[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-23 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
I think it is due to you writing just before the post from JWH. Something seems to happen in the transfer. Now we really need a bug emoji added to the selection over therel On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 9:31:04 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > Here's something that is very concerning. > > Look at

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-23 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Here's something that is very concerning. Look at this thread on Discourse. At least two of the posts marked as coming from me (_Mark_S_via_TiddlyWi ) are actually from JWH . That's a pretty frustrating bug. On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Hi, JWH — I think the confusion is that there are two types of Discourse boards: 1. those hosted on Discourse.com, where someone pays to maintain an account and use their server's shared resources 2. those hosted privately on your own server/domain name, where the webmaster or dev

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
It is far easier. Follow the link to https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ that is where you are to sign up. When signing up, you will be asked some questions - answer them it is a kind of tutorial . Take you time looking around and get to know the new forum. You are absolutely not the only forum

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread 'JWHoneycutt' via TiddlyWiki
Answers (I think) for true forum newbies... Sign up for Discourse Then use this link - which apparently is on Discourse (but can't be found from Discourse): https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ "https://talk.X.org; is a Discourse link - maybe they all are? I apologize for the super basic stuff I

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
Some you will find here at GG as usual and some have moved to https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 1:15:02 PM UTC+2 JWHoneycutt wrote: > Looks like there’s a Google Group. Perhaps you could ask there if they > have set up a Discourse instance (this is not it) and it’s

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread 'JWHoneycutt' via TiddlyWiki
Looks like there’s a Google Group. Perhaps you could ask there if they have set up a Discourse instance (this is not it) and it’s address. https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 7:03:19 AM UTC-4 JWHoneycutt wrote: > Completely unfamiliar with Discourse. I did

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-22 Thread 'JWHoneycutt' via TiddlyWiki
Completely unfamiliar with Discourse. I did sign up. I am unable to find any of you on there, and i am sure i am not the only one who does not know how to navigate on Discourse yet. BTW, I assume it is not the same thing as Discord - right? JWH On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:04:59 AM UTC-4

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
So it turns out you don't need Enterprise to have 1000 members. You can get premium, and then pay the 4c per user additional fee. So that makes the yearly cost $440. Not that I'm promoting it, necessarily. My main point is that most of the prior conversations assumed zero cost forum solutions.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread PMario
On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:53:40 AM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services you > expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars. ah. ok > But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when I > signed up. At

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Answering some of my own questions: Is there a good central thread for discussing the move to Discourse that > I've missed out on? I did a quick search, and it seems to come up in > different threads, but I didn't see a pinned topic or thread that serves as > a hub for the conversation.

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services you expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars. But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when I signed up. At the time there was no user-count limit for the basic group. Hopefully they won't

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote: > This Group here has more than 1000 users and the goal of the new platform > is to increase the number of users. ... So please compare apples with > apples! > Hoping that no user of GG will be lost and a lot of more users will be

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread PMario
On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:13:18 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: I have a forum with groups.io. After the initial transfer fee it has been > free. It includes mail services. It works just like you would expect a > forum to work. I can't help but feel that people jumped on Discourse > because

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Is there a good central thread for discussing the move to Discourse that I've missed out on? I did a quick search, and it seems to come up in different threads, but I didn't see a pinned topic or thread that serves as a hub for the conversation. Mark S. asked a couple of good questions: >

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Why are you assuming that GG won't be here in 2 or 3 years? Are you willing to pay $5 per month just to have a different forum, that may not actually be significantly better than what we have now? I have a forum with groups.io. After the initial transfer fee it has been free. It includes mail

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
Mark, we do not know if GG exist i 2 or 3 years - we do not even know how many would be left to return to GG or go to somewhere else. If the move is a success - and everybody or most people move and like it. Success. If a lot of people are lost in the moving and too many gradually leave - not

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread clutterstack
Mark, I do hope the search will be better -- it's hard to tell right now because there's not much on there. I hate to say "it would be hard to make it worse than GG search..." ;) Paying for Discourse feels less sustainable somehow, but I think there's a core of contributors who are making a

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
So mostly it's the meta issues that concern me. First, someone is paying for Discourse, right? It's not free like GG. Is that sustainable, or will we back at GG in 2 or 3 years? Second, is the search better on Discourse? Because that was the main concern about GG -- things become lost in the

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread clutterstack
Josiah, when you say newbies, do you mean TiddlyWiki newbies, or Discourse newbies? If TiddlyWiki, then perhaps there are ways we can organise categories or something to make it easier to know where to post the occasional question? If Discourse, I'm not sure...having experience reading and

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Folks, Personally I have used many kinds of forums and conversational systems and the good ones have a number of features that you find are needed and help both with communications and adoption. Discourse has many if not all these features, and sure they may be implemented differently in

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
I signed up a few days ago and have looked around to get to know it - and hopefully find something I liked about it. In between looking around and reading- I started up a few "comfort" tiddlywikis. It looks rather complicated to me. Time will hopefully help. A lot of users over quite some time