Re: [tw5] Re: Demo: Proposal for slight visual changes to getting started tiddler

[Birthe C]

Riz,

I think it is because every discussion has had a tendency to mix the plugin 
with the exe version of Bob.
I also think I might not have been the only one having problems with some 
of the latest versions. The last version is very good, lots of good 
explanations. Still Jed might be overwhelmed with support questions. Just 
some thoughts.

My Favourites are Firefox with Timimi, BobExe and Tiddlyspot.

Birthe


torsdag den 7. maj 2020 kl. 07.04.00 UTC+2 skrev Riz:

> Ain't nobody gonna tell me why Bob is not there with savers? Is there a 
> particular reason? Or did the community collectively forgot to put it there 
> because everyone knows Bob already. It would be amusing of the reason is 
> that. Makes us wonder what other thing we all take for common knowledge is 
> missing from documentation.

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[tw5] Re: The MESS of knowing what is what ... GG is poison ...

[Birthe C]

TT,

I am a simpleton. I use a dedicated tiddlywiki, open i the browser tab next 
to the one I use to read the Google Group. Then I bookmark the things I 
find interesting right now in that TW. But of course I do not always read 
everything or do not really have the interest for a special matter right at 
THAT point.
Often I use Tiddlyclip for that. Fast and the bookmark tagged as I know 
will fit in my wiki.


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[tw5] Re: How can I insert a timestamp as "text" ?

[Birthe C]

Riz button for the editor toolbar perhaps? 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/UHt6GsMpyAQ/USFJxw68AQAJ


onsdag den 6. maj 2020 kl. 19.45.21 UTC+2 skrev Tony K:
>
> Assuming I am writing a Tiddler and I would like to add to it a timestamp, 
> if I use the <> the issue is that it will be evaluated everytime the 
> tiddler is loaded 
>
> How can I insert the current timestamp and then let it sit there and be 
> static?
>
> thank you 
>

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[tw5] Re: [plugin] Project-Manager & Notebook theme updates

[Birthe C]

Hi Odin Jorna,

I found that a little confusing too. I saw that open, recent etc had the 
tag: $:/plugins/nico/notebook/tags/SidebarSection, so I used that for my 
table of contents.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Web Clipper equivalent

[Birthe C]

The only one I know of is Tiddlyclip 

 Install the plugin from there and read about how to use it, but to make it 
work you need to install a browser extension too. Get that here: 
https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases

Look at the first link about how the rules are created. You might create 
your own.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Reviving TiddlyWiki Hangouts

[Birthe C]

Hi Saq,

It was highly interesting. I love your two story and have in fact been 
using it since you shared the one with the drag and drop zone some time ago.
I would also like to see Dave Gifford telling us about Stroll.

Birthe


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Re: [tw5] Reviving TiddlyWiki Hangouts

[Birthe C]

I actually found the subtitles rather good. Just not for Tiddlywiki 5 
(Ricky lie] or tiddlers (Hitlers] were only some of the suggestions. 
I just found that we are able to set the playing speed. 

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

You do not get the point. You may not have needed the tiddlers, I did to 
know what was going on.
I am very bad at guessing, you see.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

David,

Exactly!
Putting wiki on tiddlyspot for questioning we need the necessary tiddlers 
to test.
I had to drag a lot of tiddlers to Peters tiddlyspot to test it.

Peter,
You referring to have it working in a local file does not help anyone 
trying to test, what could be the reason for your problems.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

It is David's button. Find it here 

 
. I just edited it.

tag: $:/tags/ViewToolbar

\define button()
<$button class=<> actions=<>tooltip="New 
tiddler linked to this one">
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}

\end

\define actions()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
text="""[[$(tid)$]]<$transclude tiddler="$(tid)$" mode="block"/>"""/>
\end

<$wikify name=tid text=<>>
<>

<$list filter="[match[yes]]">

<$text text="New tiddler linked to this one"}}/>

caption field: 
{{$:/core/images/new-button}} New tiddler linked to this one

description field:
{{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournalHere/Hint}}{{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/
Hint}}


tirsdag den 5. maj 2020 kl. 12.19.10 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Birthe, that's an interesting one. Can you point me to it?
>
>
> 5 May 2020, 12:35 by strikk...@gmail.com :
>
> Peter,
>
> If you used Davids New-note-here button, you could edit it to do it 
> automatically, when you create your tiddler.
>
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

If you used Davids New-note-here button, you could edit it to do it 
automatically, when you create your tiddler.


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[tw5] Re: Reviving TiddlyWiki Hangouts

[Birthe C]

This is very good news.

Interesting guests has been proposed and I agree.
Please may I ask: Try not to speak too fast. I had the subtitles on and 
that did help some but not quite enough.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

For me it works fine on tiddlyspot, if I have the necessary tiddlers. I do 
need to write the link though, no link - no backlink.

Why do you expect at tooltip and a transclusion to link to anything?

Try writing:
*[[Tiddler 2]]*<$transclude 
tiddler="Tiddler 2" mode="block"/>

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

In tiddler 1 you have no links in the tiddler, you have a tooltip.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion in popups

[Birthe C]

Peter,

I do not see any popups either. Are you missing some tiddlers?

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Does that TW is a Quine matter? YES.

[Birthe C]

TT,

To be honest, it does not make me understand anything about Quine, that 
helps me. My thought went more in the direction of a grook by Piet Hein.

To make a name for learning
when other roads are barred
take something very easy
and make it very hard.

LOL.
Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Freelinks plugin

[Birthe C]

Installing a plugin from the plugin library 

  

mandag den 4. maj 2020 kl. 00.37.13 UTC+2 skrev Joseph Cosentino:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I've been using tiddlywiki for probably 4 or 5 months now and love it! I 
> just have a hopefully easy question.
>
> The release notes for 5.1.22 explicitly state that a freelinks plugin was 
> added to show links to tiddlers without CamelCase or double brackets. This 
> sounds great and I wanted to try it out, but I can't for the life of me 
> figure out how to start using it. It's not a plugin on the main tiddlywiki 
> site, like the new menubar is, nor is it listed in the official plugins 
> tiddler. I thought then it might be in settings, but couldn't find it there 
> either in the empty.html version. 
>
> I expect I'm missing something silly. Could someone point me in the right 
> direction on how to start using this plugin? 
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: List of changes proposed for documentation

[Birthe C]

Riz,

Timimi link does not work. You have written [[Timimi|Timimi: WebExtension 
and Native Host by Riz]], but the tiddler at tw.com is called: "Timimi" 
Extension and executable by Riz. I might be that that tiddler should also 
be corrected then.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Birthe C]

Mat,

I had not seen the last part of your write up. You are right some pictures 
are needed. When I first read about the tiddlers, I thought if substory 
could be used. (Maybe stupid thought - especially now that the 
documentation is growing).

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: general questions about BobExe and nodejs

[Birthe C]

Peter,
This thread is about general questions about BobExe and nodejs!

Jeds instructions are very clear. go to the link 
https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/GenericTagFields/ The first tiddler 
you see has the title "GenTags plugin" The first sentence is as follow: 
"This wiki is showing off the GenTags plugin. The plugin tiddler is here", 
where the word here is a link to the plugin.
or you can go to control panel, plugins tab and be sure to find installed 
plugins.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 17.16.12 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Stefan,
> thanks for that. That's a lot of drag/drop you did for just 1 plug-in.
> I'll do the same.
>
> Jed, you should make the instructions on your tutorial a bit clearer.
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[tw5] Re: tag dropdown slowdown - solution/discussion

[Birthe C]

Tony K,

To be honest it also took me quite a while the first time I used it. 
Rereading the instructions several times and trying to set up my own 
groups. Do start your own as adviced. It is easier when you can look at 
Eucalys original. To be it was a question of trial and error.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Notion encourages busy work

[Birthe C]

Diego,

When I read the following:

*By far the biggest gripe I have is that a tool should be a means to an end 
> and get out of the way—but with Notion building the tool often becomes the 
> end in itself.*
>

Something we could recognise?


Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: general questions about BobExe and nodejs

[Birthe C]

Sorry, Peter, you are right. Not Ooktech but Inmysocks. Still you need the 
plugin.

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 15.03.55 UTC+2 skrev Birthe C:
>
> Peter,
> The screenshot shows the plugin: $:/plugins/OokTech/GenTags. And the 
> tiddlers in the plugin. You need the plugin.
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 14.32.47 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>>
>> Jed, the plugin tid (screenshot) does not show $:/plugins/OokTech/GenTags.
>>
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>> 3 May 2020, 15:08 by inmy...@gmail.com:
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>> Stefan,
>>
>> You are using \ in the names instead of /, try using / instead.
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> You need the plugin tiddler, $:/plugins/OokTech/GenTags, just click on 
>> the link in the second sentence.
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Re: [tw5] Re: general questions about BobExe and nodejs

[Birthe C]

Peter,
The screenshot shows the plugin: $:/plugins/OokTech/GenTags. And the 
tiddlers in the plugin. You need the plugin.

Birthe

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> Stefan,
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> You are using \ in the names instead of /, try using / instead.
>
> Peter,
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> You need the plugin tiddler, $:/plugins/OokTech/GenTags, just click on the 
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[tw5] Re: How to display an alert at a predetermined time?

[Birthe C]

Thank you Thomas,

That was a very good and detailed explanation.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Birthe C]

Peter,
Well you can save a Word, Excell or Powerpoint file etc. But you have to 
run a program to do it, And also some program to use your file.
The point with TW is that it is one file with everything needed. That IS 
unusual.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 12.35.42 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> @TT
>
> For me as a TW newbie without HTML coding knowledge but with a need of 
> note-taking and knowledge management, knowing that TW is a quine (had to 
> look up the word) does NOT help me whatsoever in understanding TW. That it 
> is "one file, saving upon itself", as Birthe notes, is nothing unusual: a 
> Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Markdown, ……… file does exactly that when you 
> click on "save" after making changes.
>
> So, what is the point in pushing the quine point? If it helps you to 
> understand TW, great, but that does not necessarily apply to others.
>
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[tw5] Re: Next/Prev in Tag Set button?

[Birthe C]

TonyM,

Most of the slideshow versions use something like that. You could also look 
at Mohammads, 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-TOC/ The navigation tiddlers.

You wrote about the wish for buttons like that for Stroll. Sure but are you 
sure the wish is for tag navigation. The tiddlers are navigated through 
links mostly, The tiddlers does not necessarily have any tags in common. 
That button is also possible, but that would be navigating the 
history...and Stroll is using two stories and two histories.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Birthe C]

Hi  TT,

Please do explain? 

The thought that everything is in that one file, saving upon itself ;-), 
that we could open that file in an editor and see what ever is in it (no 
secrets). That is around the point my brain stops.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 11.11.18 UTC+2 skrev TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Mat
>
> Its certainly true that the "quine" nature if TW often inspires 
> underwhelm. I tried getting attention to it on Twitter to no avail. Even 
> with hardened readers of fringe material.
>
> So I broadly grasp it is not in your thought. Or most any other, YET.
>
> I think the issue devolves to concepts of function--do they help or not?
>
> For my kind of brain KNOWING  TW is a quine helps a lot.
>
> But that is for another thread. Yours is Good without it. A dopo.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
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[tw5] Re: tag dropdown slowdown - solution/discussion

[Birthe C]

Hi Tony K,

Maybe you would like this plugin popuptagger 
 
I do realise that it would be tagging i view mode.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 08.48.15 UTC+2 skrev Tony K:
>
> Hello Tony
>
> I want to have multiple drop down menus on the top of the edit box of a 
> tiddler. 
>
> My tags are divided into (Type: Document Code etc..) (Action: Review 
> Rename Delete) (Category: Archive...)
>
> I want to have one drop box for each so I can select my tags faster 
>
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[tw5] Re: A simple procedure to create plugins with TW+Node.JS

[Birthe C]

TonyM,

Mohammad is preparing a section in The Book by Luis on creating plugins 
using TW on Node.JS.
Other sections could be written by other if they so wish.

Mark S,

Exactly! Everything else will lead to confusing when sharing the TW. We can 
do what we want i private wikies.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 05.54.25 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.:

That is really cool. If you follow the plugin naming convention, and add 
name, description, version and list fields, you'll have a distributable 
plugin. 

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[tw5] Re: List of changes proposed for documentation

[Birthe C]

TonyM,

We have often been told, that people using Waterfox, Palemoon and other 
browsers, did use tiddlyfox. It would be good, if we knew exactly what 
other browsers to make examples in a possible rewrite.

Others are using older computers, minimal linux'es and have to find some 
usable browser for their system. Some are running totally of a USB stick.

Birthe

søndag den 3. maj 2020 kl. 03.49.50 UTC+2 skrev TonyM:
>
> To all,
>
> Does anyone really use tiddlyfox in a backdated version of the browser 
> rather than use the new superior Timimi ?
>
> The minimum reference to the apocalypse, which we recovered from, we are 
> "post apocalypse", would be wise, I am always needing to tell people about 
> Timimi because "tiddlyfox" misleads.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a TiddlyClip/TiddlySnip addon successor?

[Birthe C]

Hi Mark S,

I am using linux and firefox 75. I just tested it still works.

Birthe


lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 22.44.11 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.:
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> Hi Birthe,
>
> I'm not getting an error, but it doesn't seem to work on my Linux FF75. 
> What version of FF are you using?
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a TiddlyClip/TiddlySnip addon successor?

[Birthe C]

Did you get the extension from https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases 
? That is what I did, and it still works.
If that does not work for you, I really have no idea, sorry.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Thank you for all your patience and help, Riz.

It works now, I thought I had tried all options and combinationsbut not 
so apparently. I am so over the moon happy.
Your timimi,json and one more setting in the extension did it...(language 
can be such a bother).

Sincerely,
Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Well it look like this:
Hope that is what you mean.


lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 19.40.07 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> Ok, That actually seems weird
>
> Just clarifying - you did go to Chromium menu (top-right three dots) > 
> More Tools > Extensions > Timimi > Details and check the "Allow access to 
> file URLs" option?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Right clicking the timimi icon in the browser, I saw it in the dropdown - 
no notification.
My tiddlywiki file is in my dropbox folder: /home/lenovo/Dropbox/Birthes ny 
TW5er.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 19.21.30 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> Also about this point
>
> When I right click the icon it says I am not able to read or change 
>> website data
>>
>
> You were right clicking on the timimi icon on the toolbar? And this error 
> appeared as a notification?
> Can I also know where is the tiddlywiki.html in your harddrive? 
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Linux Mint 19.2 Tina base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic, Chromium Version 
80.0.3987.163 With Danish language.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 19.07.48 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> That is interesting. In your browser, timimi is not detecting tiddlywiki 
> at all. Which version of Chromium and Mint is this? Also you mentioned your 
> browser is in another language. Which language is it so that I may 
> replicate it in tests?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Hi Riz,

No, my TW still saves using the download saver, not timimi.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 18.55.13 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> Hi Birthe,
>
> So it is an installer issue.
>
> I am attaching a json file personalized for you. Please download it, place 
> it in the folder ".config/chromium/NativeMessagingHosts" and try saving a 
> tiddlywiki file using chromium
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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

You are explaining a the right level for me, thanks.
In /home/lenovo/.local/share/timimi I see the timimi executable file, no 
log file.
In /home/lenovo/.config/chromium/NativeMessagingHosts there is no file.

Birthe


lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 18.32.11 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> Hi Birthe
>
> So can you confirm a few things. 
>
> In your home folder, there will be a folder in the path 
> ".local/share/timimi". It will be a hidden folder obviously- which you can 
> unhide it with ctrl+h in nemo. (I feel like I am over-explaining this to a 
> Mint user, but for newbies, this info might be useful.) In that folder, 
> please confirm that there is an executable named timimi. It is also 
> possible that there is an log file in this folder - either timimi.log or 
> error.log. If there is, can you post its contents?
>
> Secondly, there is another folder under your home folder at 
> ".config/chromium/NativeMessagingHosts". In that folder, there should be a 
> file called timimi.json. Can you please post its contents here?
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz
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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

Of course I did try to save, but absolutely nothing happens. I looked if 
the extension setting were correct, but I am really not sure.
When I right click the icon it says I am not able to read or change website 
data. (oh the wonders of using a browser in another language.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 18.11.51 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
>
> It probably got installed. May be the installer quit right away. Did you 
> try saving from chromium?
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

No errors shown, sorry. I ran the installer and chose the browser and then 
nothing happened.
You describe running the installer by double clicking. I am not able to do 
that.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 18.02.29 UTC+2 skrev Riz:
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> What errors did you get for chromium install?
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Timimi extends support to Chrome, Chromium and Opera in Linux, Mac and Windows

[Birthe C]

I am really not good at explaining. I am using Linux Mint and use 2 
browsers. Firefox and Chromium. I had no problem installing timimi to 
Firefox, it works as expected. Chromium is another matter. I got the 
extension, but was not able to install the download.

Not sure how to go about it.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [doc] now in wiki format: The BIG picture

[Birthe C]

Mat,

No doubt you are right.

But I liked your way of using your sideeditor. The sections and linkedit. 
Ideally that should be a demo on http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/ 

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: [New Plugin] Plugin Size: Compare the Weight of Plugins

[Birthe C]

>From your screenshot.  undefined edit counter. I remembered that was one of 
the dependencies.

Birthe

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 11.11.01 UTC+2 skrev Petruschka:
>
> Hello Birthe C
>
> PS Was it just a guess or how did you find out (for myself to learn it the 
> next time I struggle) so fast it was a depency problem? 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a TiddlyClip/TiddlySnip addon successor?

[Birthe C]

Tiddlyclip  You should read it to make 
sure you got the link to the browser extension also, and get it installed,

lørdag den 2. maj 2020 kl. 10.59.43 UTC+2 skrev Petruschka:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I was used to use TiddlySnip (a browser addon; it let you create a Tiddler 
> from selected text from websites) extensively. After using Google search 
> here as well as anywhere else, it seems there is no successor to it. 
>
> Am I right? Thanks for any hints to a maybe existing solution. 
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [New Plugin] Plugin Size: Compare the Weight of Plugins

[Birthe C]

Petruschka,

Did you get the dependencies?


Birthe

Dependencies

This is done using the following other plugins: 

   - Editor Counter 
   
 
   to count the characters in the text field of plugin tiddlers
   - RPN  
   for number formatting
   - Harvey Balls 
    
   for size indication icons

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[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Birthe C]

Mohammad,

I think the problem is the definition of beginner. New to tiddlywiki, yes - 
but bringing different knowledge.
Look at the questions from beginners in this group. Would those questions 
be answered from a beginner tutorial?
The wish list is often, I want to do this, that and also much more, is that 
difficult and how do I do it


Birthe


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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] Project-Manager & Notebook theme updates

[Birthe C]

Mohammad,

After the fix I have no problems either.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] Project-Manager & Notebook theme updates

[Birthe C]

I think the problem has to do with screensize.
I tried to change my screen to 80% and then I see the buttons hovering - 
and they work.

Birthe

torsdag den 30. april 2020 kl. 13.53.44 UTC+2 skrev Birthe C:
>
> Well hovering the tiddler controls works well enough and I can open and 
> edit a tiddler. Then I click the top left button Toggle menu, and now no 
> tiddler controls are shown hovering and I am not able to open and edit a 
> tiddler.
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] Project-Manager & Notebook theme updates

[Birthe C]

Well hovering the tiddler controls works well enough and I can open and 
edit a tiddler. Then I click the top left button Toggle menu, and now no 
tiddler controls are shown hovering and I am not able to open and edit a 
tiddler.

Birthe


torsdag den 30. april 2020 kl. 13.36.59 UTC+2 skrev Nicolas Petton:
>
> Birthe C > writes: 
>
> > Is it on purpose, that none of the tiddler buttons work, when the 
> sidebar 
> > is on? 
>
> Absolutely not, but I cannot reproduce what you're describing. Can you 
> give me steps to reproduce it? 
>
> Cheers, 
> Nico 
>

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[tw5] Re: [plugin] Project-Manager & Notebook theme updates

[Birthe C]

Thank you, Nicolas!

I love it. The Quick capture is a wonder.
I would like the sidebar to work with translation plugins though.
At my screen I had a hard time finding the menu at first. Changing screen 
angle and daylight arriving helped. 
Is it on purpose, that none of the tiddler buttons work, when the sidebar 
is on?


Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Changing from one to two stories, jump the right story, going back to one 
story, the tiddler controls change from above title to beside the title. 
The position does not matter that much - but the jumping!!!

Birthe

onsdag den 29. april 2020 kl. 21.16.28 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi Saq
>
> I think you may have uploaded the wrong file at that link. I downloaded 
> the file yesterday and only reduced the settings to 1100 so the sidear 
> would not overlap the tiddlers, but none of the things you mentioned in 
> your post are true of it except that the plugin was packaged.
>
>- The width problem between stories when the sidebar is closed is 
>still wide.
>- The divert button in edit mode separates titles with spaces and 
>sends one tiddler per word to the other story. But one does not know this 
>when diverting from right to left, because the open tiddler remains the 
>open tiddler, and the diverted tiddlers are hidden, so it looks as if 
>nothing happened.
>- Uneven top of stories when tiddler opens in right story.
>
> Could you send me a link by Messenger to the file in which you made the 
> fixes you mention? Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:07 AM Saq Imtiaz  > wrote:
>
>> Updates:
>>
>>- the gap between stories with zoom storyview and sidebar closed 
>>should hopefully be resolved
>>- the divert button in edit mode now works even if the tiddler title 
>>has spaces.
>>   - Note the behaviour is currently that it opens the same tiddler 
>>   in the other story for viewing, as that is what I found most useful.
>>- There is a strange layout bug with zoom storyview active in the 
>>first story, where the top of the first story moves higher or lower 
>>depending on content. I have made a quick fix using css, but it causes 
>>issues with the animations. Not noticeable with the new shorter animation 
>>duration but will be an issue if animations are made slower.
>>- I've taken a crack at packing all stories related tiddlers into a 
>>plugin
>>
>> Some suggestions:
>>
>>- References, I would tweak the layout as follows, at the bottom of 
>>each tiddler:
>>References (eyeicon):
>>- reference list
>>clicking the icon would either open a reveal widget or a popup to 
>>change the options for the references. Showing those options all the time 
>>is just adding clutter.
>>
>>- Perhaps don't show references on system tiddlers? Or make it a 
>>configuration option.
>>- Create a custom settings tiddler for this adaptation and present 
>>options in clearer terminology. New users might not know what a story 
>> view 
>>is, etc.
>>
>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/tiddlyblink.experiment
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:53:35 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Ilya, I will look at the Stylesheet further on Sun afternoon or 
>>> Monday. Trying to get away from the compooter today.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:43 PM Ilya  wrote:
>>>
 Hi David, yes I changed to a shorter name :))

 The new style sheet looks good! I have included screenshots of Stroll 
 vs TiddlyWiki for Spartan Night palette. Few things I immediately notice:

 - In Stroll, links to missing tiddlers are not italicized, links to 
 external sites are not underscored. 

 - Stroll handles transclusion differently, the color of transcluded box 
 seems to be inverted, is this intended? in TiddlyWiki transclusion looks 
 seamlessly merged into background tiddler. (tbh I think TiddlyWiki makes 
 it 
 look better for this palette)

 - The color of monospaced code also seems to be inverted.

 - After deleting the TiddlyBlink style sheet, the transcluded reference 
 looks like a single link (this is expected)

 That's all for now.


 On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:12:49 AM UTC+7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Ilya (did you just change your name?) :-)
>
> I updated the Stylesheet at 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>
> I tried it with four different dark palettes, and looks good.
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:30:32 PM UTC-5, Ilya wrote:
>>
>> >Comments:
>>
>> Bidirectional linking is definitely the best thing that could happen 
>> to TiddlyWiki for me, thanks a lot for making this!
>>
>> I think both this project and TiddlyMap make it much easier for users 
>> to break long and complex sequence of ideas into smaller chunks of 
>> expositions to be combined and reused in different sequences of ideas, 
>> this 
>> is the philosophy of TiddlyWiki and also what makes it so powerful.
>>
>> I have never used Roam research's product but I think the idea of 
>> networked thoughts is you don't learn concepts one by one in a linear 
>> chain 
>> but you learn by 

[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Birthe C]

Mat,

*Something else:*
I would like to pester you a little. Long time ago you created twaddle. 
That really inspired people to get tiddler fiddling (addiction). Would you 
at some time consider a twaddle2.
If you do, include a list of your plugins.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] number ranking

[Birthe C]

Sure, but it would not over 05. But then you would consider - are you goind 
to 100 or more and take care of that.

onsdag den 29. april 2020 kl. 12.53.15 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Even if I leave the "n" off, 18 is still ranked above 5.
>
>
> 29 Apr 2020, 11:11 by tiddl...@googlegroups.com :
>
> I have a field called "number", in which I add a different value for each 
> tid. The value format is "nx", e.g. n5, n37, etc. The tids with these 
> numbers are listed in a separate tid with the following code/script:
>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]each[number]sort[number]get[number]]" 
> variable=value >
> __<>__
> <$list filter='[all[tiddlers]numbersort[]]'>
>
> 
> 
>
> So they are sorted numerically, which means n5 and its associated tid 
> title is above n37 and its associated tid title. Duh.
>
> But …… n18 is above n5, which indicates to me that the macro only looks at 
> the 1st digit after the "n". I tried putting n18 between double square 
> brackets, or to write it as n.18, but to no avail.
>
> What do I need to add to the script?
>
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[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

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Mat,

*That* is pure love for the tiddler. How could anyone be a "tiddleur" 
without them?
Everybody should read this really.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: "Filter" Option + Search in Fields box

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Look at http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#list-search and then it is put in 
tiddler $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/All 


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[tw5] Re: multi-column list

[Birthe C]

Peter,
In a stylesheet put the following:

/*COLUMNS*/

.twocolumns {
display:block; 
column-count:2;
-moz-column-count:2; 
-webkit-column-count:2;}

.threecolumns {
display:block; 
column-count:3;
-moz-column-count:3; 
-webkit-column-count:3;}

.fourcolumns {
display:block; 
column-count:4;
-moz-column-count:4; 
-webkit-column-count:4;}

.fivecolumns { display:block; 
column-count:5;
-moz-column-count:5; 
-webkit-column-count:5;}

Then wrap your code with as an example 
@@.threecolumns
your code
@@


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Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[Birthe C]

Inspired? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor I think Motovun Jack 
is more peaceful.


tirsdag den 28. april 2020 kl. 23.36.19 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> whois says that 
>
> velocirapp.com is available
>
> Cool name. It's an app, it's speedy for notetaking, it's also a vicious 
> predator recreated from DNA found in a mosquito trapped in amber. 
>
> The only thing that comes up in Google search is a food delivery service 
> in Ecatepec, Morelos, Mexico (about an hour or two drive from from my 
> house).
>
> LET'S GET IT BEFORE IT'S GONE
>

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[tw5] Re: [meta] TiddlyWiki and... China - !?

[Birthe C]

Population size must have something to do with the high Chinese activity.
Now you search for tiddlywiki in Chinese and you will sure find lots of 
them. Many TWclassic though.
Also Chinese was the first translation to be added as far as I remember.


tirsdag den 28. april 2020 kl. 18.44.52 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The name of the product alienates people before they have a chance to 
>> learn more. 
>>
>
> Aha, so TiddlyWiki means something really exciting in Chinese!!! 
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: An amazing New Project Manager (todo) Plugin + Notebook Theme+ Notebook Color Palette

[Birthe C]

Thank you!

Right away I knew this is one I will use. Easy to use and fast. I love the 
Alt-C shortcut.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: New to TiddlyWiki. Any way to rearrange TOC

[Birthe C]

When you click the tagpill you see the dropdown with the items. The items 
can be dragged up or down.

tirsdag den 28. april 2020 kl. 08.21.18 UTC+2 skrev Tommy Warren:
>
> I apologize, I don't understand. When I open Chapter 1 the only tag there 
> is TableOfContents. It won't let me drag it anywhere. Again, I'm sorry, 
> you'll have to treat me like a complete idiot, I have no idea what I'm 
> doing.
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 1:24:27 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tommy,
>> This is one solution:
>>  Click one of the chapters say "Chapter 1 -Stuff" and open it
>>  In the open tiddler, on the tag wrapper row click the "TableOfContents" 
>> tag
>>  Reorder the items by drag and drop
>>
>> There are methods, but I see this is the simple one.
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: paste in external table?

[Birthe C]

Peter and Dave2, it works. After dragging the palette to your wiki, 
remember to change the palette used.

mandag den 27. april 2020 kl. 20.08.45 UTC+2 skrev Dave.2:
>
> My guess is that if you search "dev fire" and click the search icon for 
> advanced search you'll find $:/palettes/Dev Fire 
> 
>
> and I would think if you drag that into yours you should be able to pick 
> it...
>
> edit: Nope, tried it but it didn't work :(
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[tw5] Re: Interstitial Journaling in TiddlyWiki

[Birthe C]

TonyM,

Yes the github site. It is in tiddler "$:/PSaT/copy-tag" in the content you 
have 2 buttons written, the last one is of no use.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Interstitial Journaling in TiddlyWiki

[Birthe C]

TonyM,

Really nice, thanks for sharing. May I ask, why you show copy tag to 
clipboard 2 times in the tag dropdown.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [Use case] TiddlyWiki as exam database

[Birthe C]

Well done Anjar and thank you for sharing.

Jeg blev glad, da jeg så, at det ligefrem var forståeligt.


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Re: [tw5] Is there a solution for triggering scrolling to to Top ( when you are not using the storyriver. )

[Birthe C]

Det er Thomas Elmigers Linktotop-standalone. Desuden anvendes her et Font 
Awesome icon

søndag den 26. april 2020 kl. 20.54.23 UTC+2 skrev Julio Peña:
>
> Hello Jan
>
> Oh yes your storyview is different...
>
> Let me see...oh yes forgot about that one...
> I believe if you use the alt+s it should open up the sidebar.
> I found that out by accident...I don't even know if they are maintaining 
> that site any longer,
> but found it interesting relating to your dilemma.
> I hope it helps some.
>
> Hopefully you can get something out of it.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:09:51 PM UTC-4, Jan wrote:
>>
>> Salut Julio,
>> nice site, but it is not so easy to find the key to your backstage-area 
>> to see how it is done...
>> As I said things are a little complicated because I do use another 
>> storyview.
>>
>> Best wishes Jan
>>
>>
>> Am 26.04.2020 um 17:13 schrieb Julio Peña:
>>
>> Hello Jan and all, 
>>
>> Maybe this can help or give you an idea? Take a look:
>>
>> Cultures d'Avenir 
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julio
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[tw5] Re: Interstitial Journaling in TiddlyWiki

[Birthe C]

Scott,

Looks nice and works well. 
Thanks for sharing!

@TonyM, Please share. We all like to see what others are doing. And we 
learn from it.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Is there a solution for triggering scrolling to to Top ( when you are not using the storyriver. )

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Thomas Elmigers Linktotop 


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[tw5] Re: Local-First Storage, with backup to cloud (Github)

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You can find the latest thread here:Bob 
 


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Re: [tw5] URL of the current tiddler

[Birthe C]

Hovering the link everything on my screen blinks browser inclusive. It 
takes quite some time.

lørdag den 25. april 2020 kl. 16.47.02 UTC+2 skrev Anne-Laure Le Cunff:
>
> Thanks so much Saq and Jeremy!
>
> Here  is the final 
> result – many thanks for your help!
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:39:15 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to be late to this thread.
>>
>> The static site generation templates included in the core don’t need to 
>> know the URL at which the site will be published because it only generates 
>> relative URLs. As things stand, users have to edit the definition 
>> of tv-wikilink-template in those templates to include their full URL.
>>
>> An alternative that might work better in some situations would be pass 
>> the URL as a variable to the --rendertiddler or --render commands, and 
>> update the definition of tv-wikilink-template to include that variable.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Apr 2020, at 10:58, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>> @Anne-Laure you are welcome and this is helpful to the community too. We 
>> are very good at thinking in terms of manipulating content and presentation 
>> inside a running TW, but need some practice (and documentation) on 
>> extrapolating that to static html rendered from tiddlers.
>>
>> If you are keeping the JS macros in place, the last short version I 
>> posted is worth a try at some point.
>>
>> You are getting a uppercase first letter because the javascript macros 
>> turns the title into lowercase for the url and filenames.
>>
>> To do the same with tv-filter-export-link:
>> [split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]lowercase[]]
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:50:03 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks so much, Saq!
>>>
>>> I may look into this later, but when I implemented your approach, it 
>>> generated exactly what I wanted, for instance (that's from the static 
>>> website output):
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativitytext=Folders
>>>  
>>> kill creativity:%20
>>> https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativityvia=anthilemoonhashtags=mentalnodes;
>>>  
>>> target="_blank" title="Tweet">>> src="social-icons/Twitter.png">
>>>
>>>
>>> (not sure why the URL says "Folders" and not "folders" but that's minor)
>>>
>>> Very grateful!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:37:13 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:

 @Anne-Laure we should have asked you for those files from the 
 beginning! That would have made helping you out a lot easier all along :)

 Those instructions for regex use one of the other three variables that 
 I mentioned, tv-get-export-link instead of tv-filter-export-link, which 
 requires javascript.

 You can mix and match both approaches but then it can be a little 
 tricky to ensure that both always return the exact same filenames and 
 corresponding links. This may not be an issue, but there is a chance it 
 might cause problems at some point. Basically its a case of making sure 
 the 
 filter in tv-filter-export-link does the exact same thing as the 
 javascript.

 With the way I outlined, you use the same filters for both and there is 
 no javascript involved, so there are no chances of such issues. Or 
 alternatively one could write another javascript macro that defines the 
 url 
 variable, using the same javascript logic.
 For a non-developer I think the non-javascript based approach will be 
 easiest in the long run.

 Regards,
 Saq

 On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:11:56 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Saq,
>
> First, thanks so much for your help!
>
> Yes, I have modified *static.tiddler.html* - it looks like this 
> 
>  
> in my setup — and it looks like your approach is working! Thank you! Will 
> keep on tweaking, but if you're curious you can see here 
>  the files where I did 
> the regex edits. (following these instructions 
> 
> )
>
> Many thanks!
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:37:44 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> @Anne-Laure : I suspect we have been overcomplicating a bit because 
>> most of us are not familiar with the static site generation process. If 
>> you 
>> can walk us through a few details of your setup I think we are close a 
>> solution. Short instructions at the end, but please read through 
>> everything.
>>
>> Have you modified this template
>>  static.tiddler.html
>>
>> from the folder 
>> /core/templates?
>>
>> If so, please post your 

[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Birthe C]

Am I misunderstanding? A theme is discussed but to me it seems you want to 
change the workings of tiddlywiki.
If so remember there is such thing as backwards compatibility.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

I think it is from the official plugin library. I also think you are right. 
Easy for users to install themselves, and it takes 2 plugins to work.

Birthe

fredag den 24. april 2020 kl. 16.36.36 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I didn't find what you are referring to in the toolmap. Do you have a link?
>
> But this sounds like a plugin that users will be able to add onto Stroll / 
> TiddlyBlink, rather than something I should build into it. See Ilya's 
> comments in this thread on wanting it to be more lean.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 3:20 AM Alex Hough > 
> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> All this look very exciting.
>>
>> The first thing I thought was : wouldn't it be wonderful if it had the 
>> recent annotation tools -- those on the publisher TW
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 05:43, Tony K > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello David
>>>
>>> Thank you for the efforts putting this together, I  hope you do not mind 
>>> a few suggestions / questions ?
>>>
>>>
>>>- The "footer" of TiddlyBlink was better to my eyes (simply 
>>>references with the option to change 'View references as:' from the menu
>>>- Can we hide the "references" none exists?
>>>- is there an easy way to add "breadcrumbs" on top of the tiddler? 
>>>i.e. From Tiddler 2 you use a link to jump to Tiddler 3 and on the top 
>>> of 
>>>Tiddler 3 you have Tiddler 1 >> Tiddler 2 both clickable ? kind of a 
>>>"Parent - Child" relationship ?
>>>- The indentation between the UL items is somehow big
>>>
>>>
>>> bug thanks again
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:30:36 PM UTC+3, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi all

 Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this 
 link: two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between 
 columns. A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.

 https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html

 Known things to fix:

 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open *(we will 
 probably leave this alone for now, very minor issue)*
 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to 
 start a new column *(fixed: problem was a width setting)*
 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly* (I just need 
 to explain in instructions that it only works within the same story, not 
 across stories)*
 4) Completely redo the instructions. *(I plan to do video 
 instructions)*

 Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?

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Re: [tw5] Rethinking tiddlywiki.com

[Birthe C]

Anne-Laure

It looks great. I wonder if some mentioning of the many languages 
tiddlywiki has translation for Gallery of flags at TiddlyWiki.comhe 


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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave,

I use Firefox and your Tiddlyblink looks totally okay, I just made a 
suggestion. It does matter when the tiddler is folded.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Sure but the buttons is moved up, in total it takes up more space. 



torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 14.38.24 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
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> The space above the tiddler viewtoolbar is exactly the same as 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html. Or am I misunderstanding you?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Agree but I meant the space above the tiddler controls.

torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 13.58.39 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Birthe, I prefer the empty space to the ugly appearance of tiddler titles 
> that carry over to a second line. And since this is designed for two 
> columns, that is going to happen more often.
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:16:32 PM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Are you saving space for some secret magic? Top of tiddler looks rather 
>> big now with the tiddler controls moved above title. A little less padding 
>> perhaps.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Aren't they softlinks https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20and%20Soft%20Links

torsdag den 23. april 2020 kl. 03.15.43 UTC+2 skrev Imba Sunder:
>
> Another thing that would make it more Roam-like is if it also showed 
> References when transcluding. In Roam the transcluded page shows a 
> reference to the printing page. I've tried both {{}} and <$transclude> 
> syntax but neither generates a reference.

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

This is a work in progress. Dave and Saq are actively developing.
Not everybody is using github either.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Birthe C]

Jed,

Took Bob for a quick spin. Like the look and explanations and most 
importantly, I have none of my usual complains. It just works. Will have to 
wait till tomorrow for further testing.

Thank you so much,
Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: date format

[Birthe C]

Peter, 
That is why some people edit the tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle. 
You are right modified field is used here, you could use both modified and 
created field. I have one to the left and one to the right of my subtitle 
at least in some of my wikies.

Birthe


den 22. april 2020 kl. 16.08.54 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Birthe, the date in the subtitle is the modified date. I am interested in 
> the created date.
>
>
>
> 22 Apr 2020, 16:46 by strikk...@gmail.com :
>
> Peter,
>
> Why would you look in info for the date. It is visible in the tiddler 
> subtitle. Go to tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle. and see how 
> that is done.
> Tiddler subtitle is right before your eyes when working with your tiddler.
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: drafting TiddlyWiki integration for NeuraCache

[Birthe C]

Thomas Elmiger Flippy cards: https://tid.li/tw5/test/flippy.html

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Re: [tw5] Re: date format

[Birthe C]

Peter,

Why would you look in info for the date. It is visible in the tiddler 
subtitle. Go to tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle. and see how that 
is done.
Tiddler subtitle is right before your eyes when working with your tiddler.

Birthe


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Re: [tw5] Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Birthe C]

Now that your screenshot show Tiddlyblink I wonder. The serch will only 
find, what is open in the story.


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>
> Oops! :)
>
> 1. Still not working, it's only displaying one random Tiddler (see 
> attached)
> 2. Am I right this would export one file called tiddlers.html with 
> everything that's filtered in it, rather than multiple pages with one html 
> page = 1 tiddler?
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 10:29:50 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> @Mat, I tried the Advanced Search technique (thank you!) but it didn't 
>>> work for me, see screenshot attached. If it works, that's a much easier way 
>>> to go about it!
>>>
>>
>> You need to be on the "Filter" tab. You're on the "System" tab, which 
>> only filters among system tiddlers (i.e tiddlers prefixed $:/)
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave,

Are you saving space for some secret magic? Top of tiddler looks rather big 
now with the tiddler controls moved above title. A little less padding 
perhaps.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave,

Tooltip, you have create new journal tagged with this one. But it doesn't 
really. Should it not be create new journal linked to this one?

Birthe


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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

[Birthe C]

Peter,
It is part of a plugin among the many Ton Gerner has made.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave,
I see the big X in $:/AdvancedSearch - tab Context search.
The tiddler controls are not jumping any more. I saw it earlier on.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.37.31 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi Birthe, see my replies in* bold*
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when it 
>> should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.
>>
>  

>
> *Where are you seeing this behavior? There is an x to the right of the 
> search bar, but it is the same size as tiddlywiki.com 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com>'s. And there are no x's in references displayed as 
> context search results. So I am not sure what you mean.*
>
>>
>> Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
>> other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?
>>
>
> *Tiddler controls jumping up and down? I am not sure what you mean. If you 
> open some system or shadow tiddlers, the tiddler title may start on the 
> viewtoolbar line. Bu the actual toolbar doesn't move up and down. I did 
> make some changes since posting this thread. Refresh the webpage and see if 
> you still see the behavior, and try to describe it more precisely. I am 
> interested in knowing what this is.*
>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

[Birthe C]

Peter,

I like to use this 
http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftg%2Ftoolbar%2Ftagging
I think the Tiddlerinfo Panel easily gets overcrowded.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.12.16 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Thanks HC. For me it does not work either: there is no edit tags bar in 
> the info section of a tiddler.
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> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 13.09.05 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> @Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use 
> your code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler 
> with that code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.
>
>
>
> yes just put it in a tiddler, save it and press the button that you just 
> made. then in any tiddler press the info button, press the edit tags tab 
> and tag away. BUT (for me at least) it do not work any more in the new tw 
> 5.1.22 as mentioned.
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave
In tiddler TiddlyBlink home 

 
you expain how to shift og clik a link and how to close overlapping sidebar 
with 
the double arrow icon at the top right of the screen. Remember Shift-alt-S 
will also do that.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 16.30.36 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi all
>
> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>
> Known things to fix:
>
> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
> new column
> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
> 4) Completely redo the instructions.
>
> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

[Birthe C]

Dave,

The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when it 
should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.

Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

[Birthe C]

Peter,

Do you want more to play with a headache perhaps Gentags 
 ?

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

[Birthe C]

Please Tony,

When you have the time I would really appreciate a demo wiki. I know I am 
slow, but also language barrier hit me at times.
Several times I have worked trying to organize my wiki better, make more 
and better use of  fields - but I end up in the biggest rabbit hole ever -  
every time.

Not to mention Jeds Gentags, so promising but exploding my brain at some 
point.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

[Birthe C]

One of the problems for new users was already said many years ago by 
Tiddlertoddler 

 
.
Citation: "It's a bit like being on the wrong bus at 4pm on the way out of 
Katowice, Poland - you know you're going somewhere, you're just not sure 
where or whether there'll be food and a bed there."

It is necessary to try it out and do it for quite some time to really fall 
in love with it (then you will of course be dependent)

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

[Birthe C]

Peter,

I think we should pay attention to the examples Tony gave - task and 
priority. That kind of stuff.
Tobias Beer advocated very much for the use of fields and created some 
demos. (no I do not remember the links right now)


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Book tracking for the reading enthusiast

[Birthe C]

Jed,

I did it the dirty way directy in your tiddlers. Måns and I did that a lot 
while using TWclassic. Now as then an elaborate but also a learning 
experience. AND I must add only for our own wikies.

The best solution to make it possible to have translation in many languages 
is the solution by Thomas Elmiger. It is used in ToDoNow 
 the languages is in the Listreveal plugin 
 . 
Jan used the same way of doing it in Metatabs. I haven't seen anybody else 
yet. Not everything can be translated in this way but most of it. Rather 
easy the user have to clone and copy a tiddler and name it after the wanted 
language. The tiddler contains a list of wordpairs, translate them. A 
tiddler language exists, and a link to the translated tiddler is copied 
into it.
Thomas uses the macro $:/plugins/telmiger/lib/telang 
 .I 
do not think I am able to explain it any further.
How difficult that method is for the plugin author, I really do not know.

I do think it is a great way a good plugin could end having translations to 
many languages. If an author want to, he could ask translators to send the 
translation tiddler. They could be listed on a plugin site. It would also 
be some measure of how popular and used a plugin were all over the world.

I do think though, you have more important things to do ;-)

Birthe

mandag den 20. april 2020 kl. 20.22.18 UTC+2 skrev Jed Carty:
>
> Yes, that. I am glad someone is keeping track of where I put things 
> because I certainly am not.
>
> I wasn't aware that you were translating some of what I made. Is there 
> something I can do to make it easier?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

[Birthe C]

Peter,

You have used the search, I am sure. You will have to enter 3 letters 
before something happens.
Now think the same for the tag dropdown. 0 or 3 or what have you. The 
hidden setting is pr. default 0, change that to your liking.
I would not do it before having to.

Birthe

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> @A., Gloom: Thanks for that.
> I don't understand what that hidden setting does and what to change it to.
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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

[Birthe C]

Lovely! May a lot of the newsletter readers come this way.

Thank you to Anne-laure and gratulations to Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Book tracking for the reading enthusiast

[Birthe C]

Jed,

Would that be https://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Dashboard library 
Tracker?
I am using a lot of what you have made. Categorylist to name the one I use 
most often. I would wouldn't I after all the time I spend translating some 
of the things ;-).

No wonder you have a hard time remembering it all, you made so much nice 
stuff.
We have that, and it should not distract you in any way from your important 
work on Bob and twederation.

Thank you so much for all the goodies,
Birthe

mandag den 20. april 2020 kl. 17.26.22 UTC+2 skrev Jed Carty:
>
> I like the site. It is always very strange to see things on other peoples 
> wikis and think 'I was going to make something like that' and then 
> realising that they are using what I made and forgot about. I am glad that 
> they are getting use, but I need to update a lot of things.
>
> Somewhere I have a library tracker I made to keep track of who was 
> borrowing what books from me, and then to help organise when I moved to 
> France. I will try and find it.
> Once I get Bob working how I want it I am planning on going back through a 
> lot of my plugins so that I can hopefully start using them effectively.
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Re: [tw5] Rethinking tiddlywiki.com

[Birthe C]

Jeremy,

That would be a nice approach. TiddlyWiki will present itself nice and 
hopefully irresistible. New users will not use TiddlyWiki for long before 
they will want the full Tiddlywiki to be available as do the long timers.

Aside from that. In former discussions, many are the wishes, but 
tiddlywiki.com can not house all of them. That would end up a mishmash.

Birthe


mandag den 20. april 2020 kl. 16.08.52 UTC+2 skrev Jeremy Ruston:

> It seems important to keep focussed on the “what” and not get prematurely 
> distracted by the “how”, but I had a guilty thought about implementation 
> details.
>
> It is that we could keep tiddlywiki.com being a full TiddlyWiki but 
> cunningly disguise it, essentially by displaying the contents of a 
> HelloThere tiddler full screen. The motivation is that keeping it as a 
> TiddlyWiki would enable us to retain our existing interactive search.
>
> We could include a way to switch to the standard theme, and perhaps keep 
> that setting in local storage so that regular visitors can choose to skip 
> the landing page.
>
> (I’m thinking of a combination of the single tiddler mode discussed in 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3412 and a new mechanism 
> for switching the between different page templates).
>
> So the question here, perhaps, is to confirm that the concern with the 
> site being a TiddlyWiki is that the visual presentation is overly complex 
> for casual visitors? And not, for instance, the size of the page? There’s 
> no question we could clone a classic landing page like the examples 
> Anne-Laure quoted as an alternate page template (the Notion home page seems 
> particularly relevant).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2020, at 13:58, Anne-Laure Le Cunff  > wrote:
>
> @Jeremy - I'd be happy to help. Shouldn't take too much work to use a 
> template to create a static html/css page but would be great to have 
> everyone's input.
>
> @Yoni - Welcome to TW! Also want to clarify that I agree docs should stay 
> on TiddlyWiki itself, just that they should not be the first thing you see 
> when you go to Tiddlywiki.com  :)
>
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:52:59 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>>
>> I'm a new user (thanks to Anne-Laure's promotion of TW) and I have to say 
>> I'm really struggling to get going.. 
>>
>> But I'm sympathetic to the challenge of creating good help guides for an 
>> open source project. Perhaps I will volunteer to help a bit when I'm better 
>> at using TiddlyWinks. 
>>
>> Some of the quick wins that I think would help:
>>
>> - consider keeping a curated list of unofficial tutorials. You can store 
>> this on a tiddler on tiddlywiki.com and it should link to youtube videos 
>> and blog posts that your community has created. Eg Anne-Laure's recent post 
>> on on her blog. 
>>
>> - consider separating your how-to documentation from other types of 
>> documentation. This concept is really nicely explained here 
>> https://documentation.divio.com/introduction/. As a new user I just want 
>> to see how-to's. 
>>
>> - consider migrating away from google groups in my opinion. Perhaps use 
>> reddit or slack as the official discussion channel. Just a personal view 
>> but Google Groups has an outdated feel
>>
>> You are doing lots right though. I personally think you are right to host 
>> docs on TiddlyWiki itself. Its good that you are active on Twitter and that 
>> you engage with the community there.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Book tracking for the reading enthusiast

[Birthe C]

Julio Peña,

Interesting and nice looking. 
The main thing is of couse how you keep track of you books. I might go for 
it too.
I wonder how you make use of Task-Dates? I have tried to make that one work 
for a very long time now. Jed had a nice example but i never found out how.

Birthe

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