[tw5] Re: Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

It doesn't show up anywhere — what do you mean by "not properly packaged"?

Thank you!

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 9:36:19 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> It might not be properly packaged as a plugin.
>
> In Advanced Search, search for:
> sitemapentries.js
>
> If it doesn't show up, also check the different tabs (system, shadow etc)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I feel like I should know where to look, but I can't find this in the 
plugins area. Where am I supposed to look for this plugin's tiddler? (see 
screenshot attached)

Thank you!

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 7:58:12 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> It shouldn't but I am wondering if by any chance you have two copies of 
> the plugin and editing the wrong one.
>
> Find the plugin js tiddler in your TW and verify that you can see your 
> changes there.
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 8:16:03 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> I edited straight from VS Code - I didn't know that made any difference, 
>> let me try from TW and restart the server. Thank you!
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:11:44 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> @anne-laure I can't take a look at the code just yet, but have you made 
>>> sure to start and stop the node server again? (This assumes you edited via 
>>> TiddlyWiki and not the file directly in a text editor)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 1:34:05 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I managed to make it work but my sitemap 
>>>> <https://www.mentalnodes.com/sitemap.xml> won't sanitize the links.
>>>>
>>>> Inside sitemapentries.js.tid I changed this part:
>>>>
>>>> *x += "\t\t" + server + element.title.replace(/ /g,"%2520") + 
>>>> ".html\n";*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To this:
>>>>
>>>> *x += "\t\t" + server + 
>>>> element.title.replace(/[\s]/gi,'-').replace(/[^a-z0-9\-.+]/gi,'') + 
>>>> ".html\n";*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I don't see any changes in the final output.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 3:26:45 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha, I used this <https://github.com/dullroar/TW5-sitemap> but looks 
>>>>> like I missed some steps! I somehow thought it was a native 
>>>>> functionality. 
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 11:39:29 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What plugin are you using for the sitemap? As far as I am aware, 
>>>>>> there is no built in support in TiddlyWiki for generating a sitemap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Saq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:44:07 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I added the following command to my build.sh file in order to 
>>>>>>> generate a sitemap of my TiddlyWiki static website:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So my full render command looks like this now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
>>>>>>> $:/ness_labs/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain 
>>>>>>> --rendertiddler $:/ness_labs/templates/static.template.css 
>>>>>>> static/static.css text/plain --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml 
>>>>>>> text/plain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do get a sitemap.xml file, but it's empty. Is there anything else 
>>>>>>> I should do beside using this command?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (all of this will be going into a SEO guide for TW btw!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> Anne-Laure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I edited straight from VS Code - I didn't know that made any difference, 
let me try from TW and restart the server. Thank you!

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:11:44 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @anne-laure I can't take a look at the code just yet, but have you made 
> sure to start and stop the node server again? (This assumes you edited via 
> TiddlyWiki and not the file directly in a text editor)
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 1:34:05 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> I managed to make it work but my sitemap 
>> <https://www.mentalnodes.com/sitemap.xml> won't sanitize the links.
>>
>> Inside sitemapentries.js.tid I changed this part:
>>
>> *x += "\t\t" + server + element.title.replace(/ /g,"%2520") + 
>> ".html\n";*
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>> *x += "\t\t" + server + 
>> element.title.replace(/[\s]/gi,'-').replace(/[^a-z0-9\-.+]/gi,'') + 
>> ".html\n";*
>>
>>
>> But I don't see any changes in the final output.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 3:26:45 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha, I used this <https://github.com/dullroar/TW5-sitemap> but looks 
>>> like I missed some steps! I somehow thought it was a native functionality. 
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 11:39:29 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What plugin are you using for the sitemap? As far as I am aware, there 
>>>> is no built in support in TiddlyWiki for generating a sitemap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Saq
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:44:07 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I added the following command to my build.sh file in order to generate 
>>>>> a sitemap of my TiddlyWiki static website:
>>>>>
>>>>> --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So my full render command looks like this now:
>>>>>
>>>>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
>>>>> $:/ness_labs/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain 
>>>>> --rendertiddler $:/ness_labs/templates/static.template.css 
>>>>> static/static.css text/plain --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml 
>>>>> text/plain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do get a sitemap.xml file, but it's empty. Is there anything else I 
>>>>> should do beside using this command?
>>>>>
>>>>> (all of this will be going into a SEO guide for TW btw!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Anne-Laure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] XML for Tiddlywiki!! Import, parse, render, and more!

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Life saviour!!

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:34:09 PM UTC+1, Flibbles wrote:
>
> Eshka, I found some projects suffering similar problems, and I think I may 
> have fixed it. Go head and try again.
>
> -Flibbles
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 8:11:51 AM UTC-4, Flibbles wrote:
>>
>> Eshka, could you please tell me what browser you're using?
>>
>> Unfortunately, due to the nature of this plugin, there will be some 
>> cross-platform issues I need to resolve. Every browser implements xmldom 
>> it's own way.
>>
>> -Flibbles
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 7:59:50 AM UTC-4, Eskha wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Fibbles,
>>>
>>> While your plugin looks very promising, I have the following error when 
>>> landing on your demo site:
>>>
>>> "TypeError: Argument 1 of DOMParser.constructor does not implement 
>>> interface Principal."
>>> (Inside the red box "Internal JavaScript Error")
>>>
>>> Best regard,
>>>
>>> Eskha
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I managed to make it work but my sitemap 
<https://www.mentalnodes.com/sitemap.xml> won't sanitize the links.

Inside sitemapentries.js.tid I changed this part:

*x += "\t\t" + server + element.title.replace(/ /g,"%2520") + 
".html\n";*


To this:

*x += "\t\t" + server + 
element.title.replace(/[\s]/gi,'-').replace(/[^a-z0-9\-.+]/gi,'') + 
".html\n";*


But I don't see any changes in the final output.

Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong here?

Thank you!



On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 3:26:45 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Ha, I used this <https://github.com/dullroar/TW5-sitemap> but looks like 
> I missed some steps! I somehow thought it was a native functionality. Thank 
> you!
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 11:39:29 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> What plugin are you using for the sitemap? As far as I am aware, there is 
>> no built in support in TiddlyWiki for generating a sitemap.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:44:07 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I added the following command to my build.sh file in order to generate a 
>>> sitemap of my TiddlyWiki static website:
>>>
>>> --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>>
>>>
>>> So my full render command looks like this now:
>>>
>>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
>>> $:/ness_labs/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain 
>>> --rendertiddler $:/ness_labs/templates/static.template.css 
>>> static/static.css text/plain --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>>
>>>
>>> I do get a sitemap.xml file, but it's empty. Is there anything else I 
>>> should do beside using this command?
>>>
>>> (all of this will be going into a SEO guide for TW btw!)
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Anne-Laure.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Solution] Preserving Paragraphs or using new line to indicate Paragraphs

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much for looking into this, Tony! Part of my use case is to 
export my notes as a static website. Is one of the three solutions better 
to export each paragraph as paragraph?

Thank you!

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:02:24 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I just found a solution to an issue which bugs a lot of new and 
> experienced users alike, many come to be happy by adapting to it, however 
> when they bring text in from elsewhere the issue rears its head again.
>
> *Problem:* Consider Source Text as follows in a tiddler 
> line a
>
> line b
> line c
>
>
> Line d
>
> Gets displayed as
> line a
>
> line b line c
>
> Line d
> That is the author or source of text requires two enters resulting in a 
> blank line before it is treated as a new paragraph, other wise the line is 
> appended to the previous line.
>
> See also that the source text has two line between line c and line b, yet 
> rendering collapses this to one line, this will not change with this 
> solution
>
> Be aware there are good reasons for this behaviour and attempts at fixing 
> it have tended to be cumbersome.
>
> As I posted in this thread Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW 
>  (answer 
> reproduced here) I think I have found a useful solution that can be applied 
> in a few different ways.
>
>
>- This solution also allows wikitext markup to be applied to pasted 
>text, allowing subsequent markup.
>
> *Background 1st solution*
> If you wrap a block of text in a section or other html blocks and use a 
> style to use the same white spacing as pre you will get text that behaves 
> like was intended in the source text.
> Using a blank line after the first html tag ensures any wikitext markup is 
> honored.
>
> 
> blank line here
> !Marked
>
> Your pasted text Wikitext markup if desired
> 
>
> *2nd Solution*
> Of course you can create a css class eg "retain" and apply it like this as 
> well (define in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet
> eg
> .retain { white-space: pre; }
>
>
> @@.retain
> ;No Blank line needed for wiki text
> Some text
>
> some more text
> @@
> You can leave off the closing "@@" with no apparent ill effect
>
>
>- The above is honored when transcluding this tidder
>
> *3rd Solution*
>
> There may be better ways but if on a given tiddler you wish to have a 
> class applied to the whole content create a class field and give it the 
> value of the class in the following format.
>
> class=classname and the whole tiddler content will have class applied
>
> However the class is applied at the very last moment, so the preview 
> window does not apply it, and the rendered tiddler is wrapped in one or 
> more `` tags.
> So let us define a class that uses the P selector to target the resulting 
> paragraphs
> .keep P { white-space: pre; border: 2px solid blue; }
>
> and set the class field to keep
>
> So the whole tiddler will honor this formatting, good for pasted content 
> with line breaks considered paragraph breaks, and still permits wikitext.
>
>- In this case unlike 1st and 2nd solutions this class is not honored 
>in transclusions, which may a be good or bad 
>- Use this to fix it, ie add the retain class to the section
>
> @@.retain {{transcluded}}@@
>
> *In closing*
> Some of us may consider this a substantial improvement in usability others 
> will see little or no value.
>
>- What do you think?
>- Have you other ideas?
>- Feedback please
>
> Regards
> Tony(m)
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Reviving TiddlyWiki Hangouts

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wonderful line up! Excited to learn how everyone uses TW.

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 4:57:57 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> We’ve now got a great schedule for the next few weeks:
>
>
>- Dave Gifford for the week of 18th May
>- Jed Carty for the week of 25th May
>- Tobias Beer for the week of 1st June
>- Rizwan Ishak for the week of 8th June
>- Elise Springer for the week of 16th June
>
>
> I should be able to confirm the following two or three Hangouts soon. Do 
> please keep nominations coming.
>
> Feedback and questions are welcome — I’m learning as I go here, and keen 
> to make these shows as useful as possible for everybody.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 12 May 2020, at 16:20, Anne-Laure Le Cunff  > wrote:
>
> I was going to suggest David Gifford but he's the next guest — very 
> excited about this one! Mohammad would be great too, he always is so 
> helpful and has lots of interesting hacks.
>
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 3:41:58 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>
>> +1
>> -m
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 2:52:56 PM UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>>>
>>> I know that I'm late to the nomination party, but I'd really like to 
>>> hear the point of views of people who remain "faithful" to TWC. My 
>>> nomination would have to be Yakov and his continuing superb work in that 
>>> area.
>>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Reviving TiddlyWiki Hangouts

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I was going to suggest David Gifford but he's the next guest — very excited 
about this one! Mohammad would be great too, he always is so helpful and 
has lots of interesting hacks.

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 3:41:58 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> +1
> -m
>
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 2:52:56 PM UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>>
>> I know that I'm late to the nomination party, but I'd really like to hear 
>> the point of views of people who remain "faithful" to TWC. My nomination 
>> would have to be Yakov and his continuing superb work in that area.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #106 with Anne-Laure Le Cunff

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much for having me, Jeremy!

@Saq: I'm so glad you found it interesting, thanks for watching! :)

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 3:32:23 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Jeremy,
> Thank you for doing this. I found no errors in the subtitles and it was a 
> tremendous help.
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: Any cheat sheet for the editor? WikiText?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

You mean formatting 

?

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 3:48:13 PM UTC+1, Sanjit Maddamsetty wrote:
>
> Is there any cheat sheet to know all the shortcuts, (like using "..." for 
> bold, [[ ]] for linking). 
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I insert a timestamp as "text" ?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thank you, Tony!

On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 9:14:41 PM UTC+1, Tony K wrote:
>
> Hi Anne
>
> In case you are still following the thread, this might interest you 
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/tiddlywiki/YOawrinusJM
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

This is really cool, thanks Mohammad! Love that implementation and always 
in awe of TiddlyWiki's flexibility.

I'm not too worried about the way the text is displayed once it's formatted 
correctly. It's just annoying to have to manually add back the spaces 
between the paragraphs every time I paste from another text editor. David's 
solution will do until I can figure out how to add paragraphs automatically 
:) 

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 3:17:23 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Anne-Laure
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 6:31:45 PM UTC+4:30, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Wow, thank you so much everyone for all the help. While I understand the 
>> philosophy behind TiddlyWiki, with each tiddler being the smallest unit of 
>> information, I often write longer essays and it wouldn't feel natural to 
>> break them into separate tiddlers, so it's great to see there are 
>> workarounds.
>>
>
> If you write long text in one tiddler, you may be interested to see how 
> ebooks are distributed using Tiddlywiki!
> Have a look at 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/_VLufc4Svp8/jALzYZ09BAAJ
> and see example ebook provided by Xavier Cazin
>
> --Mohammad
>
>  
>
>>
>> @Tony: Thanks for these! The problem with copying and pasting HTML is 
>> that I write my essays in Roam Research, and the HTML is a hot mess. I also 
>> very often write in Google Docs and it would be annoying to have to publish 
>> each essay as an HTML page to then copy the source code and paste it into 
>> TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> @FrD: Thank you! If I understand correctly, I'd have to tag each new 
>> tiddler with the corresponding data-tag to make sure these custom styles 
>> are applied?
>>
>> @David: this is super smart! I wonder if there's a way to hack it so it 
>> wraps paragraphs in * instead so the output is more semantically 
>> correct? In the mean time that's a great hack.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 1:52:35 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Anne-Laure,
>>>
>>> Here is a strange but simple hack that just occurred to me: I cloned the 
>>> bulleted list button to add  before each line. So you paste from 
>>> Roam, Workflowy, etc, select all text, and push the button.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/goodies.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FEditorToolbar%2Fbrbr
>>>
>>> You will probably want to change the icon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I often have to paste long content from other sources (Google Doc, 
>>>> Roam, email) into TW and it just lumps everything together. No more 
>>>> paragraphs, formatting or anything, just a massive blob of text.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Anne-Laure.
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, thank you so much everyone for all the help. While I understand the 
philosophy behind TiddlyWiki, with each tiddler being the smallest unit of 
information, I often write longer essays and it wouldn't feel natural to 
break them into separate tiddlers, so it's great to see there are 
workarounds.

@Tony: Thanks for these! The problem with copying and pasting HTML is that 
I write my essays in Roam Research, and the HTML is a hot mess. I also very 
often write in Google Docs and it would be annoying to have to publish each 
essay as an HTML page to then copy the source code and paste it into 
TiddlyWiki.

@FrD: Thank you! If I understand correctly, I'd have to tag each new 
tiddler with the corresponding data-tag to make sure these custom styles 
are applied?

@David: this is super smart! I wonder if there's a way to hack it so it 
wraps paragraphs in * instead so the output is more semantically 
correct? In the mean time that's a great hack.





On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 1:52:35 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure,
>
> Here is a strange but simple hack that just occurred to me: I cloned the 
> bulleted list button to add  before each line. So you paste from 
> Roam, Workflowy, etc, select all text, and push the button.
>
>
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/goodies.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FEditorToolbar%2Fbrbr
>
> You will probably want to change the icon.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I often have to paste long content from other sources (Google Doc, Roam, 
>> email) into TW and it just lumps everything together. No more paragraphs, 
>> formatting or anything, just a massive blob of text.
>>
>> Is there a way to fix this?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Anne-Laure.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thank you, Mark!

I'm curious - do people actually write straight into TW for long texts? How 
come this hasn't been much of an issue for everyone else? Or is it just 
that most people take quick notes / bullet points and never feel the need 
to write or paste very long articles?

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 2:42:25 AM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I'm sure someone will come along with a better solution. This will replace 
> single line feeds with  paragraph breaks. Unfortunately, this means 
> your original text will actually be physically more mangled than it started 
> -- I have no way to generate a literal carriage return. Be sure to make 
> backups if you try this.
>
> Name of tiddler: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/convertme" size="20" tag=
> "input" placeholder="Tiddler to convert" default="Sample"/>
>
> <$vars br="" par="" title={{$:/temp/convertme}} >
> <$button>Add line feeds
> <$list filter="[get[text]splitregexp[\n]join]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="text" $value=< >>/>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 5:26:44 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I often have to paste long content from other sources (Google Doc, Roam, 
>> email) into TW and it just lumps everything together. No more paragraphs, 
>> formatting or anything, just a massive blob of text.
>>
>> Is there a way to fix this?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Anne-Laure.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much Tony, I didn't think of using a tool that would preserve the 
HTML formatting. I'll give that a try. I honestly can't write long-form 
content in TiddlyWiki. For short notes, it's fine. But when I write long 
notes (thousands of words), the writing experience is not comfortable. So I 
write in Roam or Google Docs, but when I paste these into TiddlyWiki the 
formatting is all gone and it's quite tedious to add the paragraphs back.


