Re: [tw] Re: Lost work two times with tiddlywiki node version

[Brian McMullan]

I don't use Firefox; most of the corps [I work with at least] disallow 
firefox, no sense falling in love with something at home that I cannot 
reliably use elsewhere.

Chrome yes, and no crashes in 5.1.13, but operationally its very subpar to 
how things work in IE.   Saving: "Thou cannot savest where thy wanteth 
without a miracle (aka manual intervention) each save".  Chrome also 
doesn't play nice with ext links that open local or network folders, it 
opens them, but in it's browser view vs kicking off Windows Explorer like 
IE does (and I desire it to operate the IE way).It's considerably 
better to use TiddlyDesktop and have a three click and 6 second startup 
penalty but avoid the multitude of "save penalties" and op ugliness 
behavior.

No disagreements that IE is in many ways inferior to Chrome, but IE does 
have killer app - the Tiddly IE add-on that enforces tiddlers be saved 
where they're supposed to with a single click.  When TiddlyWiki runs 
reliably in IE, it's the best of all worlds which is why I settled on it. 
 Seriously, four years of using IE 11 across many TW5 versions and no 
problem.  But, 5.1.13 and problem exists.  5.1.14 beta, have yet to have a 
crash, few kinks still being worked out though of course.  

Thanks for the feedback and sorry for posting in the wrong spot, I'll carry 
on with TiddlyDesktop until 5.1.14 is released and hope for the best.

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Re: [tw] Re: Lost work two times with tiddlywiki node version

[Brian McMullan]

First post, sorry for the intrusion in existing thread.  Using TW for about 
four years, love it, moreover DEPEND on it.  Jeremy you are a mad genius is 
all I can say.  But, I am experiencing significant "crashes" since 5.1.13. 
 Even using an empty_5.1.13 shell, navigating around and editing a tiddler 
or two and IE 11 will go "internet explorer has stopped responding" and all 
changes lost.  I can use Chrome and prefer it, but the save mechanism in IE 
is much better with the (whatever the name is IE saver thing from 
tiddlywiki site), I lose data it seems in Chrome as the save directory 
takes a notion to wander to downloads, or desktop, or last place I saved a 
PDF (ornery thing).  Empty shell of 5.1.12 and prior works fine, 
pre-release (just testing) 5.1.14 works just fine, but there's something 
with 5.1.13 that definitely different in a bad sort of way.

My best guess is the WYSIWYG editor since 99% of the time it dies when 
editing a tiddler and extremely seldom when just navigating about.  The 
savior was TiddlyDesktop, hadn't used it previously but had to find 
something to work around the issue.  5.1.13 has never, ever, crashed in it. 
 I prefer the standalone browser version though, less steps to fire up 
quickly, make a few notes and entries, save and shut back down.  

Config: Dropbox [c users  dropbox tiddly] as repository, updates and 
edits (not simultaneously of course) from multiple computers (couple home 
machines, shop machine, office machines, test dev machine),  It started on 
ALL machines similarly after updating to 5.1.13.  I should have rolled back 
to 5.1.12 right after update, but loving the editor I kept updating and 
adding and boxed myself in.  Maybe can "downgrade" to 5.1.12 but never done 
that so kept forging ahead.  machines: Win 7 x64 pro and enterprise mainly, 
and one Win 10 pro [I don't trust Win 10 and it's telemetry data gathering 
propensity, hate to use it but have to for one business case - nuff said].

Just sharing my two cents, I check the releases weekly anxiously awaiting 
5.1.14 so can get back to my normal use pattern.  Amazing thing Tiddly wiki 
so I hate to post a negative experience.

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