change that?
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[tw5] How to reference the parent (containing) tiddler?

2018-06-04 Thread Luca Dorigo

For now I have something like

<>

This usually kind-of-works, but it actually displays a toc for the *current 
*tiddler, not the tiddler in which the snippet is contained.

How can I change that?

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

2018-06-04 Thread TonyM

David,

I assume you have returned then. I will email the few things I captured in 
your absence.

Tony

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:51:57 AM UTC+10, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
>> application not an edition not a plugin.
>> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
>> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>>
>> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>>
>> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
>> answer to question in this forum.
>> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, Tobias, 
>> Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
>> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>>
>> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I 
>> will later upload this to Github in the hope
>> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
>> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>>
>>
>> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>>  - effects
>>  - shortcut keys
>>  - export to pdf
>>
>> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>>
>> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
>> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
>> for them.
>> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

2018-06-04 Thread TonyM

BTC,

Just a little constructive feedback.

I would love a method of creating siblings without selecting the parent. In 
fact I would personally value  creating siblings rather than 
children with a right arrow creating children. Enter for siblings is in 
fact more intuitive because enter in a text editor is new line, in a spread 
sheet next line (cell).

I wonder it we could selectively display and hide an info panel of the 
keyboard shortcuts on the outline view?

I am not sure if I will go to the effort to publish the viewer I am 
developing since it is quite complex although I expect to publish related 
technology, and the design principals I have "discovered".
These include

   - Custom Toolbars
   - The viewer tiddler model (below)
   - Custom view Template(s)

But the main design principal is using an outliner that displays the 
tiddler in a view to the right of the selected tiddler (Like TWOutlier) 
allows the designer to introduce their own headers, footers,  almost as if 
they were using another TiddlyWiki altogether but all in a single tiddler 
(wrapper), such that closing the viewer one finds themself back in the core 
tiddlywiki with the standard (or modified) view/edit templates and 
toolbars. In some ways I could see solutions being distributed this way 
rather than taking over the whole wiki with customisations, all the 
customisations take place within the "custom View Tiddler". If these custom 
views are designed correctly, a bit like your 
http://outlineproto.tiddlyspot.com/ 

 Then we can look at the wikis data via more than one "curated" or 
functional view (perspective). Pick the view that suits the current 
workflow or application with confidence you will not "damage" any other  
workflow or application.

Regards
Tony

Goodwork
Thanks
Tony

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 4:16:56 PM UTC+10, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi @Tony 
>  
>
>> Hi Burning Tree,
>>
>> I seems great for brainstorming or rapid capture of structures.
>>
>> How do we create siblings rather than children and is there  way to 
>> outline from an existing tiddler already tagging other tiddlers?
>>
>
> 1st - level siblings are created either by the new-tiddler button or Alt-N 
> (you can change that combo in the ControlPanel). Alt-J creates a new 
> Journal.
>
> Siblings of subtiddlers are created by hitting ENTER when their parent is 
> focused (click inside or navigate to it using TAB or SHIFT-TAB
>
>>
>> I would love to see this somewhat independent so at can be used for any 
>> hierarchical tagged list.   I am in fact building my own outliner that is 
>> more a viewer of the tiddlers in a hierarchy but allowing custom tiddler 
>> footers, headers and features inspired by TWOutlier. I could see using your 
>> solution for the initial brainstorm or new subtrees.
>>
>
> That's cool, I'd like to see your work in the end! Making this independent 
> within tiddlers in the normal view would also be possible. Good idea!
> I like the separate view, too - for focusing on the current task. But I'll 
> make both I think. 
>
>>
>> It seems to me if your tool can be synergistic rather than an alternative 
>> outliner where it is somewhat standalone, all the better, because it could 
>> be used along side other solutions.
>>
>> Outliners seem all the rage in the community of late.
>>
>
> In fact I was inspired by @David Gifford's NoteSlam 
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: How does everyone here feel about Microsoft acquiring GitHub?