On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 2:35:15 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure.
>
> This becomes an issue for all tiddlywiki users eventually for many when 
> typing, or in your case importing text. I believe it is a product of the 
> way wikitext need to cohabit with widgets and other code. I and mario were 
> recently looking at "dot paragraphs" where placing a period at the 
> beginning of a line would turn it into a paragraph   `` when rendered. I 
> was about to revisit where we were on this. With a line based Editor 
> toolbar button to add a period at the beginning of every line in 
> highlighted text, This method can be used to rapidly transform imported 
> text, that comes in the forms of lines rather than paragraphs when pasted. 
> It has the advantage of also collapsing extra blank lines.
>
> I believe there may be options in the tools one uses to copy and paste 
> that will use double line breaks when pasting a paragraph.
>
> Depending on your final use of the text you capture from elsewhere and 
> whether you intend to edit it. you can get a browser tool to copy as html 
> from the source, and paste this html it tiddlywiki thus retaining much of 
> its original structure.
>
> We could also make an editor toolbar button that wraps every (all or 
> selected) lines in `` but these will remain in the text in edit mode.
>
> Try these things and let us know if you want to explore this in more 
> detail.
>
> Regards
> tony
>
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 10:26:44 AM UTC+10, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I often have to paste long content from other sources (Google Doc, Roam, 
>> email) into TW and it just lumps everything together. No more paragraphs, 
>> formatting or anything, just a massive blob of text.
>>
>> Is there a way to fix this?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Anne-Laure.
>>
>

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[tw5] Preserving paragraphs when pasting into TW

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hey everyone!

I often have to paste long content from other sources (Google Doc, Roam, 
email) into TW and it just lumps everything together. No more paragraphs, 
formatting or anything, just a massive blob of text.

Is there a way to fix this?

Thank you!
Anne-Laure.

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Ha that's unfortunate! Good Saq gave you a solution then. I'll also edit the 
tutorial at some point to add the URL encoding. Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Edgaras: it's very bad practice to do that. I assume you want to get rid of 
the .html in the file name to clean the URL? All the sites that don't have a 
file extension at the end of their URLs do that on the server with a .htaccess 
file for instance, not by doing folder/index.html for each page. You could look 
at Fast's documentation to see if you can upload a .htaccess file.

(apologies if that's not what you're trying to achieve here!)

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I have indeed seen people do the kebab casing for their titles to get around 
the issue:

https://tacticaltypos.net/

And yes always good to give credits to TiddlyWiki! I personally have links to 
tutorials as well on mine: https://www.mentalnodes.com/about

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Yoni,

Here is a screenshot of what mine looks like. I have no idea what exactly 
is going wrong but I suspect the browser-based exporter Jeremy built 
doesn't work exactly like the node-based exporter I'm using.

[image: Screenshot 2020-05-08 at 11.56.42 PM.png]


On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 8:24:26 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>
> Mind you I'm not sure if I'm correctly setting the type and module type? 
> Anne-Laure I used the 3 fields as show in the screenshot. Is that right? 
>
>
> [image: 2020-05-08 21_14_59-Window.png]
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generate Static Website Using Tiddlywiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, incredible these were generated with TW. Very impressed.Thanks for 
sharing!

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:20:03 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure,
>  This one is really interesting!
> http://heeg.tiddlyspot.com/#index  (The Tiddlywiki template to create 
> static webpage as online store!)
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a fairly minimal workflow to import pages from Roam into TiddlyWiki?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much for sharing, Stian! I'll give a try. I know where to find 
you :)

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:49:09 PM UTC+1, Stian Håklev wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>>
>
> I'm not using TiddlyWiki, but I figured this would be useful to you. I've 
> developed a tool called roam-export, which processes Roam JSON exports and 
> does a lot of neat things, including resolving embeds, block-embeds, 
> queries (almost done), exporting a subset of pages in Markdown etc. It's 
> quite messy code right now, but I'm happy to help out or improve it if 
> people need specific things - basically tell me which format you want the 
> data in :) 
>
> https://github.com/houshuang/roam-export
>
> I'm using it for a Gatsby digital garden, with more details here: 
> https://notes.reganmian.net/about
>
> PS: I won't be monitoring this mailing list, so please email me directly 
> sha...@gmail.com  or @houshuang on Twitter if you want to 
> discuss. Good luck - love the stuff you guys are all doing with TiddlyWiki! 
>

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I only tested these with the Node.js version of TiddlyWiki, and I didn't 
have to do anything else beside creating these two files and making sure to 
set their type properly. When I exported again, the URLs had hyphens 
instead of spaces between the words.

Honestly not sure if there's an extra step to make it work with the 
in-browser export tool, maybe someone can chime in!

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 7:51:27 PM UTC+1, Edgaras wrote:
>
> Yoni Balkind sadly Timmini does not have a Safari plugin...
>
> Anne-Laure wow, nice thank you for sharing! It seems a bit complex, I put 
> those two macros in the system, but I am not sure how to reference them in 
> the export button code.
>

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

By the way the files are called something "nurselog" because his website is 
called Nurse Log, I used "nesslabs" for my files - doesn't really matter 
but just in case you wonder what "nurselog" is about :)

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 7:39:19 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Hi Yoni, see walkthrough attached.
>
> This 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/gwGz47QS6NI/p6w7greowAcJ> 
> also 
> should be an easy solution to the URL issue.
>
> On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 7:36:43 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>>
>> @Edgaras regarding TiddlyDesktop not exporting nicely - I'm just using 
>> the normal TW file and saving with Timimi, works nicely. 
>>
>> @Anne-Laure I was just about to comment on the fact that I'm still 
>> struggling with ugly permalinks like this:
>> www.mysite.com/About%2520this%2520site.html
>>
>> Those scripts that you linked to - can they be used with the new export 
>> method? If so, do we put them into the "export" tiddly together with the 
>> other code? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Yoni, see walkthrough attached.

This 
 
also 
should be an easy solution to the URL issue.

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 7:36:43 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>
> @Edgaras regarding TiddlyDesktop not exporting nicely - I'm just using the 
> normal TW file and saving with Timimi, works nicely. 
>
> @Anne-Laure I was just about to comment on the fact that I'm still 
> struggling with ugly permalinks like this:
> www.mysite.com/About%2520this%2520site.html
>
> Those scripts that you linked to - can they be used with the new export 
> method? If so, do we put them into the "export" tiddly together with the 
> other code? 
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Wikipedia-like tooltips

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

That's my website, thanks so much A Gloom and Stefan!

On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 7:09:01 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Yeah, take that Tobias! :-) Peter, glad you find it helpful.
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 7:57:51 AM UTC-5, Peter Buyze wrote:
>>
>> I have removed Tobias Beer's plug-in and added David Gifford's instead - 
>> works like a dream, I am adding to all the internal links in my TW.
>>
>>
>> 4 May 2020, 15:32 by barro...@gmail.com:
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> I noticed that in the $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview/template there is a red 
>> error message:
>> Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget
>> which might explain the problem.
>>
>> I never tried it so I'm sure about it but a recursive error in a 
>> transclusion is usually because its trying to transclude itself which is 
>> normal for a template using the default currentTiddler variable.  
>> Transparent background can be fixed with css-- div's by default from what 
>> I've seen when doing absolute positioning of div's (which a tiddler is 
>> iirc) seem to have transparent background-- easily corrected with 
>> background:(color of choice);.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Generate Static Website Using Tiddlywiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Following this thread!

Also found this tutorial 
 incredibly 
helpful in cleaning up the output of a TiddlyWiki static website.

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 5:37:08 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> In another thread 
> Siniy-Kit
>  
> presented a method to export to Static Multi Page Website!
>
> Her wrote:
>
>
> Hi,  Jeremy. Why you put files to zip? All old Tiddlywiki versions can 
>> generate static multipage sites without node.js  and JSZip and any macros. 
>> And browsers can download many files at one time.
>>
>> For example open this page 
>> https://heeg.ru/shop2.html?id=11f1IzEfXaPZuuVnMya7_50oHOz6kVqK_9-nIYojOHz4#static_cut
>>  
>> 
>>  and 
>> press buttons to generate css or js or all pages.
>>
>>  
>> <$action-sendmessage
>>  $message="tm-download-file" 
>> $param="$:/core/templates/HEEG/static.tiddler.html" 
>> exportFilter=<>
>> filename=<>/>
>>
>>
>>
>
> __
>  
>
> *Suggestion*
>
> I appreciate Siniy-Kit kindly to explain more and if possible give a short 
> step-wise instruction to produce a multipages static site!
> I know Siniy-Kit in the past has made many wonderful online stores using 
> Google Sheets + Tiddlywiki!
>
> Recently many questions raised on how generate static websites using 
> Tiddlywiki!
>
> There some questions to be answered:
>
>1. How export to static multi-pages using Node.js+Tiddlywiki   (see: 
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Generating%20Static%20Sites%20with%20TiddlyWiki
>)
>2. How export to static multi-pages directly from browser (see 
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/gEpIkzW5ADU/RALNIKbUAAAJ)
>
> Both of them are straight forward and ready out of the box in TW 
> 5.1.23pre. BUT when users like to
>
>1. customize html file names (like removing spaces and nasty chars)
>2. customize page layout and presentation using custom css
>3. create folder structure like (../assets ../images ../pdfs ...)
>4. include some JS
>5. resolve the extra  html tags when render into html which damage 
>custom designs
>6. resolve the extra html tags like div with classes NOT in use when 
>custom css is used
>
> they encounter problems.
>
> So, I appreciate Siniy-Kit  to share his experience in a simple way and 
> let us use his techniques to
> create static pages.
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> p.s: @Eric Shulman
> Would you please add static-page or suitable tag to Forum tags!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Edgaras - I used this 
 to 
fix my URLs!

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 7:11:44 PM UTC+1, Edgaras wrote:
>
> *Yoni Balkind* funny, I am also using fast.io following Anne-Laure's 
> recommendations, and it works great! I am using Dropbox instead of Google 
> Drive.
>
> Exactly, it would be amazing if it could save to the specified location. 
> Also TiddlyDesktop does not seem to work for exporting at the moment.
>
> Also, I would love to be able to change script so it generates folders 
> named by tiddler names and inside of each – index.html file. So instead of 
> "MyNote.html" I could get "MyNote/index.html" (that's a file inside a 
> folder).
> This way the static website using fast.io could display 
> mycustomdomain.com/mynote instead of mycustomdomain.com/mynote.html
>
> [encodeuricomponent[]addsuffix[.html]]
>
> I have tried to change this part to achieve that, but I could not figure 
> out how.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Popup transclusion problem, TiddlyWiki vs static html

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oops, my tutorial  has the 
pop up on content that's on its own separate line, so I didn't notice the 
problem. Following this conversation with interest.

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 2:24:02 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I recently came up with a way to transclude tiddlers within popups in a 
> way that works when exporting tiddlers to static htmls. 
>
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/transclusioninpopups.html
>
> Now I realize there is a problem: I tested the popup on its own line, but 
> not within a paragraph. Within a paragraph, since the solution is a , 
> it breaks the paragraph and the link appears below on a separate line. Here 
> is the original snippet:
>
> https://giffmex.org;>Giffmex class="tooltiptext"><$transclude tiddler="New Tiddler" 
> mode="block"/>
>
> I tried changing the outer  to a  twice, once with the inner 
> div, and once with the inner as a span. But in both cases, the transclusion 
> happens on the page, not as a popup.
>
> I even tried changing the stylesheet $:/.giffmex/.Stylesheet4popups 
> 
>  
> tooltip from display:inline-block to display:inline.
>
> Any ideas? Is the problem found in one of the static shadow tiddlers? Or 
> am I doing something wrong? Or is the very  that makes it work on a 
> separate line in static HTML also the thing that keeps it from working 
> within a paragraph?
>
> I was pleased that I came up with something viable for Anne-Laure and her 
> subscribers, who are using these popups in their "mind gardens", but now am 
> disappointed it is not working as planned. I would appreciate any help you 
> can give me.
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I insert a timestamp as "text" ?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

That would be a great feature for interstitial journaling.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 9:36:57 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Riz button for the editor toolbar perhaps? 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/UHt6GsMpyAQ/USFJxw68AQAJ
>
>
> onsdag den 6. maj 2020 kl. 19.45.21 UTC+2 skrev Tony K:
>>
>> Assuming I am writing a Tiddler and I would like to add to it a 
>> timestamp, if I use the <> the issue is that it will be evaluated 
>> everytime the tiddler is loaded 
>>
>> How can I insert the current timestamp and then let it sit there and be 
>> static?
>>
>> thank you 
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Examples of TiddlyWiki static websites

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks Jeremy, these are great!

@Julio - of course I made a typo in mine. It's mentalnodes.com 
<https://www.mentalnodes.com/> :)

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 9:10:47 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Anne-Laure
>
> I’ve got a couple more:
>
>
>- https://jermolene.com/ my blog (rarely updated)
>- https://federatial.com/ my consultancy website (also rarely updated)
>
>
> They are built from wikis on https://xememex.com: 
> https://xememex.com/jermolene/ and https://xememex.com/federatial/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 6 May 2020, at 19:08, Anne-Laure Le Cunff  > wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for examples of websites built with TW - if you have one or 
> know of one, could you share below?
>
> Examples I have so far:
>
>- tacticaltypos.net by Brandon Hall
>- richardsmith.neocities.org 
><https://richardsmith.neocities.org/site/index.html> by Richard Smith
>- articulos.giffmex.org by Dave Gifford
>- cwdaniels.github.io by Wess Daniels
>- mentanodes.com by yours truly
>
> Any others?
>
> Thanks!
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[tw5] Examples of TiddlyWiki static websites

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for examples of websites built with TW - if you have one or 
know of one, could you share below?

Examples I have so far:

   - tacticaltypos.net by Brandon Hall
   - richardsmith.neocities.org 
    by Richard Smith
   - articulos.giffmex.org by Dave Gifford
   - cwdaniels.github.io by Wess Daniels
   - mentanodes.com by yours truly

Any others?

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: The MESS of knowing what is what ... GG is poison ...

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I may be old school but I kind of like Google Groups. I find it pretty easy 
to search through past messages and I also use the "start" function. That 
being said, having a pinned message with most commonly asked questions 
linking to corresponding thread with solution could be useful—but not sure 
it can be collectively maintained.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 4:24:11 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You mentioned this before -- why do I keep forgetting? I need to star this 
> ;-)
>
> TT is trying to search for a concept: Editing. Unfortunately, almost every 
> post is going to have terms relating to editing. Only if someone took the 
> time to tag the item would "Editing" stand out as a semantic object.
>
> If TT had been looking for a strudel recipe, he would have had better luck.
>
> I don't think it would be any different with any other forum.
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 5:39:15 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I do find something interesting to remember, I use the "star" to mark 
>> it as "Starred". It can be my own replies, which I always mark _if_ they 
>> contain code or an attachment. 
>>
>> Or I do star comments from others, which I think, I should be able to 
>> remember. 
>>
>> The GG web UI have a selector in the left sidebar: Starred, which will 
>> only list, threads, that I did mark. 
>>
>> So it's possible to find stuff, that I'm interested in. ... From time to 
>> time I do scroll down this list, until I find my first "starred" post, 
>> quite some time back to 2013 or 14
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: To tidlyWiki blog or not to blog

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I tend to agree with Mat, but a model to consider would be DEV 
, where people can cross-post their articles and set the 
canonical link to their own blog so Google knows who to rank first.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 11:14:16 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Perhaps consider for a moment if you had something to share, you often 
>> share good content in the forum, what do you think about sending an email, 
>> getting a WordPress Id or sending a json file?
>>
>
> I can only speak for myself so don't let my skepticism affect you too much 
> but if I write something on the boards it is to either pose or answer a 
> question or to announce something. They all rely on having an audience for 
> them to be meaningful. For pieces worthy of *publishing*, as in a blog, I 
> want it to be good so I typically spend a lot of time working on it. (Way 
> more than what is obvious if you read it.) As such, I wouldn't want to send 
> it somewhere if there wasn't a good audience there. Publishing it in my own 
> blog (if I had one) would be a bit like writing in a diary (not that I ever 
> had a diary, but) so it would be a more introspective matter. The articles 
> are my babies and, as noted, I'd have full control over them for pruning 
> and tweaking. I'd lose that control in someone elses blog.
>
>
> I am thinking more of content for the tiddlywiki community rather named 
>> authors but that is worth thinking about.
>>
>
> I barely understand what that sentence means - and that relates to my 
> point: Who would want to contribute to a blog if it isn't good? Would my 
> stuff be intermingled with sentences like that one? Sorry for the 
> directness but I it's probably better to hear this now than to later wonder 
> why people (or at least Mat) aren't contributing. Of course, I know, that 
> sentence is not part of a blog post but just a quick reply in a discussion 
> :-)
>
> But again, don't let my skepticism stop anything but I do think you should 
> start it out yourself and just let the result itself be what attracts 
> contributions.
>
>  
>
>> I wanted to openly take content from the forums, is that ok?
>>
>
> I doubt anyone here has any personal objection to this but from a strictly 
> legal standpoint I wouldn't be surprised if
>
>
> <:-)
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki editor - view and edit as one mode

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Edgaras: if you want to see ProseMirror in action, that's what NoteBag.app 
uses :)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a fairly minimal workflow to import pages from Roam into TiddlyWiki?

