[tw5] Re: Sudden horizontal scrollbar and blank space in my TW

[strikke...@gmail.com]

When you clicked tab more and then all you got a very long list of tiddlers 
without the horizontal scrollbar you would not be able to see them all.


On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 12:56:55 PM UTC+2 Kiya wrote:

> Hello everyone!!
>
> As the title says, my TW has suddenly seemed to gain a big amount of blank 
> space to the right of the storyriver which has added a horizontal scrollbar 
> to my page. I've not been on my TW much for a few weeks due to illness so 
> I'm not exactly sure when this happened but noticed it yesterday and have 
> been trying to figure it out. I've been comparing it to a backup from a 
> month ago and everything that I think could be the issue is identical, so I 
> am stumped. 
>
> I am not an expert in programming and honestly, don't know what I am doing 
> 99% of the time, wouldn't even say I am an intermediate, I am just great at 
> googling and have ADHD so I have always been good at just figuring things 
> out myself, but this one has truly got me lost. 
>
> I have attached a video showing what I mean by blank space and just the 
> general behaviour of it all, it seems to favour the left.
>
> Any help is much appreciated!!
>
> Kiya
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8ee60353-b937-45fe-bbf3-094d449d00c5n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: CamelCase-Rules

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Maybe look here  CamelCase  and 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20turn%20off%20camel%20case%20linking. 

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:23:11 PM UTC+2 torax...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> Skimped a little bit through the discussions around this topic. Is my 
> impression right, that this feature doesn't work as intended? It's a little 
> bit confusing, because the topic is spread in several threads and I am not 
> so involved in this project, like it seems neccessary.
>
> Thanks.
>
> torax...@googlemail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2022 um 22:12:53 
> UTC+2:
>
>> Hi PMario,
>>
>> until now I didn't used it, but I intend too. At the moment I am 
>> overhouling my TW-template, because the earlier tries where to half hearted.
>>
>> To If you can tell me the _current_ rules for 5.2.2, would be fine 
>> enought.
>>
>> Thanks and cheers.
>>
>> PMario schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2022 um 21:54:04 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> As you wrote CamelCase it's exactly that. ... It depends on when you 
>>> started using them. 
>>>
>>> There have been some discussions lately, if we should switch the flag 
>>> for CamelCase links off by default. .. At the moment the rule is on by 
>>> default. 
>>> -mario
>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/250e193a-5a38-4030-ad92-34c4d859739bn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki file suddently corrupted on save (commas missing in TW inner JSON file)

[strikke...@gmail.com]

http://eucaly-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/ list matchfilter as *Old Plugins (not 
recommanded). *In a tab below is some explanation of changes in support of 
regexp.

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 8:53:17 AM UTC+2 Eric N wrote:

> Hi Jeremy, 
>
> thanks for your answer it was very helpful !!
>
> From your email I understood that my problem could come from a plugin or a 
> javascript module.
>
> I first tried to uninstall all the modules but that didn't help. So I 
> imported all my data (i.e. the tiddlers that I am the creator of) into a 
> fresh empty TW, and I imported the plugins one by one. Doing so, I found 
> the one that broke my TW. Following the instructions on 
> http://tidtoc.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted:
> - install matchfilter from http://eucaly-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#MatchFilter
> - then drag to my TW the toc snippet from 
> http://tidtoc.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted
>
> I've double checked, tried to import other modules, and my TW is working 
> well, as long as I don't import the two elements above.
>
> From my side, the problem is thus solved.
>
> But if this needs to be investigated further, I"ll be happy to help.
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 9:29:59 PM UTC+4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed report. There is some conditional logic in the 
>> JSON tiddler output template to handle including a comma before every 
>> tiddler except the first. It seems that that logic has got corrupted, but 
>> it's not immediately obvious how.
>>
>> Are you using any TW plugins? Does the wiki include any JavaScript 
>> modules (ie tiddlers with type "application/javascript")?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 4:19:43 PM UTC+1 Eric N wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Today I opened my TW file to work on it, and it was blank. Last time I 
>>> used it it was perfect.
>>>
>>> I tried to import that broken file into a fresh empty TW: error message 
>>> saying that the JSON file was broken, "missing , or ]".
>>>
>>> So I checked the file and I had approx 100 instances of "}{" instead of 
>>> "},{". Weird.
>>>
>>> Fixed them all, then I could open the file again and retrieved my work. 
>>> BUT… I added a new simple tiddler, and saved, and the file got broken 
>>> again. Was back with my 100 "}{".
>>>
>>> Tried to import the fixed file into a fresh empty TW, and add a simple 
>>> tiddler then saved: got a broken TW file with 100 "}{".
>>>
>>> Does anyone knows what is happening ?
>>>
>>> Versions:
>>> - MacOS 11.6
>>> - Firefox 93.0
>>> - TW 5.2.0
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/137fe3b4-8754-4b6b-b97d-f5155e87377an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How make TW appear alive?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Siniy-Kit,
Beautiful and functional.
I do not think though, that we would see many more example wikis, if held 
to such a high standard.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 9:38:47 AM UTC+2 Siniy-Kit wrote:

> му   "nicely designed" TW5  https://heeg.ru/ about  using TW5 as on-line 
> store.  http://heeg.ru/heeg.html   - without static cut. 
> Every day people make  sites on my templates :)
>
> вторник, 19 октября 2021 г. в 19:22:29 UTC+3, Mat: 
>
>> Just throwing out a problem I've thought about:
>>
>> It would be good for the TW project to have more demo use cases: Real 
>> wikis that 
>>
>>1. are nicely designed
>>2. take advantage the TW features
>>3. don't appear abandoned
>>
>> It is tricky to come across public wikis that fulfil these, BUT I'd think 
>> that many people here would be willing to share a *copy* of their 
>> personal wiki, anonymized and with sensitive data cleansed out. 
>>
>> But the problem that remains is #3, preventing "appearance decay" because 
>> things age and feel dead. What ways are there to prevent visitors from 
>> getting this impression? 
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/824e776f-5cc2-45e8-8c6e-86cd1ef9d788n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: External links on usb

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Some years ago, I did as Charlie, explains. I am using several different 
laptops, they all run the same version of Linux Mint. Each of the laptops 
has 3 usb portsand find my tiddlywiki usb - and the images and more, 
using the usb label.  finding it at /media/user/label

On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 9:04:37 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Something I've never tried, and just tried for fun.
>
> I set my _canonical_uri for an image tiddler with a relative path, 
> relative to the location of the TiddlyWiki file.
>
> So wherever my TiddlyWiki file is, the _canonical_uri  
> = ./CjVeniot/PatrioticMe.jpg seems to work A-1 for that jpeg file.
>
> Same thing for a PDF file I just tested (tiddler's "Type" = 
> applicaton/pdf).
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 2:10:22 PM UTC-3 maruadv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to have external links that are in a sense 'portable'? 
>>
>> I want to store the TW file and the external reference material on a usb 
>> drive for access.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c68f706b-ee32-4bc8-9cb1-c7995bbfd31an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Stroll - Add Tag when creating new tiddler

[strikke...@gmail.com]

The tiddler you are looking for is titled $:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here 
it has the tags $:/giffmex/stroll and $:/tags/ViewToolbar. use advanced 
search the system tab to search for the tiddler.

When you have found it, you will have to open it for edit.

Insert the following:

```
\define button()
<$button  tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}}  
class=<> actions=<>>
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}

\end

\define actions()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
tags=<> text="""[[$(tid)$]]"""/>
\end

<$wikify name=tid text=<>>
<>

```
Save and you should be good to go

On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 1:37:51 PM UTC+2 blund...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello
>
> Is anyone familiar with stroll here?
>
> When clicking the '+' button to "create a new tiddler that links to this 
> one" it automatically creates a link in the new tiddler which is great but 
> I am using the TableOfContents macro so I also need it to add a tag as 
> well. How do I get it to automatically add a tag with the same name as the 
> link it creates?
>
> Thanks
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2a8afad0-29ba-4044-bc0d-9440913d18f8n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Update MetaTabs

[strikke...@gmail.com]

It is MetaTabs by Jan 
 . @JanJo 
Only He will know, I don't think it is planned.

On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 6:44:31 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Perhaps share a link to them?
>
> On Friday, 15 October 2021 at 11:44:08 UTC+11 komet...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to update MetaTabs? Looks the last update was a few 
>> years ago.
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b2b5475b-ead3-4f2a-9dde-d8ee0bda91f0n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: customize order of tag display

[strikke...@gmail.com]

You need the *[[]]* when using two or more words with spaces. *[[Another 
Tag]]*

If you did not use *[[Another Tag]]*, you would end up with 2 tags. 
*Another* and *Tag*

On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 4:45:43 AM UTC+2 gavin@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Finally got it to work. The tiddler titled $:/config/TagsOrder (and also 
> tagged $:/config/TagsOrder) had to have each tag incased in [[*]] 
> notation and line separated
> [[Tag]]
> [[Another Tag]]
> [[An Yet Another]]
>
> I don't know why it wouldn't work otherwise. I wish there was a way to set 
> tag precedence rather than have to arrange ALL tiddlers. I did appreciate 
> Eric's button code which pulled in all the tiddlers, though! :)
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 1:14:08 PM UTC-7 Gavin Gamboa wrote:
>
>> Also I am not sure if I am understanding Eric's suggestion for the tag 
>> ordering in the new TagsOrder tiddler:
>>
>> Then, you can enter tag names into $:/config/TagsOrder, and the display 
>> of tags in the ViewTemplate will show those tags in the order specified.
>>
>> Do we put that in a new list field within the tiddler itself, or do we 
>> put our own <$list> widget in the tiddler text body, or do we just list the 
>> tags as we would in a list field, but this time in the main text body of 
>> the tiddler i.e. Topic [[New Topic]] Fiction [[Non-Fiction]] …… ?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 12:20:17 PM UTC-7 Gavin Gamboa wrote:
>>
>>> How would we achieve this without altering the core/ui shadow tiddler? 
>>> Is there a way to make upgrades less of a nightmare and overriding the 
>>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags with our own template ? (I haven't done 
>>> any deep customization such as this before so sorry ahead of time if it's 
>>> an obvious answer.)
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Eric,

 Thanks for this insight. controlling the tags list is useful. 


- It does however make me ask if there were a way to use sortby so 
that the "named" tiddlers were at the beginning and the balance sorted 
following.


 The sortby or another method allows a select set of tiddlers to have 
 their prominence enhanced through sorting, but its not very prominent if 
 they are at the end of the list.


- I have used your way to define a newline variable before, thanks. 
But do you know anyway to get it into a global macro?

 Regards
 Tones


 On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 17:56:02 UTC+11 Eric Shulman wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Recently, someone asked me if it is possible to apply a custom order 
> to the tags that are displayed on a tiddler, and I came up with a 
> one-line 
> adjustment to the tags ViewTemplate that achieves this:
>
> edit the $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags shadow tiddler and change this 
> line:
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" 
> template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 
> storyview="pop"/>
> to this:
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]sortby{$:/config/TagsOrder}]" 
> template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
>
> The only change is adding "*sortby{$:/config/TagsOrder}*" to the 
> $list filter.
>
> Then, you can enter tag names into $:/config/TagsOrder, and the 
> display of tags in the ViewTemplate will show those tags in the order 
> specified.
>
> Note that any tags not included in the config tiddler will be listed 
> first, in the default alphanumeric order.  Thus, if the config is empty 
> or 
> non-existent, the current TWCore default behavior is retained.
>
> Also, if there are a lot of tags to be listed, you can auto-generate 
> the initial contents of $:/config/TagsOrder by using the following 
> $button:
>
> <$vars lf="
> ">
> <$set name="taglist" filter="[tags[]trim[]sort[]addsuffixjoin[]]">
> <$button> make initial ~TagsOrder
><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/TagsOrder" text=<> />
> 
> (note that the literal newline following lf=" is important)
>
> This outputs all the current tags, one per line, into the text field 
> of $:/config/TagsOrder.  You can then edit the tiddler to 
> add/delete/re-arrange the tags to suit your needs.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> T
>
>   
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4852d409-e55c-47db-a79d-ac8ac88ec1d5n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Adding Additional Content Types

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Create a new tiddler named $:/language/Docs/Types/video/mp4
Create following fields:

   - description: MP4
   - group: video
   - name: video/mp4
   - group-sort: 3

The group-sort:3 will make it shown in the bottom.


On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 9:45:45 PM UTC+2 Col wrote:

> Does anyone know how to add a new TiddlyWiki content type?
>
> Looking to add a "video/mp4" and "application/pdf" type but don't want to 
> mess up my $:/core.
>
> Many thanks!
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d87c7585-2faa-4129-a7d2-aa32ae7fd10dn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki - Database

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Okay, I tried to make it word with TW5 5.23.
Download the attached file. Drag and drop it into you Tiddlywiki to import 
the necessary tiddlers and see how it goes.

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 7:53:17 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> The simple Contacts DB uses Newtiddler Widget from Stephan Hradek. That 
> got incompatible with later versions of Tiddlywiki.
>  It is more than 7 years old now. 
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 6:48:50 AM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The URL requested:
>>
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Creating a simple Contacts DB
>>
>> regards, ireng
>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 1. Oktober 2021 um 19:41:06 
>> UTC+2:
>>
>>> Do you have a link for the database you found?
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 6:19:27 PM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get 
>>>> along with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
>>>> database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
>>>> Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
>>>> keeper for my car expenses.
>>>>
>>>> Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate very much any valuable input.
>>>>
>>>> best regards, ireng
>>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96ac713c-5d61-4b25-b09d-5ae79a4b9fd9n%40googlegroups.com.


SimpeContactDatabase.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki - Database

[strikke...@gmail.com]

The simple Contacts DB uses Newtiddler Widget from Stephan Hradek. That got 
incompatible with later versions of Tiddlywiki.
 It is more than 7 years old now. 

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 6:48:50 AM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> The URL requested:
>
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
> Creating a simple Contacts DB
>
> regards, ireng
> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 1. Oktober 2021 um 19:41:06 
> UTC+2:
>
>> Do you have a link for the database you found?
>>
>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 6:19:27 PM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get 
>>> along with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
>>> database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
>>> Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
>>> keeper for my car expenses.
>>>
>>> Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?
>>>
>>> I appreciate very much any valuable input.
>>>
>>> best regards, ireng
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2f928b3c-c213-44ba-9f10-3bcae00db506n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki - Database

[strikke...@gmail.com]

The database from http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/  is very old and make 
use of a button, that would not work now.
Have a look at a solution also older and also from Stephan Hradek here 
<https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/GHrWuZAQIN8/m/voZqHiG04DUJ>
I think it would be far easier for you to change for your purpose.

I remember at that time we had some problems copying the code - linebreaks 
and more. I do not want to offend anyone, but to avoid problems for you I 
will upload the tiddler:

Fill out the form and see what happens, when the buttons show. Keep an eye 
on what happens in sidebar in tab recent also. It is very easy when you get 
used to it.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 7:41:06 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Do you have a link for the database you found?
>
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 6:19:27 PM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get along 
>> with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
>> database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
>> Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
>> keeper for my car expenses.
>>
>> Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?
>>
>> I appreciate very much any valuable input.
>>
>> best regards, ireng
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/43367ce6-675c-49ca-8045-9aa9c5904622n%40googlegroups.com.


Contacts.tid
Description: Binary data

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki - Database

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Do you have a link for the database you found?

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 6:19:27 PM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get along 
> with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
> database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
> Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
> keeper for my car expenses.
>
> Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?
>
> I appreciate very much any valuable input.
>
> best regards, ireng
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6709d260-6a3d-484c-a1c7-fc32b4c7c4b6n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to increase the line height of content in editor?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@Stobot,
Unfortunately I do not know, I have tried for years until I ran out of 
ideas to try out. I did see the same as you describe in the inspector.

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 4:45:20 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote:

> Ha! @Birthe / strikke... I was WAY OFF - wrong type of height - whoops! 
> Thanks for saving the day. 
>
> For my own curiosity, do you know of how to get to the height (rather than 
> the actually asked-for line-height)? I can see in the browser-tools thing 
> there's a `height: 100px;` there, but can't figure out how to over-ride it. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 10:27:13 AM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: Editor lineheight.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 3:35:15 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:
>>
>>> I have trouble to see the image, so try it again here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_2021-09-22_14-25-57.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:27:42 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the unclear description, a screen shot is attached. I would 
>>>> like to increare the line height in the grey input area, i.e., the line 
>>>> height of "test1", "list2", or "* list1" etc. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:22:54 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>> I'm not really sure, what you mean. Can you post a screenshot, where 
>>>>> your problem is
>>>>> -m
>>>>>
>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/97f20c9b-ad12-4a9c-95c8-4faf0e04aa59n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to increase the line height of content in editor?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

As you can see in the image, I created a tiddler and tagged it 
$:/tags/Stylesheet. In the tiddler you write:

```
.tc-tiddler-edit-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor { line-height:35px; }

```
Or what height you would like,


On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 5:01:31 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:

>
> @ strikke... this is intersting! Where should I put the code so it 
> becomes the default setting for all tiddles?
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 4:27:13 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: Editor lineheight.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 3:35:15 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:
>>
>>> I have trouble to see the image, so try it again here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_2021-09-22_14-25-57.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:27:42 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the unclear description, a screen shot is attached. I would 
>>>> like to increare the line height in the grey input area, i.e., the line 
>>>> height of "test1", "list2", or "* list1" etc. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:22:54 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>> I'm not really sure, what you mean. Can you post a screenshot, where 
>>>>> your problem is
>>>>> -m
>>>>>
>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2a47885f-ae6e-4aac-b753-df0e5a352663n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to increase the line height of content in editor?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

[image: Editor lineheight.png]

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 3:35:15 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:

> I have trouble to see the image, so try it again here.
>
>
>
> [image: Screenshot_2021-09-22_14-25-57.png]
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:27:42 PM UTC+2 Chunxuan wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the unclear description, a screen shot is attached. I would 
>> like to increare the line height in the grey input area, i.e., the line 
>> height of "test1", "list2", or "* list1" etc. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:22:54 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, 
>>> I'm not really sure, what you mean. Can you post a screenshot, where 
>>> your problem is
>>> -m
>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/aee5a7b5-7910-4b04-9691-5dc0877bn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: 1. Parallel Tab 2. "find/replace"

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I think you are looking for the tiddlers $:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel and 
$:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2. I you have deleted those tiddlers you will 
have to download TiddlyRoam and drag the tiddlers over to your own wiki.
If you do not want to download - I think David Giffords TiddlyBlink has the 
same tiddlers: 
Parallel 

 
and parallel2 

On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 2:31:14 PM UTC+2 jd@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm a complete newbie with TiddlyWiki. I'm currently using TiddlyRoam 
> version *5.1.22. *
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
>
>1. I love the aspect of SideBar tabs but somehow, in the process of 
>cleaning up my plug-ins I seemed to delete the  default "parallel" tab. Is 
>there a way to retrieve it?
>2. Is there a way to have a "find and replace" option/button/etc. 
>within the tiddler itself?
>
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Joe
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e6909c8c-3efc-4597-a906-7db2137295a9n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to get the title of a tiddler in js?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

cj.v,
Thank you. I does work for me too now. It was of course an error on my part 
- not identifying my own typo. It seems no matter how many times we look 
our writing through- eyes popping out, errors are often not found. I call 
it TW eye fatigue.

