[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jeremy Ruston]

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone next weekend.

There's a Trello board where we are discussing the agenda and 
practicalities:

https://trello.com/b/xdUi6JHg

If you're interested in coming along please join the board with the 
invitation link below and add your name to the attendee list:

https://trello.com/invite/b/xdUi6JHg/16d1aa2e456391c3d780dac993807f34/tweu-meetup-2017

(I don't know how long these links last, so let me know if the link doesn't 
work and I'll create an updated one)

Best wishes

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jed Carty]

I just got my travel sorted out for this. I should be arriving in Oxford 
around 4pm on Friday and my train back to London leaves at 4pm on Sunday. I 
was hoping to stay longer this time but I need to run back to Paris so I 
can immediately leave for Berlin.

I am currently working out some bugs in the robot but I think that they are 
all problems on the node side of things, the tiddlywiki side has gone 
surprisingly smoothly.

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Steven Schneider]

These are my times in Oxford:

Land in London at 3pm; train to Oxford (staying at AirBnB at 17 Weirs Ln, 
Oxford). So I should be there for dinner Friday.

And, I'll be hanging out in Oxford until Tuesday morning, before heading 
back to London for Web Archiving week  .

//steve.

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 1:12:58 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mat
>
> Great, let's aim to have dinner at the Jam Factory on the Friday evening. 
>> (We went there on the Sunday last year).
>>
>
> Jam Factory Friday dinner - excellent! Suggested time?
>
>
> I’ll probably be able to get there at about 7pm, but no reason for others 
> not to meet earlier if you can,
>
> These are my times in Oxford:
>
> Friday from ca 4pm - Sunday until ca 6 pm (early Sunday dinner, anybody? 
> ;-)
>
>
> Great, very pleased that you can make it,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

> Great, let's aim to have dinner at the Jam Factory on the Friday evening. (We 
> went there on the Sunday last year).
> 
> Jam Factory Friday dinner - excellent! Suggested time?

I’ll probably be able to get there at about 7pm, but no reason for others not 
to meet earlier if you can,

> These are my times in Oxford:
> 
> Friday from ca 4pm - Sunday until ca 6 pm (early Sunday dinner, anybody? ;-)

Great, very pleased that you can make it,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> <:-)
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Mat]

>
>
> Great, let's aim to have dinner at the Jam Factory on the Friday evening. 
> (We went there on the Sunday last year).
>

Jam Factory Friday dinner - excellent! Suggested time?


These are my times in Oxford:

Friday from ca 4pm - Sunday until ca 6 pm (early Sunday dinner, anybody? ;-)

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

> So excited about this. Is the location decided yet - or do we at least know 
> "for sure" that it is in the central parts? I'm asking because I need to make 
> a reservation for where to sleep and I want it to be as close by as possible. 
> What's a good "default address for reference" when looking for nearby 
> accommodation?

Great, really pleased that you are able to come. It's the same venue as last 
year; the address is on the website 
http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki-eu-meetup-2017/:
Oxford Centre for Innovation, New Road, Oxford, Oxfordshire, OX1 1BY

> BTW, I'm in Oxford between Friday before dinner and leaving Sunday late 
> afternoon. I hope more people come already on Friday so we can have a joint 
> kick-off dinner. 

Great, let's aim to have dinner at the Jam Factory on the Friday evening. (We 
went there on the Sunday last year).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> <:-)
> 
> 
> P.S Mario - sorry you can't make it this time. Hopefully next year!
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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Mat]

@Jeremy

So excited about this. Is the location decided yet - or do we at least know 
"for sure" that it is in the central parts? I'm asking because I need to 
make a reservation for where to sleep and I want it to be as close by as 
possible. What's a good "default address for reference" when looking for 
nearby accommodation?

BTW, I'm in Oxford between Friday before dinner and leaving Sunday late 
afternoon. I hope more people come already on Friday so we can have a joint 
kick-off dinner. 

<:-)


P.S Mario - sorry you can't make it this time. Hopefully next year!

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Mat]

*I'm starting to make real trip plans now!  :-D*

Any of you guys planning on staying after Sunday?


BTW, I signed up to give a presentation on "CSS for TW". Participation will 
be 100% voluntary  ;-)

I'd love to hear or see stuff from other participants too. Even without 
being the organizer of this in any way, I can say that it is a really 
relaxed gathering and all for good tiddly fun so no pressure. So just 
present or share anything.  ;-) ;-) 

Personally, I'd LOVE to see presentations on e.g

   - TW vs either (all) of Evernote/OneNote, WordPress, MediaWiki, or 
   other application platforms (bookauthoring, blogging, ...)
   - TW integration with other systems. API, front-end.
   - Node.js TW - what/why/how...
   - NoteSelf  - would be incredible if El 
   Señor Danielo could show up)
   - TWederation - hopefully Jed and I can do something if we get rolling 
   again, and hopefully Jeremy has something


IMO, the gathering is really a good opportunity to discuss weaknesses and 
potentials in TW.

AND... I really hope we can go to that wonderful tavern where Lewis Carroll 
wrote Alice in Wonderland! Mario has even promised he'll do some Austrian 
dinner-yodeling ! (Now IF he 
totally denies that he has promised this, it is only because he is such a 
shy guy so we must encourage him.)

And let us, from day one, have boxes with those amazing fruits and berries 
(those raspberries!) in the locale :-D


<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Elliott Stoneham]

I'm a complete novice with TiddlyWiki, but very interested in learning more 
about it.

I'm a freelance programmer (specialising in Go), but no JavaScript expert. 

My main interest would be to judge if I can use TidlyWiki as part of a 
future project to help those with Dyslexia.

Would the meeting be the right place for someone like me?

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Ed]

Huge Smile on my face!
All those happy faces!
Nah can't make it.
Out of dough
So no, unfortunately.
Cheers, Edm.
.
.

Op maandag 13 maart 2017 17:26:07 UTC+1 schreef Jeremy Ruston:
>
> The photo needs a caption, like who is who? Okay JR is in there and looks 
> a lot like his photo in his google groups tag/icon/thing.
>
>
> Apologies, from left to right we have:
>
> Dragon Cotterill
> Jed Carty
> Xavier Cazin
> Mario Pietsch
> Matias Goldman
> Jeremy Ruston
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> [image: IMG_0416.jpg]
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I'd happily do it if the cameraman had a live earpiece and was listening to 
my direction :-)

On Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:31:22 UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
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> Haha, now I can’t resist: Imagine Josiah in a remote studio clipping the 
> streams from all the Dragon-equipment following a trello timetable – that 
> must be worth an Oscar for multi-angle meetup-livestreams! 
>
> I'll try to watch and participate remotely if there is any bandwidth left 
> for me :–D 
>
> All the best! 
> Thomas 

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jed Carty]

I think that if Dragon has multiple computers he may be a better option 
since the old laptop I could bring is an old mac that barely works.

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Lost Admin]

I am old enough that I remember a class in university with an 
"experimental" set-up that became videoconferencing (Big TV/monitor, with 
camera at the ends of tables in different parts of the world).

Now we are doing it with Jed's old laptop and some spare parts that Jeremy 
has just lying around.


Someone mentioned having a robot that is controlled through a website built 
with TiddlyWiki. I wonder if there is time to enhance that to the point 
where it can be used as a shared tele-presence device and enable the remote 
people to move around?

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>
> Haha, now I can’t resist: Imagine Josiah in a remote studio clipping the 
> streams from all the Dragon-equipment following a trello timetable – that 
> must be worth an Oscar for multi-angle meetup-livestreams! 
>
> I'll try to watch and participate remotely if there is any bandwidth left 
> for me :–D 
>
> All the best! 
> Thomas 

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Thomas Elmiger]

Haha, now I can’t resist: Imagine Josiah in a remote studio clipping the 
streams from all the Dragon-equipment following a trello timetable – that must 
be worth an Oscar for multi-angle meetup-livestreams!

I'll try to watch and participate remotely if there is any bandwidth left for 
me :–D

All the best!
Thomas 

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[@TiddlyTweeter]

in short. the issue last time was as much bad cinematography as bandwidth?

no reason you ALSO have to be film geeks as well as TW ones. But I think 
its pause for thought.  

live interaction needs camera angles on something so sustained.

J, x 

On Tuesday, 21 March 2017 17:26:03 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I think the wifi was actually OK last time. I think we used my iPad 
> running the Google Hangouts app; one issue was positioning the camera so 
> that people could see anything interesting. This time, I’ve got a decent 
> quality USB HD webcam (including stereo mics), which hopefully we can plug 
> into Jed’s old laptop. A separate USB microphone might be handy too, I 
> shall try to get hold of one.
>
> Another issue may have been the way that we laid out the tables and chairs 
> in the room. We could explore positioning ourselves more for the cameras 
> benefit.
>
> Last year we used a Trello board to collaborate on the agenda:
>
> https://trello.com/b/zklZBbLS/tweu-meetup-2016
>
> It might be good for remote viewers if we focussed on some more structured 
> presentations.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 21 Mar 2017, at 16:12, Jed Carty  
> wrote:
>
> I think that the problem last time with the remote attendees was the wifi 
> where we were. There may have been a problem with not having a dedicated 
> computer to run the hangout, if that is the case I may be able to bring up 
> an old laptop that can be used as a dedicated streaming machine.
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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Dragon Cotterill]

On Tuesday, 21 March 2017 16:12:36 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I think that the problem last time with the remote attendees was the wifi 
> where we were. There may have been a problem with not having a dedicated 
> computer to run the hangout, if that is the case I may be able to bring up 
> an old laptop that can be used as a dedicated streaming machine.
>

Well I can bring along multiple computers (and Mobile devices - much to 
Jed's probably consternation!) so I can set up some dedicated streams if 
needs be.

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jeremy Ruston]

I think the wifi was actually OK last time. I think we used my iPad running the 
Google Hangouts app; one issue was positioning the camera so that people could 
see anything interesting. This time, I’ve got a decent quality USB HD webcam 
(including stereo mics), which hopefully we can plug into Jed’s old laptop. A 
separate USB microphone might be handy too, I shall try to get hold of one.

Another issue may have been the way that we laid out the tables and chairs in 
the room. We could explore positioning ourselves more for the cameras benefit.

Last year we used a Trello board to collaborate on the agenda:

https://trello.com/b/zklZBbLS/tweu-meetup-2016 


It might be good for remote viewers if we focussed on some more structured 
presentations.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 21 Mar 2017, at 16:12, Jed Carty  wrote:
> 
> I think that the problem last time with the remote attendees was the wifi 
> where we were. There may have been a problem with not having a dedicated 
> computer to run the hangout, if that is the case I may be able to bring up an 
> old laptop that can be used as a dedicated streaming machine.
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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jed Carty]

I think that the problem last time with the remote attendees was the wifi 
where we were. There may have been a problem with not having a dedicated 
computer to run the hangout, if that is the case I may be able to bring up 
an old laptop that can be used as a dedicated streaming machine.

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[@TiddlyTweeter]

can i virtually attend? (interactively)

last time the tech wasn't quite up to it.

i think it might be interesting if it were???

Josiah, x

On Friday, 24 February 2017 13:00:01 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to invite you to the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 
> Saturday 10th and Sunday 11th June 2017, in Oxford, UK.
>
> We had a similar event last year (see photo below and 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20European%20Meetup%202016). It was a 
> terrific opportunity to meet face-to-face and get to know one another. We 
> focussed on working together on twederation but broke out into many 
> interesting discussions and demonstrations. It was pretty good fun, and 
> hopefully we can learn from our previous experience and make the event this 
> year even better.
>
> Still to do:
>
> * Finalising the venue; I’m hoping to use the same place as last year
> * Although the event is free of charge, I’ll set up eventbrite (or 
> equivalent) so that people can register and I can have an idea of numbers
> * Planning the schedule. We might kick off with dinner on the evening of 
> Friday 9th.
>
> Please reply here if you’re interested in attending, or with any questions 
> or suggestions.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Atul Grover]

Hi All,

I couldn't make it last time but I do hope to make it for the meetup this 
time around.

Regards
Atul


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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Bo Du]

I have been using tiddlywiki since 2005, it makes my life much easier. I 
would like to come for the meet up if there is still any space. woule be a 
good fun.

On Friday, 24 February 2017 12:00:01 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to invite you to the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 
> Saturday 10th and Sunday 11th June 2017, in Oxford, UK.
>
> We had a similar event last year (see photo below and 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20European%20Meetup%202016). It was a 
> terrific opportunity to meet face-to-face and get to know one another. We 
> focussed on working together on twederation but broke out into many 
> interesting discussions and demonstrations. It was pretty good fun, and 
> hopefully we can learn from our previous experience and make the event this 
> year even better.
>
> Still to do:
>
> * Finalising the venue; I’m hoping to use the same place as last year
> * Although the event is free of charge, I’ll set up eventbrite (or 
> equivalent) so that people can register and I can have an idea of numbers
> * Planning the schedule. We might kick off with dinner on the evening of 
> Friday 9th.
>
> Please reply here if you’re interested in attending, or with any questions 
> or suggestions.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Dragon Cotterill]

>
> The photo needs a caption, like who is who? Okay JR is in there and looks 
> a lot like his photo in his google groups tag/icon/thing.
>

I the one grinning like an idiot with the Dropbox T-Shirt on. (Got it 
whilst attending the DropBox Hackathon in London a couple of years back. My 
entry was disqualified because it didn't use DropBox's API calls. It was a 
file based Chat system which used some of the functionality of TW to handle 
chats between shared folders.)
 

> I really doubt I can make it. Even if I could, I don't know what I could 
> contribute other than stupid questions and a round of drinks.
>

Well last time we ran some Youtube streams and hangouts to let people take 
part. I couldn't make the first day last time because it was a 
Friday/Saturday meetup. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Lost Admin]

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 12:17:04 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Los,
>
> On 13 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Lost Admin  
> wrote:
>
> Even if I could, I don't know what I could contribute other than stupid 
> questions and a round of drinks
>
>
> I’d heartily endorse the sentiment that there are no stupid questions :)
>
> More to the point, this is NOT a meetup just for the developers of 
> TiddlyWiki: the main goal is to get together to celebrate and share 
> experiences, thoughts and dreams about using TiddlyWiki, with the emphasis 
> on using and tinkering with it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
I am using TiddlyWiki. I do tinker with TiddlyWiki. I am not currently in a 
position to fly across an ocean. Although I do have a friend who lives in 
Exeter, so maybe some year I can plan a vacation at the appropriate time.


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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Los,

> On 13 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Lost Admin  wrote:
> 
> Even if I could, I don't know what I could contribute other than stupid 
> questions and a round of drinks

I’d heartily endorse the sentiment that there are no stupid questions :)

More to the point, this is NOT a meetup just for the developers of TiddlyWiki: 
the main goal is to get together to celebrate and share experiences, thoughts 
and dreams about using TiddlyWiki, with the emphasis on using and tinkering 
with it.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Lost Admin]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 7:00:01 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to invite you to the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 
> Saturday 10th and Sunday 11th June 2017, in Oxford, UK.
>
> We had a similar event last year (see photo below and 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20European%20Meetup%202016). It was a 
> terrific opportunity to meet face-to-face and get to know one another. We 
> focussed on working together on twederation but broke out into many 
> interesting discussions and demonstrations. It was pretty good fun, and 
> hopefully we can learn from our previous experience and make the event this 
> year even better.
>
> Still to do:
>
> * Finalising the venue; I’m hoping to use the same place as last year
> * Although the event is free of charge, I’ll set up eventbrite (or 
> equivalent) so that people can register and I can have an idea of numbers
> * Planning the schedule. We might kick off with dinner on the evening of 
> Friday 9th.
>
> Please reply here if you’re interested in attending, or with any questions 
> or suggestions.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
The photo needs a caption, like who is who? Okay JR is in there and looks a 
lot like his photo in his google groups tag/icon/thing.

I really doubt I can make it. Even if I could, I don't know what I could 
contribute other than stupid questions and a round of drinks.

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Sylvain Naudin]

Well, I hope I'll be free this time :)

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Jed Carty]

I should be there, this time with more than just a tablet to work on.

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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Mat]

Cool! I had a great time last year so hope to attend again and to see both 
familiar and new faces!!

<:-)



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[tw] Re: Announcing the 2nd TiddlyWiki European Meetup on 10th & 11th June 2017

[Dragon Cotterill]

Awesome. Hope to attend again. Even if I am a TWC advocate rather than a 
TW5 one. :)

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