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>
> Roam users: do you need to know when each bullet was added or edited? Can 
> you imagine a situation where you might? Does Roam even let you see this 
> information?


Nope, I don't care when a bullet point was added or edited.

I think my proposal of top level item not being bullet points, but 
> subsequent items being bullet points is best of both worlds.


I think it feels more natural to just import it exactly as it looks in 
Roam, especially as your proposal assumes people mainly write essays in 
Roam, when really my bullet points are often actual bullet points, and I 
would be annoyed to have to add them back. But I'm so excited to have a 
solution at all that I'm not fussed if we drop the top-level bullet points 
even if I find that arbitrary.

Whatever you decide - this is exciting!


On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 12:34:50 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>
> For this one I disagree with Yoni. It should be bullet points in 
>> TiddlyWiki as well, to stay as close as the Roam experience. 
>>
>
> I think my proposal of top level item not being bullet points, but 
> subsequent items being bullet points is best of both worlds. It respects 
> the nesting levels but allows user to import a flat "essay" if they had no 
> nesting.. But Anne-Laure's approach (which is what @Riz did in his 
> prototype) is understandable and workable
>
> ...in the spirit of staying as close as possible to Roam, to not even 
>> consider the question of tags. Whether #Title or [[Title]] these should all 
>> be converted to [[Title]] in TiddlyWiki.
>>
>
> Agreed. But with some additional thoughts about how to use tags as 
> reflected in my earlier post (the one beginning "Okay, this is looking 
> promising..") 
>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Yes, you can either create a site.sh file with your own commands and type 
'./site.sh' (which is what I did) or edit the tiddlywiki.info file so it 
does what you want when you type 'tiddlywiki --build static' - I don't 
think one is more work than the other.

This  
is a good resource for customising the output if you didn't find it before.

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 6:50:40 PM UTC+1, Florian Cauvin wrote:
>
> > I guess the tutorial is about generating a website, 
> > not customising it, which would be a separate tutorial :)
>
> Fair enough. Although, generating a static site could actually be 
> summarized in just three words: 'tiddlywiki --build static'
>
> Customizing that process so that it splits the markup you wish, well, I 
> gonna wait for (or I'm gonna write) a tutorial for that. Markup currently 
> being generated is full of invisible buttons, etc.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki editor - view and edit as one mode

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I would also love to be able to edit/view at the same time. Following this 
conversation!

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 9:35:34 AM UTC+1, Edgaras wrote:
>
> Hello tiddlers,
>
> In the broader tread Redesign of TW 
> , the 
> editor/view is discovered to be the number one focus area to address to 
> simplify the writing experience in TW.
>
> But as *Jeremy *mentioned, it's not an easy thing to change:
>
>> The difference between editing and view mode is hard to hide away. In 
>> TiddlyWiki we have very dynamic markup (like transclusions) where there has 
>> to be a way to switch between editing/viewing the markup and its results.
>
>  
>
>>  I think there’s a lot we could do to improve the editing experience, but 
>> I don’t think there’s a whole lot of low hanging fruit without significant 
>> development within the core.
>
>
> Yet, many of us agree, RoamResearch and Dynalist has a better writing, 
> content production experience. In Roam you write directly as you view and 
> every paragraph is a "tiddler", a modular piece of content that you can 
> reuse, link to (transclusion?)
>
> So I am wondering, are there any existing plugins/efforts or discussions 
> to try to make TiddlyWiki editor more like RoamResearch or Dynalist, where 
> you can can focus on writing/producing content in the same mode as you view 
> it?
>
> Please link me if there is already a particular discussion on this matter. 
> Thanks!
>
> P.S. I already started a very simple .js script 
>  that will create or delete a 
> paragraph  when you tap enter or backspace. Of course, that's is almost 
> nothing to what would need to be done to map all scripts into modular 
> tiddlers/paragraphs. 
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a fairly minimal workflow to import pages from Roam into TiddlyWiki?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oh, this is exciting! Thanks so much for looking into it, Saq.

I think this is a case of needing to figure out what is most intuitive in 
> terms of the end result the user would want, instead of what feels 
> semantically the most correct. I suspect Roam users wont really want 5 
> pages to turn into 100 tiddlers in TW, even if we did create a parent 
> tiddler for each page that transcluded all the tiddlers created from the 
> bullet points. 


I agree with this. I think one page in Roam = one Tiddler in TiddlyWiki.

The tricky thing is, do you turn the children into bullet points, 
> paragraphs? You could even make that a global configuration option but then 
> I suspect users would want to decide on a per tiddler basis... 


For this one I disagree with Yoni. It should be bullet points in TiddlyWiki 
as well, to stay as close as the Roam experience. It will feel more 
intuitive. Very easy in TiddlyWiki to remove bullet points by selecting all 
and removing the list styling.

The tag handling is also difficult because Roam doesn't really have tags, I 
> think what we are referring to as tags are just links. So should we really 
> be trying to create tags from [[link]] or #link? Or do we assume that the 
> links/backlinks that will be generated are the proper representation for 
> this?


Here I think, again in the spirit of staying as close as possible to Roam, 
to not even consider the question of tags. Whether #Title or [[Title]] 
these should all be converted to [[Title]] in TiddlyWiki. It may seem 
extreme but I think that's the cleanest way to respect the original 
structure from Roam and to keep things simple.

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 12:00:22 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Riz: the number of nested children seems unlimited. In Roam the smallest 
> semantic unit seems to be a bullet point, which is member of the childrens 
> array in the JSON.
>
> I think this is a case of needing to figure out what is most intuitive in 
> terms of the end result the user would want, instead of what feels 
> semantically the most correct. I suspect Roam users wont really want 5 
> pages to turn into 100 tiddlers in TW, even if we did create a parent 
> tiddler for each page that transcluded all the tiddlers created from the 
> bullet points. 
>
> The tricky thing is, do you turn the children into bullet points, 
> paragraphs? You could even make that a global configuration option but then 
> I suspect users would want to decide on a per tiddler basis... 
>
> The tag handling is also difficult because Roam doesn't really have tags, 
> I think what we are referring to as tags are just links. So should we 
> really be trying to create tags from [[link]] or #link? Or do we assume 
> that the links/backlinks that will be generated are the proper 
> representation for this?
>
> @yoni I understand your use case and requirements. My approach is to start 
> off step wise and try to put something together that would be useful to 
> others wanting to import from Roam as well. That may mean that there wont 
> be one "plugin" that does what you need, but rather a sequence of 
> steps/plugins working together. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 12:35:43 PM UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>>
>> I was having the same idea as Mark - treat each child as a separate 
>> tiddler. Because that is how usually things are in TW5 - smallest semantic 
>> unit and all. But I guess each child is a bullet point? 
>>
>> JSON mapping would be much easier if you have a definite structure. So if 
>> the children doesn't have another level of children, it makes writing a 
>> generalized importer much easier.
>>
>> On Tue, 5 May 2020, 13:49 Yoni Balkind,  wrote:
>>
>>> Okay so this is looking promising! Thanks @Saq
>>>
>>> The import treats each child as a bullet point. This mimicks the way a 
>>> page looks in Roam, but the idea of publishing on TW is that it reads more 
>>> like a normal post, so I propose that you treat each child as just a 
>>> paragraph (however nested children can still be treated as bulleted lists). 
>>>
>>> I now see an additional problem. This might be too unique to my own 
>>> use-case to warrant you catering for it, but let me tell you anyway in case 
>>> you think its a broad enough problem..
>>>
>>> Roam has no "tag" field per se.. Every internal link is a defacto tag.. 
>>> So for example, the screenshot below shows a Roam note that has 4 different 
>>> internal links. For my purposes, the two links in the top line operate as 
>>> tags. I use these tags to help me locate pages that I've tagged as 
>>> "evergreen notes" and "ready for publish". 
>>>
>>> The 2 links near the bottom of the page are simple internal links to 
>>> cross reference other posts. Roam doesn't know the difference between all 
>>> of these links, I just use them in such a way that the ones on top are 
>>> "tags" for my purposes. 
>>>
>>> Ideally, I'd want the import to ignore the two tags at the top. They are 
>>> internal references that aren't 

[tw5] Re: Sharing Drift

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, this is amazing! I'll add a link to it to my article about Roam 
alternative 珞

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Re: [tw5] Re: Wikipedia-like tooltips

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

David also created a more manual one which may be worth looking into: 
https://giffmex.org/gifts/transclusioninpopups.html

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I guess the tutorial is about generating a website, not customising it, which 
would be a separate tutorial :)

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Also, in case you missed it, there is a much simpler way to export your 
website <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/gEpIkzW5ADU> as 
this weekend. Tutorial here <https://nesslabs.com/digital-garden-tiddlywiki>
.

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 8:26:02 AM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> It's working for me <https://cwdaniels.github.io/Index.html>! I think 
> weirdly Github Pages requires an index.html file and not Index.html in the 
> root folder to detect it automatically.
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 12:55:27 AM UTC+1, C. Wess Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have made progress! Thanks for all the help. 
>>
>> The single quotes worked like a charm and so now my static folder has all 
>> the goodies in it (but it is still not working on final upload). Here my 
>> screenshots:
>>
>> Here’s the output of the index.html when I double-click from the folder.
>>
>> And this is what I have in my GitHub now.
>>
>> However, it is still giving me a 404 error. Any thoughts what is keeping 
>> this back?
>>
>>
>> Any ideas on what I need to do to get this to go public? Or what I may be 
>> doing wrong?
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Wess
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:53:38 PM UTC-4, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone — here 
>>> <https://nesslabs.com/tiddlywiki-static-website-generator> is a short 
>>> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
>>> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

It's working for me <https://cwdaniels.github.io/Index.html>! I think 
weirdly Github Pages requires an index.html file and not Index.html in the 
root folder to detect it automatically.

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 12:55:27 AM UTC+1, C. Wess Daniels wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have made progress! Thanks for all the help. 
>
> The single quotes worked like a charm and so now my static folder has all 
> the goodies in it (but it is still not working on final upload). Here my 
> screenshots:
>
> Here’s the output of the index.html when I double-click from the folder.
>
> And this is what I have in my GitHub now.
>
> However, it is still giving me a 404 error. Any thoughts what is keeping 
> this back?
>
>
> Any ideas on what I need to do to get this to go public? Or what I may be 
> doing wrong?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Wess
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:53:38 PM UTC-4, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone — here 
>> <https://nesslabs.com/tiddlywiki-static-website-generator> is a short 
>> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
>> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a fairly minimal workflow to import pages from Roam into TiddlyWiki?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I was looking at the exact same thing yesterday and couldn't figure it out 
as the structure is quite different. Attaching two sample JSON files for 
people who want to have a look.

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 7:54:05 AM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>
> Hi All 
>
> My intended workflow is to draft notes in Roam, and then if I deem certain 
> notes worthy of publish, I publish them in my public-facing TiddlyWiki. 
>
> However these "published" notes might became quite voluminous and if I 
> update them in Roam I want them to update in my TW as well as it would be 
> too laborious to manually maintain two versions of same notes. 
>
> It seems to me that the way this might be achievable is to do regular JSON 
> exports from Roam, and then to import these into TW, overriding existing 
> Tiddly's with the same name. 
>
> The challenge is as follows:
>
>- Roam does not allow me to export pages with tag X. So I need a 
>mechanism to filter which pages get imported into TW as the JSON file will 
>be full of pages I dont need.
>- The JSON structure is different between Roam and TW, is there a 
>workflow to edit the JSON structure of the Roam file to make it match TW? 
> I 
>suppose a simple search and replace in Notepad++ ? Or is it more complex 
>than that? 
>
>
> I'm not a programmer, and I'm new to TW, so perhaps there are some obvious 
> tricks or well known tools/plugins that I'm missing. 
>
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[tw5] Re: Sharing Drift

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Tony, this is amazing! This includes basically everything I added to my own 
TW, looks like we have a similar use case :)

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 1:03:10 PM UTC+1, Tony K wrote:
>
> Drift is now updated with the latest version of TWCrossLinks 
>  
>
> Drift home is at https://akhater.github.io/drift/
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:37:50 AM UTC+3, Tony K wrote:
>>
>> Just wanted to share "Drift" a place to Collect Organize and Grow your 
>> ideas
>>
>>
>> It has many features but, most important for me, is the "backlinks" or 
>> "bidirectional links" 
>>
>> Needless to say it is inspired by "TiddlyBlink" / "Stroll" just fitted to 
>> my own needs and liking 
>>
>> A demo and more extensive documentation is available at 
>>
>>
>> https://akhater.github.io/drift/
>> Hope it will help someone
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I don't use the prerelease and it works perfectly fine for me just with the 
plugin :)

Here  is a quick tutorial 
and here  is my 
implementation if you want to download it straight away.

Thanks so much again, Jeremy!

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 5:47:09 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> This sounds very promising, thanks a lot. I am looking forward to try it 
> when I find the time.
>
> Am Samstag, 2. Mai 2020 22:36:01 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>>
>> To try it out, visit the prerelease and review the docs:
>>
>
> Do we need the prerelease or only the plugin and TW 5.1.22 ?
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] Re: Notion encourages busy work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I do agree the fact that you can tinker with TW so much is probably part of 
why some people are drawn to it in the first place, but as for myself I can 
definitely see an reversed correlation between time spent tinkering and 
time spent actually writing in TW. :)

That being said, what I like about TW is that once your setup is done (and 
there's really not much that cannot be done), it just works. I never 
managed to get on the Notion bandwagon because it feels like so much work 
at a micro level (organising your folders and figuring out a hierarchy, 
picking an emoji for each of them, displaying data from various places) 
rather than tinkering at the macro level like I can do with TW.

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> One thing to remember with this group is that there is a huge selection 
> bias toward people who want to tinker with tiddlywiki, otherwise they 
> wouldn't post here. I think that most people who use it are like Felicity, 
> who uses it all the time but doesn't have any need for anything past 
> tagging, linking and lists.
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[tw5] Re: Building static sites in the browser

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, this is amazing! Thanks so much, Jeremy. Very useful and much easier 
for less technical users.

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 5:21:11 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>  This is really amazing and this way one can publish small website, blogs, 
> ...
>   Thank you a million!
>
>   Few comments:
>1. The tiddler contains nasty characters in their titles like (space 
> /\;  ) results in uggly filename! Like --render the message 
> tm-zip-render-file can have a filename-filter to avoid this.
>2. If commend 1 is implemented then we need a variable to let correct 
> the links of tiddlers their filename corrected as step 1 above
>
> I see alto of potential here and this plugin can be simple and powerful 
> tool for publishing not only static pages but also epub and like that
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 1:06:01 AM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> A disadvantage for some users of TiddlyWiki’s static site generation 
>> capabilities is the requirement to use Node.js. I’m therefore pleased to 
>> announce an update to the JSZip plugin that makes it practical to render 
>> medium sized static sites in the browser, without needing to use Node.js.
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/6a0ff7db1807f45b73061ced82f5a85f1a529bbf
>>
>> The updated plugin adds a handful of messages that can be used in the 
>> browser to:
>>
>> * create a blank ZIP file as a tiddler of type "application/zip”
>> * add text files to a ZIP tiddler
>> * download a ZIP tiddler as a .zip file
>>
>> To try it out, visit the prerelease and review the docs:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fjszip 
>> 
>>
>> The complete code to save a static site looks like this:
>>
>> \define actions-render-static-site()
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-zip-create" 
>> $param="$:/temp/_ZipTiddler"/>
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]limit[100]]">
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-zip-render-file" 
>> $param="$:/temp/_ZipTiddler" filename={{{ 
>> [encodeuricomponent[]addsuffix[.html]] }}} 
>> tiddler=<> 
>> template="$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html"/>
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-zip-render-file" 
>> $param="$:/temp/_ZipTiddler" filename="static.css" 
>> template="$:/core/templates/static.template.css"/>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-zip-download" 
>> $param="$:/temp/_ZipTiddler" filename="myzip.zip"/>
>> \end
>>
>> <$button actions=<>>
>> Render site
>> 
>>
>>
>> Performance is a bit sluggish with large zip files (>2MB on my desktop 
>> machine) but otherwise it seems to work well. I’ve got an idea for 
>> improving performance that I’ll work on if I have time.
>>
>> Questions and comments welcome.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks Mohammad! Just want to confirm this would not throw the zsh error 
Wess got?