Thank you,
Birthe

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:58:26 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just to answer your first question, you want to modify the ViewTemplate  
> in your TiddlyWiki that has the plugin.  (screenshot below)
>
> Also, after you've edited the plugin, you have to make sure to save and 
> reload the TiddlyWiki for the change to take effect.
>
> I just tested this again, and it all works A-1.  Double-clicking on any 
> tiddler just opens that one tiddler for edit.  Double-clicking on either a 
> shadow or a system tiddler does nothing.
>
> Just as a sanity check, download an empty TiddlyWiki, install the plugin 
> in that TiddlyWiki, and see if things work correctly there.
>
> I suspect you made a change to the plugin's javascript and also made this 
> edit I suggest to the ViewTemplate.
>
> If you did change the javascript, you should probably remove the plugin 
> and reinstall.
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-09-14 9.51.20 AM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:38:26 AM UTC-3 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Charlie - editing the viewtemplate lead to another problem - 2 click on 
>> one tiddler open all standard tiddlers for edit. 
>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 11:29:20 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You find the viewtemplate in .Danielos 2click2edit plugin 
>>> <https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-2click2edit/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fdanielo515%2F2click2edit>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 10:36:23 AM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> thank you. Can you give me a link about the viewtemplate, cuz I can't 
>>>> find it on google. 
>>>>
>>>> And why we put a "<$click>" here
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:50:49 AM UTC+8 cj.v...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of altering the javascript, give what's in the screenshot 
>>>>> below a try.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do note: for the change to take effect, you do have to save and reload 
>>>>> your TiddlyWiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-09-12 1.48.30 PM.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 12:34:03 PM UTC-3 imleg...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed the tiddler 2click2edit. I want to change it a little 
>>>>>> that when a tiddler start with the "$", don't trigger the edit command. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already found the related code. Which 
>>>>>> is $:/plugins/danielo515/2click2edit/ClickListener.js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I need to change the code 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> ClickListener.prototype.editTiddler = function(event) { 
>>>>>> //alert(this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle()); 
>>>>>>   this.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-edit-tiddler", param: 
>>>>>> this.getVariable("currentTiddler")}); 
>>>>>> }; 
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle() seems not right, 
>>>>>> how to fix it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And is there a manual for program for tw? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2029ba0f-66f1-4cfb-b96b-7ab9501ac9f1n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to get the title of a tiddler in js?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Charlie - editing the viewtemplate lead to another problem - 2 click on one 
tiddler open all standard tiddlers for edit. 
On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 11:29:20 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> You find the viewtemplate in .Danielos 2click2edit plugin 
> <https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-2click2edit/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fdanielo515%2F2click2edit>
>
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 10:36:23 AM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> thank you. Can you give me a link about the viewtemplate, cuz I can't 
>> find it on google. 
>>
>> And why we put a "<$click>" here
>>
>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:50:49 AM UTC+8 cj.v...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Instead of altering the javascript, give what's in the screenshot below 
>>> a try.
>>>
>>> Do note: for the change to take effect, you do have to save and reload 
>>> your TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-09-12 1.48.30 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 12:34:03 PM UTC-3 imleg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I installed the tiddler 2click2edit. I want to change it a little that 
>>>> when a tiddler start with the "$", don't trigger the edit command. 
>>>>
>>>> I already found the related code. Which 
>>>> is $:/plugins/danielo515/2click2edit/ClickListener.js
>>>>
>>>> I think I need to change the code 
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> ClickListener.prototype.editTiddler = function(event) { 
>>>> //alert(this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle()); 
>>>>   this.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-edit-tiddler", param: 
>>>> this.getVariable("currentTiddler")}); 
>>>> }; 
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> But this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle() seems not right, how 
>>>> to fix it. 
>>>>
>>>> And is there a manual for program for tw? 
>>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/21ebc62d-eaf4-4109-a7e6-aa679d90ac54n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to get the title of a tiddler in js?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

You find the viewtemplate in .Danielos 2click2edit plugin 


On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 10:36:23 AM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> thank you. Can you give me a link about the viewtemplate, cuz I can't find 
> it on google. 
>
> And why we put a "<$click>" here
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:50:49 AM UTC+8 cj.v...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Instead of altering the javascript, give what's in the screenshot below a 
>> try.
>>
>> Do note: for the change to take effect, you do have to save and reload 
>> your TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-09-12 1.48.30 PM.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 12:34:03 PM UTC-3 imleg...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I installed the tiddler 2click2edit. I want to change it a little that 
>>> when a tiddler start with the "$", don't trigger the edit command. 
>>>
>>> I already found the related code. Which 
>>> is $:/plugins/danielo515/2click2edit/ClickListener.js
>>>
>>> I think I need to change the code 
>>>
>>> ```
>>> ClickListener.prototype.editTiddler = function(event) { 
>>> //alert(this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle()); 
>>>   this.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-edit-tiddler", param: 
>>> this.getVariable("currentTiddler")}); 
>>> }; 
>>> ```
>>>
>>> But this.getVariable("currentTiddler").getTitle() seems not right, how 
>>> to fix it. 
>>>
>>> And is there a manual for program for tw? 
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1bb1bf2c-05b3-4c78-a2d8-9e8c1d83b263n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: If possible, can GG continue to co-exist with TiddlyTalk?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Kosmo,

Agreed, for all its faults, I find GG easier to use, and would like the 
> group here to remain active. TT is just fussy and annoying.
>

I do not think it is just fussy and annoying. More material will be 
collected in one place over time and be easier to find. Example the *How to* 
and the *Showcase *categories - and more.

It is worth testing Talk tiddlywiki out for some time - if at all possible. 
Some of us have not used Discourse before and need some time to find out 
how it really works.

GG active or not  does not help much if most of the activity has moved. 



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/487ac89b-7fb8-4912-a8a7-b4f29086bef0n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: If possible, can GG continue to co-exist with TiddlyTalk?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

> . * (I think that's something that could be done now, seeing how well 
> TiddlyTalk has  been received.)*


I have no idea how many users that used GG or if they are all moving to 
Talk Tiddlywiki. There is also the possibility that some are moving to 
other places. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0833e50f-a2ea-43cf-a40d-21b4b4dcc9f6n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: If possible, can GG continue to co-exist with TiddlyTalk?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Charlie,
I would be surprised if you are the only one, that need the simpler GG for 
some reason. Also from time to time some earlier tiddlywiki users return to 
GG - and of course Tiddlywiki after some  years.
I hope we can keep GG around. Many or few needing it - we should not miss 
out on any of you.



On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 4:58:14 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> I gave TiddlyTalk a go, and it is like death by a million cuts, 
> cognitively speaking.
>
> Too many design issues with TiddlyTalk for me to operate with it.
>
> The design of GG, for all of its warts, works for me because of lack of 
> features, because of the simplicity.
>
> So I just have to manage sensory/cognitive overload and over-stimulation 
> from: number of discussions, number of participants/members, number of 
> forks within one conversation.
>
> GG feels very much like Gmail, so there isn't much, if any, of a 
> transition from one to the other.  Continuous transitions in how to 
> think/work/anything, that gets pretty nerve-wracking and exhausting.
>
> So if there is no cost/burden/inconveniences to the current integration of 
> the two forums, please keep this GG around.  (Worst-case deal, I can create 
> my own GG as a place to share code/videos when it is time to pull the plug 
> on this GG.)
>
> I really don't think TiddlyTalk can be modified to accommodate me, and I 
> don't think it should be modified to accommodate me.  I believe TiddlyTalk 
> is best for the community as-is.
>
> Besides, trying to explain every little thing that is challenging to me, 
> and why it is challenging to me, that is way too overwhelming (more to 
> think about, more to somehow communicate, ...).  And depressing.
>
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ef03a52b-f26c-4029-a699-8cb701603dc3n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to start TW5 with sidebar collapsed

[strikke...@gmail.com]

It is possible - just go to Hide Sidebar On Startup 
 . 
You will find the necessary tiddlers and explanation there.

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:18:34 PM UTC+2 Faber wrote:

> Hello, it's possible to start TW5 with sidebar collapsed, or autclick the 
> "hide sidebar" when TW5 is opening?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/34ddb1b4-c1c2-4556-beff-f81b77b68e58n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Very basic EditTextWidget tutorial and how I often specify target tiddler name

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Please Charlie, do not be harsh on yourself. You do know, that videos about 
Tiddlywiki and what we can do in tiddlywiki is our all time favourites.
I like that you are creating several smaller videos on the subject, that 
makes it easier to understand and follow - and keep up the concentration. 
That makes it easier for me - and I would guess others  - suffering some 
degree of a language barrier. 


On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 5:23:23 AM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://youtu.be/qOJc2sFiPd8
>
> Not much of an award-winning video.  Although I really don't like 
> recording myself, I strangely had fun doing this one.
>
> Maybe because I wasn't tripping all over myself quite as badly as my 
> norm.  Well, the outtakes of my first three tries would prove otherwise...
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/db75eaeb-06f4-4639-9248-1f034fdf3ee7n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Increase width of the sidebar

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@TW Tones,
I had good help from your tool some time ago when I had to work on several 
laptops with different screen sizes and resolutions. In that situation it 
quickly became a must have.

Birthe

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 1:58:38 PM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Well, 
>
> To be clear it answers the original request. It allows you to change the 
> sidebar width. Be it increase or reduce.
>
> Even if you do not use the tool by looking inside it you can see what it 
> changes. And make this change manually.
>
> Tones
> On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 18:33:39 UTC+10 heusmich wrote:
>
>> OK, thanks for the tool, I tried it but I think I don´t need it.
>>
>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 7. September 2021 um 10:01:56 
>> UTC+2:
>>
>>> You can download the link from TW Tones - go to tiddlywiki.com , import 
>>> it. Then you can see how it works and if you like it.
>>>
>>> In short you get a new page control - not shown - but you can select in 
>>> from the sidebar Tools tab. Clicking that button opens a modal to select 
>>> the necessary values. That is good for easy experimentation until you find 
>>> the right solution for you.
>>> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before I install it, what exactly does it do?
>>>>
>>>> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 7. September 2021 um 01:52:54 UTC+2:
>>>>
>>>>> I made this tool for interactive sidebar width
>>>>>
>>>>> see attached
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 07:10:31 UTC+10 heusmich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, this is working.
>>>>>> Thx!
>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 6. September 2021 um 
>>>>>> 23:00:39 UTC+2:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fluid story, fixed sidebar - then go to the bottom - to sidebar 
>>>>>>> width - enter what you want for the sidebar, and the rest will be used 
>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>> story. 
>>>>>>> If that does not work for you - I really do not know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:45:45 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Normally I use fluid story, fixed sidebar. But then six seventh of 
>>>>>>>> my screen are used for the story and one seventh is used for the 
>>>>>>>> sidebar.
>>>>>>>> When I change it to fixed story, fluid sidebar, then three fourth 
>>>>>>>> of the screen are used for the sidebar and only one fourth for the 
>>>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>>> All the settings for "Story right", "Story width" and so on stay 
>>>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>> It would be nice if I could manually change the width of the 
>>>>>>>> sidebar and then the rest of the screen will automatically be used for 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> story, or vice versa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 6. September 2021 um 
>>>>>>>> 22:21:46 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You found the right place. In Theme Tweaks Options, what are your 
>>>>>>>>> setting - for Sidebar layout. Check that it is fixed story, fluid 
>>>>>>>>> sidebar. 
>>>>>>>>> Then see if your setting change. If it does not work. Do you have any 
>>>>>>>>> stylesheets installed - that could have effect on the sidebar width.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:40:04 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi @all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it somehow possible to increase the width of the sidebar?
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile I have a lot of tiddlers and sub-tiddlers, that I often 
>>>>>>>>>> have to scroll to the right to see the tiddlers when navigating in 
>>>>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>>>>> sidebar.
>>>>>>>>>> Under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks I can find some 
>>>>>>>>>> settings, but they don´t seem to change anything.
>>>>>>>>>> So if possible I would double the width of the sidebar, then it 
>>>>>>>>>> would be much better for me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4afd1a6e-0232-48f4-801e-3ddc9e9b7f2an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Increase width of the sidebar

[strikke...@gmail.com]

You can download the link from TW Tones - go to tiddlywiki.com , import it. 
Then you can see how it works and if you like it.

In short you get a new page control - not shown - but you can select in 
from the sidebar Tools tab. Clicking that button opens a modal to select 
the necessary values. That is good for easy experimentation until you find 
the right solution for you.
On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:23:37 AM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:

> Before I install it, what exactly does it do?
>
> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 7. September 2021 um 01:52:54 UTC+2:
>
>> I made this tool for interactive sidebar width
>>
>> see attached
>>
>> On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 07:10:31 UTC+10 heusmich wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, this is working.
>>> Thx!
>>> :D
>>>
>>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 6. September 2021 um 23:00:39 
>>> UTC+2:
>>>
>>>> Fluid story, fixed sidebar - then go to the bottom - to sidebar width - 
>>>> enter what you want for the sidebar, and the rest will be used for story. 
>>>> If that does not work for you - I really do not know.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:45:45 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Normally I use fluid story, fixed sidebar. But then six seventh of my 
>>>>> screen are used for the story and one seventh is used for the sidebar.
>>>>> When I change it to fixed story, fluid sidebar, then three fourth of 
>>>>> the screen are used for the sidebar and only one fourth for the story.
>>>>> All the settings for "Story right", "Story width" and so on stay the 
>>>>> same.
>>>>> It would be nice if I could manually change the width of the sidebar 
>>>>> and then the rest of the screen will automatically be used for the story, 
>>>>> or vice versa.
>>>>>
>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 6. September 2021 um 22:21:46 
>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You found the right place. In Theme Tweaks Options, what are your 
>>>>>> setting - for Sidebar layout. Check that it is fixed story, fluid 
>>>>>> sidebar. 
>>>>>> Then see if your setting change. If it does not work. Do you have any 
>>>>>> stylesheets installed - that could have effect on the sidebar width.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:40:04 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi @all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it somehow possible to increase the width of the sidebar?
>>>>>>> Meanwhile I have a lot of tiddlers and sub-tiddlers, that I often 
>>>>>>> have to scroll to the right to see the tiddlers when navigating in my 
>>>>>>> sidebar.
>>>>>>> Under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks I can find some 
>>>>>>> settings, but they don´t seem to change anything.
>>>>>>> So if possible I would double the width of the sidebar, then it 
>>>>>>> would be much better for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b9f65313-c4ef-4ecd-a93b-01a94de86987n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Increase width of the sidebar

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Fluid story, fixed sidebar - then go to the bottom - to sidebar width - 
enter what you want for the sidebar, and the rest will be used for story. 
If that does not work for you - I really do not know.

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:45:45 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:

> Normally I use fluid story, fixed sidebar. But then six seventh of my 
> screen are used for the story and one seventh is used for the sidebar.
> When I change it to fixed story, fluid sidebar, then three fourth of the 
> screen are used for the sidebar and only one fourth for the story.
> All the settings for "Story right", "Story width" and so on stay the same.
> It would be nice if I could manually change the width of the sidebar and 
> then the rest of the screen will automatically be used for the story, or 
> vice versa.
>
> strikke...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 6. September 2021 um 22:21:46 
> UTC+2:
>
>> You found the right place. In Theme Tweaks Options, what are your setting 
>> - for Sidebar layout. Check that it is fixed story, fluid sidebar. Then see 
>> if your setting change. If it does not work. Do you have any stylesheets 
>> installed - that could have effect on the sidebar width.
>>
>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:40:04 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:
>>
>>> Hi @all,
>>>
>>> Is it somehow possible to increase the width of the sidebar?
>>> Meanwhile I have a lot of tiddlers and sub-tiddlers, that I often have 
>>> to scroll to the right to see the tiddlers when navigating in my sidebar.
>>> Under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks I can find some 
>>> settings, but they don´t seem to change anything.
>>> So if possible I would double the width of the sidebar, then it would be 
>>> much better for me.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bb41ed41-003e-4255-91d1-e82ea1b3530dn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Increase width of the sidebar

[strikke...@gmail.com]

You found the right place. In Theme Tweaks Options, what are your setting - 
for Sidebar layout. Check that it is fixed story, fluid sidebar. Then see 
if your setting change. If it does not work. Do you have any stylesheets 
installed - that could have effect on the sidebar width.

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:40:04 PM UTC+2 heusmich wrote:

> Hi @all,
>
> Is it somehow possible to increase the width of the sidebar?
> Meanwhile I have a lot of tiddlers and sub-tiddlers, that I often have to 
> scroll to the right to see the tiddlers when navigating in my sidebar.
> Under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks I can find some settings, 
> but they don´t seem to change anything.
> So if possible I would double the width of the sidebar, then it would be 
> much better for me.
>
> Best regards
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e610705e-01b8-47f8-8c6d-7cc2cc9d03efn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Reboot of Subsume plugin

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I did a test upgrading my TW to the last version of subsume plugin and 
added Flibbles config tids. No changes to your macros. It seems to work.

Ad the line to the macros as you did in the former version of subsume - and 
it does *not work*. Could that be what caused the confusion?


On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> It is totally understandable. After all the mixes and matches with your 
> beloved stroll - you have the experience. I must admit that I kept using 
> the first version of subsume, due to wanting to use relink - more than the 
> subsume-edit. I prefer using the link and drag to your col2edit in the 
> sidebar ;-)
> Don't let this stop you from sharing your goodies with us. I use and love 
> a lot of your products - Thanks you!
>
> @Flibbles
> Thanks for all the help you offer. Now we can as users add those config 
> tids ourselves and see how it goes.
>
> Birthe
>
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 5:06:40 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi Flibbles,
>>
>> I don't think the problem was the config file, but the first line you had 
>> me insert in my macros, so that they would be recognized by Relink and then 
>> relinked. Those need to ship with my plugin. But the user may or may not 
>> have the Relink plugin and may or may not have tweaked the Editor type 
>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FEditorTypeMappings%2Ftext%2Fvnd.tiddlywiki>
>>  
>> when installing my plugin. Not all of the scenarios run smoothly, and I 
>> don't recall the details. So it is hard to figure out how to write the 
>> instructions to take into account all the possible scenarios. Hope that 
>> helps.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:21 AM Flibbles  wrote:
>>
>>> Huh. Don't know what could have been causing that problem. I've looked 
>>> through your plugin and there's nothing that should be causing the problem 
>>> you're describing.
>>>
>>> I do agree that your plugin should not ship with Relink, but I figured 
>>> you would keep the configuration file included with your project. If you 
>>> have the tiddler...
>>>
>>> $:/config/flibbles/relink/macros/subsume/tid
>>>
>>> included, with the text content of "title", then you don't have to do 
>>> anything else. And (in theory) anyone can install your plugin and/or Relink 
>>> in any order they choose. It's up to them, and your plugin would work fine 
>>> without it. I'd push this change to show you what I mean, but I can't find 
>>> any sort of git repository.
>>>
>>> Basically, the files listed under your plugin's contents would be:
>>>
>>>
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/editortoolbarbutton/subsume
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/editortoolbarbutton/subsume-edit
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/images/subsume
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/images/subsume-edit
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/macro/
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/macro/subsume-edit
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/readme
>>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/stylesheet
>>> $:/config/flibbles/relink/macros/subsume/tid
>>>
>>> Which looks a little weird, but is entirely legal, and how a lot of 
>>> cross-plugin integration is done. That config file is the only interaction 
>>> you'd have with Relink. It does nothing if Relink isn't around, but if they 
>>> ever get around to installing relink, then it will automatically come to 
>>> life and integrate with the relinking whitelist. (If it doesn't, that's my 
>>> problem.)
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 8:42:59 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Flibbles, 
>>>>
>>>> It had to do with how complicated the documentation of installing 
>>>> things was after you mentioned the line to insert at the top of my macro. 
>>>> My plugin had the config tiddler, and everything (Subsume plugin, Relink 
>>>> plugin, config tiddler, text.vmdetc tiddler had to be done in a particular 
>>>> order, or else the tiddlers were showing as titles, no text, and no way to 
>>>> open to edit. And my plugin site, would it complicate things even further 
>>>> if I have Relink installed already?  I decided to make it simpler and 
>>>> leave 
>>>> Relink out. I use Relink fine with Subsume with no problem, but 
>>>> don't want the hassle of supporting a bunch of people who install it 
>>>> wro

Re: [tw5] Re: Reboot of Subsume plugin

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Hi Dave,
It is totally understandable. After all the mixes and matches with your 
beloved stroll - you have the experience. I must admit that I kept using 
the first version of subsume, due to wanting to use relink - more than the 
subsume-edit. I prefer using the link and drag to your col2edit in the 
sidebar ;-)
Don't let this stop you from sharing your goodies with us. I use and love a 
lot of your products - Thanks you!

@Flibbles
Thanks for all the help you offer. Now we can as users add those config 
tids ourselves and see how it goes.