2018-06-04 Thread TonyM

David,

In the past I would have being horrified and would be lobbying to branch 
the whole program and build an independent organisation.  Decades ago I was 
struggling to stop large corporates I worked for getting further entwined 
with Microsoft which was inferior to Novel Netware (Network and server) and 
desktops and apps were costing a lot when Linux desktops and apps were 
abundant.  

The fact is Microsoft and IBM before them almost died because of their 
ant-trust, propriety attitudes. Fortunately both ultimately saw the light 
and thus they remain in the market today. 

My specific experience with Microsoft, especially Office 365  in the cloud 
and recent Desktop OS changes suggests they are embracing open, responsive, 
responsible, inclusive solutions because the market now demands it. 

Personally I welcome the possibility of GitHub getting more strength in 
numbers and a bit more user friendly, but I will always maintain my 
sceptical and suspicious stance for any large corporation.

I think TiddlyWiki's use will simply follow that of the industry, unless a 
better alternative became available.

Regards
Tony

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>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
>
> Just curious if and how you think this affects TiddlyWiki's use of GitHub.
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[tw5] Re: How does everyone here feel about Microsoft acquiring GitHub?



On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 1:25:28 PM UTC-7, TheDiveO wrote:
>
> Sorry, but your statement is not only completely wrong, it is even 
> bordering on utter FUD. It is definitely not based on a coarse 
> understanding licensing and the corresponding basic elements of the law 
> making them possible. Microsoft buying GitHub does not own ooen-source 
> software through this purchase. I don't understand where get such an idea 
> from, but I really don't want to know anyway.
>
>
Good thing I didn't say that, then.

I meant the IP for github itself, not for the software stored there. Then 
again, since you brought it up ... does anyone read those Terms of Service 
very closely?

-- Mark 

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[tw5] Re: How does everyone here feel about Microsoft acquiring GitHub?

2018-06-04 Thread TheDiveO

Sorry, but your statement is not completely wrong, it is even bordering on 
utter FUD. It is definitely not based on understanding licensing and the 
corresponding basic elements of the law making them possible. Microsoft 
buying GitHub does not own ooen-source software through this purchase. I 
don't understand where get such an idea from, but I really don't want to 
know anyway.

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:32:29 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It's ironic the home of so much open-source software is now owned by a 
> highly proprietary company.
>
> Time will tell. If we're lucky, MS will just ignore it to death. It's 
> possible they just want the IP to build their own product.
>
> You never know. MS bailed out Apple when they were in danger of 
> bankruptcy. And they support the Python Software Foundation which helps 
> keep Python active.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 9:08:09 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
>>
>> Just curious if and how you think this affects TiddlyWiki's use of GitHub.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

Yes, great book by Baggini. Every page had something interesting to chew on.

For my personal use I used captions because I wanted more control over
formatting within the outline, and the advantage of ordering list items as
disconnected from the visible titles. But I knew that for public
consumption title links in the outline is easier and more straightforward,
so Noteslam is done that way.



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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:29 PM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> @David, looks really good!
>
> I see you are working with the tiddler-captions, I am using the tiddler
> titles directly. Your method has some advantages...
>
> The book seems to be a good reading, too!
>
> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

@David, looks really good!

I see you are working with the tiddler-captions, I am using the tiddler 
titles directly. Your method has some advantages...

The book seems to be a good reading, too!

BTC

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

Thank you

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:21:57 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
>> application not an edition not a plugin.
>> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
>> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>>
>> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>>
>> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
>> answer to question in this forum.
>> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, Tobias, 
>> Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
>> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>>
>> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I 
>> will later upload this to Github in the hope
>> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
>> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>>
>>
>> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>>  - effects
>>  - shortcut keys
>>  - export to pdf
>>
>> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>>
>> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
>> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
>> for them.
>> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How does everyone here feel about Microsoft acquiring GitHub?

It's ironic the home of so much open-source software is now owned by a 
highly proprietary company.

Time will tell. If we're lucky, MS will just ignore it to death. It's 
possible they just want the IP to build their own product.

