[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
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[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
Heath, I will need a little time to fully wrap my head around what you are asking and how to implement it in TiddlyWiki. Unfortunately it does not yet make sense to me (perhaps my own limitation) Here are some items that may clarify enough for you to find an answer. Rather than say "Subdocuments DOC_A_A, DOC_A_B, both of which should inherit the tags from DOC_A," I would say "Subdocuments DOC_A_A, DOC_A_B, both of which should be tagged with the tiddler name DOC_A" To me a TableOfContents is effectively a hierarchy of tags, Not a list of tiddlers tagged with a particular tag. SubTiddlers are tagged with their parent. So the parent recognises its children. However you can have additional parents naming the same children and additional lists or hierarchies due to a tag. The TOC macro is special in so far as it builds a tree starting at a root tiddler. However its quite easy to simultaneously tag a group of tiddlers with another tag to create a list. This organises you notes at a document level DOC DOC_A DOC_A_A + TAG_1 DOC_A_B +TAG_1 DOC_B + TAG_1 DOC_C A TOC on DOC_A with give you all its subordinates A TOC on DOC with give you all its subordinates (all Documents) What is TAG_A ? Lets use a new Tag TAG_1 So using this New TAG_1 it will list TAG_1 DOC_A_A DOC_A_B DOC_B If you get creative you can create a TOC of All Documents but only those tagged TAG_1 Best Wishes Tony On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 12:42:24 AM UTC+10, Heath Gordon wrote: > > Hey Tony, > > Yeah I'm getting used to Tiddlywiki. It's pretty cool, but in no way > intuitive. > > Okay so here's kind of what I was thinking. For the sake of example we > have 3 documents, DOC_A and DOC_B are semantically similar let's say TAG_A, > DOC_C has TAG_C. > > DOC_A is made of two subdocuments DOC_A_A, DOC_A_B, both of which should > inherit the tags from DOC_A, but as I implied, I don't really want them to > appear at the same level on the TOC. > > CONTENTS > TAG_A > DOC_A > DOC_B > TAG_C > DOC_C > > Were I to go to the twiddle for TAG_A, I would like to see DOC_A_A and > DOC_A_B and DOC_B_*. This is kind of how I've been taking notes (index > cards (DOC_A_*) of the important points that point to a source (DOC_A), > which I like to group semantically. So I'd like to be able to organize my > notes: at a document level and then at a semantic level. > > Hope that makes sense, > Heath > > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 2:13:11 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote: >> >> Heath, >> >> Have a look at the TOC TableOfContent Macros for insight to tag >> hierarchies. >> >> You can change the "root Tiddler(tag)" and using new tiddler here is a >> quick and easy way to construct a hierarchy. >> >> A Lot of work has being done here so we can help you once you build a >> little more knowledge of TiddlyWiki. >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> >> On Thursday, 17 May 2018 07:38:20 UTC+10, Heath Gordon wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I"m reconsidering this, but the idea was to have a tiered tag >>> system. As in, if I had a Document, which was made up of the some >>> sub-documents, which at the very least have the same tags as the parent >>> document, I would only ever want to compare documents with documents and >>> subdocuments with subdocuments. I hope that makes sense. And one way I >>> thought about that was by having an uppercase and lowercase way of working >>> with it. But I don't think that's going to work. >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:27:26 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote: Hi, I don't understand, why you want to change the tags to lowercase. In TW tags are case sensitive. ... So you loose context if you change it that way. Can you explain your usecase a bit closer? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5741d784-1b2b-45b6-b590-0bce6b343c16%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
Hey Tony, Yeah I'm getting used to Tiddlywiki. It's pretty cool, but in no way intuitive. Okay so here's kind of what I was thinking. For the sake of example we have 3 documents, DOC_A and DOC_B are semantically similar let's say TAG_A, DOC_C has TAG_C. DOC_A is made of two subdocuments DOC_A_A, DOC_A_B, both of which should inherit the tags from DOC_A, but as I implied, I don't really want them to appear at the same level on the TOC. CONTENTS TAG_A DOC_A DOC_B TAG_C DOC_C Were I to go to the twiddle for TAG_A, I would like to see DOC_A_A and DOC_A_B and DOC_B_*. This is kind of how I've been taking notes (index cards (DOC_A_*) of the important points that point to a source (DOC_A), which I like to group semantically. So I'd like to be able to organize my notes: at a document level and then at a semantic level. Hope that makes sense, Heath On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 2:13:11 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote: > > Heath, > > Have a look at the TOC TableOfContent Macros for insight to tag > hierarchies. > > You