Birthe

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 5:06:40 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi Flibbles,
>
> I don't think the problem was the config file, but the first line you had 
> me insert in my macros, so that they would be recognized by Relink and then 
> relinked. Those need to ship with my plugin. But the user may or may not 
> have the Relink plugin and may or may not have tweaked the Editor type 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki 
> 
>  
> when installing my plugin. Not all of the scenarios run smoothly, and I 
> don't recall the details. So it is hard to figure out how to write the 
> instructions to take into account all the possible scenarios. Hope that 
> helps.
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:21 AM Flibbles  wrote:
>
>> Huh. Don't know what could have been causing that problem. I've looked 
>> through your plugin and there's nothing that should be causing the problem 
>> you're describing.
>>
>> I do agree that your plugin should not ship with Relink, but I figured 
>> you would keep the configuration file included with your project. If you 
>> have the tiddler...
>>
>> $:/config/flibbles/relink/macros/subsume/tid
>>
>> included, with the text content of "title", then you don't have to do 
>> anything else. And (in theory) anyone can install your plugin and/or Relink 
>> in any order they choose. It's up to them, and your plugin would work fine 
>> without it. I'd push this change to show you what I mean, but I can't find 
>> any sort of git repository.
>>
>> Basically, the files listed under your plugin's contents would be:
>>
>>
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/editortoolbarbutton/subsume
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/editortoolbarbutton/subsume-edit
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/images/subsume
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/images/subsume-edit
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/macro/
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/macro/subsume-edit
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/readme
>> $:/plugins/giffmex/subsume/stylesheet
>> $:/config/flibbles/relink/macros/subsume/tid
>>
>> Which looks a little weird, but is entirely legal, and how a lot of 
>> cross-plugin integration is done. That config file is the only interaction 
>> you'd have with Relink. It does nothing if Relink isn't around, but if they 
>> ever get around to installing relink, then it will automatically come to 
>> life and integrate with the relinking whitelist. (If it doesn't, that's my 
>> problem.)
>>
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 8:42:59 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Flibbles, 
>>>
>>> It had to do with how complicated the documentation of installing things 
>>> was after you mentioned the line to insert at the top of my macro. My 
>>> plugin had the config tiddler, and everything (Subsume plugin, Relink 
>>> plugin, config tiddler, text.vmdetc tiddler had to be done in a particular 
>>> order, or else the tiddlers were showing as titles, no text, and no way to 
>>> open to edit. And my plugin site, would it complicate things even further 
>>> if I have Relink installed already?  I decided to make it simpler and leave 
>>> Relink out. I use Relink fine with Subsume with no problem, but 
>>> don't want the hassle of supporting a bunch of people who install it 
>>> wrongly and I have to go in and help them. My goal is to be in the 
>>> TiddlyWiki world less and less, and in my research more and more. But when 
>>> I come up with a solution, I want to share it with others. That's why I ask 
>>> others to adopt my projects, which everyone studiously ignores.
>>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:43:27 PM UTC-5 Flibbles wrote:
>>>
 Hey David Gifford,

 Flibbles again. Just wondering if there was some problem with Relink 
 that was preventing the integration. Unless Relink is causing some sort of 
 glitch, I would have thought integrating our two plugins would have been 
 easy peasy using the whitelist method. What was going wrong?

 -Flibbles

 On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:41:09 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:

>
> Hi everyone
>
> I have rebooted the Subsume plugin rather than updating it. (
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/subsume.html)
>
> The good news is that it now includes a way to have a subsume with an 
> edit button. I like this way better than the regular subsumes with links.
>
> The bad news is that 

[tw5] Re: How to use this plugin I paste the url and click create button nothing happens

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Are you still struggling with the same plugin 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/SuoXhD3XMVk/m/eJQpCT9pAgAJ ?
I followed your link and saw that there are no releases published.


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 4:40:00 PM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> As the title said I don't know how to use it.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bcc137e2-f189-4f56-affe-3558ebd186a4n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to make the web bookmark like notion?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Maybe you can find some help in an earlier discussion here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/pr42e29nwU8 
To be honest I did not even know something like this existed. I am using 
Tiddlyclip http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/ go to github for the browser 
extension https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases


On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 12:23:56 PM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> What insert the url link into the tiddler, and the url will become a small 
> preview of the web site just like the notion web bookmark. How to make it? 
>
> https://github.com/akhater/TiddlyWiki-EasyBookmark
>
> I found this link. But after I follow the step noting happens.
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e5e25520-baf3-42e9-aa7c-8dfe1d155064n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mohammed,
Go to preferences then Interface and you will see Sams Simple theme. 

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 5:31:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:03 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, GG still works better for me than TT on my desktop.
>>
>> I don't do mobile, and I suspect it is the mobile goodness in discourse 
>> that makes the desktop experience pretty crappy from my perspective.
>>
>> Every several days or so, I do visit https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/.
>>
>> My big annoyance at the moment: I have a nice 27 inch display and almost 
>> half of the width is used up by obscenely sized margins on left and right 
>> side, forcing me into more scrolling up and down.  (Not an issue when 
>> viewing list of topics; is an issue when viewing a specific topic.)
>>
>
> *Q:*
>
> To the attention of https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/. admin!
> Are there other themes out there to be selected based on the user's taste 
> and need?
>
>  
>
>>
>> If that gets addressed, then I'll be fine moving to talk.tiddly.org when 
>> GG gets locked.
>>
>> On the positive side:
>>
>>- My previous annoyance with much-too-busy topics screen was resolved 
>>by the "Sam's Simple Theme". 
>>- WCAG Dark color scheme is good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 1:10:21 PM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> One more exciting feature of talk.tiddlywiki.org
>>>
>>> When I send a message in GG, I see it in talk.tiddlywiki.org. It 
>>> mirrors GG and all posts (Q)
>>>
>>> So, when I am not active in GG, I see what is going on in GG!
>>> Amazingly is If I send a post in GG, then I can edit it in TT (
>>> talk.tiddlywiki.org)
>>> TT is forgiving enough to allow me to edit my mistakes in GG!
>>>
>>> Are you still hesitant which is better: GG or TT?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:
>>>
 More features

 *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *

 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
 3. allows me to reply privately to author
 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
 6. display the summary of page if I put a link

 talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!  

 On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:

> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ 
> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>
>
>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified 
>what is going on Google Forum
>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very 
>good feature I frequently need)
>4. it supports pinig other users
>5. it support code block
>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>
>
> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
 -- 

>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
 an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.

>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c0cec418-7062-427b-b0e3-dbd0be1efa3bn%40googlegroups.com
  
 
 .

>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ea329d7a-830b-44a5-a5c8-66b564a3f51dn%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b788daea-e4ab-4261-8818-e3a95788501dn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Font problems --- while editing, while displaying devanagari text

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Thank you @Télumire for writing this up. I am sure it will help a lot of 
people.

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:37:37 AM UTC+2 Télumire wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here's an easy way to get the css path to an element :
>
> Open the inspect element tool : ctrl+shift+c (firefox/chrome) , then 
> select the element you want to inspect
> You can also do a right-click>inspect 
>
> The element will be highlighted in the dev tool pannel that shows up. Make 
> sure this is the correct element (sometimes it can be nested inside the 
> element inspected), then right click on the highlighted element > copy > 
> copy selector or copy css path. This will give a selector css for the 
> element.
>
> This doesnt always give you the selector you need, for example if you do 
> that with chrome on the text area of a tiddler, in edit mode , you will get 
> :
>
> body > textarea
>
> This is because the textarea is in an iframe, which is treated like a 
> separate document by the browser. In this case, just select the iframe that 
> contains the element and you' ll get this :
>
> body > div.tc-page-container-wrapper > div > div > div > section > 
> div.tc-tiddler-frame.tc-tiddler-edit-frame.tc-tiddler-exists> span > span > 
> div:nth-child(5) > div > iframe
>
> This rule is very specific and can be generalized with  a bit of clean up :
>
> .tc-tiddler-edit-frame  iframe 
>
> Now if you look closely at the html, you'll see that the iframe actuall 
> has several class(tc-edit-texteditor and tc-edit-texteditor-body), but 
> for some reason chrome doesnt copy those. So if we correct this, we get :
>
> .tc-tiddler-edit-frame  .tc-edit-texteditor.tc-edit-texteditor-body {.. 
> your rules css here ..} 
>
> See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspector and 
> https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/css/ for more info on the dev 
> tools, and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS to learn more 
> about CSS
> Le vendredi 27 août 2021 à 15:49:21 UTC+2, Stobot a écrit :
>
>> Sorry to highjack the thread a bit - hoping we solved your problem Sandip!
>>
>> @Birthe / strikke... - can I ask how you learned to navigate the class 
>> hierarchy? I'm trying very hard how to learn this and am really struggling. 
>> I recently started using the Inspect / F12 stuff, but It's not pointing me 
>> to the right place. Is there a guide for this stuff somewhere? For example 
>> when I "inspect" the edit area while in edit view I get this (below 
>> screenshot) - how would I get that to your `tc-tiddler-frame 
>> textarea.tc-edit-texteditor` answer?
>>
>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not know about the two column view. But for editing I am using 
>>> following at the moment.
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler, give it a title and tag $:/tags/Stylesheet and the 
>>> following content:
>>>
>>> tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor {font-size: 125%; 
>>> background: #485052; color: #48E16A;}
>>>
>>> This will certainly not be what you want, but you can insert your own 
>>> color and size.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 12:50:18 PM UTC+2 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel that as I switch from a single column view to a two column view, 
>>>> the display font size reduces. I do not want that to happen. Any way to 
>>>> achieve that?
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, the font that is used when I am editing a tiddler is 
>>>> definitely smaller than the one used for displaying the tiddler. How do I 
>>>> increase the font size when I am editing a tiddler?
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, is there a way to specify the font to use when displaying and 
>>>> editing, say Devanagari text?
>>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/40a24351-bf98-454f-ad67-275df761ea22n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Font problems --- while editing, while displaying devanagari text

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Thank you @Stobot. You are of course right - I missed something in the copy 
paste.
On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 5:30:17 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote:

> I think strikke/@Birthe might have forgot a leading dot(period). So:
> .tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor {font-size: 125%; 
> background: #485052; color: #48E16A;}
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 11:18:28 AM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> Hello Stobot,
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> About the two column view, it was a plugin I was using called Stories. It 
>> lets me open the story in two columns. But I have disabled it for now.
>>
>> I have already tried tweaking settings in theme tweaks. That has not 
>> helped. Those settings affect the display font. But not the font when I 
>> edit.
>>
>> @strikke,
>>
>> Thanks. I tried your solution. But that did not have any effect on the 
>> display. I tried changing the colors, etc. But nothing changed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27/08/21 7:24 pm, strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> @Stobot. I am sorry but I do not know. I just remembered that I had 
>> solved my problem in an old tiddlywiki from 2015, found it and looked i 
>> through to see where i was and how. Sorry. 
>> The inspector is the only help I know of. It is gradually becoming a 
>> better help for at least some thing.
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:49:21 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to highjack the thread a bit - hoping we solved your problem 
>>> Sandip! 
>>>
>>> @Birthe / strikke... - can I ask how you learned to navigate the class 
>>> hierarchy? I'm trying very hard how to learn this and am really struggling. 
>>> I recently started using the Inspect / F12 stuff, but It's not pointing me 
>>> to the right place. Is there a guide for this stuff somewhere? For example 
>>> when I "inspect" the edit area while in edit view I get this (below 
>>> screenshot) - how would I get that to your `tc-tiddler-frame 
>>> textarea.tc-edit-texteditor` answer? 
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not know about the two column view. But for editing I am using 
>>>> following at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Create a tiddler, give it a title and tag $:/tags/Stylesheet and the 
>>>> following content:
>>>>
>>>> tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor {font-size: 125%; 
>>>> background: #485052; color: #48E16A;}
>>>>
>>>> This will certainly not be what you want, but you can insert your own 
>>>> color and size.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 12:50:18 PM UTC+2 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel that as I switch from a single column view to a two column 
>>>>> view, the display font size reduces. I do not want that to happen. Any 
>>>>> way 
>>>>> to achieve that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, the font that is used when I am editing a tiddler is 
>>>>> definitely smaller than the one used for displaying the tiddler. How do I 
>>>>> increase the font size when I am editing a tiddler?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, is there a way to specify the font to use when displaying and 
>>>>> editing, say Devanagari text?
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/ywoDOeneA4c/unsubscribe.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/74e32a0f-c90f-48ed-a2c7-0c74a1526d55n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/74e32a0f-c90f-48ed-a2c7-0c74a1526d55n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Sandip P Deshmukh
>> Email: deshmuk...@gmail.com
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/626e0c98-75e9-4cd8-bba6-09f4c4f54070n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Font problems --- while editing, while displaying devanagari text

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@Stobot. I am sorry but I do not know. I just remembered that I had solved 
my problem in an old tiddlywiki from 2015, found it and looked i through to 
see where i was and how. Sorry. 
The inspector is the only help I know of. It is gradually becoming a better 
help for at least some thing.

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:49:21 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote:

> Sorry to highjack the thread a bit - hoping we solved your problem Sandip!
>
> @Birthe / strikke... - can I ask how you learned to navigate the class 
> hierarchy? I'm trying very hard how to learn this and am really struggling. 
> I recently started using the Inspect / F12 stuff, but It's not pointing me 
> to the right place. Is there a guide for this stuff somewhere? For example 
> when I "inspect" the edit area while in edit view I get this (below 
> screenshot) - how would I get that to your `tc-tiddler-frame 
> textarea.tc-edit-texteditor` answer?
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
>
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I do not know about the two column view. But for editing I am using 
>> following at the moment.
>>
>> Create a tiddler, give it a title and tag $:/tags/Stylesheet and the 
>> following content:
>>
>> tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor {font-size: 125%; 
>> background: #485052; color: #48E16A;}
>>
>> This will certainly not be what you want, but you can insert your own 
>> color and size.
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 12:50:18 PM UTC+2 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>
>>> I feel that as I switch from a single column view to a two column view, 
>>> the display font size reduces. I do not want that to happen. Any way to 
>>> achieve that?
>>>
>>> Secondly, the font that is used when I am editing a tiddler is 
>>> definitely smaller than the one used for displaying the tiddler. How do I 
>>> increase the font size when I am editing a tiddler?
>>>
>>> Lastly, is there a way to specify the font to use when displaying and 
>>> editing, say Devanagari text?
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/74e32a0f-c90f-48ed-a2c7-0c74a1526d55n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Font problems --- while editing, while displaying devanagari text

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I do not know about the two column view. But for editing I am using 
following at the moment.

Create a tiddler, give it a title and tag $:/tags/Stylesheet and the 
following content:

tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor {font-size: 125%; background: 
#485052; color: #48E16A;}

This will certainly not be what you want, but you can insert your own color 
and size.

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 12:50:18 PM UTC+2 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> I feel that as I switch from a single column view to a two column view, 
> the display font size reduces. I do not want that to happen. Any way to 
> achieve that?
>
> Secondly, the font that is used when I am editing a tiddler is definitely 
> smaller than the one used for displaying the tiddler. How do I increase the 
> font size when I am editing a tiddler?
>
> Lastly, is there a way to specify the font to use when displaying and 
> editing, say Devanagari text?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2d37dd76-c4cc-4741-af36-aa2fd7080e1fn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

<> gives you the color number from the palette - that will be 
the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
their use of Tiddlywiki. 
Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
> in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
> ? Is this correct to assume?
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>> $:/ControlPanel  
>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>>
>>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
>>> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
>>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
>>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>>
>>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>>>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>>
>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>>> word-wrap: break-word;
>>>> <>
>>>> color: <>;
>>>> *background-color: <>;*
>>>> fill: <>;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
>>>> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback 
>>>>> I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. 
>>>>> Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this 
>>>>> behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>>>>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>>>>> following CSS to my theme
>>>>>
>>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>>>  background-color: #000;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
>>>>> doesn't 
>>>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>>>
>>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>>>
>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/40866b2d-6080-4670-a6eb-df094e089f31n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to $:/ControlPanel  
select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>> word-wrap: break-word;
>> <>
>> color: <>;
>> *background-color: <>;*
>> fill: <>;
>> }
>>
>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
>>> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
>>> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
>>> and I have begun to fix it.
>>>
>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>>> following CSS to my theme
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #000;
>>> }
>>>
>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't 
>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>> }
>>>
>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>
>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8ffed4f7-49b2-4d60-b540-f364dbd5d56cn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Tony,
Ed did not complain. He would not like to miss totally out on the group and 
is afraid that will happen! Explained that his need was to receive email 
summary as that is the only way it would be possible for him to enjoy the 
part possible for him to use. The question was not about the reasoning for 
some to want the move - but: "Will I be able to receive email summary from 
this new group - and if so, can someone help me get it set up?"

Just as when you asked for a couple of days, why you were not able to login 
and get writing in the new group - and asked repeatedly to get help from 
moderators to be able to write to the group. (Sure easy to sign up - you 
now write). Other people have other problems, and not everyone has all of 
your expertise in using all sorts of groups at a professional level.

As a promoter for the move and now a leader in the new group prepare for 
questions like this - and be happy when they are asked. This group is large 
and lots of users have used it for years - but have special needs to be 
able to do so.  If questions like this is not met with answers - those 
users will just be sorry and give up without telling you - and have lost 
yet another thing in life. Please remember that someone's gain is often 
happening while others loose out.

We know that quite some users of this group -found ways to keep using 
Tiddlywiki and this group. And at. some point explained their special needs 
and why they needed a solution. Poor eyesight or blindness has been one of 
them.

I would think that promoting the discourse group - why not make it clear - 
can you use the group directly from receiving emails - emails summary. Can 
you use the group fully if your only way of being able is using a screen 
reader?

Others have written earlier about having difficulty with busy screens, 
moving parts - and lot of colour - lots of changing screens with shifting 
layouts - and even more I cannot remember now. Explain how to use it for 
those - if possible.

If people with special needs are not in the target group for the the new 
group - save time and explain why.

Please think about it - and ask people to explain their problems - and try 
to find solutions. Use those points in the promotion.  Plenty of telling it 
is beautiful, easy, what some wants etc. I think most have read that by now.

And the questions have to be asked before your wished making this group 
read only - because afterwards - you will never know.

Who *IS* in the Target group for the new group? And then list the 
promoting  points - ALL of them. Show that list clearly in both groups.

Please - I did not in anyway want to offend anyone - but we are not all the 
same.
 
On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 1:46:44 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Ed,
>
> Many of us who are deeply imbedded and active in Google Groups have good 
> reasons and arguments to move. Apart from the fact you can't even reply on 
> a mobile, mark code in a forum post and more Discourse solves a range of 
> problems and issues that I expect you do not experience every day.
>
> We can't rely on Google any more and moving to talk.tiddlywiki.org puts 
> control into the communities hands. In many ways "a move" if not "this 
> move" has being on the cards for years, however getting consensus from the 
> community is like herding cats. To put this decision on Jeremy alone is 
> also asking too much.
>
> I know change can be difficult but as always the community is here to 
> help, and from what I have seen Discourse offers everything and more than 
> GG. So I am confident we can restore the functionality you want.
>
> Please continue to raise issues but also let the community help you 
> transition or solve the problems you experience, or even ultimately change 
> our minds because of your experience.
>
> If you did not see yet, signing up at  talk.tiddlywiki.org with your 
> google login is possibly the easiest entry to the new system.
>
> Yours sincerely
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 24 August 2021 at 01:15:03 UTC+10 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Unless Jeremy plans to do the same sorry but no thanks and even then 
>> probably not. Other than it being a perhaps more feature rich, and newer 
>> platform is there really a burning need to make this switch now? I know its 
>> been debated here for a long time and have read the arguments both for and 
>> against but this sounds as though it is being forced upon us regardless of 
>> Jeremys reluctance to do so for some reason. Maybe google has announced it 
>> is killing off groups, Jeremy has decided it is for the best, or something 
>> else I am unaware of? (very possible I suffer from brain damage and am no 
>> longer really in the know anymore, but do rely on getting these emails to 
>> try and stay up on developments with TiddlyWiki and the plugin work being 
>> done). I can still use TiddlyWiki to great advantage but no longer have the 
>> ability to write plugins or do many things I used to do before. 

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I think it is due to you writing just before the post from JWH. Something 
seems to happen in the transfer. Now we really need a bug emoji added to 
the selection over therel

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 9:31:04 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote:

> Here's something that is very concerning.
>
> Look at this thread on Discourse. At least two of the posts marked as 
> coming from me (_Mark_S_via_TiddlyWi 
> ) are actually from 
> JWH . 
>
> That's a pretty frustrating bug.
>
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-7 Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, JWH —
>>
>> I think the confusion is that there are two types of Discourse boards:
>>
>>1. those hosted on Discourse.com, where someone pays to maintain an 
>>account and use their server's shared resources
>>2. those hosted privately on your own server/domain name, where the 
>>webmaster or dev team install and maintain the Discourse software
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/331d964e-c7e1-4059-aac5-173c3b865281n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

It is far easier. Follow the link to https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ that is 
where you are to sign up. When signing up, you will be asked some questions 
- answer them it is a kind of tutorial . Take you time looking around and 
get to know the new forum. You are absolutely not the only forum newbie.