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 5:51:25 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure
>
> Still part 2. Export your TiddlyWiki as a static website can be simplified
> no need to enter those commands in the terminal! You have already them in 
> your tiddlywiki.info!
>
> -Mohammad
>
> On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 12:07:33 AM UTC+4:30, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Done, thank you!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> @Jeremy: thanks so much for explaining the "build" command, makes lots 
>>>> of sense! I created a build.sh file instead as I didn't know there was a 
>>>> native method. Really cool.
>>>>
>>>> @Wess: I'm not sure what's going wrong but hopefully '[!is[system]]' 
>>>> will work for you.
>>>>
>>>> @Burning Tree: Is what's happening to Wess common? Wondering if I 
>>>> should the command to '[!is[system]]' in the tutorial. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>
>>> '[!is[system]]'  works for both bash and zsh, while [!is[system]] 
>>> doesn't work for zsh... some users (like me) use zsh as their default 
>>> shell, so maybe it's better to update the docs :)
>>>  
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:06:19 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Burning Tree - 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It gives me the same error when I try that way also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, single quotes like '[!is[system]]'  should work 
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 3:54:55 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saq - 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay I ran:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then deleted "myfirstwiki" folder and reinstalled everything (in 
>>>>>>>> Anne-Laure's first section). 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I then ran the command:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] $:/core/templates/static.
>>>>>>>> tiddler.html static text/plain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And am still getting the same error: zsh: event not found: 
>>>>>>>> is[system]]? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As it says, this is a zsh error. It interprets [!is[system]] as a 
>>>>>>> SHELL command...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does it work if you use "[!is[system]]" instead (note the quotes)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should I just go through the rest of the steps anyway using that 
>>>>>>>> other line of code? with "[tag[live]]" or is there something else 
>>>>>>>> I should do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Wess
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wess
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:57:14 AM UTC-4, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wess, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try to run this:
>>>>>>>>> path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suspect npm isn't on your PATH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And then re-run the TiddlyWiki command 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Done, thank you!

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> @Jeremy: thanks so much for explaining the "build" command, makes lots of 
>> sense! I created a build.sh file instead as I didn't know there was a 
>> native method. Really cool.
>>
>> @Wess: I'm not sure what's going wrong but hopefully '[!is[system]]' will 
>> work for you.
>>
>> @Burning Tree: Is what's happening to Wess common? Wondering if I should 
>> the command to '[!is[system]]' in the tutorial. Thank you!
>>
>
> '[!is[system]]'  works for both bash and zsh, while [!is[system]] doesn't 
> work for zsh... some users (like me) use zsh as their default shell, so 
> maybe it's better to update the docs :)
>  
>
>>
>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:06:19 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Burning Tree - 

 It gives me the same error when I try that way also.

>>>
>>> Sorry, single quotes like '[!is[system]]'  should work 
>>>

 W

 On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 3:54:55 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> Saq - 
>>
>> Okay I ran:
>>
>> path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')
>>
>> Then deleted "myfirstwiki" folder and reinstalled everything (in 
>> Anne-Laure's first section). 
>>
>> I then ran the command:
>>
>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] $:/core/templates/static.
>> tiddler.html static text/plain
>>
>> And am still getting the same error: zsh: event not found: 
>> is[system]]? 
>>
>
> As it says, this is a zsh error. It interprets [!is[system]] as a 
> SHELL command...
>
> Does it work if you use "[!is[system]]" instead (note the quotes)?
>
>>
>> Should I just go through the rest of the steps anyway using that 
>> other line of code? with "[tag[live]]" or is there something else I 
>> should do?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Wess
>>
>> Wess
>>
>> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:57:14 AM UTC-4, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> Wess, 
>>>
>>> Try to run this:
>>> path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')
>>>
>>> I suspect npm isn't on your PATH
>>>
>>> And then re-run the TiddlyWiki command 
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll: last call for experimenting

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Yay! I'm excited about Stroll itself but also about the work you put into 
making it accessible to newcomers — thank you! This is one of the most 
comprehensive interactive tutorials I've seen so far.

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:19:53 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I finally got around to updating Stroll (replacement for my TiddlyBlink). 
> I think it is just about ready. Here is the link:
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.experiment.html
>
> Play with it until you find its flaws. Be merciless. Make it bleed. Then 
> let me know what needs bandaging or amputating. You have one week.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

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[tw5] Re: [doc] The BIG PICTURE of TiddlyWiki - an overview

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, this was a great read. Thanks so much, Mat, and agreed this should be 
on TW.com!

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 3:03:23 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Birthe,
>
> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:23:03 PM UTC+4:30, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> I think the problem is the definition of beginner. New to tiddlywiki, yes 
>> - but bringing different knowledge.
>>
>
> True! I mean beginner as a general and I ignore their background!
>  
>
>> Look at the questions from beginners in this group. Would those questions 
>> be answered from a beginner tutorial?
>> The wish list is often, I want to do this, that and also much more, is 
>> that difficult and how do I do it
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Jeremy: thanks so much for explaining the "build" command, makes lots of 
sense! I created a build.sh file instead as I didn't know there was a 
native method. Really cool.

@Wess: I'm not sure what's going wrong but hopefully '[!is[system]]' will 
work for you.

@Burning Tree: Is what's happening to Wess common? Wondering if I should 
the command to '[!is[system]]' in the tutorial. Thank you!

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:06:19 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> Burning Tree - 
>>
>> It gives me the same error when I try that way also.
>>
>
> Sorry, single quotes like '[!is[system]]'  should work 
>
>>
>> W
>>
>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 3:54:55 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Saq - 

 Okay I ran:

 path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')

 Then deleted "myfirstwiki" folder and reinstalled everything (in 
 Anne-Laure's first section). 

 I then ran the command:

 tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] $:/core/templates/static.
 tiddler.html static text/plain

 And am still getting the same error: zsh: event not found: is[system]]? 

>>>
>>> As it says, this is a zsh error. It interprets [!is[system]] as a SHELL 
>>> command...
>>>
>>> Does it work if you use "[!is[system]]" instead (note the quotes)?
>>>

 Should I just go through the rest of the steps anyway using that other 
 line of code? with "[tag[live]]" or is there something else I should 
 do?

 Cheers,
 Wess

 Wess

 On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:57:14 AM UTC-4, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Wess, 
>
> Try to run this:
> path+=('~/.npm-global/bin')
>
> I suspect npm isn't on your PATH
>
> And then re-run the TiddlyWiki command 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Rethinking tiddlywiki.com

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wanted to share another source of inspiration: https://supernotes.app/

p.s. I know the founder of Marketing Examples, such a great resource!

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 12:06:56 PM UTC+1, shashank wrote:
>
> Since, it's the visual/perception/UX/ marketing aspects where Tiddly has 
> some ground to cover, I recommend also keeping having a look an the various 
> nifty tips on https://marketingexamples.com/
>
> also, adding some sources for landing page inspiration: 
> - User Onboarding videos of different sites: 
> https://pageflows.com/desktop/
> - Actionable Best practices for different sections of a site like Hero, 
> Features, Testimonials: https://saaspages.xyz/blocks/hero/
>
>
> Themes/Templates:
> https://www.landingfolio.com/inspiration/landing-page/?offset=3
> https://webflow.com/templates/search-results#stq=landing%20page
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:31:12 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Anne-Laure Le Cunff posted this in a different thread (
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/161921e0-395e-46b9-8179-dd853fbb21ed%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/161921e0-395e-46b9-8179-dd853fbb21ed%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>)
>>  
>> but I think it’s worth making a new thread for it:
>>
>> I have to agree it's been hard to convince people to give TiddlyWiki a 
>> proper try, mainly I think because of the experience for a new user. The 
>> landing page is confusing, saving/backing up your notes seems unnecessarily 
>> complicated. Ideally, there should be a regular static landing page 
>> containing:
>>
>>- What TiddlyWiki is
>>- A nice screenshot or walkthrough video
>>- How to easily get started in 3 steps (download/create your first 
>>note/save)
>>- Link to docs.tiddlywiki.com (current tiddlywiki.com) with a welcome 
>>page listing concepts to explore *in order* for people who have 
>>installed everything and are ready to dive in
>>- Link to this community + Twitter for extra help
>>
>> A few examples:
>>
>>- https://www.gatsbyjs.org/
>>- https://www.notion.so/
>>- https://roamresearch.com/
>>
>> I think this would do *a lot* to help grow the TW community!
>>
>>
>> I think this is solid advice, and we should act on it.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Internal linking workflow

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much, everyone! Looks like most of you are used to WikiText, I 
should probably get onboard! Saq gave me a potential workaround in another 
thread which I'll try later today.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 2:38:34 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Type a few letters of your link in the search bar. When your tiddler 
> appears, drag and drop it into the tiddler. 
>
> Probably the ultimate solution would be to hack the automatic linker so 
> that it works inside of markdown.
>
> For those not following the other threads, Anne has found a markdown 
> plugin that recognizes [[*]] syntax.
>
> For better or worse, MD is the de facto industry markup language. It's 
> supported in web forums (reddit, duolingo, github) and has browser 
> extensions built for it. It is recognized by converters (pandoc). 
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:45:55 AM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I just wanted to ask how you go about linking between your various 
>> tiddlers. I use TiddlyBlink to autosuggest internal links, but since I 
>> recently discovered 
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/DF20RJc5gqk/-MqbqaOSBAAJ> 
>> all of the markdown plugins are incompatible either with the [[*]] syntax 
>> or with links autosuggestion, I'm wondering how everyone goes about linking 
>> a new tiddler to an existing one?
>>
>> Do you just know the titles of all of your tiddlers by heart and type 
>> them from memory?
>>
>> Do you use <$link>Title of target tiddler or Title of target tiddler instead of [[Title of target 
>> tiddler]]?
>>
>> Do you just not interlink your tiddlers together that often so you don't 
>> care?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Amazing, thank you so much!

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 2:55:33 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> If you want the comptext plugin (which is what TiddlyBlink uses) to 
> support autocompletion of [[title]] format links in markdown tiddlers:
>
>- Create a tiddler with the title 
>$:/config/EditorTypeMappings/text/x-markdown
>
>- Where the text of the tiddler is 
>comptext
>
>
> Under the hood what is happening here is that we are telling TiddlyWiki to 
> use the comptext editor to edit markdown tiddlers. 
>
> The comptext plugin replaces the standard editor with its own editor. Note 
> also that the comptext plugin could be tweaked to support native markdown 
> link syntax as well, you will just need to brush up on regexp and tweak the 
> template json at the top of the
>  $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/completion.js tiddler
>
> Hope this helps,
> Saq
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:38:14 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> This is unfortunately incompatible with the autocomplete feature of 
>> TiddlyBlink, so I had to disable it :(
>>
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 3:08:00 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, thanks so much, Vaughn!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC+1, ludwa6 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant!  Just installed, this appears to be working like a champ, 
>>>> even with internal links.  Thanks, Vaughn!
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:43:31 PM UTC+1, Vaughn Papenhausen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I found this alternate markdown plugin, which does appear to 
>>>>> support wikilinks: http://demo.santosa.family/#tw5-markdown
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Internal linking workflow

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask how you go about linking between your various 
tiddlers. I use TiddlyBlink to autosuggest internal links, but since I 
recently discovered 
 all 
of the markdown plugins are incompatible either with the [[*]] syntax or 
with links autosuggestion, I'm wondering how everyone goes about linking a 
new tiddler to an existing one?

Do you just know the titles of all of your tiddlers by heart and type them 
from memory?

Do you use <$link>Title of target tiddler or Title of target tiddler instead of [[Title of target 
tiddler]]?

Do you just not interlink your tiddlers together that often so you don't 
care?

Thank you!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Edgaras,

This demo is amazing! A couple of thoughts:

   - Love the clean design, I find it both relaxing and inviting and could 
   see myself write more with TW with such an interface.
   - Yay for proper markdown integration out of the box! Not a question for 
   you, but more with the developer you will partner with on this, but would 
   it be possible to get both markdown as found in this plugin 
    and autocomplete for internal 
   links as found in TiddlyBlink? They currently don't work together.
   - Maybe move the mentions at the bottom of the writing or somewhere 
   else? I think the dropdown menu at the top may make them feel like a second 
   thought. I think at the bottom of the writing area with area with a little 
   expand/collapse icon may be an interesting option to explore (similar to 
   what Roam did).
   - Even though I agree (as discussed previously) we should not make the 
   settings/tools as central as it currently is in the default TW theme, I 
   don't think there is any link to it at all right now? People will still 
   need access to their settings.

Overall this looks amazing and I'm super excited to follow your progress! 
Thanks so much for your work on this.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 8:32:26 AM UTC+1, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Regarding the navigation, I installed Ton Gerner's tiddlerbar plug-in 
> because of the same problem you describe. I find the tiddlerbar solved it. 
> When you have many tids open the bar just overflows into an extra line of 
> tabs. 
>
>
>
> 29 Apr 2020, 10:29 by edgar...@gmail.com :
>
> Thank you for in the depth feedback peeps! This really helps to consider 
> more aspects and improve the design.
>
> ––
>
> For default it is not a good idea because the user needs to understand the 
> concept of tiddlers and the framing helps with this conceptualization.
>
> *Mat* is see what you mean now! I agree with you and maybe even in this 
> theme, tiddlers should stay modular, and have the story view, it has many 
> advantages! There are few things that bothers me in the story view and I 
> want to address those. For example, I loose track of navigation when I jump 
> from one to another tiddler. Maybe I need arrows <   > so I can quickly 
> navigate from where I've been before and combine with breadcrumbs. I 
> already have that in the prototype and I can try to prototype 
>
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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

This is unfortunately incompatible with the autocomplete feature of 
TiddlyBlink, so I had to disable it :(

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 3:08:00 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Wow, thanks so much, Vaughn!
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC+1, ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>> Brilliant!  Just installed, this appears to be working like a champ, even 
>> with internal links.  Thanks, Vaughn!
>>
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:43:31 PM UTC+1, Vaughn Papenhausen wrote:
>>>
>>> So I found this alternate markdown plugin, which does appear to support 
>>> wikilinks: http://demo.santosa.family/#tw5-markdown
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: An amazing New Project Manager (todo) Plugin + Notebook Theme+ Notebook Color Palette

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, this is amazing. Thank you, Nico!

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:07:20 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> A new community member *Nicolas Petton* has recently shared a wonderful 
> project manager (todo) plugin
> plus a semantic and very clean theme and color palette!
>
> These absolutely worth to give a try!
>
> See his original post here:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/F2Y-c7Dt0Ro/eRfrbz_cBQAJ
>
> Demo is here
> https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html
>
> Thank you Nico!
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing backlinks

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Willem,

Looking at the code in $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludeclean it 
looks like this:

<$list 
filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]!tag[outlines]sort[title]] 
-[is[current]]"><$link><$view field="title"/><$link><$transclude field="text" 
mode="block" />


The only thing I did was take what was in the file and add a new tag for 
each of your categories. You can try it too. So in your case it could be be:

+ Case Law:

<$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]!tag[outlines]
*tag[caselaw]*sort[title]] -[is[current]]"><$link><$view 
field="title"/><$link><$transclude field="text" mode="block" 
/>



+ Literature:

<$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]!tag[outlines]
*tag[literature]*sort[title]] -[is[current]]"><$link><$view 
field="title"/><$link><$transclude field="text" mode="block" 
/>


Again, not sure this works but I imagine it would be the general idea.


