[tw5] Re: list fields filtered by content

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Dave,

Tony is right -- there is something funny going on with the "title". It 
appears that it's not only a constructor, but that it gets invoked even if 
the filter operators leading up to it should result in the null set. 

The following variation worked on my test (but they *always* work on my 
test ;-) )

<$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
<$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]" 
variable="dummy" >
<$list filter="[titlegetindex[origin]]" variable="origin">
.<>.




The 2nd list statement just uses a dummy variable to avoid setting the 
<> variable. The title of the data dictionary is 
*constructed* in the 3rd list and then it's "origin" index pulled out.

Hopefully this will work better --

-- Mark





On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:54:06 PM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> Hi, I had some time to start work on this again and realized something's 
> wrong.
>
> If you look at the testResults.png (see attached) it shows that instead of 
> only getting the data from the tiddlers listed as fields with the value "1" 
> (there's only one of them with that value), it just gets them all. 
>
> here's the code in question:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
> getindex[origin]]" variable="origin">
> <>
> 
> 
>
> If I delete out this "prefix[1]suffix[1]", it doesn't change at all
>
> I also tried adding another layer to see if that would solve it:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
> ]" variable="refined">
> <$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
> variable="origin">
> .<>.
> 
> 
> 
>
> ...but again I get all the data results from the data tiddlers instead of 
> just the ones with "1" in the originating fields (i.e. deleting "
> prefix[1]suffix[1]" changes nothing)
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: list fields filtered by content

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Note: 

Title is a constructor 
   
   - A few operators ignore their input and generate an independent output 
   instead. These are called selection constructors: they construct an 
   entirely new selection .

is this what you really want?

Tony


On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:46:04 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I have not played much with datatiddlers, so cant help too much however
>
> Have you tried to look inside the problem like this
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
> *fieldname=<>*
> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
> ]" variable="refined">
> *refined=<**>*
> <$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
> variable="origin">
> .<>.
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> What is your use of title when every filter starts [all[current] 
> (Referring to current tiddler?)
>
> By using a variable on every list, the currentTiddler remains the calling 
> tiddler
> As I read it;
> The first list returns each fieldname on the current tiddler
> The second is trying to get the value of each "named" field as long as 
> it's value is 1? "getprefix[1]suffix[1]"
> The third ?
> I am not sure you need [all[current] in the last 2 lists and I am not sure 
> what title title are trying to do when the get is 
> returning the value in a field just before it.
>
> Just another set of eyes
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:54:06 AM UTC+10, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I had some time to start work on this again and realized something's 
>> wrong.
>>
>> If you look at the testResults.png (see attached) it shows that instead 
>> of only getting the data from the tiddlers listed as fields with the value 
>> "1" (there's only one of them with that value), it just gets them all. 
>>
>> here's the code in question:
>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
>> getindex[origin]]" variable="origin">
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> If I delete out this "prefix[1]suffix[1]", it doesn't change at all
>>
>> I also tried adding another layer to see if that would solve it:
>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
>> ]" variable="refined">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
>> variable="origin">
>> .<>.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> ...but again I get all the data results from the data tiddlers instead of 
>> just the ones with "1" in the originating fields (i.e. deleting "
>> prefix[1]suffix[1]" changes nothing)
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: list fields filtered by content

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Dave,

I have not played much with datatiddlers, so cant help too much however

Have you tried to look inside the problem like this

<$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
*fieldname=<>*
<$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title]" 
variable="refined">
*refined=<**>*
<$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
variable="origin">
.<>.





What is your use of title when every filter starts [all[current] 
(Referring to current tiddler?)

By using a variable on every list, the currentTiddler remains the calling 
tiddler
As I read it;
The first list returns each fieldname on the current tiddler
The second is trying to get the value of each "named" field as long as it's 
value is 1? "getprefix[1]suffix[1]"
The third ?
I am not sure you need [all[current] in the last 2 lists and I am not sure 
what title title are trying to do when the get is 
returning the value in a field just before it.

Just another set of eyes

Tony



On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:54:06 AM UTC+10, Dave wrote:
>
> Hi, I had some time to start work on this again and realized something's 
> wrong.
>
> If you look at the testResults.png (see attached) it shows that instead of 
> only getting the data from the tiddlers listed as fields with the value "1" 
> (there's only one of them with that value), it just gets them all. 
>
> here's the code in question:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
> getindex[origin]]" variable="origin">
> <>
> 
> 
>
> If I delete out this "prefix[1]suffix[1]", it doesn't change at all
>
> I also tried adding another layer to see if that would solve it:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title
> ]" variable="refined">
> <$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
> variable="origin">
> .<>.
> 
> 
> 
>
> ...but again I get all the data results from the data tiddlers instead of 
> just the ones with "1" in the originating fields (i.e. deleting "
> prefix[1]suffix[1]" changes nothing)
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: list fields filtered by content

2018-08-01 Thread Dave
Hi, I had some time to start work on this again and realized something's 
wrong.

If you look at the testResults.png (see attached) it shows that instead of 
only getting the data from the tiddlers listed as fields with the value "1" 
(there's only one of them with that value), it just gets them all. 

here's the code in question:
<$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
<$list 
filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]titlegetindex[origin]]"
 
variable="origin">
<>



If I delete out this "prefix[1]suffix[1]", it doesn't change at all

I also tried adding another layer to see if that would solve it:
<$list filter="[all[current]fields[]]" variable="fieldname">
<$list filter="[all[current]getprefix[1]suffix[1]title]" 
variable="refined">
<$list filter="[all[current]gettitlegetindex[origin]]" 
variable="origin">
.<>.




...but again I get all the data results from the data tiddlers instead of 
just the ones with "1" in the originating fields (i.e. deleting "
prefix[1]suffix[1]" changes nothing)

Any ideas?


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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Alexei R,

*Some food for thought*

As an ICT Consultant, I plan to do exactly what you are doing to document IT 
infrastructure. I can see how to make a button that would take the value 
from a field and set it as a tag. Normally this would occur in the 
viewTemplate. I would have this button appear only if the field existed on 
the current tiddler using a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate.

However I can feel it in my knowledge management senses that when you say "tags 
and fields with identical value" you have your design wrong in someway. If 
you cant design out this complexity
I believe you need to give tags or the values in fields primacy, and then 
allow existing values to provide the source when selecting the value for 
the other.

Further TOC's can be created by multiple means so tags need not be the only 
method, as mark pointed to in his PMario link.

You could make a fields values selectable from any source you wish, or you 
could set tag values based on values from any source you wish. So perhaps 
the answer already exists. 

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 04:42:12 UTC+10, Alexei R wrote:
>
> I'm trying to use TiddlyWiki to map / document some company's IT 
> infrastructure.
> There are couple types of entities (tiddlers) servers, network equipment, 
> software, OS, vendors, manufacturers, specs etc. 
> I provide relationships between entities by tags and individual properties 
> of each entity by values of particular fields.
> On the one hand TiddlyWiki's hierarchal table of content mechanism based 
> on tagging.
> On the other hand I decided to use tiddlers fields as kind of "variables" 
> in order to stor and refer to a different values by field's name.
> But in some cases for some tiddlers I discovered that tags and fields with 
> identical value. For example in tiddler for server I need tag "Server" in 
> order to link this tiddler to the server's branch of TOC and on the other 
> hand I have comp_type field with value server in order to describe that 
> this computer's type is server.
> So in practice I have two variables with the same value that must be the 
> same for both of them all the time. And if I would like to change the value 
> I have to be very cautious and do not forget to change both of them 
> simultaneously.
> So I thought why don't I link them together. I'll have single variable 
> that I could link to a tag and to a field. And change it in one place only.
> Is it a way to use tiddlers field values to provide TOC structure?
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:55:56 PM UTC+3, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlywiki does not have a method for doing this. But what are you trying 
>> to achieve? If you already have a filed with the desired value in it you 
>> may be able to use the field value instead of the tag for whatever you are 
>> trying to do.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Mohammad,

It would be nice for this to be automated, but if you needed thumbnails to 
be generated for slides you could do so with each slide using open in new 
window, a good capture tool like snagit, resize the image then drag it to 
the wiki, the add the image title to a thumbnail field.

Using this method you could annotate, title, frame each thumbnail, I have a 
workflow that could do this in 30-60 seconds per slide.

In many cases there is no harm if the content of the slide changes a little.

Just saying;

Tony

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 04:47:04 UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is there any way to produce thumbnail images from tiddlers say tagged with 
> someTag?
>
> for example:
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[someTag]]">
>  <>
> 
>
>
>
> It seems trasclude does not keep the source format (those applied by css 
> to special tagged tiddlers)!
>
> I want to use later list widget to show like gallery for quick view these 
> tiddlers.
>
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Mark,

Totally agree with your approach,

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ is currently doing this with a ? icon in 
the page toolbar. This could also be listed somewhere in more or tools 
sidebars tabs so it can be found again if suppressed. It should be minimal 
but lead back to the source and support at tiddlywiki.com. Perhaps even 
allow page toolbar visibility to be toggled on off in the the help tiddler.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 05:27:17 UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Help with the raw TW. A help framework would be too case-specific and 
> probably controversial. I was thinking along the lines of a tiddler or two 
> included with the "empty" edition, that was mostly out of the way but could 
> be configured to not show if the user really wanted it suppressed. The idea 
> is just to funnel people who are making personal use of TW back to the 
> website and/or forum which they may have forgotten.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:05:37 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Help needs to be there. One click away.
>>
>> Part of the issue is that TW can be different things. Help with WHAT? 
>> This implementation? Or "raw" TW?
>>
>> Anyway. Adding a method for auto adding help would be a double-plus IMO.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at a recent question in the forum, I realized that not everyone 
>>> may know how to get help. 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: username not saved, node

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Alex,

It could be argued this is a feature, it may also essential if the 
authorisation comes from elsewhere (logins/password)
You could look into startup actions to set a user name each time. You need 
to set the text of $:/status/UserName

We no longer use cookies as we did in TWC to do this.