On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 1:30:42 PM UTC+2 JWHoneycutt wrote:

> Answers (I think) for true forum newbies...
>
> Sign up for Discourse
>
> Then use this link - which apparently is on Discourse (but can't be found 
> from Discourse): https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>
> "https://talk.X.org; is a Discourse link - maybe they all are? I 
> apologize for the super basic stuff I failed to follow. I just need to 
> avoid posting until I have struggled longer...
>
> JWH
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 7:15:02 AM UTC-4 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>> Looks like there’s a Google Group. Perhaps you could ask there if they 
>> have set up a Discourse instance (this is not it) and it’s address.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 7:03:19 AM UTC-4 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>
>>> Completely unfamiliar with Discourse. I did sign up. I am unable to find 
>>> any of you on there, and i am sure i am not the only one who does not know 
>>> how to navigate on Discourse yet.
>>>
>>> BTW, I assume it is not the same thing as Discord - right?
>>>
>>> JWH
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:04:59 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:
>>>
 So it turns out you don't need Enterprise to have 1000 members. You can 
 get premium, and then pay the 4c per user additional fee. So that makes 
 the 
 yearly cost $440. Not that I'm promoting it, necessarily.

 My main point is that most of the prior conversations assumed zero cost 
 forum solutions. There wasn't a whole lot of exploration of low-cost 
 solutions. 

 Discourse seems nice, though we can't really test it's ability to 
 dumpster-dive yet. But I'm not sure it's $5/month nicer than GG. At the 
 end 
 of the day, it's just a forum. I suspect that after a few months, and it 
 doesn't seem so shiny any more, that others will feel the same way.


 On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 4:47:08 PM UTC-7 PMario wrote:

> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:53:40 AM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services 
>> you expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars.
>
>
> ah. ok
>  
>
>> But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when 
>> I signed up. At the time there was no user-count limit for the basic 
>> group. 
>> Hopefully they won't rescind that policy.
>>
>
> Yea, you have probably been an early adopter. That sometimes happens. 
> ... So you shouldn't give up that account ;)
> -mario
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e8da23cd-4d29-4421-874d-d0d3c964d0ebn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Some you will find here at GG as usual and some have moved to 
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 1:15:02 PM UTC+2 JWHoneycutt wrote:

> Looks like there’s a Google Group. Perhaps you could ask there if they 
> have set up a Discourse instance (this is not it) and it’s address.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 7:03:19 AM UTC-4 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>> Completely unfamiliar with Discourse. I did sign up. I am unable to find 
>> any of you on there, and i am sure i am not the only one who does not know 
>> how to navigate on Discourse yet.
>>
>> BTW, I assume it is not the same thing as Discord - right?
>>
>> JWH
>>
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:04:59 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> So it turns out you don't need Enterprise to have 1000 members. You can 
>>> get premium, and then pay the 4c per user additional fee. So that makes the 
>>> yearly cost $440. Not that I'm promoting it, necessarily.
>>>
>>> My main point is that most of the prior conversations assumed zero cost 
>>> forum solutions. There wasn't a whole lot of exploration of low-cost 
>>> solutions. 
>>>
>>> Discourse seems nice, though we can't really test it's ability to 
>>> dumpster-dive yet. But I'm not sure it's $5/month nicer than GG. At the end 
>>> of the day, it's just a forum. I suspect that after a few months, and it 
>>> doesn't seem so shiny any more, that others will feel the same way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 4:47:08 PM UTC-7 PMario wrote:
>>>
 On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:53:40 AM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote:

> No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services 
> you expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars.


 ah. ok
  

> But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when I 
> signed up. At the time there was no user-count limit for the basic group. 
> Hopefully they won't rescind that policy.
>

 Yea, you have probably been an early adopter. That sometimes happens. 
 ... So you shouldn't give up that account ;)
 -mario




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dc762291-5118-4aae-a77d-76c0b5ff116an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

> This Group here has more than 1000 users and the goal of the new platform 
> is to increase the number of users. ... So please compare apples with 
> apples!
>

Hoping that no user of GG will be lost and a lot of more users will be 
interested in Tiddlywiki due to the change of forum is a hope we can all 
share, but it is hardly an exact number.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7df36e41-443b-40e8-8bc2-e7a84d5b283fn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark, we do not know if GG exist i 2 or 3 years -  we do not even know how 
many would be left to return to GG or go to somewhere else. If the move is 
a success - and everybody or most people move and like it. Success. If a 
lot of people are lost in the moving and too many gradually leave - not so 
much.

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 5:47:42 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote:

> So mostly it's the meta issues that concern me.
>
> First, someone is paying for Discourse, right? It's not free like GG. Is 
> that sustainable, or will we back at GG in 2 or 3 years?
>
> Second, is the search better on Discourse? Because that was the main 
> concern about GG -- things become lost in the mist of time (the mist of 
> time being more than two weeks ago).
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 6:25:59 AM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Personally I have used many kinds of forums and conversational systems 
>> and the good ones have a number of features that you find are needed and 
>> help both with communications and adoption. Discourse has many if not all 
>> these features, and sure they may be implemented differently in different 
>> solutions, but in the long run all of these are needed. It may take a 
>> little longer to get used to the way it works, but from my experience it is 
>> about what we need in the long run not simply what we may want initially.
>>
>> With my experience I have found Discourse a walk in the park, with the 
>> odd little exception.  Why, because almost everything Discourse does or 
>> permits, is in a wide range of similar solutions. What I am trying to say 
>> is much of it is industry standard and learning Discourse will be reusable 
>> skills you can use in other places.  This is not just learning about a 
>> particular product but learning about the state of the art in collaboration 
>> systems. 
>>
>> Sure we can criticise any system for sure, nothing is perfect, but if 
>> helps hearing someone experienced in such things such as myself, it is all 
>> going to be worth it, its moving forward in a big step and it is largely 
>> based on standard practices. I urge you to push through the barriers to 
>> change or the new because we will all be rewarded. 
>>
>> I would also add, I have tried to get us to move before now and it was 
>> like herding cats, if we have any momentum at all I think we should move to 
>> an alternative, especially since Google has let us down big time. Eg No 
>> code, no mobile, are you kidding Google!
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>> On Saturday, 21 August 2021 at 22:49:19 UTC+10 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I signed up a few days ago and have looked around to get to know it - 
>>> and hopefully find something I liked about it. In between looking around 
>>> and reading- I started up a few "comfort" tiddlywikis.
>>>
>>> It looks rather complicated to me. Time will hopefully help.
>>> A lot of users over quite some time discussing tiddlywiki, and not forum 
>>> details will make it more interesting. But I realise that right now - it is 
>>> necessary to get the forum the way it can be - and users need help. - to 
>>> later be able to tell everyone else how easy it really is.
>>>
>>> Sorry - it might be my age.
>>>
>>> @Mohammad,
>>> The tutorial is nice and start when signing in - I wonder why so many 
>>> did not find it.
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5b42ca8e-b480-4c37-9f31-70caa95b1df1n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I signed up a few days ago and have looked around to get to know it - and 
hopefully find something I liked about it. In between looking around and 
reading- I started up a few "comfort" tiddlywikis.

It looks rather complicated to me. Time will hopefully help.
A lot of users over quite some time discussing tiddlywiki, and not forum 
details will make it more interesting. But I realise that right now - it is 
necessary to get the forum the way it can be - and users need help. - to 
later be able to tell everyone else how easy it really is.

Sorry - it might be my age.

@Mohammad,
The tutorial is nice and start when signing in - I wonder why so many did 
not find it.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0d4dd385-9a78-4488-905d-b64fec328999n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@saq,
Can tiddlymap be used for digital gardening?  I remember a lot of questions 
about that subject about a year ago. 

Birthe



On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 10:24:40 AM UTC+2 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is a video <https://streamable.com/quq3f8> courtesy of 
> Defiant_Information 
> from reddit <https://www.reddit.com/user/Defiant_Information/> that shows 
> how to set up Stroll with TiddlyMap.
>
> If you have further questions I suggest you post them on Talk TiddlyWiki 
> <https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/>, where you may also get input from Dave, 
> the creator of Stroll.
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:37:30 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
>> difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
>> lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
>> was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
>> using it with  
>> Tiddlymap.
>> Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
>> Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set 
>> up. But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can 
>> be used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
>> gardening tool is only one of the uses.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was trying this tutorial 
>>> <https://nesslabs.com/digital-garden-tiddlywiki> and felt stuck when 
>>> Anne didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't 
>>> sure if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if 
>>> the tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>>>
>>> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
>>> case?
>>>
>>> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin 
>>> gardening on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most 
>>> others, so as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I 
>>> missing anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c0894964-52ea-473b-a03d-85d8ee0910b0n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
using it with  
Tiddlymap.
Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set up. 
But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can be 
used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
gardening tool is only one of the uses.

Birthe


On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was trying this tutorial 
>  and felt stuck when Anne 
> didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't sure 
> if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if the 
> tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>
> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
> case?
>
> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin gardening 
> on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most others, so 
> as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I missing 
> anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>
> thanks,
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/74355e4b-5e2a-4081-8417-ae46294b9297n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@ Tones,

The tutorial had started, you were expected to bookmark the message. When 
you do that - the tutorial continues - keep answering until you get the 
certificat.

Birthe
On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 2:29:32 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Mario,
>
> For me start tutorial only gave me the same original post. I am not an 
> admin!
>
> [image: Snag_24a351e5.png]
> I will look for a tutorial though
>
> Thanks
> Tones
> On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 05:51:28 UTC+10 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 9:43:13 PM UTC+2 Folke Hermansson 
>> Snickars wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How can I come back to the discobot  tutorial if I missed it when I 
>>> joined?
>>>
>>
>> You should still have the message in your in-box. 
>>
>> You can restart the "conversation" when you reply with : start tutorial 
>>
>> [image: discobot-01.gif]
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/814dac98-308e-46f8-8afc-8ae9b0ebd41cn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@cj.c,
You wrote exactly what I was thinking. 

Birthe

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 2:40:40 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don't think I can go over there to play with it.  When I'm forced to go, 
> I'll try it.  If I can't stand it, I'll have a decision to make then.  
> Well, if there is an alternative interface, or an alternative way to 
> interact with the discourse site without actually having to look at it, 
> then I'll be fine.
>
> My immediate reaction to the discourse site:  It is busy.  I don't know 
> where to look.  Too many icons/avatars.  I am overstimulated.  It looks 
> like and android app.  I really dislike mobile apps.  I'm outta there.
>
> Google groups keeps me happy because it reminds me of Gmail in regards to 
> layout.  Visually appealing, not overstimulating, 
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 6:41:57 PM UTC-3 sammadi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Plus, the Discourse site does not leak emails oh so liberally like GG!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 12:39:09 AM UTC+3 abes...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Discourse interface makes it far better than GG, especially on 
>>> mobile imho. I think there are a couple of things the moderators and admins 
>>> should consider:
>>>
>>> 1. Allow cross-site replies; as seen above, it seems folks would prefer 
>>> being able to reply to GG posts from Discourse to ease the transition
>>> 2. Allow easy access to GG posts from Discourse, especially if the above 
>>> is technically unfeasible or difficult. Currently, one cannot easily click 
>>> somewhere on Discourse to go straight to the GG post. One has to either 
>>> manually search or click on some bookmarked link, and then find the post 
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:34:45 AM UTC+3 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
 I've logged in, but was unable to reply to a GG post over there, so 
 came back here. :P

 I don't have a lot to say about it yet, but will come back to try it 
 more.

 Best,
 Chris

 On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:28:39 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Also it should be mentioned that those who join the new forum will not 
> miss any post on Google Forum! as the new forum mirror GG forum!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:41 AM Saq Imtiaz  
> wrote:
>
>> It would be great if we could get more community members to join the 
>> new forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ and use it for 
>> discussions, and provide feedback on how they find the user experience.
>>
>> Note that you can log in with a Google or Github account, or create a 
>> new user account specifically for the forum.
>>
>> Saq
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:30:28 AM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an 
>>> experiment at this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with 
>>> Google 
>>> Groups, but if people like the new system then we will migrate fully 
>>> over 
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few 
>>> hours time:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>
>>> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing BTC!
>>> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
>>>
>>> Is this the one I wished?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC <
>>> hypnotize...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi tiddlywikians,

 there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

 Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move 
 to the new Forum?

 just out of interest :)

 Best wishes,
 BTC

 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
 send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
 To view this discussion on the web visit 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d1c6b96b-968b-4f67-a602-f7dd1a17d905n%40googlegroups.com
  
 
 .

>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from 

[tw5] Re: ViewToolbar expand on hover?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Jan did here: https://szenio.de/Grid/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJJ%2Fsidecontrols

Easy to change to what you like. I have used it a lot.

Birthe
On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:12:20 PM UTC+2 amreus wrote:

> Also has anyone experimented with a right-aligned vertical ViewToolbar?  
> It would make short tiddlers taller, but I think it might make for an 
> interesting option.
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:07:34 AM UTC-4 amreus wrote:
>
>>
>> I am sure I have seen someone's ViewToolbar expand when hovering the 
>> mouse over it.  Is there a link for an implementation?  
>>
>> I'd like to try it. My toolbar is getting longer as I add my own tools.  
>> I am also wondering if the expand-on-hover would work better, or maybe the 
>> title and toolbar need to be on separate lines which I have no idea how to 
>> do at the moment.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1f2b5f4c-ce7b-4459-af2c-e9f2217d2a98n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Just a goofy thought: a way to get javascript into a Tiddler

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I am not so sure about the security running javascript in iframes. 
Everywhere we are told, that we should sandbox the iframe for that reason. 
I am not the one to know anything about it - I am just worried.

It is all about knowing what we are doing - and I am not in the know.

Birthe

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:21:31 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, for sure a backdoor way to get javascript into TW, I'm assuming safe 
> (i.e. TiddlyWiki knows nothing about the javascript in the iFrame, and the 
> javascript in the iFrame knows nothing about the javascript.
>
> So should be a nice little sandbox.
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:54:15 AM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Charlie
>>
>> I assume this is a very clever solution!
>> Can we say this is a  backdoor to inject JS into TW.
>> Of course I am not familiar with iframe features in TW!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 6:57 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know what made me think of this.
>>>
>>> In case this has not been brought up in a while (I doubt this is new to 
>>> seasoned folk) ...
>>>
>>> I was thinking: could I use an iFrame to include simple javascript in a 
>>> tiddler without getting into macros or plugins that enable javascript.
>>>
>>> And, if I could, then could I set things up so that the iFrame is 
>>> showing javascript dynamically created by the tiddler ?
>>>
>>> So here is a way to show a digital clock in TiddlyWiki, for 
>>> non-programmers who just want to copy and paste javascript code from the 
>>> web without figuring out how the javascript code works :
>>>
>>> Put this in a brand new tiddler:
>>>
>>> *<$vars* *vSrcDoc*={{{ [[
>>> let clockEl = document.getElementById("clockDiv");function 
>>> getClockTime() {  let date = new Date();  let hr = 
>>> date.getHours();  let min = date.getMinutes();  let sec = 
>>> date.getSeconds();  hr = ("0" + hr).slice(-2);  min = ("0" + 
>>> min).slice(-2);  sec = ("0" + sec).slice(-2);  clockEl.innerHTML = 
>>> `${hr}:${min}:${sec}`;}setInterval(getClockTime, 1000);  
>>> ]] }}}*>*
>>> *>* style="border:none;width:100%;"
>>> *>*
>>> **
>>>
>>> Sneaky sneaky, has me wondering what kind of other fun things could be 
>>> done...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb08b664-8cc9-4531-bd25-783463ebbef4n%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d3de9dc4-724b-4bbd-9996-def1466ef046n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Do TW Versions prior to 2011 still exist?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Archive 

Lots of fun to be had ;-)


On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 8:36:02 PM UTC+2 dougla...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I would like to explore some of the earliest versions of TiddlyWiki.  I 
> can access the first few commits on the original 2011 GitHub repo for the 
> original version, but I am aware that TiddlyWiki has been around since much 
> earlier than 2011.  For example, Jeremy Ruston gave a talk at the 2006 
> BlogTalk Conference about it.
>
> Are any of these earlier versions still available for downloading or for 
> code review?
>
> Thanks so much!
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9c21ef35-0d8c-4d0f-9bbe-04ad2619e6d4n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: You ask, I Deliver: Language switching via Oral Command and a Promise of custom commands to come in the Text-to-Speech Plugin!

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@flanc, I tested it once more- after importing the danish language plugin 
and it did write some sentences correct...and some rather amusing. It will 
be very useable though. In fact it is much better than I had hoped for, 
Danish being used by so few people. So nice, I know I will use this a lot. 

Thank you so much for all the work you and BurningTreeC are doing on this.

Birthe


On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:03:56 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Strikke…, yes. Any language shown on the demo is theoretically be 
> supported by the plug-in. I’m not sure if there is a Danish translation of 
> TW. With my new idea to just use the TW language, there may be some 
> limitation. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:01 AM strikke...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi flanc,
>> I followed the link to Web Speech API 
>> <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi.html> 
>> Demonstration. 
>> Danish can be used, will it also be possible to use it using your plugin 
>> with Danish?
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 2:11:12 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love the feedback! 
>>>
>>> Something to do with the language names. Each of those language names 
>>> were decided rather carefully, since, for example, catalan was understood 
>>> in a different word every time, but the word "catalonian" was transcribed 
>>> with perfect accuracy. One possible solution would be to test for a variety 
>>> of different words that sound like the keyword, similar to what BTC did 
>>> with the new "Ok Wiki" functionality, and that would require you awesome 
>>> folks to test the words, and report back what they are transcribed as.
>>>
>>> In addition to this, I forgot to add, there are multiple variants of 
>>> several languages, such as english US, UK, Australian, South African; 
>>> spanish Spain, etc. etc. I plan to add all of this functionality sometime 
>>> soon, as well.
>>>
>>> For all of the languages the API supports that my little wrapper program 
>>> could easily be changed to modify, they are listed in this StackOverflow 
>>> post: https://stackoverflow.com/a/23733589/14719982. Feel free to speak 
>>> the translated language names into the plugin, and see what they are 
>>> transcribed as.
>>>
>>> (Since the default lang I have set is English-US, the language names 
>>> must sadly be translated into English to be understood, such as Espanol to 
>>> Spanish. This also accounts for maybe "improper" languages names, as 
>>> pointed out.)
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 4:41:54 AM UTC-4 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all, I've now changed the *Command *command to *Ok Wiki*
>>>>
>>>> I've made it also detect Okay Vicky, Ok WC, and more keywords ... If 
>>>> those of you who are testing this would report any other keywords we 
>>>> should 
>>>> add, that would be a great help
>>>>
>>>> What should work right now is *Ok Wiki change language to <> 
>>>> *and *Ok Wiki stop talking*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 10:28:45 UTC+2:
>>>>
>>>>> Ciao Flanc... & BTC
>>>>>
>>>>> *SIDE NOTES ON API BEHAVIOR*
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not effect anything YOU two are doing. Merely observations 
>>>>> on the "behaviours" of the recognitions. 
>>>>> But I do think it is useful to understand the end-product the API 
>>>>> issues forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> *1 -* There are occasional QUIRKY things that happen that have no 
>>>>> clear rationale. For instance if you dictate "cat dog mouse horse" you 
>>>>> get 
>>>>> back ... "cat dog Mouse horse". Maybe mice, or mouses, actually rule 
>>>>> the universe as "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" contended"? 
>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1MmQjXrkwp98jNdc17j3tr3/mice>
>>>>>
>>>>> *2 -* Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are simply 
>>>>> DISCARDED. (For instance in Italian mode most dictated English words are 
>>>>> just ignored).
>>>>>
>>>>> *3 - * Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are 
>>>>> capitalized as Proper Names. There 

[tw5] Re: You ask, I Deliver: Language switching via Oral Command and a Promise of custom commands to come in the Text-to-Speech Plugin!

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Hi flanc,
I followed the link to Web Speech API 
 Demonstration. 
Danish can be used, will it also be possible to use it using your plugin 
with Danish?