can change the "root Tiddler(tag)" and using new tiddler here is a > quick and easy way to construct a hierarchy. > > A Lot of work has being done here so we can help you once you build a > little more knowledge of TiddlyWiki. > > Regards > Tony > > > On Thursday, 17 May 2018 07:38:20 UTC+10, Heath Gordon wrote: >> >> Yeah I"m reconsidering this, but the idea was to have a tiered tag >> system. As in, if I had a Document, which was made up of the some >> sub-documents, which at the very least have the same tags as the parent >> document, I would only ever want to compare documents with documents and >> subdocuments with subdocuments. I hope that makes sense. And one way I >> thought about that was by having an uppercase and lowercase way of working >> with it. But I don't think that's going to work. >> >> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:27:26 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't understand, why you want to change the tags to lowercase. In TW >>> tags are case sensitive. ... So you loose context if you change it that >>> way. >>> >>> Can you explain your usecase a bit closer? >>> >>> -m >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fe31198f-26c8-4c4a-9e7c-d53e54b61b61%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
Heath, Have a look at the TOC TableOfContent Macros for insight to tag hierarchies. You can change the "root Tiddler(tag)" and using new tiddler here is a quick and easy way to construct a hierarchy. A Lot of work has being done here so we can help you once you build a little more knowledge of TiddlyWiki. Regards Tony On Thursday, 17 May 2018 07:38:20 UTC+10, Heath Gordon wrote: > > Yeah I"m reconsidering this, but the idea was to have a tiered tag system. > As in, if I had a Document, which was made up of the some sub-documents, > which at the very least have the same tags as the parent document, I would > only ever want to compare documents with documents and subdocuments with > subdocuments. I hope that makes sense. And one way I thought about that was > by having an uppercase and lowercase way of working with it. But I don't > think that's going to work. > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:27:26 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't understand, why you want to change the tags to lowercase. In TW >> tags are case sensitive. ... So you loose context if you change it that >> way. >> >> Can you explain your usecase a bit closer? >> >> -m >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ee5d1f79-68ff-4e95-88c2-a49ccb8ab6ba%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
Yeah I"m reconsidering this, but the idea was to have a tiered tag system. As in, if I had a Document, which was made up of the same sub-documents, I would at a certain point only ever want to compare documents with documents and subdocuments with subdocuments. I hope that makes sense. And one way I thought about that was by having an uppercase and lowercase way of working with it. But I don't think that's going to work. On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:27:26 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't understand, why you want to change the tags to lowercase. In TW > tags are case sensitive. ... So you loose context if you change it that > way. > > Can you explain your usecase a bit closer? > > -m > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b6ea2a81-c19a-4cfe-92d3-43c2a8713a01%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
Hi, I don't understand, why you want to change the tags to lowercase. In TW tags are case sensitive. ... So you loose context if you change it that way. Can you explain your usecase a bit closer? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cf76c500-555b-4b27-9f6d-6df498842704%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: New Tiddle has Tags as the Tiddle that created it, but lowercase?
AFAIK, there's no filter operator for changing case. But if you add a field
to a tiddler, the field name is always converted to lowercase.
So I can think of a trick that might require more than one click. Make
a button that grabs the tag list, splits it into individual tiddlers, and
then adds fields with a tag- prefix like tag-Tag1, tag-Tag2. Those fields
will then have names like tag-tag1, tag-tag2 (i.e. they are lowercase) Then
collect those new fields (using the prefix tag- to find them), remove the
tag-prefix, and put the results in a tag-case field. Then use the results
to create your tiddler.
-- Mark
On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 1:32:18 PM UTC-7, Heath Gordon wrote:
>
> So let's say that I have a tiddler, and then a button that creates a new
> tiddler. Right now I get how to do it so it copies the tags from the parent
> twiddler to the child twiddler:
>
> <$button >
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler"
> title="Title"
> tags={{!!tags}}
> />
> New
>
>
> But then is there a way to lowercase those tags? It's complicated, but I
> want to kind of have a tiered system of tags. I feel like there's probably
> a java-scripty way to do this, but I don't really know javascript.
>
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