On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:12:57 PM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>
> Ah I see, great!
>
> Your solution is getting me closer and closer, but I'm not there yet :)
>
> First, I don't have the /refstranscludecollapse but the r
> efstranscludeclean. 
>
> Then, when I replace the code under References with yours, it only seems 
> to work for the tag caselaw not for literature:
>
>
> [image: Schermafbeelding 2020-04-27 om 13.07.33.png]
>
> In a test, with two tiddlers tagged caselaw and two tiddlers tagged 
> literature , bot linked to the Human Rights tiddler it looks like this:
>
> [image: Schermafbeelding 2020-04-27 om 13.08.51.png]
>
>
>
>
> Op maandag 27 april 2020 12:47:52 UTC+2 schreef Anne-Laure Le Cunff:
>>
>> Awesome - what I meant is go to the sidebar, then click on the "more" 
>> tab, then click on "System", then search for $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/
>> refstranscludecollapse and open it in edit mode.
>>
>> Have a look at the code there. It's the code that generates your 
>> reference list. You could paste the code I sent you under References: 
>>  and create a few articles with the tags caselaw or literature that 
>> link back to a specific page to test it.
>>
>> I'm absolutely not sure my solution works, so please do a backup 
>> beforehand or try it on a copy of your current wiki.
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 11:28:37 AM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Anne-Laure,
>>>
>>> Many thanks voor your suggestion and thank you for introducing 
>>> TiddlyWiki in the Ness Labs newsletter! 
>>>
>>> I'm using TiddlyBlink indeed, forgot to mention it. At the moment I have 
>>> no clue what to do with the code yet, but I think I will manage to figure 
>>> it out. If not, you will hear from me soon :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op maandag 27 april 2020 10:20:40 UTC+2 schreef Anne-Laure Le Cunff:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Willem,
>>>>
>>>> I assume you're using TiddlyBlink for your backlinks? If so I think 
>>>> there may be something to do in the 
>>>> $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse file like this:
>>>>
>>>> + Case Law: 
>>>>
>>>> <$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]
>>>> *tag[caselaw]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]] -[is[current]]"><$link><$view 
>>>> field="title"/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> + Literature: 
>>>>
>>>> <$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]
>>>> *tag[literature]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]] 
>>>> -[is[current]]"><$link><$view field="title"/> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully David Gifford (who created TiddlyBlink) can jump in to 
>>>> confirm as I'm far from being an expert!
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:18:32 AM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>
>>>>> Only yesterday I discovered TiddlyWiki, so I'm totally new to this. 
>>>>> Since the possibilities are limitless, or so it seems, I was wondering if 
>>>>> someone can help me out with the following. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to organize the tiddler's backlinks and display them 
>>>>> sorted by subject.
>>>>>
>>>>&g

[tw5] Re: Organizing backlinks

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Awesome - what I meant is go to the sidebar, then click on the "more" tab, 
then click on "System", then search for $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/
refstranscludecollapse and open it in edit mode.

Have a look at the code there. It's the code that generates your reference 
list. You could paste the code I sent you under References:  and create 
a few articles with the tags caselaw or literature that link back to a 
specific page to test it.

I'm absolutely not sure my solution works, so please do a backup beforehand 
or try it on a copy of your current wiki.

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 11:28:37 AM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>
> Hey Anne-Laure,
>
> Many thanks voor your suggestion and thank you for introducing TiddlyWiki 
> in the Ness Labs newsletter! 
>
> I'm using TiddlyBlink indeed, forgot to mention it. At the moment I have 
> no clue what to do with the code yet, but I think I will manage to figure 
> it out. If not, you will hear from me soon :)
>
>
>
>
> Op maandag 27 april 2020 10:20:40 UTC+2 schreef Anne-Laure Le Cunff:
>>
>> Hi Willem,
>>
>> I assume you're using TiddlyBlink for your backlinks? If so I think there 
>> may be something to do in the 
>> $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse file like this:
>>
>> + Case Law: 
>>
>> <$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]
>> *tag[caselaw]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]] -[is[current]]"><$link><$view 
>> field="title"/>
>>
>>
>> + Literature: 
>>
>> <$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]
>> *tag[literature]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]] 
>> -[is[current]]"><$link><$view field="title"/> 
>>
>>
>> Hopefully David Gifford (who created TiddlyBlink) can jump in to confirm 
>> as I'm far from being an expert!
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:18:32 AM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> Only yesterday I discovered TiddlyWiki, so I'm totally new to this. 
>>> Since the possibilities are limitless, or so it seems, I was wondering if 
>>> someone can help me out with the following. 
>>>
>>> I would like to organize the tiddler's backlinks and display them sorted 
>>> by subject.
>>>
>>> I also would like to show the specific fragment (and nothing else) the 
>>> link is refering to in the list 
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> --Tiddler--
>>> About Human Rights
>>>
>>> --References/backlinks--
>>>
>>> + Legislation
>>> Tiddler about art. A, law Z
>>> (Art. A mentions -Human Rights-) 
>>>
>>> Tiddler about art. B, law Z
>>> (This art. can also be used when conducting research about -human 
>>> rights-) 
>>>
>>>
>>> + Case Law
>>> Tiddler about case H
>>> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>>>
>>> Tiddler about case I
>>> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>>>
>>>
>>> +Literature
>>> Tiddler about book A
>>> (textfragment -human rights-)
>>>  
>>> Tiddler about book B
>>> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this (or something similar) is possible! Can someone help me out? 
>>> :) 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> Willem
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Your method generates one file, which is your TiddlyWiki, correct? It's not 
a static website generator, it's just TiddlyWiki out of the box. You are 
basically hosting your instance of TiddlyWiki online, which is great but 
not what this tutorial is about.

Compare this  with 
what you accomplished and you will see the difference.

Also attached a screenshots of the files that get generated by the static 
website method. Again, compare to your TiddlyWiki file.

Last example:

   1. TiddlyWiki.com is created with the method you used
   2. TiddlyWiki.com/static 
   

 
   is created with the static website generator

I hope that helps.


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>
> Maybe I do not understand what a "generator" accomplishes
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing backlinks

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Willem,

I assume you're using TiddlyBlink for your backlinks? If so I think there 
may be something to do in the 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse file like this:

+ Case Law: 

<$list 
filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]*tag[caselaw]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]]
 
-[is[current]]"><$link><$view field="title"/>


+ Literature: 

<$list filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[hide]
*tag[literature]*!tag[outlines]sort[title]] -[is[current]]"><$link><$view 
field="title"/> 


Hopefully David Gifford (who created TiddlyBlink) can jump in to confirm as 
I'm far from being an expert!

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:18:32 AM UTC+1, Willem Hagendoorn wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> Only yesterday I discovered TiddlyWiki, so I'm totally new to this. Since 
> the possibilities are limitless, or so it seems, I was wondering if someone 
> can help me out with the following. 
>
> I would like to organize the tiddler's backlinks and display them sorted 
> by subject.
>
> I also would like to show the specific fragment (and nothing else) the 
> link is refering to in the list 
>
> For example:
>
> --Tiddler--
> About Human Rights
>
> --References/backlinks--
>
> + Legislation
> Tiddler about art. A, law Z
> (Art. A mentions -Human Rights-) 
>
> Tiddler about art. B, law Z
> (This art. can also be used when conducting research about -human rights-) 
>
>
> + Case Law
> Tiddler about case H
> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>
> Tiddler about case I
> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>
>
> +Literature
> Tiddler about book A
> (textfragment -human rights-)
>  
> Tiddler about book B
> (textfragment -human rights-) 
>
>
> I hope this (or something similar) is possible! Can someone help me out? 
> :) 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Willem
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [rendertiddlers] filter not working

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Just looked here 

 (which 
has been updated recently), and maybe you need to do the following?

tiddlywiki *myfirstwiki* --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain


If that's the case I'll update my tutorial.


On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:29:25 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi Abram,
>
> this has probably something to do with your zsh shell that's being used. 
> try "[!is[system]]" - does that work?
>
>
> Hello
>>
>> I'm trying to export my tiddlywiki as a static site, following this 
>> tutorial: https://nesslabs.com/tiddlywiki-static-website-generator
>>
>> When I try to enter this into the terminal:
>>
>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
>> $:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain
>>
>> I get this error:
>> zsh: event not found: is[system]]
>>
>>
>> I know I setup the wiki correctly, because when I try to use: 
>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers "[tag[live]]" 
>> $:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain
>>
>> it works just fine!
>>
>> Is there a problem
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks Jeffrey!

   - Dashes — I fixed these about ten hours ago, way before you posted this 
   message, are you sure that's still the case or were you maybe drafting this 
   for a while?
   - You can use TW5.html or TW Node.js for your personal wiki, but if you 
   want to use TW as a static website generator you need to use the Node.js 
   version.
   - I can't comment on your ideal use case as it's quite out of scope, but 
   I hope you found the tutorial useful nonetheless, and really appreciate the 
   feedback!


On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 10:00:57 PM UTC+1, Jeffrey Honeycutt wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure - I love your work on this - I have a few missing pieces, 
> especially when "taking it to the next level"...
>
> Constructive criticism, turned into a question, then an attempted demo of 
> TW5 -> static website...
>
> Terminal commands display incorrectly
>
>- The font used to display the terminal command instructions smashes a - 
>- double dash (no space between) into a single slightly longer dash, 
>which makes the terminal command inoperable
>
> Single TW5.html vs. Node.js
>
>- I need to know the Pros and Cons of having a single TW5.html file 
>versus deploying TW5 as a bunch of files using Node.js
>- I am particularly interested in the sustainment of a specific 
>process (ALLeCunff 
><#64f919da-23cb-4e35-9abb-f053c0dc33b5@googlegroups.com_ALLeCunff> calls 
>it "taking it to the next level")
>
> My ideal use case:
>
>- I keep (almost) all my wiki data in a growing single TW5.html file 
>(currently over 20 Mbytes). Images and audio files are external calls. 
> This 
>master file contains private data as well as stuff I would like to post on 
>my blog.
>- I would like to do all my editting and updating in this "master 
>wiki" which I access via TiddlyDesktop.
>- Any tiddler that I want seen on my blog gets tagged "Public".
>- With as little effort as possible (after setup), I would like my 
>personal gitHub repository to have the tiddlers (tagged Public) available 
>for viewing.
>- Big Bonus for ability to register visitors and grant selective 
>permission to access topics (an AirBnb treehouse in Costa Rica, a medical 
>journal club, an entrepreneurship venture in development...)
>
> Link re: *Progress so far 
> <#64f919da-23cb-4e35-9abb-f053c0dc33b5@googlegroups.com_TW5%20as%20website%20generator>*
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Re: [tw5] Zettelkasten Questions

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

It's not a TiddlyWiki theme, it's just Bootstrap <https://getbootstrap.com/> 
:) My TW uses the default theme.

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 10:05:37 PM UTC+1, Tony K wrote:
>
> Anne the theme you are using for your website is so clean
>
> any chance you have one similar but dark mode?
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 10:27:33 PM UTC+3, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>> Welcome to the community! I use TiddlyBlink myself and it's doing an 
>> amazing job so far.
>>
>> In terms of themes, here are some that were recently shared:
>>
>> - http://j.d.tiddlyspot.com/
>> - http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>> - http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/
>> - http://j.d.search.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>> - http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> I hope that helps!
>>
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 6:31:47 PM UTC+1, Peter Buyze wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the TiddlyWiki community. I am a newbie myself, and have for 
>>> the last 5 years been taking notes and trying to set up a Zettelkasten. I 
>>> did not find the right app that fully satisfied me, mainly because I found 
>>> that simply linking notes was not enough to get a sort of dialogue with the 
>>> Zettelkasten, as the Zk father Niklas Luhmann used to say.
>>>
>>> I rediscovered TiddlyWiki a couple of weeks ago, having sniffed at it a 
>>> few years ago and ran away screaming. This time, however, after 
>>> familiarising myself a tiny bit more with HTML, I fell in love with the 
>>> tool. Without exaggeration I would say it is probably by far one of the 
>>> best, if not THE best tool for a Zk.
>>>
>>> The only drawback from my side is that, like your friend, I am still a 
>>> stranger to HTML, that is to say, to the scripting/coding part of it. 
>>> Scripting/coding (I am not even sure what to call it) are important with TW 
>>> if you want to make full use of this incredibly flexible and varied tool. 
>>> Having said that, there are also many plug-ins to extend its functionality, 
>>> so for my purposes I am more or less, almost, where I need to be.
>>>
>>> I cannot answer your 2 specific questions, but can confirm that this 
>>> forum is an extremely good, helpful, and friendly one, and for someone like 
>>> you with HTML experience you will learn a lot and get a lot of pleasure out 
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> BTW I useTiddlyBlink and installed the toolmap (= like TiddlyRoam, if I 
>>> am not mistaken), which is an unbeatable Zk combination.
>>> Good luck, and enjoy!!
>>> Peter
>>>
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>>> 26 Apr 2020, 20:09 by joshua@gmail.com:
>>>
>>> Hi! I'm new to Tiddlywiki. My coding background involves some coding 
>>> experience (I used to code and network for Building Management Solutions 
>>> involving HVAC/Lighting Control/Security) but very little by way of HTML. 
>>> I'm also new to Tiddlywiki. So, please treat me like a child. 
>>>
>>> My interests are research. My friend, who has a PhD in philosophy, and I 
>>> research together in the hope of writing books on philosophy and theology. 
>>> Specifically, for any ners out there, I'm interested in Thomistic 
>>> Philosophy, Speculative History, and ethics within technology. I also work 
>>> a lot with Hermeneutics and basic apologetic subjects, such as the Kalam, 
>>> Historical case for Ressurrection, ect.
>>>
>>> I say all that because I've been trying to get together a note taking 
>>> system with a few goals in mind. 
>>>
>>> 1. A place where all notes on all subjects, even my bread making 
>>> obsession, can be placed.
>>>
>>> 2. A place where those notes are not locked by hierarchical limitations 
>>> but can "interact" with one another. A big part of my interest in writing 
>>> is taking two seemingly unconnected subjects and connecting them in new 
>>> ways. I think that's one of the essential skills all philosophers need to 
>>> develop. If all of my thoughts are then able to be logically connected in 
>>> long chains of thoughts which can be later followed up and fleshed out in a 
>>> chapter, that is very useful. 
>>>
>>> 3. The ability to collaborate. Not only do I want my thoughts to collide 
>>> with each other but I want to 

Re: [tw5] Zettelkasten Questions

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Joshua,

Welcome to the community! I use TiddlyBlink myself and it's doing an 
amazing job so far.

In terms of themes, here are some that were recently shared:

- http://j.d.tiddlyspot.com/
- http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
- http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/
- http://j.d.search.tiddlyspot.com/ 
- http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/

I hope that helps!

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 6:31:47 PM UTC+1, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Joshua,
>
> Welcome to the TiddlyWiki community. I am a newbie myself, and have for 
> the last 5 years been taking notes and trying to set up a Zettelkasten. I 
> did not find the right app that fully satisfied me, mainly because I found 
> that simply linking notes was not enough to get a sort of dialogue with the 
> Zettelkasten, as the Zk father Niklas Luhmann used to say.
>
> I rediscovered TiddlyWiki a couple of weeks ago, having sniffed at it a 
> few years ago and ran away screaming. This time, however, after 
> familiarising myself a tiny bit more with HTML, I fell in love with the 
> tool. Without exaggeration I would say it is probably by far one of the 
> best, if not THE best tool for a Zk.
>
> The only drawback from my side is that, like your friend, I am still a 
> stranger to HTML, that is to say, to the scripting/coding part of it. 
> Scripting/coding (I am not even sure what to call it) are important with TW 
> if you want to make full use of this incredibly flexible and varied tool. 
> Having said that, there are also many plug-ins to extend its functionality, 
> so for my purposes I am more or less, almost, where I need to be.
>
> I cannot answer your 2 specific questions, but can confirm that this forum 
> is an extremely good, helpful, and friendly one, and for someone like you 
> with HTML experience you will learn a lot and get a lot of pleasure out of 
> it.
>
> BTW I useTiddlyBlink and installed the toolmap (= like TiddlyRoam, if I am 
> not mistaken), which is an unbeatable Zk combination.
> Good luck, and enjoy!!
> Peter
>
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> 26 Apr 2020, 20:09 by joshua@gmail.com :
>
> Hi! I'm new to Tiddlywiki. My coding background involves some coding 
> experience (I used to code and network for Building Management Solutions 
> involving HVAC/Lighting Control/Security) but very little by way of HTML. 
> I'm also new to Tiddlywiki. So, please treat me like a child. 
>
> My interests are research. My friend, who has a PhD in philosophy, and I 
> research together in the hope of writing books on philosophy and theology. 
> Specifically, for any ners out there, I'm interested in Thomistic 
> Philosophy, Speculative History, and ethics within technology. I also work 
> a lot with Hermeneutics and basic apologetic subjects, such as the Kalam, 
> Historical case for Ressurrection, ect.
>
> I say all that because I've been trying to get together a note taking 
> system with a few goals in mind. 
>
> 1. A place where all notes on all subjects, even my bread making 
> obsession, can be placed.
>
> 2. A place where those notes are not locked by hierarchical limitations 
> but can "interact" with one another. A big part of my interest in writing 
> is taking two seemingly unconnected subjects and connecting them in new 
> ways. I think that's one of the essential skills all philosophers need to 
> develop. If all of my thoughts are then able to be logically connected in 
> long chains of thoughts which can be later followed up and fleshed out in a 
> chapter, that is very useful. 
>
> 3. The ability to collaborate. Not only do I want my thoughts to collide 
> with each other but I want to "accidentally" bump into my friend's thoughts 
> and whoever else might join. This also forces this to be completely on the 
> cloud. 
>
> 4. User friendly. My friend is not very technical. He is an incredibly 
> creative thinker, as his dissertation which synthesized a huge amount of 
> thought shows, but he is not analytical like myself. So, I need something 
> user friendly. 
>
> Right now I'm thinking that TiddlyRoam or TiddlyBlink will be the best fit 
> for me. I do have a few questions though. 
>
> 1. How do I change the styling? Are there themes I can easily embed in the 
> code? Back in the day I used to code CSS and HTML for personal pages, 
> though I've gotten away from that. Any experience with these specific 
> distributions of the Tiddlywiki platform as far as style? I'd like to stay 
> away from plugins and just change the HTML file permanently. 
>
> 2. Any experiences or thoughts? I just found Tiddlywiki yesterday after 
> taking with an IT friend of mine about my goals. So my knowledge base is 
> very limited. 
>
> Thanks in advance. This platform is incredibly exciting. I don't want to 
> use Roam as I want to own my thoughts so the work you all are doing is 
> incredibly useful. 
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[tw5] Re: Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Ha, I used this <https://github.com/dullroar/TW5-sitemap> but looks like I 
missed some steps! I somehow thought it was a native functionality. Thank 
you!