Birthe

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 2:11:12 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love the feedback! 
>
> Something to do with the language names. Each of those language names were 
> decided rather carefully, since, for example, catalan was understood in a 
> different word every time, but the word "catalonian" was transcribed with 
> perfect accuracy. One possible solution would be to test for a variety of 
> different words that sound like the keyword, similar to what BTC did with 
> the new "Ok Wiki" functionality, and that would require you awesome folks 
> to test the words, and report back what they are transcribed as.
>
> In addition to this, I forgot to add, there are multiple variants of 
> several languages, such as english US, UK, Australian, South African; 
> spanish Spain, etc. etc. I plan to add all of this functionality sometime 
> soon, as well.
>
> For all of the languages the API supports that my little wrapper program 
> could easily be changed to modify, they are listed in this StackOverflow 
> post: https://stackoverflow.com/a/23733589/14719982. Feel free to speak 
> the translated language names into the plugin, and see what they are 
> transcribed as.
>
> (Since the default lang I have set is English-US, the language names must 
> sadly be translated into English to be understood, such as Espanol to 
> Spanish. This also accounts for maybe "improper" languages names, as 
> pointed out.)
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 4:41:54 AM UTC-4 BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> Hello all, I've now changed the *Command *command to *Ok Wiki*
>>
>> I've made it also detect Okay Vicky, Ok WC, and more keywords ... If 
>> those of you who are testing this would report any other keywords we should 
>> add, that would be a great help
>>
>> What should work right now is *Ok Wiki change language to <> *and 
>> *Ok Wiki stop talking*
>>
>>
>>
>> TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 10:28:45 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Ciao Flanc... & BTC
>>>
>>> *SIDE NOTES ON API BEHAVIOR*
>>>
>>> This does not effect anything YOU two are doing. Merely observations on 
>>> the "behaviours" of the recognitions. 
>>> But I do think it is useful to understand the end-product the API issues 
>>> forth.
>>>
>>> *1 -* There are occasional QUIRKY things that happen that have no clear 
>>> rationale. For instance if you dictate "cat dog mouse horse" you get back 
>>> ... "cat dog Mouse horse". Maybe mice, or mouses, actually rule the 
>>> universe as "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" contended"? 
>>> 
>>>
>>> *2 -* Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are simply 
>>> DISCARDED. (For instance in Italian mode most dictated English words are 
>>> just ignored).
>>>
>>> *3 - * Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are 
>>> capitalized as Proper Names. There is some very clever thing going on 
>>> inside the recog. machine that decides when to do this.
>>>
>>> None of these minor points change anything other than the need to be 
>>> slightly aware the API does stuff and awareness of that is helpful I think.
>>>
>>> I'll may add more comments about these behaviors after I used it more, 
>>> if there any other obvious ones. 
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1059a0eb-2708-4946-b04f-84a6e320c4dcn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Charlie,
I do not understand either. I find pretty links nice, but I also find it 
handy to be able to hover them and see where the link in fact are going to. 
Not all pretty things turns out to be gold. Luckily that is how it works 
;-). Not Yuch, handy.

Birthe

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 8:15:19 AM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> *"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
> Yuck!"*
>
> Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with 
> that.
>
> A URL is a URL.  Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it 
> would matter when the link is pretty.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Charlie;
>>
>> Use the permalink button you get 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats 
>> Yuk in my view
>> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as 
>> links
>>
>> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
>> Filter Run Prefix 
>> 
>> Thats not yuck
>>
>> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if 
>> you want to see the yuck one just mouse over.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>>>
>>> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
>>> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
>>> web.
>>>
>>> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
>>> different people see things.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>>>
 Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
 Yuck!

 On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on 
> this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have 
> done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/be8fa698-a462-4fca-8d03-376df24581fbn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

[strikke...@gmail.com]

fred,

Thank you so much for your streams-fusion plugin. Just what I wished for - 
do not know why it took me so long ;-) to find it.
With lots of notes using streams it will be needed at times. it worked well 
in my wiki.

Birthe

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 5:57:27 PM UTC+2 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> @walt  please give 0.0.7-beta a try; apologies for the poor release 
> quality: http://fastfreddy.gitlab.io/streams-fusion/
>
> @tones to answer your earlier question; the button display logic is 
> provided by Saq (in response to Jan initially I think) in this tiddler 
> $:/plugins/sq/streams/nodes-list-template using this snippet
>
> <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/streams/root-buttons]]" 
> variable="btnTiddler">
> 
> <$transclude tiddler=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> my $:/plugins/phiv/streams-fusion/fuse-button button has the 
> $:/tags/streams/root-buttons; please note the snippet above is only 
> displayed on a stream root node.
>
> Were you able to try an import on a plain Streams-enabled notebook?
>
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 10:47, Frédéric Demers  wrote:
>
>> @walt; that is an oversight. I clearly didn't test well enough. I'll try 
>> to fix ASAP.
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 10:37, ludwa6  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey @fred: That's a significant upgrade, in terms of functionality and 
>>> polish -all good, except: 
>>>
>>> I seem to have lost the nifty functionality that came with v0.0.3-beta, 
>>> which was handling cleanup of superflous node tiddlers so nicely as part of 
>>> fuse process. 
>>>
>>> Unfortunately: i can't say for sure if this is directly attributed to 
>>> v0.0.6-beta upgrade, because -prior to upgrade- i took the step of deleting 
>>> those 5 tiddlers related to the streams-to-text addon 
>>> . Was that a mistake i wonder?
>>>
>>> Anyway Fred: would love to have that lost cleanup function back, if 
>>> there's anything you can do for me - much obliged!
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 12:56:53 PM UTC+1 fred@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

 Greetings everyone, version 0.0.6-beta of Streams-fusion 
  is out. It's quite a 
 bit more flexible and can output raw HTML and/or directly to clipboard. 
 Quick settings available directly from the popup menu (more settings at 
 the 
 bottom of the Streams settings screen, including a fused stream name 
 template option).

 Be careful with the "overwrite stream" option. It seems to work well 
 in full trees or in branches (via node context menu), but nonetheless, 
 backups are recommended

> ...

 To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1f745482-a72b-4d81-a8ef-878beaaecc9cn%40googlegroups.com
>  
> 
> .
>
 -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/-xTFWPwzq6g/unsubscribe.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/553fc5ae-a897-42c3-a653-6f32b2a58118n%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/327295db-9d76-4326-aafd-4e4db054a46cn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: display TOC + field

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Try this. Import the attached file to your tiddlywiki. Hope it works for 
you.

Birthe

On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 6:51:12 PM UTC+2 S² wrote:

> Any ideas?
> Stefan
>
> S² schrieb am Dienstag, 3. August 2021 um 15:38:05 UTC+2:
>
>> Hello Tones,
>>
>> thanks for feedback.
>> I adress a different issue:
>>
>> Creating a new Tiddler with a custom field 'published':
>> [image: published.png]
>>
>> --> should display in TOC like
>>
>> [image: TOC.png]
>>
>> Thanks
>> Stefan
>> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 3. August 2021 um 14:21:05 UTC+2:
>>
>>> You will need to look inside the toc macros or the documentation 
>>>  to see if there 
>>> are parameters you can use. If you use the internal and external nave the 
>>> selected tiddler is displayed in a panel to the right, you could customise 
>>> the template in use to display your fields.
>>>
>>> Otherwise you could build your own TOC macro(s) whose output includes 
>>> the fields formatted as desired.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 at 20:57:44 UTC+10 S² wrote:
>>>
 Hello Forum,

 I use for each tiddler a field 'published' which will be filled with a 
 custom date.

 How can this field be additional shown in TOC in green color?







 *<$scrollable class='tc-scrollable-demo' class="tc-table-of-contents"><>>> 'sortan[]' 
 >>*

 Thanks
 Stefan

>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d5c0ec6d-14e3-4cf8-9c2a-6f1d54a7f2c0n%40googlegroups.com.


Alttoc.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Absolutely beautiful. Looking like an awful lot of work - constantly more 
and  really all over the place. At the same time it is fitting for a 
celebration - kind of look like firework.
Love it.
Now we all know, why we love tiddlywiki so much.

Thanks to Jeremy and all developers.   

On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 8:32:16 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

>
> 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes 
>  
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d0582d86-5c50-4a87-823d-5c55817b097dn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Timimi is an extension for the browser and an added part to download and 
set up - and then of course in the extension settings in you browser, you 
set up the backup part. What it does is saving and creating backup. 

You can use your tiddlywiki as you please with the addons you would like.

Beaker Browser is absolutely interesting. I tried it for a short time - and 
it for sure is different. I stopped using it for now, finding it a little 
much with yet another browser just to use my tiddlywiki.
I don't think we have discussed Beaker Browser much since a much earlier 
version.

Birthe

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 10:01:08 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:

> Do either Beaker Browser or Timimi allow for TW addons such as TiddlyGraph?
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 11:12:11 AM UTC-4 Em Heppler wrote:
>
>> I have found Beaker Browser works really well on Linux/Ubuntu for 
>> tiddlywiki.
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Saving%2520on%2520Beaker%2520Browser.html
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:57:32 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> Birthe, I'll be looking at this solution as it may be exactly what I 
>>> need in place of TiddlyDesktop. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:33 AM strikke...@gmail.com <
>>> strikke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe it is time to stop using TiddlyDesktop for now. It seems there 
>>>> are some problems with this version of it. Wait for a new version if you 
>>>> still want Tiddlydesktop.
>>>>
>>>> Download empty tiddlywiki from Tiddlywiki.com and use a saver. I love 
>>>> Timimi by Riz. It is kind of a fairy godmother - save and creates backups.
>>>> It is all about setting it up right. Luckily Riz explains everything 
>>>> here: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>>>> I love using Tiddlywiki in the browser. Easy to make notes from stuff I 
>>>> read, saving linksand best - to drag and drop plugins and other things 
>>>> from the Tiddlywikis other people show us.
>>>>
>>>> I have one of my tiddlywikies pinned in the browser - and thus always 
>>>> ready. This one is used for tips and tricks tested and written in my own 
>>>> language Danish. (After many years this is really the one TW5 I am using 
>>>> all the time). That is due to the fact, that to create it I must have 
>>>> understood something at the time of creating.
>>>>
>>>> Also by now I have far more tiddlywikis than I would want to have 
>>>> listed in Tiddlydesktop. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really hope you get to enjoy the tiddlywiki experience soon,
>>>>
>>>> Birthe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 10:45:11 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I'm still getting the same error message: 
>>>>>
>>>>> [9629:9629:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] 
>>>>> InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured that I can still edit the html files after creating them by 
>>>>> opening the file manually (not using TiddlyDesktop)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can use TiddlyDesktop to create the new HTML files, then shut down 
>>>>> TD by exiting the terminal, and then editing teh html file by clicking on 
>>>>> the file where it's stored.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering, besides making saving files a breeze and managing 
>>>>> backups, are there any other benefits to TiddlyDesktop? The error I'm 
>>>>> having just stops me
>>>>> from using TD to open/manage the files. I think can deal with having 
>>>>> to manually back up the files.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any questions regarding this problem I'd be happy to 
>>>>> answer. Or any possible solutions. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for continuing to look into this, I appreciate any help I can 
>>>>> get because I'd like to use TiddlyWiki for work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is still giving the same exact error as before?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:08:32 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok I followed the instructions and I've su

[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Random chars as you also found. But that was not the only thing. 90 of 90 
conversations ended up in 28 imported tiddlers. 

The good news is that it kind of worked - as I am using a low end 12 year 
old laptop with 8 gb ram.

Birthe
On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:39:23 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've 
> never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no 
> issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it 
> has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
> between, or was it just a jumble?
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
>> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
>> worked - but totally unreadable.
>>
>> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>>
>> Birthe
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
>>> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
>>> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
>>> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>>>
>>> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
>>> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
>>> using. *
>>>
>>> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
>>> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
>>> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
>>> them (drag and drop works best).
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ciao flanc...
>>>>
>>>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
>>>> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> TT
>>>>
>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/52d83d4c-a1b2-4ed6-a591-72de3c576e81n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I exported 
the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It worked - but 
totally unreadable.

Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.

Birthe
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>
> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
> using. *
>
> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 conversations, 
> but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON data, which is 
> recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import them (drag and 
> drop works best).
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao flanc...
>>
>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
>> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8089440a-cb8b-46ba-87cd-69891911e026n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[strikke...@gmail.com]

d in your 
>>>>>> terminal:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $sudo apt install libgconf2-4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it asks to install listed package with a y/n type Y and then enter 
>>>>>> to continue the install. Depending on how that goes, restart your 
>>>>>> machine 
>>>>>> and then try the ./nw launch again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 4:44:00 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've followed the link and it doesn't seem to be the same issue. 
>>>>>>> Although both problems pertain to the nw file, I can still launch 
>>>>>>> TiddlyDesktop through ./nw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My problem's with getting the application to work. I can create a 
>>>>>>> new wiki, but I can't get the wiki to open up using TiddlyDesktop.
>>>>>>> If I navigate to the place where I've saved the TW file then I can 
>>>>>>> use Firefox to open up the tiddlywiki file, but I'm trying to run TW 
>>>>>>> through TiddlyDesktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I open up a wiki file using TiddlyDesktop this is what I get:
>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/1wiCj5X 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can't close that file! Not even closing TiddlyDesktop gets the 
>>>>>>> file with random date (https://imgur.com/a/1wiCj5X) to close. The 
>>>>>>> only way to close it is to close the terminal from which I launched ./nw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forgot to mention: This is the message I get when I launch ./nw 
>>>>>>> and TiddlyDesktop does open:
>>>>>>> ~/TiddlyDesktop$ ./nw
>>>>>>> [6521:6521:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] 
>>>>>>> InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The above error message that displays in the terminal can be visible 
>>>>>>> here, above the TiddlyDesktop App ( https://imgur.com/a/xnHStTf)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:23 PM strikke...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We had a similar problem earlier, discussed here 
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rXzdNBF7Ozg/m/uxNOfqY-AwAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using linux mint myself and start tiddlydesktop from an icon 
>>>>>>>> (programstarter) on my desktop. The first time I start it, it takes 
>>>>>>>> quite 
>>>>>>>> some time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:22:35 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've tried following the guide but I'm still having trouble with 
>>>>>>>>> the installation. I think that the trouble is with the following step 
>>>>>>>>> I've 
>>>>>>>>> written below, that makes the nw file executable:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the TiddlyDesktop folder, update the file permissions 
>>>>>>>>> of the Linux TiddlyDesktop Linux executable.
>>>>>>>>> sudo chmod +x nw
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I follow through with the following step, which is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finally, start up the TiddlyDesktop executable application 
>>>>>>>>> up on your Linux PC.
>>>>>>>>> ./nw 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I get this message in the terminal:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>./nw: error while loading shared libraries: 
>>>>>>>>> libgconf-2.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
>>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Than

[tw5] Re: IT'S ALL WRONG, especially documents, says Ted in 2011

[strikke...@gmail.com]

TT,

For a long time I was very interested in Nelson's Project Xanadu but it 
didn't really fruit.

In danish we have a saying, "En fugl i hånden er bedre end ti på taget."
I think you say: "a bird *in* the hand is worth two *in* the bush". But 
I find the danish better.ti på taget= ten on the roof.

Birthe

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:33:16 PM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> cj.v ... I often think: "I'm not sure what his problem is, but I'm sure it 
> is hard to spell."
>
> Yeah!
>
> Ted Nelson was/is very interesting. Why? Because he is passionate about 
> the cognizance of how the human brain is not hard coded, it is organic 
> flexibility.
> The human knows more than the computer and  can immediately grasp and use 
> newness. Computers are quite a blunt tool really.
> It is an on-going saga how the internet, especially HTML, is driving in a 
> direction that is not the wet-ware we are.
>
> For a long time I was very interested in Nelson's Project Xanadu  
> but it didn't really fruit.
> Nelson,  I think, points towards the importance of information design. 
> And that representation of information matters a lot. 
> HTML has limits that are actually quite restrictive. For instance, the 
> "list" construct is very crude. Descendant hierarchies are fine, but it is 
> all so binary if you can't go "wet" when you need to.
>
> Rambling
> TT
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 17:48:15 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just in case this is of any interest for a coffee break:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX0UN-gXBZE
>>
>> I do find Ted Nelson eccentric.
>>
>> I often think: "I'm not sure what his problem is, but I'm sure it is hard 
>> to spell."
>>
>> I always enjoy listening to him.  I always find what he has to say 
>> fantastic.
>>
>> Whenever he says something, it gives me new insights into sometimes 
>> unrelated things, but usually things that have me thinking about how I 
>> organize stuff in TiddlyWiki, or how TiddlyWiki handles things so well
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/30c2b960-e6f1-45e1-bd0a-6df891fafa20n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWorldBuilder vs TiddlyRoam

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I think it might be better to ask in a new thread - about the stories 
plugin created by Saq.  Maybe explain a little about the benefit you expect 
from the changed layout.
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:18:28 AM UTC+2 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello David and thank you for your replies above! I didn't realize I 
> didn't reply to this one before so I'm sorry for the delay! The information 
> you and the others of this group have provided has been amazing and very 
> much appreciated!
>
> One follow-up question about Stroll:
>
> How hard would it be to change the two vertical column layout to a two 
> horizontal row layout instead?
>
> So  as an example instead of 
>
> col1 col2 as it is now it would be
>
> row1
> row2 
>
> Would it be something you would be willing to do? Even if it comes down to 
> reimbursing you for your time in modifying the code in Stroll I would be 
> very much open to it.
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 8:23:40 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> There is no right answer, there is only the way that feels right to you 
>> and gives you a fast, non-tedious, enjoyable workflow based on how your 
>> mind works, which may be different from mine. The more you experiment, the 
>> more options you will find.
>>
>> The "usual" way in TiddlyWiki is tagging a tiddler with its parent topics 
>> or categories. So City A might be tagged "Cities" and "Country A". Then you 
>> write your definition and description and if you see potential links, you 
>> turn them into actual links, or use a tool like Freelinks to have them be 
>> links without them being links. Remember that Freelinks are not 
>> bi-directional. So if you mention City A in tiddler of Country A, the 
>> reference to City A will show as a link. But in the City A tiddler, nothing 
>> will change, so there will be no reference to Country A.
>>
>> I don't tend to write link-rich Wikipedia types of tiddlers, so I can't 
>> help you too much there. My current system for notetaking from reading is: 
>> Create a tiddler for the book or source. Paste the title into a "currently 
>> reading" window. Read. Take a note in the relevant topic. Use an editor 
>> toolbar button to paste the currently reading tiddler as the source of the 
>> note. Add page number. Read and repeat. Fantastic workflow for that. But 
>> you may be doing something else that requires something totally different.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-5 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and providing so much 
>>> feedback! It has been very helpful.
>>>
>>> If I may ask two follow-up questions:
>>>
>>> 1)  I do seem to be driving for a Wikipedia level of thoroughness 
>>> regarding the content, at least with this world building concept. At the 
>>> same time I'm still having trouble finding a way to collect my thoughts on 
>>> other topics in general. Do you feel it is safe to say that if I'm taking 
>>> the hitting the content with a Wikipedia level of thoroughness then I, as 
>>> you pointed out, am already doing the organization/relationship building 
>>> *manually*? If yes, is there a "better" (or more simplistic) way where 
>>> I utilize the tools in Stroll (or even Drift) to make it more automated? Or 
>>> is the effort I'm putting in just a requirement of the wikipedia level of 
>>> content?
>>>
>>> 2) Using my original example of tiddlers another method I could use 
>>> would be instead of adding the link back to the Country tiddler inside the 
>>> City tiddler description, just leave the single link at the top when you 
>>> created it from the Country tiddler and then keep typing. In that case it 
>>> is just a preference of how you want to do the link back?
>>>
>>> Also, again thank you very much for mentioning Drift. While I'm still 
>>> looking into it, and I think I came across it before though I didn't 
>>> understand it fully the first time around, from what I understand now of 
>>> "Freelinks" it might be the answer I'm looking for regarding trying to 
>>> write down as much as possible, regardless of content and topic, and have 
>>> it grouped together by keywords. It could also beneficial when I once again 
>>> combine my world tiddly with my book tiddly so as I write things in the 
>>> book I can reference it later on the appropriate/associated/specific 
>>> tiddler with Freelinks turned on.
>>>
>>> Not to sound redundant but thank you again!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:46:42 PM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi iamdar...

