[tw5] Talk Tiddlywiki Tips and Tricks

[Mohammad Rahmani]

For those who recently joined or hesitant to join Talk Tiddlywiki (
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/) I would recommend reading this Tips and Trick

https://blog.discourse.org/2016/12/discourse-new-user-tips-and-tricks/


For a smoother transition from Google group to Talk Tiddlywiki (
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/)


Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: How to make the web bookmark like notion?

[TW Tones]

imleg,

If I follow the links to https://github.com/akhater/TiddlyWiki-EasyBookmark 
it suggests you need to key an API key, did you?

There is talk of something similar in discourse (Reference unavailable), 
other words may be "preview"

Tones

On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 20:23:56 UTC+10 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> What insert the url link into the tiddler, and the url will become a small 
> preview of the web site just like the notion web bookmark. How to make it? 
>
> https://github.com/akhater/TiddlyWiki-EasyBookmark
>
> I found this link. But after I follow the step noting happens.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki discussion forum: a thought about choice of forum

[TW Tones]

Cj,

I think something like this would be a good idea. Perhaps something 
discussed in Discourse that creates Discourse posts from a tiddler could be 
setup in a dedicated category for this, and with the first post being a 
Wiki type post so we can accrue documentation and examples over time. With 
the thread itself a permanent conversation about that documentation tiddler.

Tones

On Wednesday, 1 September 2021 at 00:40:38 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> With all the talk about TiddlyTalk and longterm discussions about Google 
> Drive, I just had this thought.
>
> It would be pretty cool if documentation Tiddlers at TiddlyWiki.com (or 
> wherever) could have, in the footers of those tiddlers, embedded iFrame of 
> related discussion topics from the forum showing "right there."
>
> So if, for example, I'm looking at the "addprefix Operator", I could see 
> possibly relevant discussions about that in the forum, right there (at my 
> fingertips) as part of documentation related to that filter operator.
>
> I suppose things could be curated somehow.  Maybe discussion threads could 
> be tagged such that relevant discussions would show for a particular 
> tiddler.  So only threads with the "addprefix" tag would show for that 
> tiddler, with maybe a check box that, when checked, gets any discussion 
> with the word "addprefix" anywhere in the discussion.
>
> Yeah, I dream fully integrated, intertwined, intermingled, intertwingled.
>
> I've only played around a little bit with this concept in Google Sites, 
> embedding Google Group instances in various Google Site pages to view 
> discussion related to a particular page's topic.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: List sort by count field operator

[A Gloom]

Thank you Mohammad.  I looked at Jim's tiddlers and your script in TW 
official and went back and pasted your script into my wiki for another try 
with the bare minimum of alterations and it worked.  I must had typoed 
during the first attempt.  But now I have it working.

Jim, very nice Hobbitology you created, others who create fantasy/ttRPG 
wikis should look at it.  Also, this count script will work great for 
ranking by stats, achievements, etc-- ie leaderboards.

Soren, thank you and sorry I didn't get to putting up something for you to 
work with.  But I'm collecting your back links ranking script, along with 
Mohammad's field values count ranking and a tagged count ranking I based 
off them into one thread for Mohammad to add to TWScripts.


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 1:13:02 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> A Gloom
>
> The code works with data provided by Jim and it also sorts!
> To give a try download data of Jim post above and drag and drop to 
> tiddlywiki.com
> Next in a new tiddler paste the code of my last post you will see
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 7:55 AM A Gloom  wrote:
>
>> Soren, sorry about the delay-- this something low on my list of too many 
>> things to do, so I haven't been dedicating enough time to it.  Let me 
>> export some shell tiddlers with the fields and values from the real world 
>> attempt at this issue.
>>
>> Mohammad, good to see you responding as well.  I tried your solution, it 
>> displayed the field values with counts but didn't sort them by the counts 
>> (count of fields with each value).  Playing with things-- I inserted a 
>> <> in the list so that each list result (see [1] beow) would show 
>> the criteria variable for each.  It's displaying: [tag[zz@]zztopiccount[]]  
>> **(note the " zztopiccount ", zztopic being the field name)
>> It appears that it's not applying  from the criteria 
>> $vars widget.  The entire code (yours altered to work with my tiddlers 
>> selection) I used is below [2].  It displays what is expect but not sorting.
>>
>> [1]
>> <$link/> (<$count filter="[tag[zz@AYoS]ayostopic]"/>) 
>> ::: <>
>>
>> [2]
>> <$vars criteria="[tag[zz@]zztopiccount[]]">
>> 
>> <$list filter="[tag[zz@]each[zztopic]get[zztopic]] 
>> +[!sortsub:integer]">
>> <$link/> (<$count filter="[tag[zz@]zztopic]"/>) ::: 
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 5:20:19 PM UTC-4 amreus wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad.
>>>
>>> That is brilliant!
>>>
>>> I made many attempts at a filter but never was able to get it.  The 
>>> missing piece for me is the currentTiddler in the criteria variable.  In 
>>> the context of the list, currentTiddler is the surname.  It makes sense 
>>> after I see it.  This indicates I am still not understanding macros and 
>>> variables correctly.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 4:29:58 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Ah, sorry I did not notice a sorted output was requested! This is the 
 final solution with sort capability!

 ```
 
 <$vars criteria="[all[tiddlers]surnamecount[]]">
 <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]] 
 +[!sortsub:number]">

 <$link/>(<$count 
 filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
 
 
 
 ```
 Note, this works in TW 5.1.23+



 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:58 PM amreus  wrote:

> Thank you Mohammad,
>
> I have learned much from your wikis on github.
>
> However, in your enthusiasm I think you over-looked the desire to sort 
> the names by count.  
>
> I thought I saw an old post that showed a possible way by using an 
> intermediate list, prefixing the count to the title with a delimiter, 
> sorting the list, and finally splitting the count from the title - but I 
> am 
> unable to find it using search, and also do not recall if the method 
> could 
> be applied in this case.
>
>
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:28:26 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>> Give a try with this script!
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]"> 
>> <$link/>(<$count 
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
>> 
>> 
>> You can also replace <$link/>  with <$text text=<>/>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:15 PM Jim  wrote:
>>
>>> Not OP but in my case, I'd like to generate a list of surnames 
>>> sorted by how many tiddlers share the same surname field.
>>>
>>> Output should look similar to this:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Took (26)
>>>- Brandybuck (24)
>>>- Baggins (24)
>>>- Bolger (22)
>>>- Boffin (18)
>>>- Gardner (14)
>>>- Gamgee (7)
>>>- Burrows (7)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-4 Soren 

[tw5] Re: How to use this plugin I paste the url and click create button nothing happens

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Are you still struggling with the same plugin 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/SuoXhD3XMVk/m/eJQpCT9pAgAJ ?
I followed your link and saw that there are no releases published.


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 4:40:00 PM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> As the title said I don't know how to use it.

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[tw5] Re: How to use this plugin I paste the url and click create button nothing happens

[Charlie Veniot]

Some relevant documentation just for reference:

   - 
   
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library
   - https://tiddlywiki.com/#Manually%20installing%20a%20plugin


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 11:40:00 AM UTC-3 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> As the title said I don't know how to use it.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

A killing feature https://talk.tiddlywiki.org has is ability to post to
Talk forum directly from your Tiddlywiki.

*See the solution here!*
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/admin-what-about-posting-to-discourse-via-url/410/6


Thank you to @TiddlyTweeter  , @BurningTreeC
and @Sii

Are still hesitant to try https://talk.tiddlywiki.org and perhaps move to
it!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> More features
>
> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>
> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>
> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to use this plugin I paste the url and click create button nothing happens

[PMario]

Hi,
If you could be more specific, what "this plugin" is, we would probably be 
able to help you.
-m

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki discussion forum: a thought about choice of forum

[Charlie Veniot]

With all the talk about TiddlyTalk and longterm discussions about Google 
Drive, I just had this thought.

It would be pretty cool if documentation Tiddlers at TiddlyWiki.com (or 
wherever) could have, in the footers of those tiddlers, embedded iFrame of 
related discussion topics from the forum showing "right there."

So if, for example, I'm looking at the "addprefix Operator", I could see 
possibly relevant discussions about that in the forum, right there (at my 
fingertips) as part of documentation related to that filter operator.

I suppose things could be curated somehow.  Maybe discussion threads could 
be tagged such that relevant discussions would show for a particular 
tiddler.  So only threads with the "addprefix" tag would show for that 
tiddler, with maybe a check box that, when checked, gets any discussion 
with the word "addprefix" anywhere in the discussion.

Yeah, I dream fully integrated, intertwined, intermingled, intertwingled.

I've only played around a little bit with this concept in Google Sites, 
embedding Google Group instances in various Google Site pages to view 
discussion related to a particular page's topic.

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[tw5] How to use this plugin I paste the url and click create button nothing happens

[imleg...@gmail.com]

As the title said I don't know how to use it.

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[tw5] Re: How to make the web bookmark like notion?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Maybe you can find some help in an earlier discussion here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/pr42e29nwU8 
To be honest I did not even know something like this existed. I am using 
Tiddlyclip http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/ go to github for the browser 
extension https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 12:23:56 PM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> What insert the url link into the tiddler, and the url will become a small 
> preview of the web site just like the notion web bookmark. How to make it? 
>
> https://github.com/akhater/TiddlyWiki-EasyBookmark
>
> I found this link. But after I follow the step noting happens.
>
>
>

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[tw5] How to make the web bookmark like notion?

[imleg...@gmail.com]

What insert the url link into the tiddler, and the url will become a small 
preview of the web site just like the notion web bookmark. How to make it? 

https://github.com/akhater/TiddlyWiki-EasyBookmark

I found this link. But after I follow the step noting happens.


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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

['Werner' via TiddlyWiki]

Same here, also notoriously late to the show. Also just created an account 
on talk.tiddlywiki.org. Can only get better than GG.

Kind regards
Werner

j.te...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 29. August 2021 um 22:58:07 UTC+2:

> Hello all,
>
> As always, late to the party. Seems lots has happened while I was away.
> Good to hear an alternative to Google Groups in underway.
>
> Just signed up in: talk.tiddlywiki.org
>
> Stay safe, stay healthy everyone.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julio
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:35:23 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>>
>> It is truly amazing given what you have gone through that you are here 
>> and keeping an interest and sharing your story. I believe strongly that 
>> TiddlyWiki is a tool towards democratising software for every one with 
>> different skills, ability, experience, capacities in different areas. If it 
>> is what I believe it to be, it must be able to support all our needs small 
>> or large. Everyone of our community members especially with different needs 
>> are valuable participants, because without you all we cant be exposed to 
>> the issues that arise, and our communities capacity diminishes.
>>
>> If we play our cards right tiddlywiki will enable far more than average 
>> Joes.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Tony
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 16:18:17 UTC+10 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> I honestly didn't read your reply as a complaint but thought mine may 
>>> have sounded that way or offended someone. Misunderstandings and confusion 
>>> are now a cloud that surrounds not only me but all those who dare try to 
>>> interpret what I am attempting to express as well LOL and a good reason to 
>>> keep that picture handy! Anyway, after looking at discourse (I hadn't even 
>>> peeked) and seeing I can go there and find out what is happening from time 
>>> to time without even setting up an account and knowing Jeremy is behind 
>>> this, I see nothing to worry about. I like sticking to the core and 
>>> avoiding addons as much as possible anyway. 
>>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy for letting me know what's happening and you are behind 
>>> this. I am so sorry to hear you had to deal with this bug! We do not want 
>>> you in my shape, get or stay well whichever best applies! 
>>>
>>> So, If it helps? I have been pretty much just lurking since 2014 when 
>>> all this stuff happened to me anyway and regretfully right in the middle of 
>>> a group effort with many here to build an add on for TW5 that would fulfill 
>>> a very specific need in education and I see has now been done ( a moodle 
>>> extension using scorm or whatever they are calling it now)! I am so happy 
>>> to see that but feel I had to let down many and regretfully it's of little 
>>> use to me now (no longer able to teach). The purpose I had was to use on 
>>> very limited tablets, in correctional (prison) systems, to get around the 
>>> fact that they had no internet access, only a browser for email, but with 
>>> TW5 would be able to pull and receive data from a learning 
>>> management server on site which I had already established, allowing 
>>> the teacher and student to track progress etc. I do appreciate and 
>>> apologize to all here that were in that group when this happened; it did 
>>> present capabilities far beyond my use in a greater educational role as 
>>> well and we were all very excited about it at the time. My stroke and brain 
>>> tumor came out of nowhere (I can't even remember if I was able to let 
>>> anyone here know about it). My first surgery I came out OK but not right, 
>>> requiring a second that really did some damage but I am one of a very few 
>>> who have survived everything that happened to me I am told. I am still in a 
>>> fight trying to recover memories, and some of the very basic abilities I 
>>> had before like simply playing my guitar for relaxation (I was a 
>>> professional musician for decades before teaching full time). Administering 
>>> a network much less teaching others to do so is definitely never going to 
>>> be an option again (or working for that matter the cloud of confusion is 
>>> very real. Cognitive abilities tested and with everything else surrounding 
>>> this I am no longer able to work in any setting. I am now on 
>>> full disability just trying to write this is taking an eternity). We had an 
>>> awesome team but it serves as a great example of why not to get married to 
>>> any platform including Goole. Perhaps if our GG here can be exported that 
>>> would be wise? We were using something I think G+ or Google+ but whatever 
>>> it was is now gone and all that was communicated within it. I would hate to 
>>> see that happen here regardless of platform and know you guys 
>>> definitely know what's going on now better than I do.
>>>
>>> I read these condensed email updates weekly and then only occasionally 
>>> the full threads within them when I think there might be something I need 
>>> to know or I can use. I 

[tw5] Re: Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

[R²]

Hi there,

Reviving this thread to point out 
that https://github.com/MaxGyver83/tw5-keyboard-navigation works really 
well. The shorcuts are hardcoded but apart from that, it's great. Now only 
missing the "Close other tiddlers" ("all but FocusTiddler") action!

Best,
R²

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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[PMario]

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:32:26 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".
>>
>> *BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). *
>>
>
> Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)
>
>>
>> I'm  Reviewing The Situation 
>>  with my on-line name for 
>> Discourse. :-)
>>
>
> Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!
>

I think. "Talk" may be enough too ;)
-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

That is very generous of you! Thank you!

TT

On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 08:32:26 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:00 AM TiddlyTweeter  
> wrote:
>
>> Ciao Mohammad
>
>
> Hello Jociah,
>
>  
>
>>
>> A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".
>>
>> *BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). *
>>
>
> Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)
>
>>
>> I'm  Reviewing The Situation 
>>  with my on-line name for 
>> Discourse. :-)
>>
>
> Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!
>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 06:37:25 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> One nice feature of TT (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it has syntax 
>>> highlighting and it knows code blocks!
>>> I can simply copy codes bysing the handy button top right of code block 
>>> and paste in my Tiddlywiki!
>>>
>>> For example see 
>>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-list-sort-by-count-field-operator/366/7
>>>
>>> Thank you TT! You made life easier!
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:
>>>
 More features

 *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *

 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
 3. allows me to reply privately to author
 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
 6. display the summary of page if I put a link

 talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!  

 On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:

> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ 
> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>
>
>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified 
>what is going on Google Forum
>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very 
>good feature I frequently need)
>4. it supports pinig other users
>5. it support code block
>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>
>
> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:00 AM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao Mohammad


Hello Jociah,



>
> A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".
>
> *BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). *
>

Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)

>
> I'm  Reviewing The Situation 
> with my on-line name for Discourse. :-)
>

Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!

>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 06:37:25 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> One nice feature of TT (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it has syntax
>> highlighting and it knows code blocks!
>> I can simply copy codes bysing the handy button top right of code block
>> and paste in my Tiddlywiki!
>>
>> For example see
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-list-sort-by-count-field-operator/366/7
>>
>> Thank you TT! You made life easier!
>>
>






>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:
>>
>>> More features
>>>
>>> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>>>
>>> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
>>> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
>>> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
>>> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
>>> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
>>> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>>>
>>> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
 ) instead of Google Forum?*


1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
what is going on Google Forum
2. it allows previewing your post before sending
3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very
good feature I frequently need)
4. it supports pinig other users
5. it support code block
6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter


 Please complete this list with features I missed!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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