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 11:39:29 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> What plugin are you using for the sitemap? As far as I am aware, there is 
> no built in support in TiddlyWiki for generating a sitemap.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:44:07 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I added the following command to my build.sh file in order to generate a 
>> sitemap of my TiddlyWiki static website:
>>
>> --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>
>>
>> So my full render command looks like this now:
>>
>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
>> $:/ness_labs/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain 
>> --rendertiddler $:/ness_labs/templates/static.template.css 
>> static/static.css text/plain --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain
>>
>>
>> I do get a sitemap.xml file, but it's empty. Is there anything else I 
>> should do beside using this command?
>>
>> (all of this will be going into a SEO guide for TW btw!)
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Anne-Laure.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, thanks so much, Vaughn!

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC+1, ludwa6 wrote:
>
> Brilliant!  Just installed, this appears to be working like a champ, even 
> with internal links.  Thanks, Vaughn!
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:43:31 PM UTC+1, Vaughn Papenhausen wrote:
>>
>> So I found this alternate markdown plugin, which does appear to support 
>> wikilinks: http://demo.santosa.family/#tw5-markdown
>
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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oh, thank you, it worked!

Curious what these much complex steps 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html>
 in 
the official documentation bring to the table?

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:46:30 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Anne-Laure
> If you run the code from root folder of wiki, just type as below
>
> tiddlywiki --build static
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:58:13 PM UTC+4:30, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> Thank you! I just tried it and get the attached error, am I doing 
>> something wrong?
>>
>> Am I correct to do this in the root folder of the wiki?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 3:53:35 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Anne-Laure,
>>>  
>>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 7:23:38 AM UTC+4:30, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone — here 
>>>> <https://nesslabs.com/tiddlywiki-static-website-generator> is a short 
>>>> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
>>>> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just read the whole tutorial! one comment:
>>>
>>> In *2. Export your TiddlyWiki as a static website*
>>>
>>> You have asked to copy paste some commands in terminal and run one by 
>>> one or create a setup.sh to make the static website BUT
>>>
>>> When you create your wiki using 
>>>
>>> tiddlywiki myfirstwiki --init server
>>>
>>>
>>> Tiddlywiki creates a tiddlywiki.info in *myfirstwik *folder, you can 
>>> use it like below
>>>
>>> tiddlywiki myfirstwiki --build static
>>>
>>>
>>> and it does all the magic and no need for those headaches! specially if 
>>> this targets beginners.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Yes, other apps I use don't seem to have this issue. My muscle memory of 
[[*]] is too strong to make the effort to use another style :)

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:14:57 PM UTC+1, ludwa6 wrote:
>
> i see;  this is indeed a vexing problem. For my part, i will keep the 
> Markdown plugin installed for those cases where the tiddler is written for 
> export purposes -in which case, internal links could be problematic in 
> context of export- so this plugin is still has its UseCase for me. 
>
> But i still don't see as how the [[*]] notation conflicts with Markdown; 
> try it in any Markdown editor, and it looks to me like the notation is not 
> transformed in the rendering.  This [alternative notation]{#InternalLink) 
> does work; just looks kinda weird in a foreign context like this, doesn't 
> it?
>
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 11:55:20 AM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! I'm familiar with markdown syntax including links, but the 
>> markdown link syntax is conflicting with the wikitext syntax as discussed 
>> earlier. Not using markdown for now with TW as most of my links are 
>> internal anyway.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks! I'm familiar with markdown syntax including links, but the markdown 
link syntax is conflicting with the wikitext syntax as discussed earlier. Not 
using markdown for now with TW as most of my links are internal anyway.

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[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Mohammad: these look amazing! We need to have a proper gallery of themes 
in the new tiddlywiki.com - it will really help to get people excited.

And talky talky looks amazing, but already a bit more technical :)

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 5:41:22 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure
>>
>>
>>>- It's the fist time I see the introduction walkthrough 
>>>, this is going to 
>>>become my go-to when telling people about TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>> Have you seen the https://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/  presentation by 
>> Jeremy!
>> I think this is a great edition of Tiddlywiki to be used for brief 
>> introduction!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>
>
> Don't forget to click the full screen button on the top right! 
>

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[tw5] Create TiddlyWiki sitemap

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi everyone,

I added the following command to my build.sh file in order to generate a 
sitemap of my TiddlyWiki static website:

--rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain


So my full render command looks like this now:

tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
$:/ness_labs/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain 
--rendertiddler $:/ness_labs/templates/static.template.css 
static/static.css text/plain --rendertiddler sitemap sitemap.xml text/plain


I do get a sitemap.xml file, but it's empty. Is there anything else I 
should do beside using this command?

(all of this will be going into a SEO guide for TW btw!)

Thank you!
Anne-Laure.


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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Mohammad,

Thank you! I just tried it and get the attached error, am I doing something 
wrong?

Am I correct to do this in the root folder of the wiki?

Thank you!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 3:53:35 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Anne-Laure,
>  
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 7:23:38 AM UTC+4:30, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone — here 
>> <https://nesslabs.com/tiddlywiki-static-website-generator> is a short 
>> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
>> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>>
>
> I just read the whole tutorial! one comment:
>
> In *2. Export your TiddlyWiki as a static website*
>
> You have asked to copy paste some commands in terminal and run one by one 
> or create a setup.sh to make the static website BUT
>
> When you create your wiki using 
>
> tiddlywiki myfirstwiki --init server
>
>
> Tiddlywiki creates a tiddlywiki.info in *myfirstwik *folder, you can use 
> it like below
>
> tiddlywiki myfirstwiki --build static
>
>
> and it does all the magic and no need for those headaches! specially if 
> this targets beginners.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Jeremy: this was such an interesting read, thank you!

Just want to jot down some thoughts:

   - It's the fist time I see the introduction walkthrough 
   , this is going to become 
   my go-to when telling people about TiddlyWiki!
   - Tangential - I was about to share the link on Twitter, but checked 
   here first and it looks like there's no link preview. It would be good in a 
   future version to have default link preview parameters so links always look 
   good on social media. Even better if the user can tweak them easily.
   - If there are so many limitations in working with the full version of 
   TiddlyWiki, I wonder if Edgaras couldn't design a version that's 
*purposefully 
   restrictive*. For instance, we're not able to edit on click because 
   we're not sure what complex transclusion may be computed in the 
   background—maybe that super simple Starter Edition of TiddlyWiki would not 
   support such complex transclusions and focus on pure note-taking? May not 
   be possible at all but just throwing it out there.
   - Also, side note that I personally never use Storyview, and what Dave 
   Gifford is creating to look at two tiddlers side-by-side feels much more 
   natural to me, but again may be too much of a departure from the way 
   TiddlyWiki works.

@Edgaras: I don't think the WYSIWYG part is that important to be honest. 
The kind of users that will be early adopters of this Starter Edition will 
probably understand markdown fairly quickly, especially if the onboarding 
is done correctly. (tens of thousands of non-technical people did with Roam)

I think what would be interesting from a design standpoint is figure out 
everything that should be removed for a Starter Edition, so people can get 
the best first impression, and then build upon this as they grow along 
their TiddlyWiki. Very excited to follow the progress on this!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:06:09 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Edgaras,
>
> Welcome to the club!
>
> It's nice to see a designer's point of view! I think your designs should 
> be like brainstorming about UI and UX improvements. It's cool to explore 
> new possibilities without thinking about the consequences ;)
>
> We developers and power-users should *not* think about, how of if we can 
> implement "those visions". We shouldn't think about "design" backwards 
> compatibility. The internals need to be compatible. They are ultra flexible 
> already ... We will survive it!
>
> I think it's about the "First Impression" for new users. Newbies want to 
> type formatted text. ... Have a TOC ... Create simple ToDo's / shopping / 
>  lists. ... They seem to like "backlinking" more visible ;) ...
>
> I think, if those elements can be made simple and they have the 
> possibility to "store", "reload" and make their stuff visible for others, 
> they are "caught" already. 
>
> If the second step like dynamic lists need an "extended editor" and 
> transclusions, macros, widgets need an "advanced" editor this doesn't 
> matter anymore. We got them already. 
>
> -
>
> Themes can look like: 
>
>  - Hugo static site theme Ghostwriter 
>  or
>  - Wordpress Moments 
> ormore TW 
> like 
>  - Whitespace   which IMO has 
> a very nice sidebar concept. 
>
> IMO we can do everything. ... Installing those 3 themes in ONE wiki and 
> make them switchable will be a challenge. ... But doable, if it needs to be 
> ... 
>
> There is one more thing, I wanted to show, but it doesn't work atm ;) ... 
> Link will follow.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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Re: [tw5] URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much Saq and Jeremy!

Here <https://www.mentalnodes.com/folders-kill-creativity> is the final 
result – many thanks for your help!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:39:15 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Sorry to be late to this thread.
>
> The static site generation templates included in the core don’t need to 
> know the URL at which the site will be published because it only generates 
> relative URLs. As things stand, users have to edit the definition 
> of tv-wikilink-template in those templates to include their full URL.
>
> An alternative that might work better in some situations would be pass the 
> URL as a variable to the --rendertiddler or --render commands, and update 
> the definition of tv-wikilink-template to include that variable.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2020, at 10:58, Saq Imtiaz > 
> wrote:
>
> @Anne-Laure you are welcome and this is helpful to the community too. We 
> are very good at thinking in terms of manipulating content and presentation 
> inside a running TW, but need some practice (and documentation) on 
> extrapolating that to static html rendered from tiddlers.
>
> If you are keeping the JS macros in place, the last short version I posted 
> is worth a try at some point.
>
> You are getting a uppercase first letter because the javascript macros 
> turns the title into lowercase for the url and filenames.
>
> To do the same with tv-filter-export-link:
> [split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]lowercase[]]
>
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:50:03 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much, Saq!
>>
>> I may look into this later, but when I implemented your approach, it 
>> generated exactly what I wanted, for instance (that's from the static 
>> website output):
>>
>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativitytext=Folders
>>  
>> kill creativity:%20
>> https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativityvia=anthilemoonhashtags=mentalnodes;
>>  
>> target="_blank" title="Tweet">> src="social-icons/Twitter.png">
>>
>>
>> (not sure why the URL says "Folders" and not "folders" but that's minor)
>>
>> Very grateful!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:37:13 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> @Anne-Laure we should have asked you for those files from the beginning! 
>>> That would have made helping you out a lot easier all along :)
>>>
>>> Those instructions for regex use one of the other three variables that I 
>>> mentioned, tv-get-export-link instead of tv-filter-export-link, which 
>>> requires javascript.
>>>
>>> You can mix and match both approaches but then it can be a little tricky 
>>> to ensure that both always return the exact same filenames and 
>>> corresponding links. This may not be an issue, but there is a chance it 
>>> might cause problems at some point. Basically its a case of making sure the 
>>> filter in tv-filter-export-link does the exact same thing as the javascript.
>>>
>>> With the way I outlined, you use the same filters for both and there is 
>>> no javascript involved, so there are no chances of such issues. Or 
>>> alternatively one could write another javascript macro that defines the url 
>>> variable, using the same javascript logic.
>>> For a non-developer I think the non-javascript based approach will be 
>>> easiest in the long run.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:11:56 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Saq,
>>>>
>>>> First, thanks so much for your help!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I have modified *static.tiddler.html* - it looks like this 
>>>> <https://github.com/anthilemoon/tw-experiments/blob/master/%24__ness_labs_template_static-view-template.tid>
>>>>  
>>>> in my setup — and it looks like your approach is working! Thank you! Will 
>>>> keep on tweaking, but if you're curious you can see here 
>>>> <https://github.com/anthilemoon/tw-experiments> the files where I did 
>>>> the regex edits. (following these instructions 
>>>> <https://www.didaxy.com/exporting-static-sites-from-tiddlywiki-part-5>)
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:37:44 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> @Anne-Laure : I su

[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Edgaras - this is amazing! I wish I was a developer or better versed in the 
inner workings of TW so I could help you, but I'll definitely give feedback 
on the design as you go. This is an exciting project.

I think ideally the end result should be easily installed in one click (the 
same way you download an empty TW), so I guess in TW's terminology that 
would make it an edition ?

@David Gifford: we discussed this, you're a TW developer! :)

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:46:30 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Edgaras. I created an account to view your design brief.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:09:16 PM UTC+4:30, Edgaras wrote:
>>
>> *Mohammad*, thank you!
>>
>> Unfortunately, yes sign up is required, but it's free.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much, Saq!

I may look into this later, but when I implemented your approach, it 
generated exactly what I wanted, for instance (that's from the static 
website output):

https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativitytext=Folders
 
kill 
creativity:%20https://www.mentalnodes.com/Folders-kill-creativityvia=anthilemoonhashtags=mentalnodes;
 
target="_blank" title="Tweet">


(not sure why the URL says "Folders" and not "folders" but that's minor)

Very grateful!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:37:13 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Anne-Laure we should have asked you for those files from the beginning! 
> That would have made helping you out a lot easier all along :)
>
> Those instructions for regex use one of the other three variables that I 
> mentioned, tv-get-export-link instead of tv-filter-export-link, which 
> requires javascript.
>
> You can mix and match both approaches but then it can be a little tricky 
> to ensure that both always return the exact same filenames and 
> corresponding links. This may not be an issue, but there is a chance it 
> might cause problems at some point. Basically its a case of making sure the 
> filter in tv-filter-export-link does the exact same thing as the javascript.
>
> With the way I outlined, you use the same filters for both and there is no 
> javascript involved, so there are no chances of such issues. Or 
> alternatively one could write another javascript macro that defines the url 
> variable, using the same javascript logic.
> For a non-developer I think the non-javascript based approach will be 
> easiest in the long run.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:11:56 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Saq,
>>
>> First, thanks so much for your help!
>>
>> Yes, I have modified *static.tiddler.html* - it looks like this 
>> <https://github.com/anthilemoon/tw-experiments/blob/master/%24__ness_labs_template_static-view-template.tid>
>>  
>> in my setup — and it looks like your approach is working! Thank you! Will 
>> keep on tweaking, but if you're curious you can see here 
>> <https://github.com/anthilemoon/tw-experiments> the files where I did 
>> the regex edits. (following these instructions 
>> <https://www.didaxy.com/exporting-static-sites-from-tiddlywiki-part-5>)
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:37:44 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> @Anne-Laure : I suspect we have been overcomplicating a bit because most 
>>> of us are not familiar with the static site generation process. If you can 
>>> walk us through a few details of your setup I think we are close a 
>>> solution. Short instructions at the end, but please read through everything.
>>>
>>> Have you modified this template
>>>  static.tiddler.html
>>>
>>> from the folder 
>>> /core/templates?
>>>
>>> If so, please post your customized template. If not, where exactly are 
>>> you using regexp to replace the spaces in file names, and the links to 
>>> them, with hyphens?
>>>
>>> TiddlyWiki defines three variables that can be used to tweak the 
>>> structure of url's in the static files generated:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-wikilink-template%20Variable:%5B%5Btv-wikilink-template%20Variable%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btv-filter-export-link%20Variable%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btv-get-export-link%20Variable%5D%5D
>>>
>>> You said you have replaced the spaces in tiddler names with hyphens, the 
>>> correct way to do this in links would be via the variable
>>> tv-filter-export-link
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-filter-export-link%20Variable used at the 
>>> top of static.tiddler.html as follows:
>>>
>>> \define tv-filter-export-link() [split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]]
>>>
>>> Assuming it is setup this way, the following filter will get you the 
>>> file name portion of the url:
>>> [subfilter]
>>>
>>> Since TW doesn't know where your files will be served we need to add in 
>>> the domain name:
>>> [subfilteraddprefix[https://
>>> www.mentalnodes.com/]]
>>>
>>> a better way to do this would be to create a tiddler called something 
>>> like $:/config/static/domain and give it the text value 
>>> https://mentalnodes.com/ so that we can re-use and easily change the 
>>> domain name.
>>> Then the filter for the URL becomes:
>>> [subfilteraddprefix{$:/config/
>>> static/d

[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi Saq,

First, thanks so much for your help!

Yes, I have modified *static.tiddler.html* - it looks like this 

 
in my setup — and it looks like your approach is working! Thank you! Will 
keep on tweaking, but if you're curious you can see here 
 the files where I did the 
regex edits. (following these instructions 
)

Many thanks!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:37:44 AM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Anne-Laure : I suspect we have been overcomplicating a bit because most 
> of us are not familiar with the static site generation process. If you can 
> walk us through a few details of your setup I think we are close a 
> solution. Short instructions at the end, but please read through everything.
>
> Have you modified this template
>  static.tiddler.html
>
> from the folder 
> /core/templates?
>
> If so, please post your customized template. If not, where exactly are you 
> using regexp to replace the spaces in file names, and the links to them, 
> with hyphens?
>
> TiddlyWiki defines three variables that can be used to tweak the structure 
> of url's in the static files generated:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-wikilink-template%20Variable:%5B%5Btv-wikilink-template%20Variable%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btv-filter-export-link%20Variable%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btv-get-export-link%20Variable%5D%5D
>
> You said you have replaced the spaces in tiddler names with hyphens, the 
> correct way to do this in links would be via the variable
> tv-filter-export-link
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-filter-export-link%20Variable used at the top 
> of static.tiddler.html as follows:
>
> \define tv-filter-export-link() [split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]]
>
> Assuming it is setup this way, the following filter will get you the file 
> name portion of the url:
> [subfilter]
>
> Since TW doesn't know where your files will be served we need to add in 
> the domain name:
> [subfilteraddprefix[https://
> www.mentalnodes.com/]]
>
> a better way to do this would be to create a tiddler called something like 
> $:/config/static/domain and give it the text value 
> https://mentalnodes.com/ so that we can re-use and easily change the 
> domain name.
> Then the filter for the URL becomes:
> [subfilteraddprefix{$:/config/
> static/domain}]
>
>
> *Putting it all together: (and assuming you aren't doing anything 
> elsewhere to tweak the file names)*
> At the top of your template:
>
> \define tv-filter-export-link() [split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]]
>
> \define tweet-this(url,title,description)
> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=$url$=$title$%20$description$=anthilemoon
> " target="_blank" title="Tweet"> "social-icons/Twitter.png" />
> \end
>
>
> Use as: 
>
> <$macrocall $name="tweet-this" url={{{ [subfilter
> addprefix{$:/config/static/domain}] }}} 
> title={{!!title}} description={{!!description}} />
>
> To get your file names to match, you can use this filter with the 
> RenderCommand when generating static files:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderCommand
>
> "[split[ ]join[-]encodeuricomponent[]addsuffix[.html]addprefix[static/]]"
>
> For easier access to the url in the template, you can wrap a set widget 
> around the entirety of the html portion of your template:
> \define macros go here
>
> <$set name="url" filter=
> """[subfilteraddprefix{$:/config/static/domain}]"""
> >
> 
>
>
> <> will give you the url, relies on tv-filter-export-link being 
> defined in the template
>
>
> 
>
>
> Please let us know if that works. If so, it can likely be further 
> simplified for re-use.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: Retrieving external url title

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oh, gotcha! I don't know about a solution that works on mobile. I'll be 
following this thread out of curiosity.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:25:20 AM UTC+1, Tony K wrote:
>
> Thanks Anne for the reply
>
> Problem with booklets is they operate in the browser. What I mean is how 
> to use them if you are on mobile? 
>
> That's why I was looking at something that is TW5 side so a simple copy 
> paste would be enough 
>
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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Progress! Eric's way does display the URL in TiddlyWiki (well, I'm using 
the Node.js version, so it just says http://127.0.0.1:8080/ everywhere, but 
that's progress anyway)

As Mark predicted, this doesn't do anything when generating static pages.

@Mat: thank you, not sure how I can use this I don't have the URI in the 
first place?

I'm using this to generate clean links for my static website, and wondering 
if there's anything I could copy to my $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate to also get 
these same URLs.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:00:22 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Of possible relevance: URI operators 
> .
>  
> Do TW search for more.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Could you share your tagging habits?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oh, that's very interesting! I was looking for a way to list all "unlinked" 
references (so freelinks in this terminology), so definitely worth having a 
look. I wouldn't want these to appear in-text though as it would get messy, 
so I'll probably need to play with it. Thank you!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 2:53:25 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> A Quick overview of freelinks
>
> Normally if you link to a tiddler you have to use [[some text]] in you 
> wiki text or another means such as a tag, but once you create the "some 
> text" tiddler, with freelink on, if you are displaying a tiddler containing 
> "bla bla some text bla bla" then the 'some text' will automatically become 
> an active link to the "some text" tiddler. Thus if you create a tiddler 
> #book or even book where ever the text is used, it appears as a link.
>
>
>- Of course to open the tiddlers in the first place you need search 
>etc to get them.
>- It allows you to see incidental references
>- I often create tiddlers such as [[use fields rather than tags as 
>context indicators]] and plain english words like "hierarchy" so freelinks 
>will highlight their reuse in other free text.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:26:48 AM UTC+10, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hashtag based is a good name! To be honest I still haven't tried 
>> freelinks because I don't understand what it does. Will give it a try this 
>> weekend on a fresh copy of TW. I'll see if it fits in my workflow.
>>
>> What I like about my current approach is that I can create new tags on 
>> the go, even if they're only used once. It's very flexible. See an example 
>> here <https://consciousness.netlify.app/consciousness>. (the "see also" 
>> section)
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 2:19:28 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Anne-laure/Tony
>>>
>>> Anne-laure Thats a good approach, and can be done other ways as well.
>>>
>>> Your method would be what I would call a "hashtag based title link" 
>>> reference. You could also just use [[book]] place these inside a comment 
>>> , or just raw #book and use search or contains in a filter to 
>>> find them (including hidden in comments), if you wanted as well, or you 
>>> could have a tiddler-type field with the value "book". Except when hidden 
>>> in comments, the new freelinks plugin will highlight book and #book if 
>>> there is a tiddler called book.
>>>
>>> The possibilities are infinite.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:54:10 AM UTC+10, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't use tags, I use "tagging tiddlers" and TiddlyBlink.
>>>>
>>>> For instance I write [[#book]] at the end of a tiddler with book notes. 
>>>> Then I can go on the #book page and thanks to bi-directional links I see 
>>>> all the tiddlers (book notes) referencing that one — i.e. all the tiddlers 
>>>> where I wrote [[#book]]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:05:43 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>> That is basically how I do it. Tags as categories and everything 
>>>>> linked trough that. Here is a little "Notebook" I built:
>>>>> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/SimpleNotebook.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:29:36 PM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking about tags and I don't want to use them as keywords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am more inclined to having some general structure where I can fit 
>>>>>> all my toddlers in without much thinking. In other terms using tags as 
>>>>>> categories??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love to hear your thoughts and experience about this 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Retrieving external url title

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Yes, that's exactly how this bookmarklet 

 
Chris create works, specifically the *document.title* part :)

Add it to your toolbar to see it in action. It may even be the whole script 
you need!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:09:30 AM UTC+1, Tony K wrote:
>
>
> Hello Tony and thanks a lot for your help 
>
>
> In this case where does the returned text "Google" supposed to come from?
>
> Google is the title of the web page
>
> Would you like the value in the browser tabs title or something?
>
> Yes
>
> Why do you want it?, because perhaps we can get it another way
>
> To create bookmarks. Paste the url and let the script handle the title 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Could you share your tagging habits?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hashtag based is a good name! To be honest I still haven't tried freelinks 
because I don't understand what it does. Will give it a try this weekend on 
a fresh copy of TW. I'll see if it fits in my workflow.

What I like about my current approach is that I can create new tags on the 
go, even if they're only used once. It's very flexible. See an example here 
<https://consciousness.netlify.app/consciousness>. (the "see also" section)

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 2:19:28 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Anne-laure/Tony
>
> Anne-laure Thats a good approach, and can be done other ways as well.
>
> Your method would be what I would call a "hashtag based title link" 
> reference. You could also just use [[book]] place these inside a comment 
> , or just raw #book and use search or contains in a filter to 
> find them (including hidden in comments), if you wanted as well, or you 
> could have a tiddler-type field with the value "book". Except when hidden 
> in comments, the new freelinks plugin will highlight book and #book if 
> there is a tiddler called book.
>
> The possibilities are infinite.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:54:10 AM UTC+10, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> I don't use tags, I use "tagging tiddlers" and TiddlyBlink.
>>
>> For instance I write [[#book]] at the end of a tiddler with book notes. 
>> Then I can go on the #book page and thanks to bi-directional links I see 
>> all the tiddlers (book notes) referencing that one — i.e. all the tiddlers 
>> where I wrote [[#book]]
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:05:43 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>> That is basically how I do it. Tags as categories and everything linked 
>>> trough that. Here is a little "Notebook" I built:
>>> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/SimpleNotebook.html
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:29:36 PM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about tags and I don't want to use them as keywords.
>>>>
>>>>  I am more inclined to having some general structure where I can fit 
>>>> all my toddlers in without much thinking. In other terms using tags as 
>>>> categories??
>>>>
>>>> Would love to hear your thoughts and experience about this 
>>>>
>>>> All the best 
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Mark - I imported your file in a safe copy of my TW, then added the 
following to my static view template file:

*{{!!url}}*

*<$view field="url"/>*


... Because I wasn't sure what to use. But, in any case, none of them 
worked, there was no output. So I think I didn't understand the 
instructions properly.

@Eric: Thank you! This does look somewhat related to what I want to do. 
I'll have a look.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 2:03:19 AM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, Mark! Will give it a try and report back :)
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:59:47 AM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I was following this thread, hoping that someone would know of an 
>> existing, core-based solution. The two related messages unfortunately only 
>> send the url to the clipboard.
>>
>> If you want to try something, the attached is a json for a tiddler that 
>> uses a simple javascript macro to report the url. It worked for me. Once.
>>
>> Absolutely make a *backup* of any work you are doing. Then drag and drop 
>> into your TW. Save. Reload. Then <> should reveal the url. Maybe ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 5:50:28 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> @Saq & Tony: thank you! No idea what my URL structure is, I think it's 
>>> just the title and then I used regex to replace the spaces with hyphens, so 
>>> I have no idea where to start here.
>>> @Scott: this is great! I have literally no idea how I could implement 
>>> this on mine (also I don't want the dynamic thing, just regular links), but 
>>> yes, very close to what I want to do. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Doesn't happen often, but I think this one is past my competence level, 
>>> I don't even know what question to ask haha. I'll just forget about the 
>>> social media links for now, not essential anyway. Thanks so much everyone, 
>>> really appreciate you jumping in :)
>>>
>>> p.s. If anyone more technical than I am wants to implement this at some 
>>> point, this <https://simplesharingbuttons.com/> is what the html/css 
>>> code looks like (demo attached).
>>> p.p.s. For SEO, social media reasons, etc. it would be great to have a 
>>> user-friendly way to call a link to the current page. Maybe {{!!current}}? 
>>> I'm actually taking notes so I can publish a guide to make your TiddlyWiki 
>>> more SEO friendly and this would be very helpful.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:49:32 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anne-Laure, did you see this? 
>>>> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/socialmacros/index.html#Social%20Networking%20comes%20to%20TW5
>>>>
>>>> I haven't used it but I found it over on Dave's Toolmap site
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to add social sharing links on each page of to my 
>>>>> TW-generated website, here is an example:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=*{URL}*=
>>>>> *{TITLE}*%20*{DESCRIPTION}*=anthilemoon" target="_blank" 
>>>>> title="Tweet">
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where {URL} the url of the current tiddler, {TITLE} is the title of 
>>>>> the current tiddler, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is: what am I supposed to use to generate these? (in the 
>>>>> static view template tiddler)
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, for *{TITLE}* I tried *<$view field="title"/>* and 
>>>>> *{!!title}* and none of them worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't find anything in this list 
>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlerFields.html>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. attached a fun screenshot for your pleasure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks so much, Mark! Will give it a try and report back :)

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:59:47 AM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I was following this thread, hoping that someone would know of an 
> existing, core-based solution. The two related messages unfortunately only 
> send the url to the clipboard.
>
> If you want to try something, the attached is a json for a tiddler that 
> uses a simple javascript macro to report the url. It worked for me. Once.
>
> Absolutely make a *backup* of any work you are doing. Then drag and drop 
> into your TW. Save. Reload. Then <> should reveal the url. Maybe ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 5:50:28 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> @Saq & Tony: thank you! No idea what my URL structure is, I think it's 
>> just the title and then I used regex to replace the spaces with hyphens, so 
>> I have no idea where to start here.
>> @Scott: this is great! I have literally no idea how I could implement 
>> this on mine (also I don't want the dynamic thing, just regular links), but 
>> yes, very close to what I want to do. Thanks!
>>
>> Doesn't happen often, but I think this one is past my competence level, I 
>> don't even know what question to ask haha. I'll just forget about the 
>> social media links for now, not essential anyway. Thanks so much everyone, 
>> really appreciate you jumping in :)
>>
>> p.s. If anyone more technical than I am wants to implement this at some 
>> point, this <https://simplesharingbuttons.com/> is what the html/css 
>> code looks like (demo attached).
>> p.p.s. For SEO, social media reasons, etc. it would be great to have a 
>> user-friendly way to call a link to the current page. Maybe {{!!current}}? 
>> I'm actually taking notes so I can publish a guide to make your TiddlyWiki 
>> more SEO friendly and this would be very helpful.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:49:32 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>
>>> Anne-Laure, did you see this? 
>>> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/socialmacros/index.html#Social%20Networking%20comes%20to%20TW5
>>>
>>> I haven't used it but I found it over on Dave's Toolmap site
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to add social sharing links on each page of to my 
>>>> TW-generated website, here is an example:
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=*{URL}*=*{TITLE}*
>>>> %20*{DESCRIPTION}*=anthilemoon" target="_blank" title="Tweet">>>> alt="Tweet" src="social-icons/Twitter.png" />
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where {URL} the url of the current tiddler, {TITLE} is the title of the 
>>>> current tiddler, etc.
>>>>
>>>> My question is: what am I supposed to use to generate these? (in the 
>>>> static view template tiddler)
>>>>
>>>> For example, for *{TITLE}* I tried *<$view field="title"/>* and 
>>>> *{!!title}* and none of them worked.
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't find anything in this list 
>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlerFields.html>.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> p.s. attached a fun screenshot for your pleasure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Could you share your tagging habits?

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

I don't use tags, I use "tagging tiddlers" and TiddlyBlink.

For instance I write [[#book]] at the end of a tiddler with book notes. 
Then I can go on the #book page and thanks to bi-directional links I see 
all the tiddlers (book notes) referencing that one — i.e. all the tiddlers 
where I wrote [[#book]]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:05:43 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
> That is basically how I do it. Tags as categories and everything linked 
> trough that. Here is a little "Notebook" I built:
> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/SimpleNotebook.html
>
> Scott
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:29:36 PM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about tags and I don't want to use them as keywords.
>>
>>  I am more inclined to having some general structure where I can fit all 
>> my toddlers in without much thinking. In other terms using tags as 
>> categories??
>>
>> Would love to hear your thoughts and experience about this 
>>
>> All the best 
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

@Saq & Tony: thank you! No idea what my URL structure is, I think it's just 
the title and then I used regex to replace the spaces with hyphens, so I 
have no idea where to start here.
@Scott: this is great! I have literally no idea how I could implement this 
on mine (also I don't want the dynamic thing, just regular links), but yes, 
very close to what I want to do. Thanks!

Doesn't happen often, but I think this one is past my competence level, I 
don't even know what question to ask haha. I'll just forget about the 
social media links for now, not essential anyway. Thanks so much everyone, 
really appreciate you jumping in :)

p.s. If anyone more technical than I am wants to implement this at some 
point, this <https://simplesharingbuttons.com/> is what the html/css code 
looks like (demo attached).
p.p.s. For SEO, social media reasons, etc. it would be great to have a 
user-friendly way to call a link to the current page. Maybe {{!!current}}? 
I'm actually taking notes so I can publish a guide to make your TiddlyWiki 
more SEO friendly and this would be very helpful.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:49:32 AM UTC+1, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> Anne-Laure, did you see this? 
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/socialmacros/index.html#Social%20Networking%20comes%20to%20TW5
>
> I haven't used it but I found it over on Dave's Toolmap site
>
> Scott
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm trying to add social sharing links on each page of to my TW-generated 
>> website, here is an example:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=*{URL}*=*{TITLE}*
>> %20*{DESCRIPTION}*=anthilemoon" target="_blank" title="Tweet">> alt="Tweet" src="social-icons/Twitter.png" />
>>
>>
>> Where {URL} the url of the current tiddler, {TITLE} is the title of the 
>> current tiddler, etc.
>>
>> My question is: what am I supposed to use to generate these? (in the 
>> static view template tiddler)
>>
>> For example, for *{TITLE}* I tried *<$view field="title"/>* and 
>> *{!!title}* and none of them worked.
>>
>> Couldn't find anything in this list 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlerFields.html>.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> p.s. attached a fun screenshot for your pleasure.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks Saq! I'm struggling with the URL part specifically, how do I grab 
that? Thanks so much.

---

For context, my live notes while looking for a solution :)

   - Some 
   <https://www.google.com/search?q=tiddlywiki+display+url+of+current+tiddler> 
of 
   the results of a google search, nothing relevant
   - Maybe I need a list-links macro 
   <https://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links%20Macro> with a filter operator 
   <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators> targeting the current 
   tiddler. But only the link-related operators I found on the list were 
   *backlinks*, which finds the titles that link to each input title, and 
   *links*, which finds the titles linked to by each input title.
   - Found TiddlerLinks <https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerLinks>, but doesn't 
   look like it's related to what I want to achieve
   - I typed {{!!title}} in google and found this Current Tiddler 
   <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Current%2520Tiddler.html> page, which was 
   super promising but looks like the currentTiddler Variable only contains 
   the title of the current tiddler
   - This plugin 
   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/m-IYUzd9Bio> seems 
   to create links to the current tiddler, so it means it's possible!

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:51:31 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> You want something like this:
>
> \define tweet-this(url,title,description)
> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=$url$=$title$%20$description$=anthilemoon;
>  
> target="_blank" title="Tweet"> src="social-icons/Twitter.png" />
> \end
>
> <$macrocall $name="tweet-this" url=<> title={{!!title}} 
> description={{!!description}} />
>
> put the define at the top of your template and call the macro with the 
> macro call widget where you need it. That assumes you have a variable set 
> that contains the value of the url under the name url
>
> Further reading: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Concatenating%20text%20and%20variables%20using%20macro%20substitution
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:22:17 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm trying to add social sharing links on each page of to my TW-generated 
>> website, here is an example:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=*{URL}*=*{TITLE}*
>> %20*{DESCRIPTION}*=anthilemoon" target="_blank" title="Tweet">> alt="Tweet" src="social-icons/Twitter.png" />
>>
>>
>> Where {URL} the url of the current tiddler, {TITLE} is the title of the 
>> current tiddler, etc.
>>
>> My question is: what am I supposed to use to generate these? (in the 
>> static view template tiddler)
>>
>> For example, for *{TITLE}* I tried *<$view field="title"/>* and 
>> *{!!title}* and none of them worked.
>>
>> Couldn't find anything in this list 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlerFields.html>.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> p.s. attached a fun screenshot for your pleasure.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] URL of the current tiddler

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to add social sharing links on each page of to my TW-generated 
website, here is an example:

https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?source=*{URL}*=*{TITLE}*%20
*{DESCRIPTION}*=anthilemoon" target="_blank" title="Tweet">


Where {URL} the url of the current tiddler, {TITLE} is the title of the 
current tiddler, etc.

My question is: what am I supposed to use to generate these? (in the static 
view template tiddler)

For example, for *{TITLE}* I tried *<$view field="title"/>* and *{!!title}* 
and none of them worked.

Couldn't find anything in this list 
.

Thank you!

p.s. attached a fun screenshot for your pleasure.


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[tw5] Re: Page for recent tiddlers displays captions instead of titles

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Oh - never mind. Sorry about the double post. Seems like I need to use 
"description" and not "caption" — thanks again for your help!

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:53:53 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Sorry to re-open this, but now all of my backlinks also use the caption, 
> see sidebar here <https://www.mentalnodes.com/>. What a weird behaviour! 
> I want the caption to be the caption and the title to be the title.
>
> The only reason I added a caption was so I could add a meta description 
> for search engines with {{!caption} — is there another way I should go 
> about this?
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:14:26 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Wow, both - thank you so much!
>>
>> Eric, the detailed explanation was incredibly helpful. (and it did work)
>>
>> Very grateful, thank you!
>>
>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:52:14 PM UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 12:22:58 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to create a page displaying the most recently edited tiddlers.
>>>> This is my code:
>>>>
>>>> *<>>> filter:"[!is[system]!sort[edited]]-[tag[hide]]-[tag[meta]]">>*
>>>>
>>>> The weird thing that happens is that it gives me the list of most 
>>>> recently edited tiddlers, but displays their caption field instead of 
>>>> their 
>>>> title (see screenshot attached).
>>>>
>>>
>>> The list-links macro is defined here: *$:/core/macros/list*
>>> \define list-links(filter,type:"ul",subtype:"li",class:"",emptyMessage)
>>> \whitespace trim
>>> <$type$ class="$class$">
>>> <$list filter="$filter$" emptyMessage=<<__emptyMessage__>>>
>>> <$subtype$>
>>> <$link to={{!!title}}>
>>> <$transclude field="caption">
>>> <$view field="title"/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> Note these lines:
>>> <$transclude field="caption">
>>> <$view field="title"/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> What this means:
>>> The $transclude widget will show the caption text of the tiddler.  If 
>>> there is no caption field defined, it falls back to showing the title of 
>>> the tiddler.
>>>
>>> What you can do:
>>> Instead of using the <> macro, you can create your own output 
>>> using the <$list> widget.  Something like this:
>>> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[edited]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]]">
>>><$link />
>>> 
>>>
>>> notes:
>>> * in your posted code, you used "!sort[edited]"... however, unless you 
>>> are creating that field yourself, there is no such field by default.  When 
>>> you edit a tiddler, the TWCore automatically updates a field called 
>>> "modified"
>>> * the list that is generated will include *all* tiddlers in the 
>>> document.  If there are a lot of tiddlers, the list will be very long 
>>> (e.g., try this on tiddlywiki.com, and you will get 1258 items!).  You 
>>> can use the [limit[...]] filter to keep the list from being too long.
>>>
>>> Thus, to only show the 50 most recent changes:
>>> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[modified]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]] 
>>> +[limit[50]]">
>>><$link />
>>> 
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e
>>> Eric Shulman
>>> TiddlyTools.com - "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
>>> InsideTiddlyWiki: http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Page for recent tiddlers displays captions instead of titles

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Sorry to re-open this, but now all of my backlinks also use the caption, 
see sidebar here <https://www.mentalnodes.com/>. What a weird behaviour! I 
want the caption to be the caption and the title to be the title.

The only reason I added a caption was so I could add a meta description for 
search engines with {{!caption} — is there another way I should go about 
this?

Thanks so much!

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:14:26 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Wow, both - thank you so much!
>
> Eric, the detailed explanation was incredibly helpful. (and it did work)
>
> Very grateful, thank you!
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:52:14 PM UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 12:22:58 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to create a page displaying the most recently edited tiddlers.
>>> This is my code:
>>>
>>> *<>> filter:"[!is[system]!sort[edited]]-[tag[hide]]-[tag[meta]]">>*
>>>
>>> The weird thing that happens is that it gives me the list of most 
>>> recently edited tiddlers, but displays their caption field instead of their 
>>> title (see screenshot attached).
>>>
>>
>> The list-links macro is defined here: *$:/core/macros/list*
>> \define list-links(filter,type:"ul",subtype:"li",class:"",emptyMessage)
>> \whitespace trim
>> <$type$ class="$class$">
>> <$list filter="$filter$" emptyMessage=<<__emptyMessage__>>>
>> <$subtype$>
>> <$link to={{!!title}}>
>> <$transclude field="caption">
>> <$view field="title"/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> Note these lines:
>> <$transclude field="caption">
>> <$view field="title"/>
>> 
>>
>> What this means:
>> The $transclude widget will show the caption text of the tiddler.  If 
>> there is no caption field defined, it falls back to showing the title of 
>> the tiddler.
>>
>> What you can do:
>> Instead of using the <> macro, you can create your own output 
>> using the <$list> widget.  Something like this:
>> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[edited]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]]">
>><$link />
>> 
>>
>> notes:
>> * in your posted code, you used "!sort[edited]"... however, unless you 
>> are creating that field yourself, there is no such field by default.  When 
>> you edit a tiddler, the TWCore automatically updates a field called 
>> "modified"
>> * the list that is generated will include *all* tiddlers in the 
>> document.  If there are a lot of tiddlers, the list will be very long 
>> (e.g., try this on tiddlywiki.com, and you will get 1258 items!).  You 
>> can use the [limit[...]] filter to keep the list from being too long.
>>
>> Thus, to only show the 50 most recent changes:
>> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[modified]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]] 
>> +[limit[50]]">
>><$link />
>> 
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools.com - "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
>> InsideTiddlyWiki: http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Page for recent tiddlers displays captions instead of titles

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Wow, both - thank you so much!

Eric, the detailed explanation was incredibly helpful. (and it did work)

Very grateful, thank you!

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:52:14 PM UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 12:22:58 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> I want to create a page displaying the most recently edited tiddlers.
>> This is my code:
>>
>> *<> filter:"[!is[system]!sort[edited]]-[tag[hide]]-[tag[meta]]">>*
>>
>> The weird thing that happens is that it gives me the list of most 
>> recently edited tiddlers, but displays their caption field instead of their 
>> title (see screenshot attached).
>>
>
> The list-links macro is defined here: *$:/core/macros/list*
> \define list-links(filter,type:"ul",subtype:"li",class:"",emptyMessage)
> \whitespace trim
> <$type$ class="$class$">
> <$list filter="$filter$" emptyMessage=<<__emptyMessage__>>>
> <$subtype$>
> <$link to={{!!title}}>
> <$transclude field="caption">
> <$view field="title"/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Note these lines:
> <$transclude field="caption">
> <$view field="title"/>
> 
>
> What this means:
> The $transclude widget will show the caption text of the tiddler.  If 
> there is no caption field defined, it falls back to showing the title of 
> the tiddler.
>
> What you can do:
> Instead of using the <> macro, you can create your own output 
> using the <$list> widget.  Something like this:
> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[edited]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]]">
><$link />
> 
>
> notes:
> * in your posted code, you used "!sort[edited]"... however, unless you are 
> creating that field yourself, there is no such field by default.  When you 
> edit a tiddler, the TWCore automatically updates a field called "modified"
> * the list that is generated will include *all* tiddlers in the document.  
> If there are a lot of tiddlers, the list will be very long (e.g., try this 
> on tiddlywiki.com, and you will get 1258 items!).  You can use the 
> [limit[...]] filter to keep the list from being too long.
>
> Thus, to only show the 50 most recent changes:
> <$list filter="[!is[system]!sort[modified]] -[tag[hide]] -[tag[meta]] 
> +[limit[50]]">
><$link />
> 
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com - "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki: http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Redesign of TiddlyWiki

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Yay, welcome to the community, Edgaras! Fingers crossed you find a 
developer to partner with. A modern, intuitive UX design that makes it easy 
for new users to onboard would be awesome.

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:43:43 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hello Edgar,
>  Welcome to the community and great to know yoy are willing to create a 
> new theme!
> I may suggest to have a look at
>
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#q=theme
>
> This is one of the best collection of Tiddlywiki resources on the net.
>
> Using good UI (theme) it can plant many roles like blog, notebook, 
> website, database, image gallery, CMS and like that...
>
> I highly support your idea and I think Tiddlywiki is very powerful and 
> more important highly modular.
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+4:30, Edgaras Benediktavicus 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I've just recently discovered TiddlyWiki (crazy it's been around for 15 
>> years already!) and I am very pumped up about it! It's not only a great 
>> note taking tool, but it's also a powerful CMS + Static Site Builder!
>>
>> I think that TW deserves and has a potential of reaching broader 
>> audiences! 
>>
>> However, one of the biggest drawbacks for me is the *design of TW*. And 
>> not only the visual design, but also the whole experience of using it. The 
>> functionality and features seem very powerful (and I am just scratching the 
>> surface), but the first time experience of using the tool is not very 
>> pleasant. I really think we could greatly improve the visuals and usability 
>> of TW, to match the other modern tools, and people expectations.
>>
>> This would address many of the root causes of these problems: Rethinking 
>> tiddlywiki.com 
>> 
>>
>> I am experienced UI designer and I am willing to volunteer on creating a 
>> new minimal and simple, yet still powerful TW theme!
>>
>> I am looking for a developer who knows TW well and who wants to 
>> collaborate on creating this new theme. I code myself a bit, but it would 
>> be way more effective to collaborate with a bit more experienced coder.
>>
>> If there will be more interest, I will share all the design files on 
>> Figma, so anybody can give feedback and we can improve the designs together!
>>
>> Anyhow, I would like to know if anybody can also see the value in what I 
>> am talking about?  
>>
>> Cheers!
>> - Edgaras
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Rethinking tiddlywiki.com

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Thanks everyone! So, in terms of content, just wanted to clarify this was a 
super quick edit of the template Jeremy shared. My very first message in 
this thread has a more detailed list of what I think should be on the home 
page, including link to documentation, link to community, quick getting 
started guide, etc.

@Mike - yes, we could very easily have a section saying that TiddlyWiki is 
cross-platform and pointing to various guides to install on each platform.

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:45:59 PM UTC+1, Jan wrote:
>
> Salut Anne-Laure,
> I made a grid-template for TW: https://szen.io/Grid/ .
> Changing the stylesheet it could be modified it to the syle of your 
> landingpage...prooving that you can build anything in TW.
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
>
> Am 24.04.2020 um 10:35 schrieb Anne-Laure Le Cunff:
>
> Wow, Jeremy — this is amazing! If we do this for both Tiddlywiki.com and 
> the static version people will land on when they arrive via search engines, 
> we'd be in a much, much better situation in terms of converting newcomers. 
>
> I made a few quick tweaks <https://github.com/anthilemoon/tw-landing> to 
> give us an idea of what this could look like — super, super quick, I think 
> we can do much better.
>
> Screenshot attached.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 1:25:13 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote: 
>>
>> Just wants to remind of a lovely traditional introduction to Tiddlywiki 
>> created by Jeremy here:  
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/introduction/ 
>>
>> I also keep a copy of that here in Tiddlyspot: 
>> http://kookma.intro.tiddlyspot.com/
>> powered with keyboard shortcut: ctrl+shift+S  saves on the fly
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Page for recent tiddlers displays captions instead of titles

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Hi everyone,

I want to create a page displaying the most recently edited tiddlers.

This is my code:

*<>*


The weird thing that happens is that it gives me the list of most recently 
edited tiddlers, but displays their caption field instead of their title 
(see screenshot attached).

Looked everywhere and can't figure it out. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you for your help!

p.s. I'm aware there is a "recent" tab which is super helpful, but this is 
for exporting as a static website.

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[tw5] Re: [Presenting] New tool for transcluding tooltips that works in static webpages

[Anne-Laure Le Cunff]

Woohoo, this is amazing! Thanks so much!

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:00:10 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
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> Hi all
>
> Here is what I cooked up yesterday
>
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/transclusioninpopups.html
>
> Dave
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