 TiddlyWiki always had bidirectional linking. If you create a link in 
 tiddler A to tiddler B, you could go to tiddler B, open "info" from the 
 tiddler more menu, and see tiddler A under backlinks. So obviously, 
 backlinking was pretty hidden and not very practical. Too many steps to 
 get 
 to it.

 Roam Research made bidirectional linking more visible. All the 
 references are at the bottom of 

[tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[strikke...@gmail.com]

We had a similar problem earlier, discussed here 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rXzdNBF7Ozg/m/uxNOfqY-AwAJ

I am using linux mint myself and start tiddlydesktop from an icon 
(programstarter) on my desktop. The first time I start it, it takes quite 
some time.


Birthe

On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:22:35 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:

> I've tried following the guide but I'm still having trouble with the 
> installation. I think that the trouble is with the following step I've 
> written below, that makes the nw file executable:
>
> In the TiddlyDesktop folder, update the file permissions of the 
> Linux TiddlyDesktop Linux executable.
> sudo chmod +x nw
>
> When I follow through with the following step, which is:
>
> Finally, start up the TiddlyDesktop executable application up on 
> your Linux PC.
> ./nw 
>
> I get this message in the terminal:
>
>./nw: error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.5: cannot 
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 2:37:43 AM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello and welcome!
>>
>> 2 things:
>>
>> 1) There is a known bug when trying to create a new TiddlyWiki file from 
>> within TiddlyDesktop. 
>> 2) Follow the steps outlined in the below link, including the downloading 
>> and renaming of the HTML file, and you should be good :) You can download 
>> the zip file via the browser initially if you want/it is easier. Still use 
>> the terminal for the other steps though. 
>>
>> https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/get-tiddlywiki-on-linux/
>>
>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 2:13:38 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> I've just transitioned to Linux so I'm still a noob at figuring out even 
>>> the basics. If I understood the installation instructions properly, I am to 
>>> unzip the file after downloading it, and then run /nw
>>>
>>> That didn't work, so tried to get it to launch by using the terminal. I 
>>> navigated to the TiddlyDesktop file, and then wrote ./nw and that launched 
>>> the program. Unfortunately the program isn't running as intended. When I 
>>> ran the command in the terminal this error message appeared on the terminal:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/xnHStTf
>>>
>>> Also the program itself isn't working properly. As soon as I click on 
>>> create new wiki I get this page, which I'm unable to close by clicking on 
>>> the exit button on the top right corner
>>> https://imgur.com/a/1wiCj5X
>>>
>>> I have to use the system monitor to manually shut down the nw file in 
>>> order to exit this file.
>>>
>>> If anyone can help me with this I'd be very grateful.
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1fbf802f-980c-48ca-94d7-e1fef20ea5fen%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Box Layout Tiddly Wiki

[strikke...@gmail.com]

>From the screenshot - Look at Tiddler Saving 


open it for edit, you will find that it is using tiddler 
tw5.come-card-template 

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 3:10:40 AM UTC+2 Java Development wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have around 12 initial menus which needs to be presented as BOX layout. 
> On clicking the layout it goes to the sub-category and category and finally 
> the result
>
>
> https://www.linuxhowto.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-from-2020-07-27-21-11-17.png
>
> How to display the front page with Box Layout? Any good theme is available.
>
> Thanks
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fc59e0e2-f1c7-4774-93be-19ea7a65b1a5n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Navigation Pattern Tiddly Wiki Sample

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Ton Gerners Tiddlersbar plugin 
 is 
shown in the latest version. Ton Gerner has many wikis and always 
explaining very well how to do. So much to learn from them.

You will find many links to interesting but older plugins. Some works with 
the latest version - some not. Just drag and drop the plugin to your own 
wiki and test if it works. If it doesn't - you can try to ask the original 
author.


On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 2:37:38 AM UTC+2 Java Development wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Thank you so much for the links...How to convert all of these to latest 
> tiddly wiki version. Can you please convert them and share me the link if 
> that would be easy?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 5:20 AM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Hi Java
>>
>> Here is a link to several "breadcrumb" plugins. Try those first. 
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=KCURrGnrBRPp0Ff8Vi7aKvWw
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:41:56 AM UTC-5 Java Development wrote:
>>
>>> #1 - Search Bar on top to search for any keyword inside the content
>>> #2 - Yes various categories ..Not a drop down...On click - it goes to 
>>> the next level - multi-level - sub-level cateagories - finally content will 
>>> be rendered
>>> #3 - All the categories are non-collapsable menu - fixed 
>>> #4 - This pattern is useful assume
>>>
>>> Assume - A Single book has 2 main section -> 10 sub-sections -> 10 
>>> chapters in each sub-section -> Each Chapter would have 30 paragraphs -> 
>>> Text would be rendered at last
>>>
>>> Assume A Single book has 2 main section -> 10 sub-sections -> 10 
>>> chapters in each sub-section -> Text would be rendered on clicking the 
>>> chapters if there are no paragrapahs
>>>
>>> Like breadcrum model - faster and easy navigation..
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 6:04 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 By "navigation pattern", do you mean the bar near the top of that page 
 that has Categories, Home, etc? Or are you specifically thinking of the 
 Dropdown menu for Categories? Or do you want the search bar above a top 
 menu? Or is there something you want from the card/entry, like the reviews 
 or the install button? Like I said when you wrote me by email, and as 
 others have said here already, you need to be more specific in what you 
 want to do. 

 On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 6:40:54 AM UTC-5 Java Development wrote:

> Hi TW Jones,
>
> I'm referring to the link 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=message.qna where you 
> can see the navigation and looking for a similar pattern in tiddly wiki.
>
> Tiddlywiki - We need to see how we can show up the whole page with the 
> navigation pattern. 
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:36 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> javaDev,
>>
>> I think your question is still too abstract or unclear for us to help.
>>
>> Arguably TiddlyWiki is all About navigating your content contained in 
>> your tiddlers. 
>>
>> We know so many ways and I expect can "emulate any other way of 
>> navigating content" within tiddlywiki, the question you ask seems 
>> incomplete.
>>
>> Are you actually referring to the links? eg;  ?id=message.of.the.hour
>>
>> If so this is simple to reproduce with tiddlywiki.
>>
>> tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 3 June 2021 at 06:45:27 UTC+10 Java Development wrote:
>>
>>> May be navigation would be a different meaning...As you said kind of 
>>> a catalog tiddly wiki to categorize and accessing collection of articles
>>>
>>> But not like a tree view but like a navigation view...
>>>
>>> Tiddly wiki is very faster and all can be done in one 
>>> htmlHowever all the above apps are just uses the webui...Internally 
>>> the 
>>> APK inside they have only HTML files with one index file refers to 
>>> several 
>>> index files.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for several navigation as like in the html or in the app 
>>> for easy reading, search and navigate. Something similar or near to it 
>>> in 
>>> Tiddly wiki would be awesome...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 1:01 AM Eric Shulman  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-7 Java Development 
 wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:00 AM Java Development <
> javadeve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Did any one know or come across any tiddly wiki template which 
>> follows the *navigation pattern*? 
>> I need your kind suggestion on it. I thought of creating a tiddly 
>> wiki with *navigation pattern* with all the articles in ONE 
>> HTML...
>> But not sure how to create one like any one of the below..it 

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWorldBuilder

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I also realised the problem with volant as I tried to use 
http://j.d.volantis.tiddlyspot.com/, Looking at the plugin I see 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate 
and $:/core/ui/EditTemplate. I think the problem could be changes to those 
templates in the core in later releases of TW?


Birthe

fredag den 28. maj 2021 kl. 05.27.24 UTC+2 skrev iamdar...@gmail.com:

> Unfortunately it looks like Volant (at least) doesn't play well with the 
> most up-to-date TiddlyWiki. For whatever reason that plugin breaks the 
> edit/new tiddler so that bottom fields can't be utilized and you can't 
> dismiss, delete or save the Tiddler.
>
> I'm still new to the inner workings of TiddlyWiki, though I'm familiar 
> with HTML and CSS so perhaps I can find a way to fix the plugin. 
>
> Unfortunately that means we have hit a small dead end for the time being. 
> I'll still keep updates coming though.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 11:11:30 PM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much! Appreciate it!
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 10:52:06 PM UTC-4 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5/comments/ma4d69/tiddlymap_in_storyriver_instead_of_the_sidebar/
>>>
>>>
>>> If you open the tiddlymap in story river as told in this Reddit thread, 
>>> it might work in mobile also 
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 8:06 AM Darth Mole  wrote:
>>>
 Thank you very much! I didn't realize there were two different 
 "projects" for Stroll. I'll have to go back and piece together 
 TiddlyWorldBuilder with the updated files soon. Thanks again!

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 4:37:54 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just a heads up that the file at  
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/stories.html is horribly out of 
> date and not the official link for Stroll.  Instead I believe you want: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html
>
>
> -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
 an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
 To view this discussion on the web visit 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fd3aa293-322b-414e-9829-fc6df42937b6n%40googlegroups.com
  
 
 .

>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/82ef9908-bdef-4160-ab47-796eac9c693an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: What is #TiddlyWiki?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Dave,
Very good descriptions both of them. That is exactly so - and the reason I 
need a pause sometimes, to sort out my drives. 
It is kind of comforting to read your post, I just thought I was 
messy..LOL.

A pause never last for long - too afraid of missing out.


Birthe


lørdag den 8. maj 2021 kl. 16.43.05 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:

> A free, one-file cross-platform tool that can be used offline or online, 
> for 
> a) capturing your content in chunks, 
> b) connecting, combining and organizing the chunks, and 
> c) retrieving, exporting, sharing and publishing your content,
> all in an incredibly customizable user interface 
> and supported by a wide selection of plugin 
> and a friendly open source community.
>
> Other description
>
> An addictive tool, 
> that needs other tools and knowledge just to start saving changes and 
> using it,
> whose infinite customizability will cause you spend more time tweaking it 
> than using it,
> and whose fragmentary and incomprehensible documentation will leave you 
> pounding your desk
> and confusing things like tags, tag, tagging, untagged, list, listing, 
> listed, list-before, list-after, list-behind, list-through,
> filter:"[[ and filter="[[, , 
> and $this$, <>, \define this(this), [has:this[]], [get:this[]], 
> [forget:this[]] and [all[current]this[]]
> TiddlyWiki will leave you with a long trail of files strewn across your 
> hard drive,
> each containing tweaks you experimented with to design the 'perfect' 
> system, better than the last,
> and notes you will need later but can't find because of the sheer number 
> of files you started but abandoned 
> because the next day someone announced a new plugin.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 7:05:10 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> #TiddlyWiki  is SO feature 
>> rich it is almost impossible to describe it. 
>>
>>  "Wiki" in particular kinda obscures it is really a VERY sophisticated 
>> JavaScript application to dynamically, in real time, change HTML, CSS and 
>> content of the web page it IS.
>>
>> *How would you describe it?*
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3c3e2306-1058-4c58-9835-164c4d048403n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Filtering by field within Dynamic Tables by Jed Carty

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Field names must be in lowercase,

Birthe

torsdag den 1. april 2021 kl. 21.11.45 UTC+2 skrev jorgez...@gmail.com:

> I'm using the 'Dynamic Tables' macros by Jed Carty:
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-DynamicTables
>
> I'm trying to create a table that filters tiddlys based on the presence 
> and value of a custom field and then lists the titles of the filtered 
> tiddlys with some additional fields and their values.
>
> eg:  < Dose1 Drug2 Dose2 Drug3 Dose3""" true>>
>
> This is not working. I believe it is something to do with string parsing, 
> as discussed here:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.narkive.com/pdSB8F36/tw-tw5-how-to-put-field-value-in-to-filter
>
> However, any attempts at trying to implement this in dynamic tables has 
> failed.
>
> I would be very grateful if someone could help.
>
> Many thanks!
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/29bf383c-bf95-4fa0-930f-93ef7952149an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: TiddlyMap vs. Stroll

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Tony K, did make an effort to use tiddlymap with drift, but that was in an 
early version of drift.  You can read about it here 
 . 


Birthe

torsdag den 1. april 2021 kl. 01.28.56 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:

> Hi 19y...
>
> TiddlyMap and Stroll are not rivals. Stroll and TiddlyMap are two 
> different kinds of animals. Stroll is not a plugin but is something like an 
> edition. TiddlyMap, on the other hand, is a plugin, so it can be added to 
> any TiddlyWiki file that doesn't have other pieces that conflict with it 
> (as Stroll seems to do). I imagine there are many here using TiddlyMap but 
> just don't mention it. It's a great tool and it is nice to have mind maps 
> in TW. 
>
> We did try to integrate TiddlyMap into Stroll, in part because that 
> imitates a feature of Roam Research, which was what we were shooting for, 
> and in part because people were asking for it. But it was hard to do 
> because of the two story rivers, etc. TiddlyMap needs room to breathe in 
> the sidebar, and Stroll was squishing it, and I think there was some other 
> issue, but I forget. 
>
> There is a tool called TiddlyRoam, which is basically just TiddlyBlink (a 
> precursor to Stroll) with TiddlyMap added onto it. That is probably what 
> you want.
>
> Drift is similar to Stroll and has some extra features, such as taking 
> tags more into account. I imagine TiddlyMap could be integrated into it.
>
> With my Customizer plugin, it would be possible to create a TiddlyMap-only 
> sidebar, which might make it more prominent. But I haven't had the time or 
> energy to create one myself.
>
> I hope the above helps to give a little context and history. Blessings!
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:39:27 PM UTC-6 19y...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention that for me the most interesting alternative to 
>> TiddlyMap seems to be Stroll, therefore I'm at the point where I'm 
>> thinking: TiddlyMap vs. Stroll?
>>
>> 19yc93 schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. März 2021 um 22:37:23 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Hello everbody,
>>>
>>> I'm using a mindmap tool called Freeplane for knowledge management since 
>>> some years. Because I don't like some stuff about Freeplane, I'm searching 
>>> for a alternative and came across TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> Because I'm loving mindmaps I thought about using TiddlyMap, but as I 
>>> read through all the posts in this group my feeling is, that most heavy 
>>> Tiddlywiki users are not using TiddlyMap. What are the reasons for not 
>>> using TiddlyMap?
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a9ecadd9-459b-4ac6-89c7-45a3c56cfa73n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: [Updated] Color Play: a playground for colors and palettes in Tiddlywiki

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Thank you Mohammad,
Impressive work. Lots to explore. Lovely.

Birthe
onsdag den 31. marts 2021 kl. 17.53.47 UTC+2 skrev Mohammad:

> Hi Birthe,
>  I have uploaded the wiki again! It seems something went wrong last time I 
> updated the Color Play!
> Please let me know if it works for you.
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6aa5a245-0c4a-44e8-83bc-20b658380974n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: [Updated] Color Play: a playground for colors and palettes in Tiddlywiki

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mohammad,
Does this link work? All I get to see is all white page and no wiki.


Birthe

tirsdag den 30. marts 2021 kl. 20.34.03 UTC+2 skrev Mohammad:

> I have updated the codes and demos to https://colorplay.tiddlyhost.com/
>
>
>- The code was not bundled as plugin lets you to hack and change it as 
>you like
>- The sidebar tab shows the Color Play Components
>
>
>
>
>
> Rev 0.9.1 - Mar 30th, 2021
>
>- [FIXED] minor bug in color viewtemplate
>- [NEW] color contrast analyzer
>- [NEW] JS macro to calculate the contrast ratio
>- [NEW] Palette Browser (by Soren Bjornstad)
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:42 AM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Following the work by Thomas and Chris I have updated the Color Play!
>> This version adds the Coloractions plugin by Thomas! So you can use it as 
>> a utility to generate colors and check readability!
>>
>> I have updated the codes and demos to https://colorplay.tiddlyhost.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>- The code was not bundled as plugin lets you to hack and change it 
>>as you like
>>- The sidebar tab shows the Color Play Components
>>
>>
>>
>> *The purpose is to let any user create a color palette and a new taste! 
>> and perhaps share it with others. *
>> I would be happy to receive your created palettes and share them with 
>> others through the Color Play page!
>>
>> Don't be afraid: In your free time give a try and create a new color 
>> palette and then share it! 
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>   References:
>>
>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/lGabtMCLmyk/m/y_SV5jdhAgAJ
>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ATBaeD5uDYE/m/S3O7w6LBAgAJ
>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/SswEriOom7M/m/RCO1QcjlAgAJ
>>- 
>>https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FColorAction
>>- 
>>
>> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fapps%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Fpaletteeditor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/526a5bf6-b350-4053-b343-f67f74aacdf3n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark S,
Quite a dilemma. It is *old* now because it was an *early* contribution. 
Then Hopefully people will search for *recent* contributions.

Birthe - with thanks for all the great work, you are doing!
onsdag den 24. marts 2021 kl. 23.23.06 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:

> I think it's still usable, it just shouldn't be a first choice. Like 
> "Creating a simple Contacts DB" is still a great introductory explainer 
> about using ViewTemplates. 
>
> Not everything that is old is undesirable. I hope. "Obsolete" suggests 
> unusable or that there is a replacement, which isn't always the case. 
> I've already started using "Deprecated" for things that have an official 
> counterpart. 
>
> Now I'm resorting to look at the thesaurus. Maybe "*Oldish*" which isn't 
> quite so strong as "old" ?
>
> Heh. Maybe Ebay terms like "*For-parts-only*" .
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:20:42 PM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> "Vintage" sounds desirable nowadays! We need to communicate that this 
>> stuff is no longer usable, so maybe "Obsolete"? The description can explain 
>> why it's still worth including.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 24 Mar 2021, at 20:13, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My thought about older items is that a single link to an older item 
>>> could be the starting point for someone to make something amazing. Like 
>>> various television reboots that are more interesting than the original, but 
>>> benefit from the starting point. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes that's very true. Perhaps we should agree a tag for this kind of 
>>> situation.
>>>
>>> "Old" is pejorative. "Classic" is taken. Maybe "Vintage" ?
>>
>>
>>
>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e3f7a5ac-231d-47e4-9d5c-f624e783a734n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/33d2c7fd-6ce5-43b1-a9b9-2414e2454f73n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mohammad,
Is this the link? 
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams-tiddlytoolmap.html I do not 
remember the link, but I think Mark S did something similar testing 
notowritey.

Birthe


onsdag den 24. marts 2021 kl. 06.05.51 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:

> Hi Mark,
>  I really appreciate your efforts! I think you should develop a small code 
> to do the conversion from Toolmap to link aggregator! I know Saq converted 
> Toolmaps entry to TW tiddlers sometimes ago, but I forgot the link to that 
> Tiddlywiki!
>  I know this work is tedious and like you I think the current 
> configuration is not the best! Like you I think Jeremy shall remove the 
> restriction on description, ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:03 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Out of nearly 300 entries, less than 1% had url errors. I was hoping to 
>> do follow-ups with the w3c link validator, but it doesn't recognize the 
>> site as a document. The standard link-checker software said everything was 
>> ok, but obviously that's wrong.
>>
>> I've removed the entry with a bad url.
>>
>> I will stop working for now. It's VERY tedious condensing descriptions to 
>> 10 words and supplying tags. Mistakes are bound to happen. 
>>
>> The last thing I need is to find people upset with my work. If requested, 
>> I can roll back existing entrees.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:25:32 PM UTC-7 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> There should also be a tag to indicate "highest supported version" or 
>>> something similar if relevant (for plugins, for example) and its known. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:09:59 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 There should be a way to report dead links. LibreNote, for example, 
 turns up a 404. Someone is adding links without even checking them first.

 Also, giffmex.org has been https:// since early 2020. If those adding 
 links to giffmex.org could convert them from http: to https:, that 
 would be appreciated.

 -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/02dd9f80-b088-44d4-ae1b-c07f8d253130n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6bd12ed6-1f59-43c1-8736-0c6142e6e54en%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Chris,
Quite a task you have taken on here. It was great fun to try out. I love 
that you write: "You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet"
Truly I think I broke eggs enough to serve omelet to the city i live in. 
(Not due to any fault of yours...I must add.)
I think it could be useful and that we can learn from it too. It is not so 
easy to make colours work well together and al that. 