I have being working on a Login process that remembers user IDs for 
selection in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/StartupAction but its not ready for 
publication and version 5.1.18 has quite a few changes coming in this 
regard.

Tony



On Thursday, 2 August 2018 04:39:55 UTC+10, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Hi TW
>
> I'm using the node version, i've noticed that when I reload the user name 
> does not persist. 
>
> Is this a bug?
>
>
> best
>
> Alex
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
Arlen

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 03:03:31 UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Does termux have the same problem on the same device?
>

I used Termux, purchased the add on for the load on restart but never got 
it to auto-load. Limits of my bash script knowledge I expect. I only used 
the node version not tiddlyserver.

I did however use 0.0.0.0 when needed and left it to default to 127.0.0.1 
on occasion and it behaved as expected on my local lan where I used the 
devices IP address to access the wiki from my desktop, I observed issues 
once on an alternate network after starting the server (the IP Address had 
changed) but never bothered to learn what to do beyond reloading the wiki.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Table of contents: multiple tags?

2018-08-01 Thread TonyM
DemoniWaari

What about listing all days in each month, after all there is never more 
than 31 of them and if a day is the first day of the week eg; monday show 
the week name next to that day, This acknowledges the weeks are not a 
subset of months. You could just show every monday and its week number but 
not other empty days.

Of note is your tag structure is in someways unnecessary if your journal 
tiddlers all contained a fields with the journal date/time because this is 
enough information to return any type of list and organisation by date.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:29:44 UTC+10, DemoniWaari wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a table of contents where I keep my journal. The journal is further 
> divided into months and weeks, so each month has multiple weeks under it. 
> The problem is that if I have a week which has a few days in August for 
> example (like week 31) and rest are in July, when I tag my daily tiddlers 
> with "Week 31" I get the same tiddlers under July and under August, even 
> though I'd like to just have 01.08 under August and rest of week 31 under 
> July. So this is what happens:
>
>- July
>   - Week 28
>  - 10.07
>  - 11.07
>  - ...
>  - Week 30
>  - 24.07
>  - 25.07
>  - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 30.07
>  - *01.08*
>  - August
>   - Week 31
>  - *30.07*
>  - 01.08
>   
> I'd like it to look like:
>
>
>- July
>   - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 30.07
>   - August
>   - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 01.08
>   
> So would it be possible to use tags like "Week 31", "August" and "Week 
> 31", "July" to further specify where I want that one tiddler to reside in? 
> I am generating the ToC simply with <> 
> (I didn't write the full structure above as it feels unnecessary).
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

>
> Mark S. wrote: ...just to funnel people who are making personal use of TW 
> back to the website and/or forum which they may have forgotten.


Hopefully they would never have known how they got it.

Josiah 

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[tw5] Re: Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Help with the raw TW. A help framework would be too case-specific and 
probably controversial. I was thinking along the lines of a tiddler or two 
included with the "empty" edition, that was mostly out of the way but could 
be configured to not show if the user really wanted it suppressed. The idea 
is just to funnel people who are making personal use of TW back to the 
website and/or forum which they may have forgotten.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:05:37 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Help needs to be there. One click away.
>
> Part of the issue is that TW can be different things. Help with WHAT? This 
> implementation? Or "raw" TW?
>
> Anyway. Adding a method for auto adding help would be a double-plus IMO.
>
> Josiah
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Looking at a recent question in the forum, I realized that not everyone 
>> may know how to get help. 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

>
> @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Bean's dental encounter was more about "Re-making The Self": 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NSM_EHmuw 
>>
>
On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:59:22 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: 

> I knew there had to be some deep inner meaning.
>

I just thought it was just Buster Keaton on a budget. 

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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
Thank you Mark for your time and help.
Yes, I saw the Tiddlywiki.com has done the same! But I will go through css 
and I think If I can develop some css code with a good template I will be 
able to create the thumbnail!

The application for me is to have all my slides in a presentation (in 
tiddlyshow app) as thumbnail and then by clicking one of them navigate to 
it!
The tiddler without images now can be transcluded in desired size and 
format but tiddler with images (as images in different tiddlers have very 
different size it is a bit tricky!)

Cheers
*Mohammad*

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[tw5] Re: Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Help needs to be there. One click away.

Part of the issue is that TW can be different things. Help with WHAT? This 
implementation? Or "raw" TW?

Anyway. Adding a method for auto adding help would be a double-plus IMO.

Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Looking at a recent question in the forum, I realized that not everyone 
> may know how to get help. 
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[tw5] Re: Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
Agree!
No you can only see the info page (tiddler) which has not enough 
information!

*Mohammad*


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>
> Just a thought.
>
> Looking at a recent question in the forum, I realized that not everyone 
> may know how to get help. Sure, at one time they may have downloaded TW 
> from TiddlyWiki.com, but that doesn't mean that they remember the site 
> name. Was it tiddlywiki.org? TiddleWiki.net ? Once someone changes the 
> title they may not remember even the exact name of the software.
>
> Most software has an "about" or "help" page where you can link back to the 
> original software home. If TW has this, it must be buried deep. Maybe 
> adding a "Help" or "About" option to the sidebar, or at least to the 
> toolbar collection would help people find their way "home" ?
>
> -- Mark
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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Making your own images would be the most obvious and precise way of doing 
this. It would also mean of course that you would have to regularly update. 
I'm sure there's various screen-capture utilities that could help, but it 
would still take awhile if you have a lot of tiddlers.

-- Mark

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>
> Mark,
>  I found this thumbnail macro in Tiddlywiki.com
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Fthumbnails
>
> But It uses images to show as thumbnail not tiddler containing wiki text!
>
> By the way, I think the best is to sit and write css code to have my own 
> thumbnail macro!
>
> /Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
PMario has a plugin that may do what you want: 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/#tocP%20-%20Parent%20Based%20TOC

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, Alexei R wrote:
>
> I'm trying to use TiddlyWiki to map / document some company's IT 
> infrastructure.
> There are couple types of entities (tiddlers) servers, network equipment, 
> software, OS, vendors, manufacturers, specs etc. 
> I provide relationships between entities by tags and individual properties 
> of each entity by values of particular fields.
> On the one hand TiddlyWiki's hierarchal table of content mechanism based 
> on tagging.
> On the other hand I decided to use tiddlers fields as kind of "variables" 
> in order to stor and refer to a different values by field's name.
> But in some cases for some tiddlers I discovered that tags and fields with 
> identical value. For example in tiddler for server I need tag "Server" in 
> order to link this tiddler to the server's branch of TOC and on the other 
> hand I have comp_type field with value server in order to describe that 
> this computer's type is server.
> So in practice I have two variables with the same value that must be the 
> same for both of them all the time. And if I would like to change the value 
> I have to be very cautious and do not forget to change both of them 
> simultaneously.
> So I thought why don't I link them together. I'll have single variable 
> that I could link to a tag and to a field. And change it in one place only.
> Is it a way to use tiddlers field values to provide TOC structure?
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:55:56 PM UTC+3, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlywiki does not have a method for doing this. But what are you trying 
>> to achieve? If you already have a filed with the desired value in it you 
>> may be able to use the field value instead of the tag for whatever you are 
>> trying to do.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Announcing TWITS for data folders!!!

2018-08-01 Thread Arlen Beiler
There are two main reasons why I store my data folders in my Dropbox.
First, syncing my changes to Dropbox is super fast, even on a slow network.
Second, changes are saved instantly, including draft tiddlers, which means
I never lose work. It feels much more responsive and gives me a sense of
security.

However, you still need to use the Dropbox App to sync the changes to
Dropbox and TiddlyWiki or TiddlyServer to communicate with the browser. But
TWITS for data folders allows me to skip the Dropbox sync and TiddlyWiki
and just load it straight from Dropbox. It's more for people who tend to
operate from multiple computers, but in the future, it will probably
include a multi-user component to it, which my current NodeJS+Dropbox sync
configuration basically cannot do.

So that's some of my thoughts.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:32 AM Alex Hough  wrote:

> So you could link your node .tid files to dropbox?
>
> I can see the point of running a single file TW  am i missing the
> benefit of saving .tid files
>
>
>
>
> Alex
>
> On 1 August 2018 at 19:22, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> TiddlyWiki on node (and TiddlyServer) can run with data tiddlers. That
>> is, each tiddler is in it's own file below a common subdirectory and is
>> served up by the tiddlyserver as though it were one single TiddlyWiki. This
>> has some advantages, like instant upgrades, faster load times, and you can
>> (in a pinch) edit using your operating system text edit tools. But it's not
>> as universal or portable as using a single-file TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:11:04 AM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arlen
>>>
>>> I am using a TW file and it works really well.
>>> I've partnered it with Updog
>>>
>>> Its amazing! thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>> a final question: when you say "data folders" what do you mean?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> [1] https://updog.co/news/tiddly-wiki/
>>>
>>> On 1 August 2018 at 02:10, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
>>>
 Dropbox confirms it with the window you attached earlier. I was
 assuming everyone on this forum is familiar with
 https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ so I didn't bother to explain.

