[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tiddly-Chrome Ex (an experimental extension to edit TiddlyWiki files in Chrome)

[Mohammad]

Import does not work!
Where the files are stored?
Is this an open source addon or closed?
Is it free and users have to pay for it in future

Thank you

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tiddly-Chrome Ex (an experimental extension to edit TiddlyWiki files in Chrome)

[Mohammad]

Joshua,

 I started using chrome-ex! That is absolutely great!
The question is how one can use his/her previous TW5 with this extension? 
What is the difference compared to Timimi addon from Riz?

/Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [solved] How do I periodically update specific page elements?

[TonyM]

Jed,

Perhaps the code in the startup modul could process a "refresh queue". Ie 
if tiddler a b and C displayed in the story river refresh at each interval, 
ideally those with a specific tag or field name.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 10:37:10 PM UTC+10, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The biggest problem I see with a macro based solution like this is that it 
> may get called multiple times (and start multiple timers that all do the 
> same thing) because it runs unconditionally when rendered and nothing 
> removes the setInterval.
>>
>>
> I think that a much better solution would be to make a startup module that 
> starts a background daemon that will run a set of action widgets at 
> configurable intervals. It shouldn't be too difficult to make, if I have 
> the time I will try and put something together.
>

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[tw5] Re: [solved] How do I periodically update specific page elements?

[TonyM]

Lost Admin,

This sounds like a useful feature to develop especially for dashboard style 
tiddlywikis that display information sourced externally. 

All I would like to suggest to make this as modular and generic as possible 
with the minimum impact on performance that can be achived.

The reason I say this is in the case of a dash board solution it would be 
very easy to quickly load it with multiple refresh requirements, and the 
simpler and better performance the solution the more you will avoid a 
performance bottle neck.

Please share your eventual solution if possible.
I will assist if I can.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: create a filter list that filters on included text and and excludes a specific tag

[TonyM]

Captain Packers

Whilst it is often nice to combine filter terms into a single filter 
remember it is simple to nest list statements.

<$list filter="select a subset of tiddlers">,!-- no variable means the 
current tiddler is changed for each case-->
   <$list filter="[is[current]searchstring]]">,!-- no variable means the 
current tiddler is changed for each case, [is[current] uses the previous 
levels current tiddler in this filter-->
   The tiddlers meeting both filters criteria <> 
{{!!title}} {{!!caption}} etc...
   


If you do use the variable=name in the list widget all you have to do is 
use " in the filter and <$view widgets to display field 
content.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: How to do I make some specific changes in the UI?

[TonyM]

Talha,

I am sure you found it tricky this first time, but it gets easier as you 
learn about the specifics of TiddlyWiki, however since it is largely based 
on html CSS and other web Standards I think it would be safe to say 
TiddlyWiki is one of the most extensible, customisable and  configurable 
environments you are likely to ever come across. As time passes people put 
together alternative views and share them so it is possible to draw from a 
menu of solutions rather than build your own. One of the things I like 
about tiddlywiki is learning the html and css along with tiddlywiki is I am 
spending time on broad industry standard technology which will be 
applicable time and again. Whilst I value greatly our colleges who build 
powerful addons I can now see that more often that not a wikitext based 
hack with some html or css can achieve almost anything with tiddlywiki's 
existing functions.

When I referred to the new release I was thinking of the feature to simply 
use a tag to introduce items to the sidebar (not tabs) allowing us to avoid 
overwriting the core tiddlers. this will help people building shareable 
solutions but for your own customised uses it is largely irrelevant, now 
you have progressed as you have.

Some small tips

   - Try wrapping a transclusion of an svg in another http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/PSaTSuitnew.html#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FPageTemplate>

 
 
  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar 

 
 
  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/toprightbar 

 
 
  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar 

 
 
  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story 

 
 
  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/alerts 


With  large part of the work done in the  $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story  

 

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 8:54:48 AM UTC+10, talha131 wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone for their input. It indeed is tricky to customize the 
> layout. I am going to pause further customization till I get my hand on the 
> next release which Tony and Mat have mentioned is going to easier to 
> customize. For now I have made following changes to get this result
>
> It’s not perfect and not exactly what I had in mind, but it will do for 
> now.
>
> I created a tiddler, title $:/talha131/Template/Header, and tag 
> $:/tags/AboveStory
>
> 
> {{||$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}}
>
> <$set name="searchTiddler" value="$:/temp/search"> class="tc-search"><$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/search" type="search" 
> tag="input" focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=< "$:/state/popup/search-dropdown">> class="tc-popup-handle"/><$reveal 
> state="$:/temp/search" type="nomatch" text=""><$button 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible"><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/advancedsearch" 
> text={{$:/temp/search}}/><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" 
> text=""/><$action-navigate $to="$:/AdvancedSearch"/>
> {{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}<$button 
> class="tc-btn-invisible"><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" text="" 
> />
> {{$:/core/images/close-button}}<$button popup=< "$:/state/popup/search-dropdown">> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}<$list 
> filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
> variable="listItem"><$set name="resultCount" value="""<$count 
> filter="[!is[system]search{$(searchTiddler)$}]"/>""">
> {{$:/language/Search/Matches}}<$reveal 
> state="$:/temp/search" type="match" text=""><$button to="$:/AdvancedSearch" 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}
> <$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown-wrapper" state="$:/temp/search" 
> type="nomatch" text="">
> <$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown tc-search-drop-down 
> tc-popup-handle" state=<> 
> type="nomatch" text="" default="">
> <$list 
> filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
> emptyMessage=""" class="tc-search-results">{{$:/language/Search/Search/TooShort}}""" 
> variable="listItem">
>
> {{$:/core/ui/SearchResults}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> The {{||$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}} and rest of the code is 
> extracted from the shadow tiddlers. I just wrapped them in  class="talha131-header">. 
>
> I created another tiddler, $:/talha131/CSS/Header with tag 
> 

[tw5] Re: How to do I make some specific changes in the UI?

[talha131]

Thank you everyone for their input. It indeed is tricky to customize the 
layout. I am going to pause further customization till I get my hand on the 
next release which Tony and Mat have mentioned is going to easier to 
customize. For now I have made following changes to get this result

It’s not perfect and not exactly what I had in mind, but it will do for now.

I created a tiddler, title $:/talha131/Template/Header, and tag 
$:/tags/AboveStory


{{||$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}}

<$set name="searchTiddler" value="$:/temp/search"><$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/search" type="search" 
tag="input" focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=<> class="tc-popup-handle"/><$reveal 
state="$:/temp/search" type="nomatch" text=""><$button 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible"><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/advancedsearch" 
text={{$:/temp/search}}/><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" 
text=""/><$action-navigate $to="$:/AdvancedSearch"/>
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}<$button 
class="tc-btn-invisible"><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" text="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}<$button popup=<> class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}<$list 
filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
variable="listItem"><$set name="resultCount" value="""<$count 
filter="[!is[system]search{$(searchTiddler)$}]"/>""">
{{$:/language/Search/Matches}}<$reveal 
state="$:/temp/search" type="match" text=""><$button to="$:/AdvancedSearch" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}
<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown-wrapper" state="$:/temp/search" 
type="nomatch" text="">
<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown tc-search-drop-down 
tc-popup-handle" state=<> 
type="nomatch" text="" default="">
<$list filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
emptyMessage="""{{$:/language/Search/Search/TooShort}}""" 
variable="listItem">

{{$:/core/ui/SearchResults}}






The {{||$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}} and rest of the code is 
extracted from the shadow tiddlers. I just wrapped them in . 

I created another tiddler, $:/talha131/CSS/Header with tag 
$:/tags/Stylesheet.

div.talha131-header { background: #f0851d; border-radius: 5px; 
display: flex; left: 29px; padding: 5px; position: fixed; top: 
5px; z-index: 1200; }  div.talha131-header div.tc-page-controls { 
margin-top: 0px; }  .tc-page-controls svg { fill: white; }

This gave me the result I shared above.
Known issues 

I shouldn’t probably customize the page controls svg fill color using 
.tc-page-controls 
svg. It’d be better to modify them using color palettes, I suppose.

Also, the page controls come on top of the tiddler title. 
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[tw5] Re: Preparing Maarfapad v1.0: Your wish list

[Abraham Samma]

My thoughts exactly. Especially if you could collect basic analytics with 
it to judge uptake of your work (just thinking out loud).

Thanks for your valuable input!

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 9:26:32 PM UTC+3, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Abraham:
>
> My evaluation of how Maarfapad meets my particular needs is proceeding 
> quite well and is certainly encouraging.  As a result, I can already see 
> that a  "... public with a single click ..." option would make this an 
> attractive hosting option I would use.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:23:57 AM UTC-4, Abraham Samma wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guille,
>> ...
>>
>  
>
>> I am infact considering giving users the ability to make hosted wikis 
>> public with a single click, but I it still is a work in progress. We'll 
>> see. Thanks for your inputs.
>>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Display search results

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The left side is known as the story river (I think). It's where the open 
tiddlers appear. You can change what tiddlers appear by modifying the 
$:/StoryList.

Here's an example:

<$list filter="[search{$:/temp/search}limit[6]]">
<$view field="title"/>


<$button>''Open in story river?''

<$action-listops $tiddler="$:/StoryList" 
$filter="[search{$:/temp/search}limit[6]]"/>



I've deliberately limited the number of tiddlers that will open to 6, 
because you could pretty much hang your browser if you put in a request 
that opens all your tiddlers. It uses the contents of the standard search 
field for input.

Be sure to have a backup before trying this.

Good luck
-- Mark

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-7, Stefan Waldherr wrote:
>
> HI Mark, 
>
> thanks for the help. I've found a way to list all tiddlers that satisfy 
> some search criteria and transclude them (piece by piece) into a single 
> tiddler (a bit awkward given that I have to query title, subtitle, etc 
> individually). However, that is not exactly what I was looking for ;-)
>
> I thought of the search function like something that hides everything on 
> the left side of the UI (not sure what that area is called) and only shows 
> tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria. I plan to write tiddlers that 
> contain some text or tags and I want to add a search function to the right 
> that I frequently use with the same parameters.
>
> Best, Stefan. 
>
> Am Montag, 17. September 2018 17:36:51 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>>
>> It would help to see what code you have been looking at. In general, most 
>> <$list> widgets with search just use <> to display the 
>> title. But you can display the contents as well by using the transclude 
>> widget. This works, but be warned that if you use it at tiddlywiki.com 
>> the display of contents will slow your browser down:
>>
>> <$list filter="[search{$:/temp/search}]">
>> <>
>> <$transclude tiddler=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> HTH
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 1:57:09 AM UTC-7, Stefan Waldherr wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> please bear with me if this has been asked before (I'd appreciate a 
>>> link). I like to search all my tiddlers with some criteria (e.g. contains X 
>>> and is tagged Y) and the result is displayed on the left. 
>>> By result I mean only the tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria are 
>>> displayed (full content), all others are hidding. So far I've found 
>>> numerous examples to construct lists, but those lists only contained titles 
>>> but no content. This is probably trivial for an advanced user but not for a 
>>> newbie ;-) 
>>>
>>> Thanks, Stefan 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing Maarfapad v1.0: Your wish list

[HansWobbe]

Abraham:

My evaluation of how Maarfapad meets my particular needs is proceeding 
quite well and is certainly encouraging.  As a result, I can already see 
that a  "... public with a single click ..." option would make this an 
attractive hosting option I would use.

Regards,
Hans


On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:23:57 AM UTC-4, Abraham Samma wrote:
>
> Hi Guille,
> ...
>
 

> I am infact considering giving users the ability to make hosted wikis 
> public with a single click, but I it still is a work in progress. We'll 
> see. Thanks for your inputs.
>

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[tw5] Re: Display search results

[Stefan Waldherr]

HI Mark, 

thanks for the help. I've found a way to list all tiddlers that satisfy 
some search criteria and transclude them (piece by piece) into a single 
tiddler (a bit awkward given that I have to query title, subtitle, etc 
individually). However, that is not exactly what I was looking for ;-)

I thought of the search function like something that hides everything on 
the left side of the UI (not sure what that area is called) and only shows 
tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria. I plan to write tiddlers that 
contain some text or tags and I want to add a search function to the right 
that I frequently use with the same parameters.

Best, Stefan. 

Am Montag, 17. September 2018 17:36:51 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> It would help to see what code you have been looking at. In general, most 
> <$list> widgets with search just use <> to display the 
> title. But you can display the contents as well by using the transclude 
> widget. This works, but be warned that if you use it at tiddlywiki.com 
> the display of contents will slow your browser down:
>
> <$list filter="[search{$:/temp/search}]">
> <>
> <$transclude tiddler=<>/>
> 
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 1:57:09 AM UTC-7, Stefan Waldherr wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> please bear with me if this has been asked before (I'd appreciate a 
>> link). I like to search all my tiddlers with some criteria (e.g. contains X 
>> and is tagged Y) and the result is displayed on the left. 
>> By result I mean only the tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria are 
>> displayed (full content), all others are hidding. So far I've found 
>> numerous examples to construct lists, but those lists only contained titles 
>> but no content. This is probably trivial for an advanced user but not for a 
>> newbie ;-) 
>>
>> Thanks, Stefan 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: create a filter list that filters on included text and and excludes a specific tag

[Diego Mesa]

Hello!

Unless Im misunderstanding, you can just use something like:

[regexp:text[filter]!tag[Learning]]

To search for all tiddlers whose text field contains the string "filter" 
and ARENT tagged with "Learning".

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 10:46:15 AM UTC-5, Captain Packers wrote:
>
> I've been studying the list filter documents on TiddlyWiki.com but I'm 
> still having trouble building a list filter that will show me tiddlers that 
> contain a search string but exclude all those that contain a specific tag.
>
> I'm not sure it was the best idea to combine them, but I have a GTD system 
> and project support documentation all in one tiddlywiki. Now when I search 
> for notes that contain a certain search string, the list often includes 
> tiddlers tagged with @action or @project that have no content. I would like 
> to build a search string that contains, for example, the word "inventory" 
> but excludes the tags @action and perhaps @project.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Captain Packers
>

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[tw5] create a filter list that filters on included text and and excludes a specific tag

[Captain Packers]

I've been studying the list filter documents on TiddlyWiki.com but I'm 
still having trouble building a list filter that will show me tiddlers that 
contain a search string but exclude all those that contain a specific tag.

I'm not sure it was the best idea to combine them, but I have a GTD system 
and project support documentation all in one tiddlywiki. Now when I search 
for notes that contain a certain search string, the list often includes 
tiddlers tagged with @action or @project that have no content. I would like 
to build a search string that contains, for example, the word "inventory" 
but excludes the tags @action and perhaps @project.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Captain Packers

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[tw5] create a filter list that filters on included text and and excludes a specific tag

[Captain Packers]

I've been studying the list filter documents on TiddlyWiki.com but I'm 
still having trouble building a list filter that will show me tiddlers that 
contain a search string but exclude all those that contain a specific tag.

I'm not sure it was the best idea to combine them, but I have a GTD 
system and project support documentation all in one tiddlywiki. Now when I 
search for notes that contain a certain search string, the list often 
includes tiddlers tagged with @action or @project that have no content. I 
would like to build a search string that contains, for example, the word 
"inventory" but excludes the tags @action and perhaps @project.

Thanks in advance for you help.

Captain Packers

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[tw5] Re: Display search results

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It would help to see what code you have been looking at. In general, most 
<$list> widgets with search just use <> to display the 
title. But you can display the contents as well by using the transclude 
widget. This works, but be warned that if you use it at tiddlywiki.com the 
display of contents will slow your browser down:

<$list filter="[search{$:/temp/search}]">
<>
<$transclude tiddler=<>/>


HTH
-- Mark

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 1:57:09 AM UTC-7, Stefan Waldherr wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> please bear with me if this has been asked before (I'd appreciate a link). 
> I like to search all my tiddlers with some criteria (e.g. contains X and is 
> tagged Y) and the result is displayed on the left. 
> By result I mean only the tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria are 
> displayed (full content), all others are hidding. So far I've found 
> numerous examples to construct lists, but those lists only contained titles 
> but no content. This is probably trivial for an advanced user but not for a 
> newbie ;-) 
>
> Thanks, Stefan 
>

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[tw5] Re: How do I periodically update specific page elements?

[Lost Admin]

Hi Mat,

It would certainly be possible to do so but, I agree with what Jed said, if 
the macro gets called multiple times it will create multiple instances of 
the timer event. This is probably not what what you want (and certainly not 
what I want).

The relevant bit of code (from above) that creates the timer event is this 
...

setInterval(function() {
  /* Put your code here, it gets triggered every 30 milliseconds (5 
minutes) */
   }, 30); /* 30 for 5 minutes */

Jed had also suggested (in an earlier thread) that it would probably be 
better to put it into a startup module. I'll be figuring out how to create 
a startup module and moving the logic there. If I have time, I'll figure 
out how to add to the settings so that people can define the trigger period 
and class name.

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 4:47:15 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> @Lost Admin
>
> This is of great interest for a thing I'm working on for TWederation, 
> hopefully soon to be published. As you may know Jed has built a special 
> server (Bob) and also a plugin (TWederBob) that enables a wiki to fetch 
> tiddlers from the remote server. I would like for this fetching (an action 
> widget) to trigger periodically.
>
> Would it be possible to use your creation for that? I.e to trigger an 
> action widget at set time intervals?
>
> <:-)
>

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:37:10 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The biggest problem I see with a macro based solution like this is that it 
> may get called multiple times (and start multiple timers that all do the 
> same thing) because it runs unconditionally when rendered and nothing 
> removes the setInterval.
>>
>>
> I think that a much better solution would be to make a startup module that 
> starts a background daemon that will run a set of action widgets at 
> configurable intervals. It shouldn't be too difficult to make, if I have 
> the time I will try and put something together.
>

I agree. That's my next step. 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob version 1.0.5 Salt Bagels, or I should probably let people know about the plugin library

[@TiddlyTweeter]

>
> I have not found a way to change the name that is used by the executable. 
> That is part of the pkg module I use to make it and not something that I 
> have control.


Thanks Jed for looking. Its not any kind of deal-breaker. If I can figure 
out where to complain about that behaviour in the "pkg" I will.

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[tw5] [TW5] Tiddly-Chrome Ex (an experimental extension to edit TiddlyWiki files in Chrome)

[Joshua Stubbs]

Hi, all. This is a piece of software I wrote to try and get around not 
being able to edit local TiddlyWiki files in Chrome. With this extension, 
you can import your wikis into the extension's storage and edit it there.

It's in Closed Beta at the moment. If you want to be a beta tester, you can 
do so by applying to join this forum: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddly-chrome-ex

If your application is accepted, you'll be able to find a link to the 
Chrome Store page in the welcome message.

*NB: If you join the testing programme, please be willing to provide 
constructive feedback on the forum above by either posting a review or 
engaging in others' discussions.*

For future reference, the official page will 
be https://lordratte.info/tiddlychromeex/

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[tw5] Re: TW Slogans -- Approximation #22

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"Sono quello che sono, per te."

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[tw5] Re: TW Slogans -- Approximation #22

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"Vorteil durch Möglichkeiten."

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[tw5] TW Slogans -- Approximation #22

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"A Tiddler a day helps you work, rest and play."

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[tw5] Re: [solved] How do I periodically update specific page elements?

[Jed Carty]

The biggest problem I see with a macro based solution like this is that it 
may get called multiple times (and start multiple timers that all do the 
same thing) because it runs unconditionally when rendered and nothing 
removes the setInterval.
>
>
I think that a much better solution would be to make a startup module that 
starts a background daemon that will run a set of action widgets at 
configurable intervals. It shouldn't be too difficult to make, if I have 
the time I will try and put something together.

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[tw5] Re: Good way to include snippets of music notation?

[PMario]

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:52:26 PM UTC+2, kash@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Is it possible for me to get this working without any experience with 
> JavaScript?
>

- open this link: A demo is: http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/ 

 
- click the "save" button (circle with the "check" icon)
- rename the downloaded file (optional)
- Start editing. 

That should be all you need. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

[PMario]

Hi, 

*Conclusion:*
>
> So if you want to use the tiddler title, you'll need to use a standard 
> link.  
>

After posting my reply, I could see your "real" problem. ... If you rename 
a tiddler title, alias links still work, but standard links don't. 

Would it make sense to be able to control this on a perlink basis? Where we 
> can use:
>
>- [[alias|?]] - just displays alias
>- [[alias|?t]] - displays contents of title field
>- [[alias|?s]] - displays contents of subtitle field
>- [[alias|?c]] - displays contents of caption field
>
>
IMO This would be a possibility, but somehow I have a bad feeling ... Need 
to think about it. 

-m


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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

[PMario]

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:56:08 PM UTC+2, Diego Mesa wrote:
 

> A problem I now I have is that sometimes I want to TYPE an alias but 
> DISPLAY its full title. 
>

If uni-link plugin is installed the tiddler link behaviour changes as 
follows: 

 - with uni-link there are 4 elements that can be used to render a 
[[standard-link]]
   - *title *... TW default
   - [[new link text|pretty-link]] ... TW default 
   - *caption *... takes precedence over title for the link ... always 
takes precedence in the TOC 
   - *subtitle *... takes precedence over caption ... TOC doesn't know it
   - If caption or subtitle exists [[standard-link|]]  uses the title and 
ignores caption or subtitle
 - see the trailing pipe charactar |

 - The *[[alias-link|?]]* adds a new syntax element. 
   - alias links ignore the caption and subtitle fields and show the alias 
text as rendered text 

To accomplish this with unilink, it seems Id have to add a subtitle field 
> which contains the entire title of the tiddler. But this would then cause 
> all alias links to the tiddler to render with the subtitle. 


That's not true. subtitle is ignored by alias links. caption and subtitle 
are only used for [[pretty-links]]  

*Conclusion:*

So if you want to use the tiddler title, you'll need to use a standard 
link.  

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

[cs8425]

Hi,
It can select different backends without modify/re-compile the code now. :)
I released a compiled versions with flatFile and bbolt backends, no sqlite 
because corss-compile need cgo and more work.

Riz於 2018年9月16日星期日 UTC+8下午7時07分25秒寫道：
>
> Hi CS8425
>
> I see you are taking xarnze's work forward. I was wondering if you could 
> split the backends into different branches, so users can "go get" and 
> switch branches to get choose whichever backend they prefer, instead of 
> messing around in the code. Also, if you reach a stable position, please do 
> release compiled versions. 
>
> sincerely
> Riz
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:47:47 UTC+5:30, cs8425 wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I had fork "widdly" for improving storage backend (flat file based) and 
>> account management.
>> Support updating TW5 based html file by clicking 'Save" button. (Can 
>> modify plugin without update the html file manually.)
>> Currently I'm working on multiple sub TW5 on same server.
>> You can give it a try. :)
>> link: https://github.com/cs8425/widdly
>>
>> @TiddlyTweeter於 2018年9月15日星期六 UTC+8下午6時29分42秒寫道：
>>>
>>> UPDATES...
>>>
>>> There is an interesting highly related thread on Android performance by 
>>> Arlen here: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/tiddlywiki/hnBfXQJi3kY
>>>
>>> Later in the thread he pins down at least part of the problem of slow 
>>> loading under termux/node (i.e. tiddlers as files): 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/hnBfXQJi3kY/CjBygujdBAAJ
>>>
>>> Arlen also made extensive GitHub notes about this issue here: 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3450 They look precise 
>>> & hopeful.
>>>
>>> There is a VERY useful OVERVIEW blog post by Riz of his extensive 
>>> playing Android here: 
>>> https://treppenwitze.netlify.com/posts/options-in-android-platform/
>>>
>>> In particular he points to "widdly" that has had virtually no attention 
>>> in this GG but which performs well. There are at least two "widdly" 
>>> implementations ...
>>>
>>> - (main) https://gitlab.com/opennota/widdly
>>>
>>> - (Hutchinson fork) https://github.com/xarnze/widdly
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] [ger] TiddlyWiki in der c't

[PMario]

Hi Stephan, 

Nice catch!

The link to the addOn should have been: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/file-backups/

-m

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[tw5] Re: Query: Full-face minimalist interface for writers?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Dave

Thanks for your enthusiastic reply! Really what is needed is likely not so 
far away. But I think its well-worth thinking through, particularly the UI, 
that writers who want to "write first" might benefit from a lot.

You may be interested in a related thread about a writer oriented tool for 
"placeholders" BTC commented on & then Mark S. made substantial concrete 
contributions to: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/B0VGpW27MC4/PyWpMucvBAAJ

Best wishes
Josiah

On Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:09:51 UTC+2, Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>
> Like an idiot I was going to just say, "Just change the theme to seamless 
> and hide the sidebar." But that only makes reading TW distraction free.
>
> This is a really revolutionary idea for me. The idea of a distraction free 
> edit mode. Because really, edit mode is ugly and cluttered. And maybe that 
> is one of the reasons I gravitate to Dynalist and Google docs, so I have 
> more space to write without having to scroll. I really never thought about 
> this, and I can't believe I never noticed this.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob version 1.0.5 Salt Bagels, or I should probably let people know about the plugin library

[Jed Carty]

I have not found a way to change the name that is used by the executable. 
That is part of the pkg module I use to make it and not something that I 
have control. Check to see if you have any overwritten shadow tiddlers in 
your wiki, there is a little link symbol on the tab so I suspect that is 
it. It would be called $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ControlPanelTab

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[tw5] Display search results

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi,

please bear with me if this has been asked before (I'd appreciate a link). 
I like to search all my tiddlers with some criteria (e.g. contains X and is 
tagged Y) and the result is displayed on the left. 
By result I mean only the tiddlers that satisfy the search criteria are 
displayed (full content), all others are hidding. So far I've found 
numerous examples to construct lists, but those lists only contained titles 
but no content. This is probably trivial for an advanced user but not for a 
newbie ;-) 

Thanks, Stefan 

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[tw5] Re: [Outreach] Communicating to writers the benefits of TW -- #21 FUTURE TIDDLERS

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

Thanks! 

That is an hugely interesting, working, prototype.

It looks like it will match a bunch of writers' concerns.

I will use it a bit more and get back to you in more detail.

(One small teething point I noticed is that currently on "Publish" all 
items end up as "T"s.)