You never know. MS bailed out Apple when they were in danger of bankruptcy. 
And they support the Python Software Foundation which helps keep Python 
active.

-- Mark

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>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
>
> Just curious if and how you think this affects TiddlyWiki's use of GitHub.
>

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[tw5] How does everyone here feel about Microsoft acquiring GitHub?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

Hi Mohammad

I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
> application not an edition not a plugin.
> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>
> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>
> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
> answer to question in this forum.
> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, Tobias, 
> Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>
> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I will 
> later upload this to Github in the hope
> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>
>
> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>  - effects
>  - shortcut keys
>  - export to pdf
>
> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>
> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
> for them.
> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>
>
> Best regards
> Mohammad
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: To Github Or Not? -- That is a question.

2018-06-04 Thread Lost Admin

I saw the same thing. As I haven't seen any official announcement from 
either GitHub or Microsoft (yet), I am still waiting.

Plus, the MS of today is different from the MS that changed Skype. In my 
opinion, Microsoft's cloud offerings are pretty good when compared to the 
competition (Google and Amazon).

I'm still a bit concerned but taking a wait and see attitude.

On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:59:42 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ut Oh ...
>
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/microsoft--github-acquisition-talks-resume.html
>
> Will we even *want* GH after MicroSoft takes over?
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 8:57:43 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Interesting discussion on GitHub in which ... 
>>
>> ... @Jermolene  commented ...
>>
>>> I think the apparent antipathy towards GitHub in the TiddlyWiki 
>>> community is because only a small proportion of TiddlyWiki users have any 
>>> familiarity with it. The difference between TiddlyWiki and the majority of 
>>> open source projects is that our audience is not just other software 
>>> developers: it's an end-user application and not a library. The barriers to 
>>> using TiddlyWiki are much lower than those for adopting a conventional app, 
>>> so the community is very broad, and broadly non-technical.
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3313 
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

Speaking of Noteslam, I am really getting into using it for taking notes on
books.

Here are my notes for one book.
http://giffmex.org/experiments/the.shrink.and.the.sage.baggini.html

David Gifford
Mexico team leader, Mexico City

*Resonate Global Mission*
*Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
resonateglobalmission.org


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:36 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hi BurningTreeC
>>
>> Wow that is great! It took me a while to catch on, but when I did...!
>>
>
>> Comment: You are going to need more 'step-by-step' instructions for new
>> users, maybe even help the user create a sample outline. I am still not
>> sure I know how to use it properly. I can see this is going to be really
>> great. But without clear instructions, I can't harness the full extent of
>> its greatness yet. FOMO.
>>
>
> Thanks David, this is a child of your NoteSlam :) !
>
>>
>> Comment: there are times where a tiddler in the outline has no arrow next
>> to it, so I have to click it once to see the arrow, then again to open the
>> arrow to reveal the lower layers. If there were a way to avoid that second
>> step that would be good.
>>
>
> Yes, most of the time tiddlers should be automatically in edit mode and
> one should see the edit template. when a tiddler needs to be clicked then
> it's the view-template - which I need to adapt better
>
>>
>> Idea: maybe a save button for each tiddler in outline view since by doing
>> alt-N the user is creating open drafts.
>>
>
> Yeah that's also a point I'm thinking about - tiddlers get automatically
> saved when new subtiddlers get created - but remain draft tiddlers
> I want to refine the saving somehow so that they always get saved without
> extra saving-interaction... don't know if it's a bad idea but it's somehow
> in the spirit of "fast-outlining"
>
>>
>> Idea: a smaller font size will allow more of the outline to be visible on
>> screen.
>>
>
> Alt-Dash makes the font smaller, Alt-Plus makes it bigger. I consider
> making it one/two steps smaller by default
>
>>
>> Again, this is a really great and promising piece of work. I have added
>> it to the toolmap even though it still a prototype, so people who go there
>> can get the link.
>>
>> Thanks, I always appreciate your List being accessible for all and your
> work keeping it up to date!
>
>
> BTC
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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

Hi BurningTreeC

Wow that is great! It took me a while to catch on, but when I did...!