Birthe

torsdag den 11. marts 2021 kl. 01.18.16 UTC+1 skrev clutterstack:

> Oh, and thanks for trying it, David.
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:16:28 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Feedback: Cool! Fun! Other feedback: would be easier to use if sidebar 
>> stuff was all together and tiddler stuff was all together.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:29:22 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've just uploaded a hacked-together demo of a plugin for a palette that 
>>> you can tweak. The idea is that you choose a few colours you like (a 
>>> "mood") and decide which groups of features in TW get which of those 
>>> colours. The groups are not optimised and not all palette colour names from 
>>> Vanilla are incorporated.
>>>
>>> Moods plugin demo 
>>>
>>> I'd like to know if people think this would be useful/fun, and also in 
>>> which ways it's broken for others!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e9bcd842-884f-4078-a4ac-a9ea7a5bc2d3n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: newbie help with lists

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Welcome!


[image: Skærmbillede på 2021-03-10 14-02-58.png]
I hope a screenshot will do.

Birthe

onsdag den 10. marts 2021 kl. 13.34.49 UTC+1 skrev chena...@gmail.com:

> Hi all, TiddlyWiki first timer here.  I’m a librarian with close to no 
> computer background.  I’m *super excited* to create a digital garden, and I 
> really want to use TiddlyWiki but am also worried that I might not have the 
> necessary technical knowledge.
>
> I’m only a few tiddlers deep in my experiment, but I’ve found that when I 
> use the bullets and numbers buttons in the editor toolbar, they don’t 
> render.  (When I manually add in the html list tags it renders ok, but I’m 
> hoping there’s a way I don’t have to do that every time.)
> For example when I make some lists using the buttons in the editor 
> toolbar, the text looks like this:
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-10 at 7.15.12 AM.png]
> and it displays like this:
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-10 at 7.15.33 AM.png]
>
> All I’ve done so far is download the empty copy of TiddlyWiki from the 
> GettingStarted tiddler.  I have not installed any plugins. I’m working on a 
> macbook and opening the file in an up to date version Firefox, (but I see 
> the same problem in Chrome).
>
> I read a forum thread from October 3, where someone had a similar problem, 
> but I don’t see a “Show Bullets & Numbers checkbox” anywhere in my control 
> panel, and I tried creating the new tiddler suggested there to no avail.
>
> Thanks in advance for your kindness to a total newbie.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/44975af8-3832-4103-b9c4-99e3fd7453b8n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: [Requesting feedback] Customizer plugin

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Dave,
Looking nice and working well. I must admit though, that I would very much 
prefer it in the right side. The drop-down position being the problem.
That could be the reason for me to prefer to use it with the menubar 
plugin, where using the dropdown-position field solves that problem.

Thank you for all your hard work on this very, very good idea.

Birthe

onsdag den 10. marts 2021 kl. 04.12.21 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Hi everyone
>
> I am almost done with the Customizer plugin. Requesting any feedback 
> before I write the instructions, package the plugins, and package the 
> addons.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks to Mohammad for help with converting it to a single button with two 
> tabs.
>
> Note that the backlinks options and sidebar options I have listed will be 
> independent of the plugin, available as add-ons.
>
> There is now the ability to reorder sidebar segments right in the sidebar 
> tab of the Customizer button. 
>
> I also created a prototype of a Book tools sidebar (glossary, 
> bibliography, table of contents). 
>
> Anyone can create custom view template elements and sidebar segments by 
> tagging a tiddler $:/giffmex/viewtemplate or $:/giffmex/sidebarsegments, so 
> if you don't like my baclkink stuff and sidebar stuff, you can make your 
> own and even share them on your own sites to use with this plugin. I am 
> trying to make this as flexible and usable as possible.
>
> Blessings, Dave
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d9e2ca56-6740-423c-8dde-19def958b093n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

If you are using NoteSelf I think you should ask at 
https://forum.noteself.org/ 

tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 22.28.31 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:

> Based on your previous experience, I would immediately wonder about 
> "pouchdb" and "tiddlypouch". They might be leftovers from trying NoteSelf. 
> If you're not using NS, I would experimentally start by getting rid of 
> those two (being sure to have a backup).
>
> I think you may have some typos there. Like I suspect "elink" is actually 
> "relink" . I don't know what "online" is.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:46:43 PM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> From the last TW file that I can open on my work computer (I'm still at 
>> work...), here's what I see listed as plugins:
>>
>> Toggle
>> Context
>> click2edit
>> editor-autolist
>> edit-comptext
>> elink
>> link-to-tabs
>> tw5-markdown
>> online
>> Stories
>> tekan
>> pouchdb
>> tiddlypouch
>> core
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:27:55 AM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> It seems to be happening when loading plugins.
>>>
>>> Somehow I missed it -- do you have a list of plugins you're using?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:43:46 AM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 On work computer, think it was version 86.x.x , not 100% sure, as while 
 checking version, Chrome updated itself to Version 89.0.4389.82 (Official 
 Build) (64-bit). So, now can't see what version is was before.

 At home computer, I installed the latest Mac OSX version about 4 - 5 
 days ago...think it is version 88 or 89would have to check when I get 
 home...

 Have no idea about favicon.ico..not familiar with it.

 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:18 AM UTC-8 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> It may not matter any, but just in case: what version of Chrome are 
> you using?
>
> Also: where is favicon.ico located?
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-4 sreb...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Birthe & TT for your input..
>>
>> Meanwhile.
>>
>> Last evening at home on MBP, I created a new TW file with just Stroll 
>> added.
>>
>> Then emailed it to my work computer.
>>
>> Now I am at work and tried to open the TW file in Chrome, but get 
>> error message when it tries to load file.
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> [image: Stroll-Console Info-03-09-21.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 2:51:48 AM UTC-8 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 ... I started to install Timimi extension for Firefox, but stopped 
 when I saw the window appear listing all the permissions Timimi wants 
 ...

>>>
>>> Those permissions are UNavoidable  as Timimi accesses your drive 
>>> outside the browser. It is normal and nothing to worry over too much. 
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0060440e-37e5-430d-9cca-c81dd49c9aecn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark,
Yes I am using stroll. But I have many wikis for different purposes. 
Most extensions ask for permission more or less defined. I do understand 
though, that Timimi needs to be able to save to your drive and also to make 
the backups.

Birthe


tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 06.03.10 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Forgot to ask, Birthe, are you using Stroll ?
>
> Meanwhile, I started to install Timimi extension for Firefox, but stopped 
> when I saw the window appear listing all the permissions Timimi 
> wantssee screenshot below:
>
> [image: Timimi-Install-03-08-21.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:38:14 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>
>> THANKS, BIrthe!
>>
>> Good to hear.hopefully, this time, I won't have problems.
>>
>> We shall see....
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:13:35 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>> The plugins on you list are plugins I am using very much myself, I have 
>>> not had any problems. I know we can never be sure...used together all of 
>>> them, but I am optimistic on you behalf. 
>>> https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/releases
>>> And the how to install: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>> tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 01.06.15 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>>> I will start a new fresh TW file and then slowly, add one plugin at a 
>>>> time, if I need it, and make sure it runs on both computers, before adding 
>>>> anymore. This way I should easily know if any item causes a problem.
>>>>
>>>> I have been able to install some browser extensions in workplace 
>>>> browser, Chrome. Will check out Timimi
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:51:42 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really believe the problem for you right now is Noteself and 
>>>>> tiddlypouch. As I remember it, it was original built to be run from 
>>>>> Danielos original logging into your own database. Rebuild later for 
>>>>> people 
>>>>> to run their own nodejs wikis. It might have changed since then.
>>>>> Now as you suggest you could start a new wiki and import the other 
>>>>> plugins you like, and your own tiddlers. Saving is another question, are 
>>>>> you able to install browser extension on you workplace browser? If it is 
>>>>> possible I admit my favourite is Timimi. (lovely backups too!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>
>>>>> tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 00.26.33 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I am at work, I decided to go back to file that I last updated 
>>>>>> successfully here and open it. And it opens up OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's two screenshots of console info for this TW file. You can see 
>>>>>> that the file opened OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although given what I seen, I'm thinking to start a new fresh TW file 
>>>>>> without any of Danielo's pluginsand then see what happens on 
>>>>>> different 
>>>>>> computers, moving file back and forth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this screenshot is taken a bit further down in the list...all 
>>>>>> about tiddlypouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-2-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here's screenshot that shows list of plugins.sorry but I can 
>>>>>> seem to widen the view of the list, so right side is cut off a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Marks-TW-v8.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:02:00 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Birthe.well, I thought I had a reason at the time when 
>>>>>>> installing.I was following some instructions for setting up TW and 
>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>> suggested NoteSelf as a means to save TW file to where you want when 
>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>> click saveor at least so I thought
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&

[tw5] Re: Soarin' with Soren

[strikke...@gmail.com]

You too! I cannot stop reading. Very interesting.


tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 02.26.13 UTC+1 skrev dieg...@gmail.com:

> Agreed  David! I'm working my way through it as well! 
>
> Since it might be difficult to spell, Soren mentioned in the video a 
> helpful shortcut: http://562.nz/
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a note to Soren Bjornstag to thank him for his ZettelKasten TW. I 
>> just decided to open the All tab and read in order. I am not quite through 
>> the A's, and have already learned a lot. And in the process I read three of 
>> his blog posts too. Great stuff. All that in addition to his very helpful 
>> video walkthrough of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> And a note to everyone else to check it out: 
>> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cdbbea03-217a-411f-a0bf-e1e5ad37aa5cn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark,
The plugins on you list are plugins I am using very much myself, I have not 
had any problems. I know we can never be sure...used together all of them, 
but I am optimistic on you behalf. 
https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/releases
And the how to install: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/

Birthe
tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 01.06.15 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> I will start a new fresh TW file and then slowly, add one plugin at a 
> time, if I need it, and make sure it runs on both computers, before adding 
> anymore. This way I should easily know if any item causes a problem.
>
> I have been able to install some browser extensions in workplace browser, 
> Chrome. Will check out Timimi
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:51:42 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I really believe the problem for you right now is Noteself and 
>> tiddlypouch. As I remember it, it was original built to be run from 
>> Danielos original logging into your own database. Rebuild later for people 
>> to run their own nodejs wikis. It might have changed since then.
>> Now as you suggest you could start a new wiki and import the other 
>> plugins you like, and your own tiddlers. Saving is another question, are 
>> you able to install browser extension on you workplace browser? If it is 
>> possible I admit my favourite is Timimi. (lovely backups too!)
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 00.26.33 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Since I am at work, I decided to go back to file that I last updated 
>>> successfully here and open it. And it opens up OK
>>>
>>> Here's two screenshots of console info for this TW file. You can see 
>>> that the file opened OK.
>>>
>>> Although given what I seen, I'm thinking to start a new fresh TW file 
>>> without any of Danielo's pluginsand then see what happens on different 
>>> computers, moving file back and forth.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-03-08-21.png]
>>>
>>> And this screenshot is taken a bit further down in the list...all about 
>>> tiddlypouch.
>>>
>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-2-03-08-21.png]
>>>
>>> And here's screenshot that shows list of plugins.sorry but I can 
>>> seem to widen the view of the list, so right side is cut off a bit.
>>>
>>> [image: Marks-TW-v8.png]
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:02:00 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Birthe.well, I thought I had a reason at the time when 
>>>> installing.I was following some instructions for setting up TW and it 
>>>> suggested NoteSelf as a means to save TW file to where you want when you 
>>>> click saveor at least so I thought
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like it could be the culprit or one of themso, sounds like I 
>>>> should remove it and then see if file opens up OK on work computer.
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will first admit, that I have never used tiddlypouch. I am sure you 
>>>>> have a reason. I just wonder - because due to your sending your wiki pr. 
>>>>> mail to yourself, I was sure you were using a singlefile tiddlywiki.
>>>>> I have only heard of tiddlypouch before in relation to Danielo's 
>>>>> NoteSelfbut that might be my mistake.
>>>>> The fact, that you are not able to start your wiki up - make me think 
>>>>> of, what Danielo himself called the chicken and egg problem... in the 
>>>>> discussion here: 
>>>>> https://forum.noteself.org/t/installing-the-plugins-on-an-existing-tw/24/8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 22.25.59 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Birthe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what it says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DevTools failed to load SourceMap: 
>>>>>> Could not load content for 
>>>>>> file:///P:/Wiki/maps/danielo515/tiddlypouch/boot/tpouch-boot.js.map: 
>>>>>> System error: 
>>>>>> net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:25:53 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good that you send the last screenshot. The last

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I really believe the problem for you right now is Noteself and tiddlypouch. 
As I remember it, it was original built to be run from Danielos original 
logging into your own database. Rebuild later for people to run their own 
nodejs wikis. It might have changed since then.
Now as you suggest you could start a new wiki and import the other plugins 
you like, and your own tiddlers. Saving is another question, are you able 
to install browser extension on you workplace browser? If it is possible I 
admit my favourite is Timimi. (lovely backups too!)

Birthe

tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 00.26.33 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Since I am at work, I decided to go back to file that I last updated 
> successfully here and open it. And it opens up OK
>
> Here's two screenshots of console info for this TW file. You can see that 
> the file opened OK.
>
> Although given what I seen, I'm thinking to start a new fresh TW file 
> without any of Danielo's pluginsand then see what happens on different 
> computers, moving file back and forth.
>
>
> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-03-08-21.png]
>
> And this screenshot is taken a bit further down in the list...all about 
> tiddlypouch.
>
> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-2-03-08-21.png]
>
> And here's screenshot that shows list of plugins.sorry but I can seem 
> to widen the view of the list, so right side is cut off a bit.
>
> [image: Marks-TW-v8.png]
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:02:00 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Birthe.well, I thought I had a reason at the time when 
>> installing.I was following some instructions for setting up TW and it 
>> suggested NoteSelf as a means to save TW file to where you want when you 
>> click saveor at least so I thought
>>
>> Sounds like it could be the culprit or one of themso, sounds like I 
>> should remove it and then see if file opens up OK on work computer.
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I will first admit, that I have never used tiddlypouch. I am sure you 
>>> have a reason. I just wonder - because due to your sending your wiki pr. 
>>> mail to yourself, I was sure you were using a singlefile tiddlywiki.
>>> I have only heard of tiddlypouch before in relation to Danielo's 
>>> NoteSelfbut that might be my mistake.
>>> The fact, that you are not able to start your wiki up - make me think 
>>> of, what Danielo himself called the chicken and egg problem... in the 
>>> discussion here: 
>>> https://forum.noteself.org/t/installing-the-plugins-on-an-existing-tw/24/8
>>>
>>>
>>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 22.25.59 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Birthe
>>>>
>>>> Here's what it says:
>>>>
>>>> DevTools failed to load SourceMap: 
>>>> Could not load content for 
>>>> file:///P:/Wiki/maps/danielo515/tiddlypouch/boot/tpouch-boot.js.map: 
>>>> System error: 
>>>> net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:25:53 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good that you send the last screenshot. The last partstarting with 
>>>>> the yellow triangel. refering to danielo/tiddlypouch.something. Sorry 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> am not really able to read it, but I am sure someone will know what to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 20.50.19 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Charlie and (Other) Mark !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it's possible my computer has some security settings, given the 
>>>>>> ultra high level of security IT tries to maintain at work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good idea of comparing files side-by-side and check differences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And agree, Mark S. that it's likely a plugin.and I may have 
>>>>>> installed the encrypt plugin, will have to checkif so, I can delete 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> tonight when I get home and resend it to my work computer and try again 
>>>>>> tomorrow morning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, I looked at the Console pane again and noticed that I had 
>>>>>> not opened up the first error message when I took the snapshot. So, 
>>>>>> here's 
>>>>>> a new scre

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I will first admit, that I have never used tiddlypouch. I am sure you have 
a reason. I just wonder - because due to your sending your wiki pr. mail to 
yourself, I was sure you were using a singlefile tiddlywiki.
I have only heard of tiddlypouch before in relation to Danielo's 
NoteSelfbut that might be my mistake.
The fact, that you are not able to start your wiki up - make me think of, 
what Danielo himself called the chicken and egg problem... in the 
discussion here: 
https://forum.noteself.org/t/installing-the-plugins-on-an-existing-tw/24/8


mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 22.25.59 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Thanks, Birthe
>
> Here's what it says:
>
> DevTools failed to load SourceMap: 
> Could not load content for 
> file:///P:/Wiki/maps/danielo515/tiddlypouch/boot/tpouch-boot.js.map: 
> System error: 
> net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:25:53 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good that you send the last screenshot. The last partstarting with 
>> the yellow triangel. refering to danielo/tiddlypouch.something. Sorry I 
>> am not really able to read it, but I am sure someone will know what to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 20.50.19 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Thank you, Charlie and (Other) Mark !
>>>
>>> Yes, it's possible my computer has some security settings, given the 
>>> ultra high level of security IT tries to maintain at work.
>>>
>>> Good idea of comparing files side-by-side and check differences.
>>>
>>> And agree, Mark S. that it's likely a plugin.and I may have 
>>> installed the encrypt plugin, will have to checkif so, I can delete it 
>>> tonight when I get home and resend it to my work computer and try again 
>>> tomorrow morning
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I looked at the Console pane again and noticed that I had not 
>>> opened up the first error message when I took the snapshot. So, here's a 
>>> new screenshot that shows a line of text under the heading 'Script Error'. 
>>> Don't know if this helpsbut just in case
>>>
>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems to be happening while loading plugins, which suggests that it 
>>>> might be one of your plugins causing problems.
>>>>
>>>> Are you using Danielo's encrypt plugin by any chance? There's some 
>>>> suggestion that it might be that plugin that is causing the problem. I 
>>>> don't believe that that plugin has been updated in a while.
>>>>
>>>> (Other) Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:26:51 AM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oops..thanks for catching this...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another screenshot. Think this one should be more helpful!
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:45:30 AM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You already have your developer's toolbar open. If you click on 
>>>>>> "console" it might (might!) give some hints where the problem is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:27:01 AM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back at work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, tried to open the TW file that I re-sent myself from my 
>>>>>>> MacBookPro last evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, get same error as before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's what I get and showing other info about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Marks-TW-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 6:26:21 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that 
>>>>>>>> is giving the javascript error. I have seen that same error several 
>>>>>>>> times 
>>>>>>>> through the years. 
>>>>>>>> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice 
>>&

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

USB flash drive in 
>>>>>>> work computer, a window opens with message that drive will be encrypted 
>>>>>>> with a password needed, if you try to copy any files from computer to 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> flash drive. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the past, I was able to copy files from flash drive to my 
>>>>>>> computer. Don't know if this is still true, as I have not tried this in 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, don't know for sure what will happen if I try to run portableapp 
>>>>>>> from flash drive, will have to try and see what happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed Chrome browser now on my home MacBookPro and the TW 
>>>>>>> file opened up OK. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if I don't get situation fixed on work computer, then I probably 
>>>>>>> will use Chrome at home (thereby matching Chrome on work computer) and 
>>>>>>> avoiding any incompatibility issues from using different browsers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, just checked TW file that I modified on MacBookPro with 
>>>>>>> Firefox before emailing to myself at work computer Wednesday evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Per TW tutorial video, I did create a new tiddler with a tag 
>>>>>>> "$:/tags/Sidebar and in the type field, selected "text/x-markdown" and 
>>>>>>> below that in fields put "list-before" and to the right of that 
>>>>>>> "$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open". The idea was to create a new tab in in the 
>>>>>>> right 
>>>>>>> hand side pane called 'Content'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could this cause issue with file on my work computer or is it more 
>>>>>>> likely problem is due to using two different browsers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:17:25 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>> Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I know many 
>>>>>>>> companies do not allow it.
>>>>>>>> I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is 
>>>>>>>> giving the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times 
>>>>>>>> through the years. 
>>>>>>>> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice 
>>>>>>>> until having saved and refresh the wiki.
>>>>>>>> Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. 
>>>>>>>> Only when you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> would have the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  
>>>>>>>> home 
>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>>>> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, 
>>>>>>>>> then probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop 
>>>>>>>>> up when 
>>>>>>>>> I try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT 
>>>>>>>>> guys 
>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know 
>>>>>>>>> that when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that 
>>>>>>>>> if you 
>>>>>>>>> try to copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your 
>>>>>>>>> drivebut don't know if it will let me run an app off of it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by 
>>>>>>>>> clicking on the checkmark icon in TW.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in 
>>>>>>>>>> the first place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your 
>>>>>>>>>> browser, 
>>>>>>>>>> then you will not have a working TW file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some other Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6e632445-2f69-4afa-a04f-4394a8779d37n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark,
Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I know many 
companies do not allow it.
I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.

Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is giving 
the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times through the 
years. 
I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice until 
having saved and refresh the wiki.
Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. Only when 
you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, you would have 
the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  home computer.

Birthe
lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, then 
> probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop up when I 
> try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT guys 
> have.
>
> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know that 
> when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that if you try 
> to copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your 
> drivebut don't know if it will let me run an app off of it
>
> Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by clicking on the 
> checkmark icon in TW.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the first 
>> place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, then you 
>> will not have a working TW file.
>>
>> Some other Mark
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0d63ef46-0db4-49d4-a2e9-2e16c43d4d3cn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mark,
You will still need to install it somewhere. a synced cloud folder, 
external drive or local folder. The download is an exe file - and even 
explained that it does not install into the Windows environment, I doubt 
your workplace would like it.

Birthe

lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 20.09.19 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Stan, thanks for the suggestion!
>
> So, I can run PortableApps program on my work laptop without installing 
> it? Then within it, install Firefox? If so, then it should work.
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:14:04 AM UTC-8 stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mark, you might want to check out https://portableapps.com for 
>> starters.   I don't use it anymore, but used the system years ago with 
>> great success. 
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:46:23 PM UTC-5 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Due to security concerns at my work, I can't install any programs that 
>>> require installing from an .exe file. Can only 'install' so called 
>>> 'portable apps' that just need me to unzip a file somewhere on computer 
>>> drive.  So, unless there's a portable version of FF to install, I can't use 
>>> it on my work laptop. Hence, idea to use Chrome on MBP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0dce64b8-d057-4105-abaa-5b4e84cc9612n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

David,
i see. Absolutely correct. It is kind of when a newbie wonders why the 
TableOfContent is not in empty.

Birthe

lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 20.21.12 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Yes, Birthe, but a visitor seeing the menubar in tiddlywiki.com won't 
> know they have to go to the advanced controls > plugins > get more plugins 
> > menubar plugin. They are just going to see the blue bar, think, That's 
> cool, and assume they can do a search to find out how to add it.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 1:10:55 PM UTC-6 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The Menu Bar plugin has a readme and a config tab.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 15.57.56 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
>>> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
>>> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
>>> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
>>> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bab7631d-7351-4929-bc5b-c0b584ebd1ecn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

The Menu Bar plugin has a readme and a config tab.

Birthe


lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 15.57.56 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Hi all
>
> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e949a8a3-ad19-457c-92d9-40505edc7ea0n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: TiddlyStretch: stretchtext in TiddlyWiki

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Thomas Elmiger created TextStretch 
 named so, due to Mats former 
creation - and later Strex for the ease og use.

lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 09.12.26 UTC+1 skrev Mat:

> One of my earlier plugins
>
> http://stretchtext.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> <:-)
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 4:52:57 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> I've been playing with Ted Nelson's stretchtext 
>>  idea lately. The gist is 
>> that you can expand and shrink text to a desired level of detail in place – 
>> so it's kind of a middle ground between linking and straight transclusion. 
>> In TW, I implement each fragment of stretchtext as a tiddler, where the 
>> *description* field contains a summary and the *text* field contains the 
>> full level of detail.
>>
>> You can easily expand on this in a couple ways – you can change the 
>> fields used, or you can instead render the tiddler through a pair of 
>> arbitrary templates, one for the summary and one for the expanded version. 
>> You can create multi-level stretchtext by using more stretchtext macros 
>> within the first level of tiddlers. I also have a *stretch-links* macro 
>> that works like *list-links*, but instead of just linking to relevant 
>> tiddlers, it makes them expandable within the current tiddler.
>>
>> Here's an example:
>>
>> [image: stretchtext-screenshot.png]
>> And a couple more examples in my Zettelkasten 
>> 
>>  (permaview).
>>
>> If this sounds interesting, check out the prototype TiddlyStretch plugin 
>> at https://sobjornstad.github.io/tiddlystretch/ and let me know what you 
>> think!
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6dd20603-28b7-41e4-9c16-042d8935n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.2.0

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Thank you, Mohammad,
Your plugin library works.

Birthe

fredag den 5. marts 2021 kl. 18.08.18 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:

> Birthe,
>
>  The kookma plugin library is up and working again! (Fri Mar 5th, 2021)
>  Please check your installation again and let me know if there is any 
> problem.
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 7:59 PM strikke...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Mohammad,
>> Dragging $:/config/KookmaPluginLibrary 
>> <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FKookmaPluginLibrary> 
>> into my wiki, empty, no plugins.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> fredag den 5. marts 2021 kl. 17.23.31 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:
>>
>>> Hi Damon,
>>>  Please let me know how you install the new version! is it through 
>>> Kookma library or by drag and drop?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:32 PM History Buff  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Mohammad,
>>>>
>>>> Great work on the pagination for dynamic tables! I love it. So far it 
>>>> works great, and I haven't found any issues.
>>>>
>>>> However, in the process of upgrading I noticed that your plugin library 
>>>> seems to be not working. All of my TW projects show that there are no 
>>>> plugins in the library and no upgrades available. Is it just me?
>>>>
>>>> Damon
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 2:06:23 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>>>
>>>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Code and demo
>>>>>
>>>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>>>
>>>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Revision 2.2.0
>>>>>
>>>>>- Date: [3rd Mar 2021]
>>>>>- [FIXED] updated to TW 5.1.23
>>>>>- [NEW] the new pagination feature for dynamic tables
>>>>>- [NEW] the tbl-clone special column is used by default in table 
>>>>>edit mode
>>>>>- [NEW] documentation for pagination was added
>>>>>- [NEW] details macro got new input parameters label, srcClass and 
>>>>>sumClass added and style and sum were dropped
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to see goodies like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- 
>>>>>https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs
>>>>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/87abd484-7f90-46c6-ad5c-27cbe153dce3n%40googlegroups.com
>>>>  
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/87abd484-7f90-46c6-ad5c-27cbe153dce3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d086d569-0f5d-43f8-ba96-8ea12c356c6an%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d086d569-0f5d-43f8-ba96-8ea12c356c6an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cd6c5b1c-fe49-4401-9078-cef401085557n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.2.0

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mohammad,
Dragging $:/config/KookmaPluginLibrary 
 
into my wiki, empty, no plugins.

Birthe

fredag den 5. marts 2021 kl. 17.23.31 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:

> Hi Damon,
>  Please let me know how you install the new version! is it through Kookma 
> library or by drag and drop?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:32 PM History Buff  wrote:
>
>> Hey Mohammad,
>>
>> Great work on the pagination for dynamic tables! I love it. So far it 
>> works great, and I haven't found any issues.
>>
>> However, in the process of upgrading I noticed that your plugin library 
>> seems to be not working. All of my TW projects show that there are no 
>> plugins in the library and no upgrades available. Is it just me?
>>
>> Damon
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 2:06:23 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like 
>>> alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>>
>>> Revision 2.2.0
>>>
>>>- Date: [3rd Mar 2021]
>>>- [FIXED] updated to TW 5.1.23
>>>- [NEW] the new pagination feature for dynamic tables
>>>- [NEW] the tbl-clone special column is used by default in table 
>>>edit mode
>>>- [NEW] documentation for pagination was added
>>>- [NEW] details macro got new input parameters label, srcClass and 
>>>sumClass added and style and sum were dropped
>>>
>>> Nice to see goodies like
>>>
>>>
>>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs
>>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/87abd484-7f90-46c6-ad5c-27cbe153dce3n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d086d569-0f5d-43f8-ba96-8ea12c356c6an%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: How to embed a tiddler(s) inside a gmail message

[strikke...@gmail.com]

TT,
Do you have any links for that - for the newbies and the sleepy old timers.

Birthe

fredag den 5. marts 2021 kl. 11.40.08 UTC+1 skrev TiddlyTweeter:

> Ciao Mat,
>
> Where have you been sleeping? It has been done already. 
> Your mate Jed did it. 
> Riz did it.
>
> MY point in this thread was really, COLLECTIVELY, we could much better 
> document how to email and social network post.
>
> But YOUR OP is about HTML/CSS inserts first. That is more tight.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> Euthymious wrote:
>>
>>> Should the next mission be sending mail from inside the TW?
>>
>>  
> Mat wrote: 
>
>> That would be cool. Sending off a tiddler. 
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/283c69b7-bf36-421a-a083-3ac33162cd12n%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Athens: a VC backed, open-source Roam competitor

[strikke...@gmail.com]

@Dave
I haven't seen anybody discussing the $ made from any of the companies 
using backlinks. Most here does not deny that backlinks are useful for some 
purposes. I think it is mostly the massive coverage of backlinks as the new 
and absolutely most important thing in note taking...that is discussed. The 
massive coverage of course has to do with budgets for advertising. The more 
it is advertised the more people will discuss the possibilities and use 
what is on offer.

Your Stroll opened my eyes for backlinks - that is to use them more. But 
still a person using TIddlywiki and loving it would hardly be envious of 
something else. Using a tiddlywiki with someone elses creation/creations, 
we are still able to add our own, when we want it, ask if we cannot quite 
do it on our own - and have a high chance of getting friendly help. That 
really beats them all for me.

I do love my local single file TW5, but I understand that cloud is popular 
and useful, and that has to be paid for naturally.

Birthe


torsdag den 4. marts 2021 kl. 14.28.52 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> This whole thread feels like people complaining that Roam, and now Athens, 
> are making $ from bi-directional links, and we aren't, even though 
> TiddlyWiki has had them all along, and then to throw the baby out with the 
> bathwater, they are dumping on bi-directional links themselves, as if they 
> were bad and useless. Even a hipster comment like "I was using backlinks 
> before they were cool" would be more mature than that. Sorry to step on any 
> toes, but that's the most obvious way to read most of the comments in this 
> thread.
>
> In my case, I use bi-directional links to move quickly between source 
> tiddlers, note tiddlers and topic tiddlers in my reading notes TWs. And 
> since I have new-here-with-backlink buttons that add some of that 
> automatically, it saves me a lot of time.  Very helpful. The way Roam used 
> bi-directional links opened my eyes to that possibility. I don't find the 
> visual graphs in Roam helpful, but many do, and Roam's bi-directional links 
> make them happen. And TW has the TiddlyMap that can do the same thing. So 
> that is another benefit.
>
> Let's get back to the positive...
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 3:25:58 PM UTC-6 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> A YC (venture capital firm) backed open-source Roam alternative launched 
>> today on HackerNews: 
>>
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26316793
>>
>> Some relevant parts of the announcement (my opinion only):
>>
>>
>>- Athens is an open-source and local-first alternative to Roam 
>>Research. Roam Research is a notetaking application, and *what they 
>>really got right was the "bidirectional link."*
>>- With bidirectional links, you never have to worry about where you 
>>write a note. Bidirectional links allow you to connect any two notes 
>>together, creating a knowledge graph. 
>>- This is why Athens is about more than just notetaking. *I believe 
>>networked applications with bidirectional links and data could become a 
>> new 
>>category itself.*
>>- Of course, this *bidirectional idea isn't new*. In fact, it goes as 
>>far back as the origin of the Web. It's the original concept of hypertext 
>>and Xanadu, which Ted Nelson has been advocating for decades. More 
>>recently, aspects of it were attempted by the Semantic Web. *Yet the 
>>adoption never really caught on, until perhaps now.*
>>- Something else that's interesting about the most powerful networked 
>>tools like Roam and Athens is t*hat you can't really make these apps 
>>with JavaScript or plaintext/markdown.* *For maximum power, you want 
>>a true graph database*. Both Roam and Athens leverage a front-end 
>>graph database called DataScript, which is written in Clojure(Script). 
>>JavaScript doesn't have a native analog, and Neo4j is only server-side. 
>> *This 
>>matters because I believe this is the first consumer use case for graph 
>>databases*. I believe both Roam and Athens are general-purpose 
>>platforms where individuals and organizations can centralize all of their 
>>knowledge and tasks. I believe the graph is the right data structure to 
>> do 
>>this with.
>>
>>
>> I find this fascination with bi-directional links without a huge mention 
>> of TW slightly frustrating. 
>>
>> Also, his point about a graph database is an interesting one to consider. 
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Diego
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5cc3e4cd-e44c-4a63-b9b6-95b45196cb75n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Two requests for Toggle!

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Maybe I should mention that I reused the buttons: $:/core/ui/Buttons/theme, 
$:/core/ui/Buttons/storyview and $:/core/ui/Buttons/palette for the 
aesthetics section. Now that we can do all the other stuff from the same 
place.

Birthe

onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 01.39.07 UTC+1 skrev strikke...@gmail.com:

> David,
> Even better - as I wrote I tried the long title earlier today. Now I found 
> that you have nailed that problem in your latest incarnation.
>
> Birthe
> onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 01.24.46 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>
>> Birthe, Could you include an image of what is happening when editing with 
>> a long title?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:21 PM strikke...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>> Earlier today I tried to edit a plugin tiddler with a rather long 
>>> title.. In fact the title nearly covered the tiddler controls. The problems 
>>> gets worse if the size is toggled (Bigger).
>>>
>>> I have tried to find out why the more drop-down behaves like you 
>>> describe. I have the tiddler controls vertical, and do not have that 
>>> problem in my copy of your wiki.
>>> Also I do not have the problem with long titles and editing in my copy 
>>> either. (The position of the tiddler controls is the only difference that I 
>>> am aware of.)
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>
>>> onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 00.59.43 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> There are still two nagging things I want fixed for my Toggle! plugin, 
>>>> but I don't know how to do either.
>>>>
>>>> 1. I made progress on adding the viewtoolbars even when there is no 
>>>> visible sidebar. Thanks to a suggestion from Birthe, I used the 
>>>> sidecontrols plugin and modified it in a number of ways. You can see the 
>>>> results here: https://giffmex.org/experiments/toggleplus.html
>>>>
>>>> However, if you click on the more menu of the top tiddler, you will see 
>>>> that the dropdown is in front of that tiddler, but behind the other 
>>>> tiddlers. I am wondering how I can fix that. Then the viewtoolbars part 
>>>> will be complete.
>>>>
>>>> 2. I have a section in the Toggle! tab: 
>>>>
>>>> *Gaps btwn tiddlers:* Thin ♦ Hide.  
>>>>
>>>> Both 'Thin' and 'Hide' are individual on/off buttons. But they create 
>>>> confusion, because if either one is on, the other can't be applied. If 
>>>> 'Thin' gaps is applied, you can't turn on 'Hide' gaps.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to have a chooser similar in look to the Fixed/fluid, with 
>>>> three options: default gap size between tiddlers, thin gap size between 
>>>> tiddlers, hide gaps between tiddlers. Default would remove the 
>>>> $:/tags/Stylesheet tag from the two stylesheets. Thin would add the tag to 
>>>> the thin stylesheet and remove it from hide stylesheet. Hide would add the 
>>>> tag to the hide stylesheet, and remove it from the thin stylesheet.
>>>>
>>>> Any love I can get on either of these will make me very grateful. This 
>>>> will make this plugin much better. Thanks in advance, Dave
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/0LCEaEbJKe4/unsubscribe.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a277e2bf-83a1-4252-bab6-4f5a56a8373cn%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a277e2bf-83a1-4252-bab6-4f5a56a8373cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>>> .
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/28a694e2-4394-4905-a352-8e7cbaaab10en%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Two requests for Toggle!

[strikke...@gmail.com]

David,
Even better - as I wrote I tried the long title earlier today. Now I found 
that you have nailed that problem in your latest incarnation.

Birthe
onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 01.24.46 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Birthe, Could you include an image of what is happening when editing with 
> a long title?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:21 PM strikke...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> Earlier today I tried to edit a plugin tiddler with a rather long title.. 
>> In fact the title nearly covered the tiddler controls. The problems gets 
>> worse if the size is toggled (Bigger).
>>
>> I have tried to find out why the more drop-down behaves like you 
>> describe. I have the tiddler controls vertical, and do not have that 
>> problem in my copy of your wiki.
>> Also I do not have the problem with long titles and editing in my copy 
>> either. (The position of the tiddler controls is the only difference that I 
>> am aware of.)
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 00.59.43 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> There are still two nagging things I want fixed for my Toggle! plugin, 
>>> but I don't know how to do either.
>>>
>>> 1. I made progress on adding the viewtoolbars even when there is no 
>>> visible sidebar. Thanks to a suggestion from Birthe, I used the 
>>> sidecontrols plugin and modified it in a number of ways. You can see the 
>>> results here: https://giffmex.org/experiments/toggleplus.html
>>>
>>> However, if you click on the more menu of the top tiddler, you will see 
>>> that the dropdown is in front of that tiddler, but behind the other 
>>> tiddlers. I am wondering how I can fix that. Then the viewtoolbars part 
>>> will be complete.
>>>
>>> 2. I have a section in the Toggle! tab: 
>>>
>>> *Gaps btwn tiddlers:* Thin ♦ Hide.  
>>>
>>> Both 'Thin' and 'Hide' are individual on/off buttons. But they create 
>>> confusion, because if either one is on, the other can't be applied. If 
>>> 'Thin' gaps is applied, you can't turn on 'Hide' gaps.
>>>
>>> I would like to have a chooser similar in look to the Fixed/fluid, with 
>>> three options: default gap size between tiddlers, thin gap size between 
>>> tiddlers, hide gaps between tiddlers. Default would remove the 
>>> $:/tags/Stylesheet tag from the two stylesheets. Thin would add the tag to 
>>> the thin stylesheet and remove it from hide stylesheet. Hide would add the 
>>> tag to the hide stylesheet, and remove it from the thin stylesheet.
>>>
>>> Any love I can get on either of these will make me very grateful. This 
>>> will make this plugin much better. Thanks in advance, Dave
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/0LCEaEbJKe4/unsubscribe.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a277e2bf-83a1-4252-bab6-4f5a56a8373cn%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a277e2bf-83a1-4252-bab6-4f5a56a8373cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/41090d12-a9c8-48a3-a381-f37d80d9d9abn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Two requests for Toggle!

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Dave,
Earlier today I tried to edit a plugin tiddler with a rather long title.. 
In fact the title nearly covered the tiddler controls. The problems gets 
worse if the size is toggled (Bigger).

I have tried to find out why the more drop-down behaves like you describe. 
I have the tiddler controls vertical, and do not have that problem in my 
copy of your wiki.
Also I do not have the problem with long titles and editing in my copy 
either. (The position of the tiddler controls is the only difference that I 
am aware of.)

Birthe


onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 00.59.43 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

>
> Hi everyone
>
> There are still two nagging things I want fixed for my Toggle! plugin, but 
> I don't know how to do either.
>
> 1. I made progress on adding the viewtoolbars even when there is no 
> visible sidebar. Thanks to a suggestion from Birthe, I used the 
> sidecontrols plugin and modified it in a number of ways. You can see the 
> results here: https://giffmex.org/experiments/toggleplus.html
>
> However, if you click on the more menu of the top tiddler, you will see 
> that the dropdown is in front of that tiddler, but behind the other 
> tiddlers. I am wondering how I can fix that. Then the viewtoolbars part 
> will be complete.
>
> 2. I have a section in the Toggle! tab: 
>
> *Gaps btwn tiddlers:* Thin ♦ Hide.  
>
> Both 'Thin' and 'Hide' are individual on/off buttons. But they create 
> confusion, because if either one is on, the other can't be applied. If 
> 'Thin' gaps is applied, you can't turn on 'Hide' gaps.
>
> I would like to have a chooser similar in look to the Fixed/fluid, with 
> three options: default gap size between tiddlers, thin gap size between 
> tiddlers, hide gaps between tiddlers. Default would remove the 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet tag from the two stylesheets. Thin would add the tag to 
> the thin stylesheet and remove it from hide stylesheet. Hide would add the 
> tag to the hide stylesheet, and remove it from the thin stylesheet.
>
> Any love I can get on either of these will make me very grateful. This 
> will make this plugin much better. Thanks in advance, Dave
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a277e2bf-83a1-4252-bab6-4f5a56a8373cn%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Fiddlywiki still around?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Are you asking about this 
https://way.net/FiddlyWiki/FiddlyWiki.html#CurrentVersion ?

if so it is rather old, but I do remember it.

Birthe

onsdag den 3. marts 2021 kl. 00.42.09 UTC+1 skrev ooc...@gmail.com:

> Is fiddlywiki still around? I logged onto the site and it seems 
> interesting albeit outdated I think. I wonder what makes it a writing wiki?
>
> OOC
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/502988f9-f6dc-4926-b4b0-a050e3393459n%40googlegroups.com.