 The whole point of the app is to access your Dropbox and read and write
 the data folder you select. Sorry for the confusion.


 On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 08:30 TonyM  wrote:

> As mark says, Arlen should confirm - you are granting access to the
> Application
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:29:18 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arlen,
>>
>> I think the concern is that a 3rd party might be perusing your
>> dropbox directory. I think you've explained before that that 
>> doesn't/can't
>> happen?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:59:32 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, the app enables you to access TiddlyWiki data folders stored in
>>> your Dropbox. It works online so you can access it from any computer you
>>> are logged into Dropbox on.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:19 Alex Hough  wrote:
>>>
 Arlen,

 I'd like to help test this, Ive got this far:

 I am a bit confused... could you explain what happens next. It
 looks like I am being asked to share my dropbox with you.



 Alex

 On 30 July 2018 at 08:32, Arlen Beiler  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I have worked out a prototype of TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox
> that loads data folders. I am eager to hear your feedback on it. It's 
> the
> same basic idea, so without further ado, here is a link to the page.
>
> It is still in very early beta, so there is no code to save
> changes yet, but that is part of the plan. There is no code anywhere 
> in the
> app that makes changes to your Dropbox, so feel free to explore all 
> you want
>
> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox-datafolder/
>
> And here is the Github repo.
>
> https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox-datafolder
>
> Let me know how it works.
>
> Enjoy!
> Arlen
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[tw5] Re: Announcing TWITS for data folders!!!

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It's interesting, but loading was slow. Maybe 3 tiddlers a second? If I had 
a 1000 tiddlers that might be too long. I like that it gives you a count 
while it loads.

-- Mark


On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:34:10 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have worked out a prototype of TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox that 
> loads data folders. I am eager to hear your feedback on it. It's the same 
> basic idea, so without further ado, here is a link to the page.
>
> It is still in very early beta, so there is no code to save changes yet, 
> but that is part of the plan. There is no code anywhere in the app that 
> makes changes to your Dropbox, so feel free to explore all you want
>
> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox-datafolder/
>
> And here is the Github repo.
>
> https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox-datafolder
>
> Let me know how it works.
>
> Enjoy!
> Arlen
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
I'm trying to use TiddlyWiki to map / document some company's IT 
infrastructure.
There are couple types of entities (tiddlers) servers, network equipment, 
software, OS, vendors, manufacturers, specs etc. 
I provide relationships between entities by tags and individual properties 
of each entity by values of particular fields.
On the one hand TiddlyWiki's hierarchal table of content mechanism based on 
tagging.
On the other hand I decided to use tiddlers fields as kind of "variables" 
in order to stor and refer to a different values by field's name.
But in some cases for some tiddlers I discovered that tags and fields with 
identical value. For example in tiddler for server I need tag "Server" in 
order to link this tiddler to the server's branch of TOC and on the other 
hand I have comp_type field with value server in order to describe that 
this computer's type is server.
So in practice I have two variables with the same value that must be the 
same for both of them all the time. And if I would like to change the value 
I have to be very cautious and do not forget to change both of them 
simultaneously.
So I thought why don't I link them together. I'll have single variable that 
I could link to a tag and to a field. And change it in one place only.
Is it a way to use tiddlers field values to provide TOC structure?

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:55:56 PM UTC+3, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Tiddlywiki does not have a method for doing this. But what are you trying 
> to achieve? If you already have a filed with the desired value in it you 
> may be able to use the field value instead of the tag for whatever you are 
> trying to do.
>

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Re: [tw5] thumbnail images from tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread Alex Hough
an idea: maybe transclude through a template?


ALex

On 30 July 2018 at 19:47, Mohammad  wrote:

> Is there any way to produce thumbnail images from tiddlers say tagged with
> someTag?
>
> for example:
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[someTag]]">
>  <>
> 
>
>
>
> It seems trasclude does not keep the source format (those applied by css
> to special tagged tiddlers)!
>
> I want to use later list widget to show like gallery for quick view these
> tiddlers.
>
> Mohammad
>
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[tw5] username not saved, node

2018-08-01 Thread Alex Hough
Hi TW

I'm using the node version, i've noticed that when I reload the user name
does not persist.

Is this a bug?


best

Alex

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Re: [tw5] Announcing TWITS for data folders!!!

2018-08-01 Thread Alex Hough
So you could link your node .tid files to dropbox?

I can see the point of running a single file TW  am i missing the
benefit of saving .tid files




Alex

On 1 August 2018 at 19:22, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> TiddlyWiki on node (and TiddlyServer) can run with data tiddlers. That is,
> each tiddler is in it's own file below a common subdirectory and is served
> up by the tiddlyserver as though it were one single TiddlyWiki. This has
> some advantages, like instant upgrades, faster load times, and you can (in
> a pinch) edit using your operating system text edit tools. But it's not as
> universal or portable as using a single-file TiddlyWiki.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:11:04 AM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arlen
>>
>> I am using a TW file and it works really well.
>> I've partnered it with Updog
>>
>> Its amazing! thank you!
>>
>>
>> a final question: when you say "data folders" what do you mean?
>>
>> Alex
>> [1] https://updog.co/news/tiddly-wiki/
>>
>> On 1 August 2018 at 02:10, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
>>
>>> Dropbox confirms it with the window you attached earlier. I was assuming
>>> everyone on this forum is familiar with https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-
>>> dropbox/ so I didn't bother to explain.
>>>
>>> The whole point of the app is to access your Dropbox and read and write
>>> the data folder you select. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 08:30 TonyM  wrote:
>>>
 As mark says, Arlen should confirm - you are granting access to the
 Application

 On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:29:18 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen,
>
> I think the concern is that a 3rd party might be perusing your dropbox
> directory. I think you've explained before that that doesn't/can't happen?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:59:32 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the app enables you to access TiddlyWiki data folders stored in
>> your Dropbox. It works online so you can access it from any computer you
>> are logged into Dropbox on.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:19 Alex Hough  wrote:
>>
>>> Arlen,
>>>
>>> I'd like to help test this, Ive got this far:
>>>
>>> I am a bit confused... could you explain what happens next. It looks
>>> like I am being asked to share my dropbox with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 30 July 2018 at 08:32, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
>>>
 Hello everyone,

 I have worked out a prototype of TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox
 that loads data folders. I am eager to hear your feedback on it. It's 
 the
 same basic idea, so without further ado, here is a link to the page.

 It is still in very early beta, so there is no code to save changes
 yet, but that is part of the plan. There is no code anywhere in the app
 that makes changes to your Dropbox, so feel free to explore all you 
 want

 https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox-datafolder/

 And here is the Github repo.

 https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox-datafolder

 Let me know how it works.

 Enjoy!
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Re: [tw5] Announcing TWITS for data folders!!!

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
TiddlyWiki on node (and TiddlyServer) can run with data tiddlers. That is, 
each tiddler is in it's own file below a common subdirectory and is served 
up by the tiddlyserver as though it were one single TiddlyWiki. This has 
some advantages, like instant upgrades, faster load times, and you can (in 
a pinch) edit using your operating system text edit tools. But it's not as 
universal or portable as using a single-file TiddlyWiki.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:11:04 AM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen
>
> I am using a TW file and it works really well.
> I've partnered it with Updog
>
> Its amazing! thank you!
>
>
> a final question: when you say "data folders" what do you mean?
>
> Alex
> [1] https://updog.co/news/tiddly-wiki/
>
> On 1 August 2018 at 02:10, Arlen Beiler > 
> wrote:
>
>> Dropbox confirms it with the window you attached earlier. I was assuming 
>> everyone on this forum is familiar with 
>> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ so I didn't bother to explain. 
>>
>> The whole point of the app is to access your Dropbox and read and write 
>> the data folder you select. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 08:30 TonyM > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As mark says, Arlen should confirm - you are granting access to the 
>>> Application 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:29:18 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:

 Hi Arlen,

 I think the concern is that a 3rd party might be perusing your dropbox 
 directory. I think you've explained before that that doesn't/can't happen?

 Thanks!

 -- Mark

 On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:59:32 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Yes, the app enables you to access TiddlyWiki data folders stored in 
> your Dropbox. It works online so you can access it from any computer you 
> are logged into Dropbox on.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:19 Alex Hough  wrote:
>
>> Arlen,
>>
>> I'd like to help test this, Ive got this far:
>>
>> I am a bit confused... could you explain what happens next. It looks 
>> like I am being asked to share my dropbox with you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 30 July 2018 at 08:32, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I have worked out a prototype of TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox 
>>> that loads data folders. I am eager to hear your feedback on it. It's 
>>> the 
>>> same basic idea, so without further ado, here is a link to the page.
>>>
>>> It is still in very early beta, so there is no code to save changes 
>>> yet, but that is part of the plan. There is no code anywhere in the app 
>>> that makes changes to your Dropbox, so feel free to explore all you want
>>>
>>> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox-datafolder/
>>>
>>> And here is the Github repo.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox-datafolder
>>>
>>> Let me know how it works.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Arlen
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Re: [tw5] Announcing TWITS for data folders!!!