Comment: You are going to need more 'step-by-step' instructions for new 
users, maybe even help the user create a sample outline. I am still not 
sure I know how to use it properly. I can see this is going to be really 
great. But without clear instructions, I can't harness the full extent of 
its greatness yet. FOMO.

Comment: there are times where a tiddler in the outline has no arrow next 
to it, so I have to click it once to see the arrow, then again to open the 
arrow to reveal the lower layers. If there were a way to avoid that second 
step that would be good.

Idea: maybe a save button for each tiddler in outline view since by doing 
alt-N the user is creating open drafts.

Idea: a smaller font size will allow more of the outline to be visible on 
screen.

Again, this is a really great and promising piece of work. I have added it 
to the toolmap even though it still a prototype, so people who go there can 
get the link.

On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 11:45:31 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi community,
>
> here's an outliner storyview I'm working on:
>
> http://outlineproto.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> It's not perfect - I'd just like to hear what you think what's good and 
> what needs to be sorted out
>
>
> all the best, BurningTreeC
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[tw5] Tiddlyshow application

Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
application not an edition not a plugin.
It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki

http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/

[To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]

This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
answer to question in this forum.
Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, Tobias, 
Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
(Sorry if I forgot a name ...)

I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I will 
later upload this to Github in the hope
people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.


I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
 - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
 - effects
 - shortcut keys
 - export to pdf

I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.

Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
for them.
By the way let me know if there is a violation!


Best regards
Mohammad



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Re: [tw5] Re: TW in Public -- "Tomb Of Horrors" (#gaming #campaingn)

2018-06-04 Thread Jan

Hi Barrow,
There are no restictions, I am happy if you use the editor in
roguelike.tiddlyspot.com.

I hope it is explaining itself well enough, otherwise I could help.
(I did not do Tomb of Horror this was a study project for Steve).

Yours Jan

Am 04.06.2018 um 04:11 schrieb barrowgl...@gmail.com:

Jan,

Definitely interested in your work and other rpg based uses of TW.
Any restrictions on use of your work? Time allowing, I will be seeing
how far I can take TW for RPG as well as video game (which also uses
RPG framework) development. TW's json capacity meshes well with
Unreal Engine's json import ability.

Tomb of Horror is the breakthrough for TW in the RPG community-- once
someone starts using something new then others will take notice.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 3:56:43 AM UTC-4, Jan wrote:

Hi,
RPG-fans might be interested in this dungeon-mechanism I did a
year ago...
A proof of concept of concept which comes with a dungeon-editor...
http://roguelike.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

in simple german: I can set multiple variables with the vars widget, but if 
I need one of those variables in another one, I need another vars widget 
within the scope of the one that defines the variable I need for the second 
one.

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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)


>
> Hi,
> You only need 1 !!! vars widget. Have closer look at the docs. 
>

Hi @pmario - that's apparently NOT true

from the docs: "The content of the <$vars> widget is the scope for the 
value assigned to the variable."

testing with one vars widget results in the wikiName variable not defined 
in get-wiki-path 

>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

2018-06-04 Thread PMario

Hi,
You only need 1 !!! vars widget. Have closer look at the docs. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

Wish it happens in 5.1.18

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 11:25:56 AM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @BurningTreeC, This is amazing! Thank you. 
>>
>> I can use this for my Tiddlyshow pluging, both to define shortcut keys 
>> and also for creating the structure of presentation in outline view.
>> Go ahead! I hope Jeremy accept the pull request.
>>
>
> Yeah I hope so - I've asked if they still consider it for merging because 
> I'd like to bring it out to the wilds... 
> It's actually not only the keyboard.js tiddler - there are some changes in 
> other tiddlers, too. So getting only that tiddler would make it work with 
> quirks.
> I consider waiting for either the prerelease version if it gets merged or 
> the plugin if not.
>
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

\define get-wiki-path()
C:\\bag\\PortableApps\\twMU\\pages\\tw\\tw_$(wikiName)$\\index.html
\end
\define actions()
<$action-setfield $tiddler="ma-tiddla" $index="path" 
$value="""$(wikiPath)$"""/>
\end

<$vars wikiName={{tiddlerwithwikiname}}>
<$vars wikiPath=<>>
<$button>
<>
set




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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

@TiddlyTweeter ,

That string where you want to transclude that tiddler text - is it in a BOB 
config file?