Best wishes
Josiah

On Sunday, 16 September 2018 00:04:45 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's a start that has most of the mentioned features:
>
> \define linkfullname() $(target)$!!linktype
> \define makelink() 
> <$reveal type="nomatch" state="""$(target)$!!caption""" text="">
> <$set name=title tiddler="""$(target)$""" field="caption">
> <$link to="$(target)$"><>
> 
> 
> <$reveal type="match" state="""$(target)$!!caption""" text="">
> [[$(target)$]]
> 
> \end
> \define maketrans() <$transclude tiddler="""$(target)$""" mode="block"/>
> \define makeedit() {{$(target)$||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate}}
> \define tle(target)
> <$set name="target" value="""$target$""">
> <$reveal type="nomatch" text="yes" state="$:/state/publish">
> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="link">L
> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="trans">T
> <$radio tiddler="""$target$""" field=linktype value="edit">E
> <$reveal type="match" text="link" state=<>>
> <>
> 
> <$reveal type="match" text="trans" state=<>>
> <>
> 
> <$reveal type="match" text="edit" state=<>>
> <>
> 
> 
>
> <$reveal type="match" text="yes" state="$:/state/publish">
> <$transclude tiddler="""$target$""" mode="block"/>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> $:/state/publish
>
> Publish? 
> <$radio tiddler="$:/state/publish" field="text" value="yes">Yes
> <$radio tiddler="$:/state/publish" field="text" value="no">No
>
> 
> <>
>
> "tle" stands for "Transclusion, Link, Edit". The "edit" part is clumsy 
> since it just uses the edit template without mods to make it flow in the 
> current river. But it basically works and might serve as a start. The 
> "link" element defaults to using the caption if available so you can write 
> more descriptive titles without having to break links. It actually creates 
> the tiddlers just by clicking on the corresponding radio button.  It does 
> this because it stores the current tle setting in the target tiddler. You 
> can put more <> macros into sub-tiddlers displayed via transclusion, 
> allowing a kind of sub-structure if you want. Though in general I think I 
> would just let the top tiddler provide the structure.
>
> This requires TW 5.1.15 or higher.
>
> Have fun,
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 10:39:08 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Nice!
>>
>> The next step would be to have a button next to each item that allows you 
>> to switch from link to transclusion. And/or a small link when displayed as 
>> a transclusion so you could quickly edit the text. The current status would 
>> be stored in a flag in the tiddler. The macro might also need a way to 
>> display different text when linking. And also default to using  caption 
>> (ala uni-links) when no  link description is given. There would also be a 
>> master configuration tiddler for final publication that only shows the 
>> transcluded results with no buttons.
>>
>> These ideas are motivated by the need to move quickly between edit/view 
>> modes, and the fact that there is no easy way to change the contents of 
>> macros (or links) globally. So once you've created a title, it's easiest to 
>> stick with it though you may want it to be displayed differently.
>>
>> -- Mark  
>>
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-7, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just adding my 2cents with an idea:
>>>
>>> a small macro that displays a link if the tiddler is missing, but 
>>> transcludes the tiddler if it's not:
>>>
>>> in a macro-tiddler:
>>>
>>> \define trl(text)
>>> {{$text$||transcludilinktemplate}}
>>> \end
>>>
>>> in the "transcludilinktemplate":
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[is[missing]]">
>>> <$link to=<>><>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[!is[missing]]">
>>> <$transclude/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> ... call it with <> and it's a link as long as the 
>>> tiddler doesn't exist and it transcludes it when it does, neat!
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Webzine 1990s style: ideas for theme? Web Art Project

[TonyM]

Alex,

Perhaps referencing those external files is possible. Let us see what other 
say.

However, What about treating TW as a WebSite and connecting to an external 
audio hosting service.

Have you investigated the bandwidth such files may use if a lot of people 
come to your site? Many people with rich media content revert to SoundCloud 
or YouTube for videos for this very reason.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 6:28:11 PM UTC+10, AlexHough wrote:
>
> The topics are  music, art, craft, makerspace, design
>
> I've run into problems with the TW / audio solution. The standalone 
> version of TW can't to relative links to external folder of audio files
>
>
> Alex
>
> On 14 September 2018 at 03:31, Guille Rmo > 
> wrote:
>
>> I also think TW is a great fit for this sort of project. I think you can 
>> have the file in the usb and play it in tiddlywiki. 
>>
>> What kind of topics are present in your zine? If there is something I can 
>> contribute I would be glad to participate :) 
>>
>>
>>
>> El jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018, 6:47:10 (UTC-6), AlexHough escribió:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> From 1993-1999 I produced a fanzine. I am now revisting the project 
>>> using audio, video and -- naturally -- TW.
>>>
>>> Since the 1990s, in electronic music there have been trends evoking 
>>> earlier electronic music.
>>>
>>> I'd like the TW to share this aesthetic in a knowing and loving homage.
>>>
>>> The feeling I want to evoke is of "nostalgia for a forgotten future" - 
>>> the future was more exciting back in the early days of dance music and the 
>>> web.
>>>
>>> I think I'd like to distribute the TW and the audio adn video on a USB 
>>> stick. Releasing a fanzine (on a paper medium) on a USB (more modern, yet 
>>> on the way out thanks to Dropbox) is like the current trend where vinyl is 
>>> making a return
>>>
>>> Anyone one have any stylistic pointers? Even better if anyone wants 
>>> to engage in a media art project involving music, audio, video, 'zines and 
>>> TW, please get in contact
>>>
>>> best wishes  
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Webzine 1990s style: ideas for theme? Web Art Project

[Alex Hough]

The topics are  music, art, craft, makerspace, design

I've run into problems with the TW / audio solution. The standalone version
of TW can't to relative links to external folder of audio files


Alex

On 14 September 2018 at 03:31, Guille Rmo  wrote:

> I also think TW is a great fit for this sort of project. I think you can
> have the file in the usb and play it in tiddlywiki.
>
> What kind of topics are present in your zine? If there is something I can
> contribute I would be glad to participate :)
>
>
>
> El jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018, 6:47:10 (UTC-6), AlexHough escribió:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> From 1993-1999 I produced a fanzine. I am now revisting the project using
>> audio, video and -- naturally -- TW.
>>
>> Since the 1990s, in electronic music there have been trends evoking
>> earlier electronic music.
>>
>> I'd like the TW to share this aesthetic in a knowing and loving homage.
>>
>> The feeling I want to evoke is of "nostalgia for a forgotten future" -
>> the future was more exciting back in the early days of dance music and the
>> web.
>>
>> I think I'd like to distribute the TW and the audio adn video on a USB
>> stick. Releasing a fanzine (on a paper medium) on a USB (more modern, yet
>> on the way out thanks to Dropbox) is like the current trend where vinyl is
>> making a return
>>
>> Anyone one have any stylistic pointers? Even better if anyone wants
>> to engage in a media art project involving music, audio, video, 'zines and
>> TW, please get in contact
>>
>> best wishes
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
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[tw5] Re: Preparing Maarfapad v1.0: Your wish list

[Abraham Samma]

Hi Guille,

Thanks for the encouraging response. Encryption of content in Maarfapad is 
guaranteed by TW's built-in encryption tool (fyi I've already had atleast 
one user complain about forgetting their password to their TW. I could only 
sympathize :-( but atleast got a takeaway of TW's security) and only you 
can decrypt them. Saved wikis with password act as a second layer of 
authentication for your account's wikis.

The password for your account is hashed and salted before it is saved to 
Maarfapad during sign up, so they're useless in someone else's hands. HTTPS 
is guaranteed too unless you add third party image attachments or links in 
your wiki.

I am infact considering giving users the ability to make hosted wikis 
public with a single click, but I it still is a work in progress. We'll 
see. Thanks for your inputs.

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:58:23 AM UTC+3, Guille Rmo wrote:
>
> Hi Abraham. To me one of the most important issues when thinking to host 
> my notes in someone else's server is security and privacy. Do you encrypt 
> data on your servers? It is one of the things I have thought I'd like to 
> contribute, but I think it would require way more knowledge about how 
> tiddlywiki works in the backend and when it loads user tiddlers. I think it 
> should be encrypted in the backend and it should only be decrypted on the 
> client side. Of course this introduces the risk of losing your data if you 
> can't remember your password. But for me that risk is better than trusting 
> my personal notes to someone else.
>
> You could also host public TWs that act as blog websites. So you can edit 
> the TW and then publish a TW with no edit capabilities and a simple 
> template.
>
> Anyway, just to mention a couple of ideas I have had about TW. 
> Congratulations on maarfapad. I think hosting TW is a great business option 
> and I hope you succeed at it. 
>   
> Regards,
> Guillermo.
>
> El sábado, 15 de septiembre de 2018, 7:10:33 (UTC-6), Abraham Samma 
> escribió:
>>
>> Hello all ,
>>
>> Thank you all who have taken time to try out or use Maarfapad 
>> , a private hosting service for your 
>> wikis. 
>>
>> I am now looking forward to improving the service in anticipation of v1.0 
>> release. There are a lot of stuff I find interesting but they're currently 
>> partially implemented or not at all. Such as:
>>
>>
>>1. Automatic backup to local folder option (without the need for an 
>>extension) when offline or after a failed save to the online service. 
>>Currently Maarfapad saves to the browser local cache via a service worker 
>>after every save. This option can currently be switched off if you want 
>> to 
>>use another saving method.
>>2. A social sharing mechanism. A lot of you want this "feature" 
>>though I still am not exactly sure what you all want in this regard. 
>>Perhaps something along the lines of a "Slideshare" like site for 
>>TiddlyWiki. Or may be a WordPress like service (*WikiPress *)?
>>3. PS. Almost forgot, I will add more editions of TW that you will be 
>>able to create with a single click and add into your Maarfapad account. I 
>>could extend this feature to allow you to add any TW project you see 
>> online 
>>to your account.
>>
>> Feel free to air your opinions. I will consider them all.
>>
>> Thank you all again. Bookmark Maarfapad's Blog 
>>  if you want to 
>> keep track of project updates.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Preparing Maarfapad v1.0: Your wish list

[Abraham Samma]

I am afraid nodejs solutions won't apply to Maarfapad so you can't install 
Bob server. However, I'll take this as a personal challenge to come up with 
something compatible to Bob server. It shouldn't be too hard (as I proceed 
to prove myself wrong (>_<) ).

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 11:04:45 PM UTC+3, Mat wrote:
>
> Let me emphasize something here though: while I could implement a lot of 
>> stuff in the backend, I'd like to limit that in the name of transparency 
>> (and reducing technical debt) and instead encourage these implementations 
>> using client logic.
>>
>
> I get your point but just so no misunderstanding; it is not possible to 
> achieve the "connected wikis" by only doing things on the client TW side. 
> Or, are people allowed to install, say, the Bob server on Maarfapad, I.e a 
> nodejs solution beyond the TW?
>
> <:-)
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