2018-08-01 Thread Alex Hough
Hi Arlen

I am using a TW file and it works really well.
I've partnered it with Updog

Its amazing! thank you!


a final question: when you say "data folders" what do you mean?

Alex
[1] https://updog.co/news/tiddly-wiki/

On 1 August 2018 at 02:10, Arlen Beiler  wrote:

> Dropbox confirms it with the window you attached earlier. I was assuming
> everyone on this forum is familiar with https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-
> dropbox/ so I didn't bother to explain.
>
> The whole point of the app is to access your Dropbox and read and write
> the data folder you select. Sorry for the confusion.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 08:30 TonyM  wrote:
>
>> As mark says, Arlen should confirm - you are granting access to the
>> Application
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:29:18 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arlen,
>>>
>>> I think the concern is that a 3rd party might be perusing your dropbox
>>> directory. I think you've explained before that that doesn't/can't happen?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:59:32 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 Yes, the app enables you to access TiddlyWiki data folders stored in
 your Dropbox. It works online so you can access it from any computer you
 are logged into Dropbox on.

 On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:19 Alex Hough  wrote:

> Arlen,
>
> I'd like to help test this, Ive got this far:
>
> I am a bit confused... could you explain what happens next. It looks
> like I am being asked to share my dropbox with you.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
> On 30 July 2018 at 08:32, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have worked out a prototype of TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox
>> that loads data folders. I am eager to hear your feedback on it. It's the
>> same basic idea, so without further ado, here is a link to the page.
>>
>> It is still in very early beta, so there is no code to save changes
>> yet, but that is part of the plan. There is no code anywhere in the app
>> that makes changes to your Dropbox, so feel free to explore all you want
>>
>> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox-datafolder/
>>
>> And here is the Github repo.
>>
>> https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox-datafolder
>>
>> Let me know how it works.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>> Arlen
>>
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[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark S.

I been playing with this. Create Tiddler: $:/temp/mark-test ...

... on Single File TW in normal browser & in TiddlyDesktop PERSISTS between 
sessions. 

Under node & Bob exactly the same gets deleted inter-session.

I made an issue on GitHub here: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3375

J.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> There is no bug. "$:/temp" can be created and it is not deleted on save as 
>>> actually nothing stops that.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you're saying. My test of $:/temp... under tiddly 
>> server seems to suggest that $:/temp files get deleted.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Unfortunately, termux won't run on my device. 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 10:03:31 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Does termux have the same problem on the same device?
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 00:50 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> 0.0.0.0 has been used with TW on node to make the instance available to 
>> everyone on the local network. I'm pretty sure it worked with tiddlyserver 
>> on Windows (I'll need to reboot to check) and certainly with Bob -- which 
>> is why Jed has these warnings about using it in a coffee-shop environment.
>>
>> Having to look up your assigned IP and then re-edit the settings file is 
>> a bit of a hassle.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:23:18 AM UTC-7, quest...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> don't know where you got the idea of 0.0.0.0 from - that this wrong 
>>> anway. This address generally means "All network interfaces on this host" - 
>>> not what you mean.  This is not really an IP address and more of a 
>>> placeholder for certain configuration files.
>>>
>>> the address - 127.0.0.1 however is defined in /etc/hosts as the 
>>> "loopback" address - meaning it is a real (but fake) network interface 
>>> addressable from that machine only.
>>>
>>> --Fabl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:19:20 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 It might be a linux thing. I'm getting the same thing when trying to 
 run with 0.0.0.0 (port 8080) on Linux desktop. It runs ok with 
 127.0.0.1:8080 and 192.168.1.100:8080. but gives the EADDRINUSE error 
 for 0.0.0.0. I was able to run 0.0.0.0 on the same machine under Windows.

 -- Mark

 On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> I get the same error. Interesting. I wonder if I should add a feature 
> to try to bind to all available addresses.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 13:09 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I did try different ports, though I didn't have the presence of mind 
>> to write them down. I remember picking something like 3030 which was 
>> unlikely to be in use. What port have you used with 0.0.0.0 successfully?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Usually that error is Address+Port specific. Did you try using a 
>>> different port?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I didn't use the command line arguments -- I just adjusted 
 settings.json. The problem is that it generates an EADDRINUSE error if 
 you 
 use 0.0.0.0. Or at least on mine. Does it work differently on your set 
 up?

 Thanks!
 -- Mark 

 On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:40:43 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> It only allows two command line arguments after the script file 
> (e.g. tiddlywiki.js), but there are several ways to get around that, 
> including editing tiddlywiki.js to add the server command arguments 
> if the 
> server command is specified. This makes it a lot easier to load a lot 
> of 
> data folders with the same options.
>
> TiddlyServer normally only needs a settings.json file anyway if it 
> isn't in the install directory, so no problem there.
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I got dory with tiddly server working with my 6 year old Samsung 
>> tablet. It won't run 0.0.0.0 -- claims a EADDRINUSE error. But if I 
>> look up 
>> the IP and feed that in then other devices can access it. And it 
>> actually 
>> seems as fast as connecting to the desktop server and maybe faster 
>> -- both 
>> than the desktop and local files mode (so far only tested 
>> single-file 
>> instances). Device-to-device communication was slow, but there might 
>> be 
>> something going on with my also ancient phone.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 12:04:29 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript
>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.tempage.dorynode
>>>
>>> I haven't looked into this much but I thought I would let 
>>> everyone know. This looks a lot simpler than termux but I haven't 
>>> checked 
>>> out everything yet. 
>>>
>>> It's an app that lets you run JavaScript. It runs TiddlyServer 
>>> so it should also run TiddlyWiki. I'll explore it more later.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Arlen
>>>
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[tw5] Where is the "about" or "help" tiddler?

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Just a thought.

Looking at a recent question in the forum, I realized that not everyone may 
know how to get help. Sure, at one time they may have downloaded TW from 
TiddlyWiki.com, but that doesn't mean that they remember the site name. Was 
it tiddlywiki.org? TiddleWiki.net ? Once someone changes the title they may 
not remember even the exact name of the software.

Most software has an "about" or "help" page where you can link back to the 
original software home. If TW has this, it must be buried deep. Maybe 
adding a "Help" or "About" option to the sidebar, or at least to the 
toolbar collection would help people find their way "home" ?

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

One place to start : https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/ and type hook in the 
search area.
I've found this too : 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/bQn6jkco48w/etaznVc4AAAJ

I don't know in what kind of module the JS code needs to be, and if it's a 
startup module, when does it has to start.

Regards

FrD


Le mercredi 1 août 2018 18:53:48 UTC+2, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> Where do I learn about this hook?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:21:14 AM UTC-7, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Another way would be to use the "th-saving-tiddler" hook (if it's 
>> available). So when you save the tiddler it automagically add the value of 
>> field1 as a tag.
>> But that's way above my TW skills :-)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 17:55:55 UTC+2, FrD a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't much about the edit template, but apart from typing John :-), I 
>>> can't think of any other solution.
>>> Having taken a quick look at $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags which is the 
>>> part of the edit template which deals with tags, ant at the tag-picker 
>>> macro ($:/core/macros/tag-picker), I don't think they allow what you want 
>>> to do.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 16:52:47 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :

 I'll try to explain it again:

 Let say we have two tiddlers. One tiddler with a *field *named 
 "field1" and it has value "John" and the another (second tiddler) tiddler 
 has the same field "field1" but with enother value "Ringo".
 What should I type into area marked with red circle?


 

 In order to get the following result:


 
 When "John" not hard coded as tag but it parametric value of "field1" 
 field.


 On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:59:56 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But 
> maybe I misunderstood your question.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
>> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
>> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to 
>>> work). Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>>>
>>> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>>>
>>> <$button>Field To Tag
>>> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
>>> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :

 Hello

 Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as 
 name of a tag.
 Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
 value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value 
 "Ringo".
 How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to 
 the string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
 How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value 
 of theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as 
 "Ringo".
 Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular 
 field as tag...

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread Arlen Beiler
Does termux have the same problem on the same device?

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 00:50 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> 0.0.0.0 has been used with TW on node to make the instance available to
> everyone on the local network. I'm pretty sure it worked with tiddlyserver
> on Windows (I'll need to reboot to check) and certainly with Bob -- which
> is why Jed has these warnings about using it in a coffee-shop environment.
>
> Having to look up your assigned IP and then re-edit the settings file is a
> bit of a hassle.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:23:18 AM UTC-7, quest...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> don't know where you got the idea of 0.0.0.0 from - that this wrong
>> anway. This address generally means "All network interfaces on this host" -
>> not what you mean.  This is not really an IP address and more of a
>> placeholder for certain configuration files.
>>
>> the address - 127.0.0.1 however is defined in /etc/hosts as the
>> "loopback" address - meaning it is a real (but fake) network interface
>> addressable from that machine only.
>>
>> --Fabl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:19:20 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It might be a linux thing. I'm getting the same thing when trying to run
>>> with 0.0.0.0 (port 8080) on Linux desktop. It runs ok with
>>> 127.0.0.1:8080 and 192.168.1.100:8080. but gives the EADDRINUSE error
>>> for 0.0.0.0. I was able to run 0.0.0.0 on the same machine under Windows.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 I get the same error. Interesting. I wonder if I should add a feature
 to try to bind to all available addresses.

 On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 13:09 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I did try different ports, though I didn't have the presence of mind
> to write them down. I remember picking something like 3030 which was
> unlikely to be in use. What port have you used with 0.0.0.0 successfully?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Usually that error is Address+Port specific. Did you try using a
>> different port?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't use the command line arguments -- I just adjusted
>>> settings.json. The problem is that it generates an EADDRINUSE error if 
>>> you
>>> use 0.0.0.0. Or at least on mine. Does it work differently on your set 
>>> up?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:40:43 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 It only allows two command line arguments after the script file
 (e.g. tiddlywiki.js), but there are several ways to get around that,
 including editing tiddlywiki.js to add the server command arguments if 
 the
 server command is specified. This makes it a lot easier to load a lot 
 of
 data folders with the same options.

 TiddlyServer normally only needs a settings.json file anyway if it
 isn't in the install directory, so no problem there.

 On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I got dory with tiddly server working with my 6 year old Samsung
> tablet. It won't run 0.0.0.0 -- claims a EADDRINUSE error. But if I 
> look up
> the IP and feed that in then other devices can access it. And it 
> actually
> seems as fast as connecting to the desktop server and maybe faster -- 
> both
> than the desktop and local files mode (so far only tested single-file
> instances). Device-to-device communication was slow, but there might 
> be
> something going on with my also ancient phone.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 12:04:29 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.tempage.dorynode
>>
>> I haven't looked into this much but I thought I would let
>> everyone know. This looks a lot simpler than termux but I haven't 
>> checked
>> out everything yet.
>>
>> It's an app that lets you run JavaScript. It runs TiddlyServer so
>> it should also run TiddlyWiki. I'll explore it more later.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>> Arlen
>>
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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Reminiscent of the Mr. Bean goes to the dentist episode.
>>
>
> Bean's dental encounter was more about "Re-making The Self": 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NSM_EHmuw 
>

I knew there had to be some deep inner meaning.


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[tw5] Re: Add/Remove Tags from Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Works fine when I test it. Note that it doesn't toggle between the two 
states -- that wasn't the original request.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:13:19 AM UTC-7, Uwe wrote:
>
> Hm, I'm wondering, why this code doesn't work at tiddlywiki.com.
> Greetings,
>
> Uwe
>
>
>>> \define myactions()
>>> <$fieldmangler>
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="OldTopics"/>
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Topics">
>>> 
>>> \end
>>> \define makeOld()
>>> Add <> Remove <>
>>> <$button actions=<>>{{$:/core/images/erase}}
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Where do I learn about this hook?

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:21:14 AM UTC-7, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Another way would be to use the "th-saving-tiddler" hook (if it's 
> available). So when you save the tiddler it automagically add the value of 
> field1 as a tag.
> But that's way above my TW skills :-)
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 17:55:55 UTC+2, FrD a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't much about the edit template, but apart from typing John :-), I 
>> can't think of any other solution.
>> Having taken a quick look at $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags which is the 
>> part of the edit template which deals with tags, ant at the tag-picker 
>> macro ($:/core/macros/tag-picker), I don't think they allow what you want 
>> to do.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 16:52:47 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>>
>>> I'll try to explain it again:
>>>
>>> Let say we have two tiddlers. One tiddler with a *field *named "field1" 
>>> and it has value "John" and the another (second tiddler) tiddler has the 
>>> same field "field1" but with enother value "Ringo".
>>> What should I type into area marked with red circle?
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> In order to get the following result:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> When "John" not hard coded as tag but it parametric value of "field1" 
>>> field.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:59:56 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:

 Hi,

 I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But 
 maybe I misunderstood your question.

 Regards

 FrD

 Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
>> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>>
>> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>>
>> <$button>Field To Tag
>> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
>> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as 
>>> name of a tag.
>>> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
>>> value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value 
>>> "Ringo".
>>> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to 
>>> the string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
>>> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
>>> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as 
>>> "Ringo".
>>> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular 
>>> field as tag...
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
0.0.0.0 has been used with TW on node to make the instance available to 
everyone on the local network. I'm pretty sure it worked with tiddlyserver 
on Windows (I'll need to reboot to check) and certainly with Bob -- which 
is why Jed has these warnings about using it in a coffee-shop environment.

Having to look up your assigned IP and then re-edit the settings file is a 
bit of a hassle.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:23:18 AM UTC-7, quest...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> don't know where you got the idea of 0.0.0.0 from - that this wrong anway. 
> This address generally means "All network interfaces on this host" - not 
> what you mean.  This is not really an IP address and more of a placeholder 
> for certain configuration files.
>
> the address - 127.0.0.1 however is defined in /etc/hosts as the "loopback" 
> address - meaning it is a real (but fake) network interface addressable 
> from that machine only.
>
> --Fabl
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:19:20 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It might be a linux thing. I'm getting the same thing when trying to run 
>> with 0.0.0.0 (port 8080) on Linux desktop. It runs ok with 127.0.0.1:8080 
>> and 192.168.1.100:8080. but gives the EADDRINUSE error for 0.0.0.0. I 
>> was able to run 0.0.0.0 on the same machine under Windows.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the same error. Interesting. I wonder if I should add a feature to 
>>> try to bind to all available addresses.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 13:09 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did try different ports, though I didn't have the presence of mind to 
 write them down. I remember picking something like 3030 which was unlikely 
 to be in use. What port have you used with 0.0.0.0 successfully?

 Thanks!
 -- Mark

 On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Usually that error is Address+Port specific. Did you try using a 
> different port?
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't use the command line arguments -- I just adjusted 
>> settings.json. The problem is that it generates an EADDRINUSE error if 
>> you 
>> use 0.0.0.0. Or at least on mine. Does it work differently on your set 
>> up?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark 
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:40:43 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> It only allows two command line arguments after the script file 
>>> (e.g. tiddlywiki.js), but there are several ways to get around that, 
>>> including editing tiddlywiki.js to add the server command arguments if 
>>> the 
>>> server command is specified. This makes it a lot easier to load a lot 
>>> of 
>>> data folders with the same options.
>>>
>>> TiddlyServer normally only needs a settings.json file anyway if it 
>>> isn't in the install directory, so no problem there.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I got dory with tiddly server working with my 6 year old Samsung 
 tablet. It won't run 0.0.0.0 -- claims a EADDRINUSE error. But if I 
 look up 
 the IP and feed that in then other devices can access it. And it 
 actually 
 seems as fast as connecting to the desktop server and maybe faster -- 
 both 
 than the desktop and local files mode (so far only tested single-file 
 instances). Device-to-device communication was slow, but there might 
 be 
 something going on with my also ancient phone.

 -- Mark

 On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 12:04:29 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.tempage.dorynode
>
> I haven't looked into this much but I thought I would let everyone 
> know. This looks a lot simpler than termux but I haven't checked out 
> everything yet. 
>
> It's an app that lets you run JavaScript. It runs TiddlyServer so 
> it should also run TiddlyWiki. I'll explore it more later.
>
> Enjoy!
> Arlen
>
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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

If you go with one firefox extension, there are some simple "tricks" that 
allow you to keep your TW files outside the Download folder (with symbolic 
links).

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 18:44:50 UTC+2, FrD a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> There are some answers at https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted
> Click on "Firefox". savetiddllers and file-backups are two firefox 
> extensions as you look familiar with this kind of things. But the other 
> solutions are great too.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 18:37:57 UTC+2, Chuck R. a écrit :
>>
>> I have Firefox v61 on Windows 7. 
>>
>> Is it possible that when I click the save button (on sidebar, on right) 
>> to save all my changes, that we can just save over the current TW file 
>> without going through all the Firefox Save As dialogs, and confirm to save? 
>> TiddlyFox no longer works with FF 61.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Checkout https://github.com/pmario/file-backups

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:37:57 AM UTC-7, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> I have Firefox v61 on Windows 7. 
>
> Is it possible that when I click the save button (on sidebar, on right) to 
> save all my changes, that we can just save over the current TW file without 
> going through all the Firefox Save As dialogs, and confirm to save? 
> TiddlyFox no longer works with FF 61.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

There are some answers at https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted
Click on "Firefox". savetiddllers and file-backups are two firefox 
extensions as you look familiar with this kind of things. But the other 
solutions are great too.

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 18:37:57 UTC+2, Chuck R. a écrit :
>
> I have Firefox v61 on Windows 7. 
>
> Is it possible that when I click the save button (on sidebar, on right) to 
> save all my changes, that we can just save over the current TW file without 
> going through all the Firefox Save As dialogs, and confirm to save? 
> TiddlyFox no longer works with FF 61.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

2018-08-01 Thread Chuck R.
I have Firefox v61 on Windows 7. 

Is it possible that when I click the save button (on sidebar, on right) to 
save all my changes, that we can just save over the current TW file without 
going through all the Firefox Save As dialogs, and confirm to save? 
TiddlyFox no longer works with FF 61.

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

Another way would be to use the "th-saving-tiddler" hook (if it's 
available). So when you save the tiddler it automagically add the value of 
field1 as a tag.
But that's way above my TW skills :-)

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 17:55:55 UTC+2, FrD a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't much about the edit template, but apart from typing John :-), I 
> can't think of any other solution.
> Having taken a quick look at $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags which is the 
> part of the edit template which deals with tags, ant at the tag-picker 
> macro ($:/core/macros/tag-picker), I don't think they allow what you want 
> to do.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 16:52:47 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> I'll try to explain it again:
>>
>> Let say we have two tiddlers. One tiddler with a *field *named "field1" 
>> and it has value "John" and the another (second tiddler) tiddler has the 
>> same field "field1" but with enother value "Ringo".
>> What should I type into area marked with red circle?
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> In order to get the following result:
>>
>>
>> 
>> When "John" not hard coded as tag but it parametric value of "field1" 
>> field.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:59:56 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But maybe 
>>> I misunderstood your question.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :

 I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
 Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
 name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?

 On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>
> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>
> <$button>Field To Tag
> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as 
>> name of a tag.
>> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
>> value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value 
>> "Ringo".
>> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to 
>> the string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
>> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
>> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as 
>> "Ringo".
>> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular 
>> field as tag...
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Add/Remove Tags from Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread Uwe
Hm, I'm wondering, why this code doesn't work at tiddlywiki.com.
Greetings,

Uwe


>> \define myactions()
>> <$fieldmangler>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="OldTopics"/>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Topics">
>> 
>> \end
>> \define makeOld()
>> Add <> Remove <>
>> <$button actions=<>>{{$:/core/images/erase}}
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread Arlen Beiler
So if one ip address is bound, does that render 0.0.0.0 inoperative, or
does it just listen on all the others, I wonder.

You should try searching this online, because it's probably a pretty common
thing.

Arlen

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 18:23  wrote:

> don't know where you got the idea of 0.0.0.0 from - that this wrong anway.
> This address generally means "All network interfaces on this host" - not
> what you mean.  This is not really an IP address and more of a placeholder
> for certain configuration files.
>
> the address - 127.0.0.1 however is defined in /etc/hosts as the "loopback"
> address - meaning it is a real (but fake) network interface addressable
> from that machine only.
>
> --Fabl
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:19:20 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It might be a linux thing. I'm getting the same thing when trying to run
>> with 0.0.0.0 (port 8080) on Linux desktop. It runs ok with 127.0.0.1:8080
>> and 192.168.1.100:8080. but gives the EADDRINUSE error for 0.0.0.0. I
>> was able to run 0.0.0.0 on the same machine under Windows.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the same error. Interesting. I wonder if I should add a feature to
>>> try to bind to all available addresses.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 13:09 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did try different ports, though I didn't have the presence of mind to
 write them down. I remember picking something like 3030 which was unlikely
 to be in use. What port have you used with 0.0.0.0 successfully?

 Thanks!
 -- Mark

 On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Usually that error is Address+Port specific. Did you try using a
> different port?
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't use the command line arguments -- I just adjusted
>> settings.json. The problem is that it generates an EADDRINUSE error if 
>> you
>> use 0.0.0.0. Or at least on mine. Does it work differently on your set 
>> up?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:40:43 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> It only allows two command line arguments after the script file
>>> (e.g. tiddlywiki.js), but there are several ways to get around that,
>>> including editing tiddlywiki.js to add the server command arguments if 
>>> the
>>> server command is specified. This makes it a lot easier to load a lot of
>>> data folders with the same options.
>>>
>>> TiddlyServer normally only needs a settings.json file anyway if it
>>> isn't in the install directory, so no problem there.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I got dory with tiddly server working with my 6 year old Samsung
 tablet. It won't run 0.0.0.0 -- claims a EADDRINUSE error. But if I 
 look up
 the IP and feed that in then other devices can access it. And it 
 actually
 seems as fast as connecting to the desktop server and maybe faster -- 
 both
 than the desktop and local files mode (so far only tested single-file
 instances). Device-to-device communication was slow, but there might be
 something going on with my also ancient phone.

 -- Mark

 On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 12:04:29 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.tempage.dorynode
>
> I haven't looked into this much but I thought I would let everyone
> know. This looks a lot simpler than termux but I haven't checked out
> everything yet.
>
> It's an app that lets you run JavaScript. It runs TiddlyServer so
> it should also run TiddlyWiki. I'll explore it more later.
>
> Enjoy!
> Arlen
>
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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

I don't much about the edit template, but apart from typing John :-), I 
can't think of any other solution.
Having taken a quick look at $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags which is the part 
of the edit template which deals with tags, ant at the tag-picker macro 
($:/core/macros/tag-picker), I don't think they allow what you want to do.

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 16:52:47 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> I'll try to explain it again:
>
> Let say we have two tiddlers. One tiddler with a *field *named "field1" 
> and it has value "John" and the another (second tiddler) tiddler has the 
> same field "field1" but with enother value "Ringo".
> What should I type into area marked with red circle?
>
>
> 
>
> In order to get the following result:
>
>
> 
> When "John" not hard coded as tag but it parametric value of "field1" 
> field.
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:59:56 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But maybe 
>> I misunderstood your question.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>>
>>> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
>>> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
>>> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:

 Hi,

 Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
 Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).

 Add this code inside the tiddler :

 <$button>Field To Tag
 <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
 <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
 
 



 Regards

 FrD

 Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> Hello
>
> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name 
> of a tag.
> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
> value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value 
> "Ringo".
> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
> string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as 
> "Ringo".
> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular 
> field as tag...
>


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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote:
>
> Reminiscent of the Mr. Bean goes to the dentist episode.
>

Bean's dental encounter was more about "Re-making The Self": 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NSM_EHmuw 

The "Head First" series of books will have inanimate objects interviewing 
> inanimate objects. So, it has been done.
>

Everything has been done you know about :-).

J, x 

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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Reminiscent of the Mr. Bean goes to the dentist episode.

The "Head First" series of books will have inanimate objects interviewing 
inanimate objects. So, it has been done.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 8:22:53 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> "I am not an animal. I am a human being." 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uL1Ll6lRoM
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> You shouldn't anthropomorphize things. They hate it when you do that.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
"I am not an animal. I am a human being." 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uL1Ll6lRoM

Mark S. wrote:
>
> You shouldn't anthropomorphize things. They hate it when you do that.
>

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[tw5] Re: I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You shouldn't anthropomorphize things. They hate it when you do that.


On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 1:06:08 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> One has the stupid idea of one interviewing about the formation of the 
> thing from the inside. One idea against has been the great danger that one 
> could overlook the moment recently.  But I sat down with that and felt it 
> was too expensive to think that way.
>
> One can roughly advance the idea that some here may have a lot to say that 
> could be helpful IF expanded further.
>
> I like the idea a TW can talk to a TW about what a TW is. 
>
> Could be interesting.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread Jed Carty
Tiddlywiki does not have a method for doing this. But what are you trying 
to achieve? If you already have a filed with the desired value in it you 
may be able to use the field value instead of the tag for whatever you are 
trying to do.

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
I'll try to explain it again:

Let say we have two tiddlers. One tiddler with a *field *named "field1" and 
it has value "John" and the another (second tiddler) tiddler has the same 
field "field1" but with enother value "Ringo".
What should I type into area marked with red circle?



In order to get the following result:


When "John" not hard coded as tag but it parametric value of "field1" field.


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:59:56 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But maybe I 
> misunderstood your question.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
>> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
>> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
>>> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>>>
>>> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>>>
>>> <$button>Field To Tag
>>> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
>>> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :

 Hello

 Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name 
 of a tag.
 Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
 value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
 How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
 string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
 How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
 theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
 Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular 
 field as tag...

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Transclude field value as a link

2018-08-01 Thread Jed Carty
Outside of filters, anything inside [[ and ]] is rendered as a link with 
the literal text inside being treated as the target of the link without 
substitutions because things inside the links often shouldn't be wikified. 
{{!!myfield1}} isn't changed because it is assumed to be the literal target 
of the link. Determining when to wikify things inside the link syntax would 
be a very difficult task and would come with its own set of strange and 
unexpected behaviour. It is simpler to just say that everything inside [[ 
and ]] is treated as a string literal and provide alternate methods (like 
FrD suggested) to make links with references.

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[tw5] Re: Transclude field value as a link

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
Thank you it is working!
I'll look into https://tiddlywiki.com/#LinkWidget:LinkWidget%20PrettyLinks 
...
But intuitively this solution feels a bit complicated for such elegant tool 
as TiddlyWiki .
It must be more laconic way
Isn't it possible to replace <$link to={{!!myfield1}}> expression with some 
kind of brackets?

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:57:45 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Try :
>
> <$link to={{!!myfield1}}>{{!!myfield1}}
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:49:40 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> Why following exsample doesnt works?
>> I have tiddler with field named *myfield1* that has value 22.
>> I would like to transclude / show *myfield1* value into tiddler text 
>> area as a link.
>> When I enter* [[{{!!myfield1}}]]* expression as tiddler's text it 
>> rendered as link *{{!!myfield1}}* instead of link *22* as I would expect.
>>
>> At other hand I always can assign value [[22]] to *myfield1* field. And 
>> transclude it just with *{{!!myfield1}} *expression.
>> But it not acceptable for me by some unrelated reason.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Table of contents: multiple tags?

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
My uncreative approach would be to split week 31 into Week 31/A and Week 
31/B. Otherwise I think you would have to rewrite the TOC to suppress the 
days when their month value (which you would need to add to each date) 
doesn't match the "grandparent" month.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:29:44 AM UTC-7, DemoniWaari wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a table of contents where I keep my journal. The journal is further 
> divided into months and weeks, so each month has multiple weeks under it. 
> The problem is that if I have a week which has a few days in August for 
> example (like week 31) and rest are in July, when I tag my daily tiddlers 
> with "Week 31" I get the same tiddlers under July and under August, even 
> though I'd like to just have 01.08 under August and rest of week 31 under 
> July. So this is what happens:
>
>- July
>   - Week 28
>  - 10.07
>  - 11.07
>  - ...
>  - Week 30
>  - 24.07
>  - 25.07
>  - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 30.07
>  - *01.08*
>  - August
>   - Week 31
>  - *30.07*
>  - 01.08
>   
> I'd like it to look like:
>
>
>- July
>   - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 30.07
>   - August
>   - ...
>   - Week 31
>  - 01.08
>   
> So would it be possible to use tags like "Week 31", "August" and "Week 
> 31", "July" to further specify where I want that one tiddler to reside in? 
> I am generating the ToC simply with <> 
> (I didn't write the full structure above as it feels unnecessary).
>
>

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Re: [tw5] I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I forgot to mention that the "TW to TW" idea is broadly inspired by the old 
BBC interview series "Face to Face" that was extremely insightful. For 
instance the interview with Carl Jung ... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AMu-G51yTY.  But good interviews also, of 
course, happened after. But there was a shift, generally, to "presentation 
of self" rather than "discussion of self", such that understanding the 
Other got more problematic. We need better forms to eschew that too easy. 
TW MIGHT be part of that.

Slightly on the far side
Josiah

AlexHough wrote:
>
> I'm curious, in a pleasantly confused way
>
> can you expand?
>
> Alex
>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
FrD's method works -- but the code needs to be in the tiddler and you need 
to hit the button. Auto-tagging like you describe might be interesting. But 
I can see where it might get you into problems (like a field with massive 
amounts of text).

-- Mark


<$button>Field To Tag
<$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[{!!myfield}]"/>


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:39:51 AM UTC-7, Alexei R wrote:
>
> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
>> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>>
>> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>>
>> <$button>Field To Tag
>> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
>> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name 
>>> of a tag.
>>> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
>>> value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
>>> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
>>> string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
>>> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
>>> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
>>> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular field 
>>> as tag...
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

I've tried it in https://tiddlywiki.com/ and it works for me. But maybe I 
misunderstood your question.

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:39:51 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
> Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag 
> name* input fild in tiddler editing mode?
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
>> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>>
>> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>>
>> <$button>Field To Tag
>> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
>> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name 
>>> of a tag.
>>> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has 
>>> value "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
>>> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
>>> string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
>>> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
>>> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
>>> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular field 
>>> as tag...
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Transclude field value as a link

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

Try :

<$link to={{!!myfield1}}>{{!!myfield1}}



Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 15:49:40 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> Why following exsample doesnt works?
> I have tiddler with field named *myfield1* that has value 22.
> I would like to transclude / show *myfield1* value into tiddler text area 
> as a link.
> When I enter* [[{{!!myfield1}}]]* expression as tiddler's text it 
> rendered as link *{{!!myfield1}}* instead of link *22* as I would expect.
>
> At other hand I always can assign value [[22]] to *myfield1* field. And 
> transclude it just with *{{!!myfield1}} *expression.
> But it not acceptable for me by some unrelated reason.
>

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[tw5] Transclude field value as a link

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
Why following exsample doesnt works?
I have tiddler with field named *myfield1* that has value 22.
I would like to transclude / show *myfield1* value into tiddler text area 
as a link.
When I enter* [[{{!!myfield1}}]]* expression as tiddler's text it rendered 
as link *{{!!myfield1}}* instead of link *22* as I would expect.

At other hand I always can assign value [[22]] to *myfield1* field. And 
transclude it just with *{{!!myfield1}} *expression.
But it not acceptable for me by some unrelated reason.

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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
I'v just tryed it doesn't work for me :-(
Isn't a simple way to just type somthing like {{!!myfield}}> into *tag name* 
input 
fild in tiddler editing mode?

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:15:38 PM UTC+3, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
> Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).
>
> Add this code inside the tiddler :
>
> <$button>Field To Tag
> <$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
> <$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name of 
>> a tag.
>> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has value 
>> "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
>> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
>> string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
>> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
>> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
>> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular field 
>> as tag...
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

Create a tiddler. Add a field ("myfield" for the code below to work). 
Assign a value to this field (even with white spaces).

Add this code inside the tiddler :

<$button>Field To Tag
<$set name="myfieldvalue" value={{!!myfield}}>
<$action-listops $field="tags" $subfilter="[]"/>





Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 14:28:25 UTC+2, Alexei R a écrit :
>
> Hello
>
> Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name of 
> a tag.
> Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has value 
> "John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
> How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
> string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
> How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of 
> theyer own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
> Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular field 
> as tag...
>

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Re: [tw5] I think it might work to have an interview series ... "TW to TW"

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Alex

I'm not fully sure myself what I meant.

I do sense an emerging trend with TW that is getting closer to "practical 
sharing". Though the idea of "sharing" TW (multi-user potential) per se 
interests me less than the lure of  "exploratory conversation" in TW--i.e. 
not just Q & A. Rather conversation with lateral branching too. 

A major weakness of many discussion systems that exist now on the web is 
that the medium over-shapes the message (standard threading, for instance). 
But human communication is simultaneously branching and mutli-lateral when 
its allowed to be. But one needs a "form" to assert it, show its excellence 
and help it fruit.

Something like that. 

Josiah

AlexHough wrote:
>
> I'm curious, in a pleasantly confused way
>
> can you expand?
>
> Alex
>

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[tw5] How to assign a field value as a tag name

2018-08-01 Thread Alexei R
Hello

Please help me to understend how can I assign value of a field as name of a 
tag.
Let say we have one tiddler with *field *named "field1" and it has value 
"John" and the second has the same field "field1" with value "Ringo".
How can I get the tiddler to be taged as "John" by refferensing to the 
string "John" by field name (in our case "field1") only?
How can I get both tiddlers to automaticly been tagged with value of theyer 
own field "field1": tiddler on as "John" and tiddler two as "Ringo".
Some how I need to make tiddler to display value of its particular field as 
tag...

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[tw5] Re: Template for set field?

2018-08-01 Thread Ste Wilson
Thanks for the response. 
It looks spot on! 
Thank you! 

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[tw5] Table of contents: multiple tags?

2018-08-01 Thread DemoniWaari
Hi,

I have a table of contents where I keep my journal. The journal is further 
divided into months and weeks, so each month has multiple weeks under it. 
The problem is that if I have a week which has a few days in August for 
example (like week 31) and rest are in July, when I tag my daily tiddlers 
with "Week 31" I get the same tiddlers under July and under August, even 
though I'd like to just have 01.08 under August and rest of week 31 under 
July. So this is what happens:

   - July
  - Week 28
 - 10.07
 - 11.07
 - ...
 - Week 30
 - 24.07
 - 25.07
 - ...
  - Week 31
 - 30.07
 - *01.08*
 - August
  - Week 31
 - *30.07*
 - 01.08
  
I'd like it to look like:


   - July
  - ...
  - Week 31
 - 30.07
  - August
  - ...
  - Week 31
 - 01.08
  
So would it be possible to use tags like "Week 31", "August" and "Week 31", 
"July" to further specify where I want that one tiddler to reside in? I am 
generating the ToC simply with <> (I 
didn't write the full structure above as it feels unnecessary).

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Re: [tw5] Re: Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

2018-08-01 Thread questorian
don't know where you got the idea of 0.0.0.0 from - that this wrong anway. 
This address generally means "All network interfaces on this host" - not 
what you mean.  This is not really an IP address and more of a placeholder 
for certain configuration files.

the address - 127.0.0.1 however is defined in /etc/hosts as the "loopback" 
address - meaning it is a real (but fake) network interface addressable 
from that machine only.

--Fabl



On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:19:20 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It might be a linux thing. I'm getting the same thing when trying to run 
> with 0.0.0.0 (port 8080) on Linux desktop. It runs ok with 127.0.0.1:8080 
> and 192.168.1.100:8080. but gives the EADDRINUSE error for 0.0.0.0. I was 
> able to run 0.0.0.0 on the same machine under Windows.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> I get the same error. Interesting. I wonder if I should add a feature to 
>> try to bind to all available addresses.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 13:09 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did try different ports, though I didn't have the presence of mind to 
>>> write them down. I remember picking something like 3030 which was unlikely 
>>> to be in use. What port have you used with 0.0.0.0 successfully?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 Usually that error is Address+Port specific. Did you try using a 
 different port?

 On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I didn't use the command line arguments -- I just adjusted 
> settings.json. The problem is that it generates an EADDRINUSE error if 
> you 
> use 0.0.0.0. Or at least on mine. Does it work differently on your set up?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark 
>
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 12:40:43 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> It only allows two command line arguments after the script file (e.g. 
>> tiddlywiki.js), but there are several ways to get around that, including 
>> editing tiddlywiki.js to add the server command arguments if the server 
>> command is specified. This makes it a lot easier to load a lot of data 
>> folders with the same options.
>>
>> TiddlyServer normally only needs a settings.json file anyway if it 
>> isn't in the install directory, so no problem there.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I got dory with tiddly server working with my 6 year old Samsung 
>>> tablet. It won't run 0.0.0.0 -- claims a EADDRINUSE error. But if I 
>>> look up 
>>> the IP and feed that in then other devices can access it. And it 
>>> actually 
>>> seems as fast as connecting to the desktop server and maybe faster -- 
>>> both 
>>> than the desktop and local files mode (so far only tested single-file 
>>> instances). Device-to-device communication was slow, but there might be 
>>> something going on with my also ancient phone.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 12:04:29 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 Dory - NodeJS / JavaScript

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.tempage.dorynode

 I haven't looked into this much but I thought I would let everyone 
 know. This looks a lot simpler than termux but I haven't checked out 
 everything yet. 

 It's an app that lets you run JavaScript. It runs TiddlyServer so 
 it should also run TiddlyWiki. I'll explore it more later.

 Enjoy!
 Arlen

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[tw5] Re: Transclude the Whole Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
Thank you FrD!

I think I found the problem. My other tiddler with $:/tags/ViewTemplate has 
a code to show something for tiddlers tagged for example with slide!
When I transclude a tiddler tagged with slide using 

$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate

It seems the host tiddler is assumed not the transcluded one! I mean the 
code is run for the host tiddler not the transcluded one tagged with slide.

Mohammad


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:35:51 PM UTC+4:30, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Well that's strange ! If you look at the code of $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate 
> you can see this near the end :
>
> <$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>
>
> It seems the <$list> loop runs through all tiddlers tagged 
> $:/tags/Viewtemplate.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:55:44 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>> That's quite true! Still there is a small problem!
>>
>> Those setting contents come from tiddlers tagged with 
>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate are missing in this transclusion!
>> I mean you may apply settings or produce contents inside a tiddler tagged 
>> with $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>>
>> *Mohammad*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:15:28 PM UTC+4:30, FrD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think Mark S. already answered your question in the thread about 
>>> thumbnails : use 
>>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate
>>> when transcluding
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/U6SYjXhtAgAJ
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:23:31 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :


 In another post 
 I 
 asked for thumbnail image of tiddler. In that post I encountered the issue 
 to transclude a tiddler as a whole, that means a snapshot of tiddler 
 trancluded, this include Tiddler text + title and what ever is shown in 
 the 
 original tiddler and also those contents come from customized ViewTemplate!

 How this is possible?

 Mark S: One solution is to get everything from tiddler and using CSS 
 make a copy where we want the transclusion, but this seems impractical!
 Ton: Other solution was to use Cecily theme!
 Eric: Use transformation

 More discussion: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/CSzrKq1LAgAJ

 Because I thought this can be of interest for other people I put the 
 question in a separate post! I appreciate other solutions if any!



 /Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Editor toolbar icon centering?

2018-08-01 Thread DemoniWaari
Hi,

I have made an icon for a button that wraps a command around 
angle-brackets. I have also made an SVG icon for i. Unfortuately, I cannot 
understand why it is not centered properly! Here is the code for the SVG. 
As far as I can see it is exactly the same as for the linkify and 
transcludify buttons (except for the path obviously) and yet it keeps being 
aligned at the top of the icon box instead at the middle where I want it. I 
can sort of go around it by adjusting the viewBox slighly but I don't like 
it.

What am I doing wrong here?




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[tw5] Re: Template for set field?

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

I made a test.
I create a tiddler named "test a" containing :

enter text : <$edit-text tiddler="test b" field="input"/>

In a tiddler called "test b" I put the following code :

\define concatlatexfield() $${{!!input}}$$

\define actions()
<$wikify name="latextext" text=<>>
<$action-setfield inputlatex=<>/>

\end

<$button actions=<>>to latex

input : <$view field="input"/>

inputlatex : <$view field="inputlatex"/>

The content of the field "inputlatex" seems OK. Is that what you want ?

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 10:09:49 UTC+2, Ste Wilson a écrit :
>
> Bump... 
> How can I use the set field widget to put user entered text into $$text 
> here$$ without the user having to do it manualy? 

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[tw5] Re: Template for set field?

2018-08-01 Thread Ste Wilson
Bump... 
How can I use the set field widget to put user entered text into $$text here$$ 
without the user having to do it manualy? 

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[tw5] Re: Transclude the Whole Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

Well that's strange ! If you look at the code of $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate 
you can see this near the end :

<$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>

It seems the <$list> loop runs through all tiddlers tagged 
$:/tags/Viewtemplate.

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:55:44 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> That's quite true! Still there is a small problem!
>
> Those setting contents come from tiddlers tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
> are missing in this transclusion!
> I mean you may apply settings or produce contents inside a tiddler tagged 
> with $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>
> *Mohammad*
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:15:28 PM UTC+4:30, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think Mark S. already answered your question in the thread about 
>> thumbnails : use 
>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate
>> when transcluding
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/U6SYjXhtAgAJ
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:23:31 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> In another post 
>>> I 
>>> asked for thumbnail image of tiddler. In that post I encountered the issue 
>>> to transclude a tiddler as a whole, that means a snapshot of tiddler 
>>> trancluded, this include Tiddler text + title and what ever is shown in the 
>>> original tiddler and also those contents come from customized ViewTemplate!
>>>
>>> How this is possible?
>>>
>>> Mark S: One solution is to get everything from tiddler and using CSS 
>>> make a copy where we want the transclusion, but this seems impractical!
>>> Ton: Other solution was to use Cecily theme!
>>> Eric: Use transformation
>>>
>>> More discussion: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/CSzrKq1LAgAJ
>>>
>>> Because I thought this can be of interest for other people I put the 
>>> question in a separate post! I appreciate other solutions if any!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> /Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Transclude the Whole Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
That's quite true! Still there is a small problem!

Those setting contents come from tiddlers tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
are missing in this transclusion!
I mean you may apply settings or produce contents inside a tiddler tagged 
with $:/tags/ViewTemplate

*Mohammad*



On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:15:28 PM UTC+4:30, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think Mark S. already answered your question in the thread about 
> thumbnails : use 
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate
> when transcluding
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/U6SYjXhtAgAJ
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:23:31 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>>
>> In another post 
>> I 
>> asked for thumbnail image of tiddler. In that post I encountered the issue 
>> to transclude a tiddler as a whole, that means a snapshot of tiddler 
>> trancluded, this include Tiddler text + title and what ever is shown in the 
>> original tiddler and also those contents come from customized ViewTemplate!
>>
>> How this is possible?
>>
>> Mark S: One solution is to get everything from tiddler and using CSS make 
>> a copy where we want the transclusion, but this seems impractical!
>> Ton: Other solution was to use Cecily theme!
>> Eric: Use transformation
>>
>> More discussion: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/CSzrKq1LAgAJ
>>
>> Because I thought this can be of interest for other people I put the 
>> question in a separate post! I appreciate other solutions if any!
>>
>>
>>
>> /Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Transclude the Whole Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread FrD
Hi,

I think Mark S. already answered your question in the thread about 
thumbnails : use 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate
when transcluding

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/U6SYjXhtAgAJ

Regards

FrD

Le mercredi 1 août 2018 09:23:31 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>
>
> In another post 
> I 
> asked for thumbnail image of tiddler. In that post I encountered the issue 
> to transclude a tiddler as a whole, that means a snapshot of tiddler 
> trancluded, this include Tiddler text + title and what ever is shown in the 
> original tiddler and also those contents come from customized ViewTemplate!
>
> How this is possible?
>
> Mark S: One solution is to get everything from tiddler and using CSS make 
> a copy where we want the transclusion, but this seems impractical!
> Ton: Other solution was to use Cecily theme!
> Eric: Use transformation
>
> More discussion: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/CSzrKq1LAgAJ
>
> Because I thought this can be of interest for other people I put the 
> question in a separate post! I appreciate other solutions if any!
>
>
>
> /Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Transclude the Whole Tiddler

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad

In another post 
I 
asked for thumbnail image of tiddler. In that post I encountered the issue 
to transclude a tiddler as a whole, that means a snapshot of tiddler 
trancluded, this include Tiddler text + title and what ever is shown in the 
original tiddler and also those contents come from customized ViewTemplate!

How this is possible?

Mark S: One solution is to get everything from tiddler and using CSS make a 
copy where we want the transclusion, but this seems impractical!
Ton: Other solution was to use Cecily theme!
Eric: Use transformation

More 
discussion: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J7_Ne9_uy3E/CSzrKq1LAgAJ

Because I thought this can be of interest for other people I put the 
question in a separate post! I appreciate other solutions if any!



/Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
One more question:

Does this code also scale images embedded inside tiddlers or I have to have 
another CSS to do that?

 .scale25 { display:block; transform:scale(0.25); transform-origin:top 
left; }  


*Mohammad*

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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

2018-08-01 Thread Mohammad
Hello Eric,
 Thank you for your solution! I need to adjust the value, but seems it is 
working!

By the way, how I can transclude a tiddler in the below code, If I want to 
have a snapshot of tiddler. I mean here I want to show the tiddler with its 
all contents and properties like (title/subtitle,text, original format, ...)
I wish to have an exact snapshot!

@@.scale25 <$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]"> <$transclude />   
@@

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