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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype


>
> @BurningTreeC, This is amazing! Thank you. 
>
> I can use this for my Tiddlyshow pluging, both to define shortcut keys and 
> also for creating the structure of presentation in outline view.
> Go ahead! I hope Jeremy accept the pull request.
>

Yeah I hope so - I've asked if they still consider it for merging because 
I'd like to bring it out to the wilds... 
It's actually not only the keyboard.js tiddler - there are some changes in 
other tiddlers, too. So getting only that tiddler would make it work with 
quirks.
I consider waiting for either the prerelease version if it gets merged or 
the plugin if not.


BTC

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

@BurningTreeC, This is amazing! Thank you. 

I can use this for my Tiddlyshow pluging, both to define shortcut keys and 
also for creating the structure of presentation in outline view.
Go ahead! I hope Jeremy accept the pull request.

Best 
Mohammad

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 10:40:27 AM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Great piece of work!
>> For me Alt+Right and Alt+Left does not work!
>> (Windows 10 + Chrome 66)
>>
>
> You can change shortcuts in the ControlPanel -> KeyboardShortcuts
>
>  How Alt+O works? Does chat set/unset some stylesheet tiddlers (i.e tagged 
>> a tiddler with $:/tags/Stylesheet) or use a macro to activate the outliner 
>> view?
>>
>
> It's actually a startup module for keyboard shortcuts that recognizes them 
> globally.
> It's all in the tiddler $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
> I made a pull request on github for this but don't know if it gets merged 
> - I'm thinking about making it a plugin. We'll see ...
>  
> You can add your own shortcuts by creating a tiddler 
> $:/config/ShortcutInfo/my-action and a description in its text field
> Another tiddler gets a field "key" with the value: ((my-action)) ... in 
> its text field you can put actions that get executed when you hit the 
> key-combination you define for "my-action" in the KeyboardShortcuts tab 
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype


>
> Hi Burning Tree,
>
> I seems great for brainstorming or rapid capture of structures.
>
> How do we create siblings rather than children and is there  way to 
> outline from an existing tiddler already tagging other tiddlers?
>

1st - level siblings are created either by the new-tiddler button or Alt-N 
(you can change that combo in the ControlPanel). Alt-J creates a new 
Journal.

Siblings of subtiddlers are created by hitting ENTER when their parent is 
focused (click inside or navigate to it using TAB or SHIFT-TAB

>
> I would love to see this somewhat independent so at can be used for any 
> hierarchical tagged list.   I am in fact building my own outliner that is 
> more a viewer of the tiddlers in a hierarchy but allowing custom tiddler 
> footers, headers and features inspired by TWOutlier. I could see using your 
> solution for the initial brainstorm or new subtrees.
>

That's cool, I'd like to see your work in the end! Making this independent 
within tiddlers in the normal view would also be possible. Good idea!
I like the separate view, too - for focusing on the current task. But I'll 
make both I think. 

>
> It seems to me if your tool can be synergistic rather than an alternative 
> outliner where it is somewhat standalone, all the better, because it could 
> be used along side other solutions.
>
> Outliners seem all the rage in the community of late.
>

In fact I was inspired by @David Gifford's NoteSlam 

>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 2:45:31 AM UTC+10, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hi community,
>>
>> here's an outliner storyview I'm working on:
>>
>> http://outlineproto.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> It's not perfect - I'd just like to hear what you think what's good and 
>> what needs to be sorted out
>>
>>
>> all the best, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype