[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-29 Thread TonyM
To Illustrate "my insistence it is easy to build an Edition" Here is One I Created Just now Prepared CodeMirror Edition See inside for - Some easter eggs I have not had time to Publish. - The way I am publishing it tho

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Tony K
There are quite a few of these Stroll : https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html Drift : https://akhater.github.io/drift TiddlyRoam: https://joekroese.github.io/tiddlyroam/ and many more On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 8:11:39 PM UTC+3, Soren Bjornstad wrote: > > How about creating a second officia

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Birthe C
TonyM, I fully understand what you are writing. The above link is from a discussion about 1½ month old, started by Diego Mesa wanting an edition, that feel finished like Roam. I always thought that was the reason for not many editions on tiddlywiki.com, but lots of adaptations around the inter

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread TonyM
Birthe, That discussion seemed older. The advantage of an edition is whatever the version the wiki, plugins and third party additions. they work together and are tested to do so. Upgrade at your own peril. Recent examples of not yet formalised editions would be Davids "stroll". Regards Tony

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Birthe C
TonyM, https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/LdeTPT33J3M/CrAQ_KNmAAAJ for the last discussion. Birthe fredag den 29. maj 2020 kl. 01.43.31 UTC+2 skrev TonyM: >> >> Birthe, >> >> I would be surprised at that, an edition is the only way to pack a >> melange of components for a "finished s

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Birthe C
TonyM, The discussion was about an edition that could be downloaded from tiddlywiki.com. The explanation I remember from earlier discussions was, that it was difficult to make sure, that 3 party plugins got updated. Birthe fredag den 29. maj 2020 kl. 01.43.31 UTC+2 skrev TonyM: > > Birthe, > >

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread TonyM
Birthe, I would be surprised at that, an edition is the only way to pack a melange of components for a "finished solution". If so it is only a convention to be broken. Regards Tony On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 3:25:29 AM UTC+10, Birthe C wrote: > > I think I remember that editions are not suppos

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread TonyM
Soren, I have said this a number of times, I call it the "Standard Edition". I also built a learning edition, based on all tiddlywiki.com with additional note taking facilities. Always having an Empty.html is a good design approach, the minimal version. It is not suitable for new users transit

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Birthe C
I think I remember that editions are not supposed to use 3 party plugins. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegro

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Soren Bjornstad
How about creating a second official edition that consists of the core bundled with a plugin or three designed to make TiddlyWiki simpler for beginners? This edition could be presented as the default when downloading TiddlyWiki, with a smaller option to download empty.html for people who alread

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread SizzlinSJ
I actually don't disagree with you fully but how i see TW is like a* blank paper*. A Piece of paper can be used to write, make to todo list, draw on it, fold it like in origami. What one does is experiments, draw lines on it as instructions for other people and makes a origami paper. Here origam

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread OGNSYA
Diego: Fully agree. Keep TW as it is - highly customizable. But allow casual users to get a much more straightforward out-of-the-box experience. About Obsidian: Seems interesting. But one thing that I really can't get behind is the edit window separate from the preview one. I know it's very popu

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Diego Mesa
I'm in strong (but always respectful) disagreement with some of these thoughts. There is much momentum building on the concept of *bidirectional linking*. This is literally TW bread and butter... The flow of conversation around this topic is often like this: - Statement: "TW is hard for n

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Hubert
I'm not sure if it's fair to compare TW with all these tools. What exactly is lost if TW does not immediately appeal to a broad audience? TiddlyWiki is like a programming language, so some learning curve is part of the experience. We can do amazing things with TW, both functionally and aestheti

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Reet Pandher
Is felix hiyashi in this group? On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 5:07:18 PM UTC+5:30, Tony K wrote: > > I do use Obsidian and it is great > > however give me a faster version of TiddlyMap and I wld be happy, vis.js > is very slow > > > > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 6:48:34 PM UTC+3, Diego Mesa wrot

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Tony K
I do use Obsidian and it is great however give me a faster version of TiddlyMap and I wld be happy, vis.js is very slow On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 6:48:34 PM UTC+3, Diego Mesa wrote: > > Yet another Roam competitor, Obsidian: "Obsidian is a powerful knowledge > base that works on top of a

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Ste Wilson
Also from the comments this person linked to their getting tiddlywiki started tutorial. https://lesser.occult.institute/an-opinionated-approach-to-tiddlywiki -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread TonyM
Yes Almost everything is possible in tiddlywiki and a lot more. An elegant focused solution us nice, but then you could make your own edition. Cloud services are often better thought. Regards Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-28 Thread Reet Pandher
Well until it gets a web version or an android app i don't think it competes with TW. Plus strollwiki with Tiddlymap is a pretty fantastic combo i'd say. IMO the biggest problem why TW doesn't immediately appeal to the broader audience is the difficulty of theme customization. And even when you

[tw5] Re: Obsidian - Roam competitor

2020-05-27 Thread Diego Mesa
I recommend searching the comments thread for "Tiddlywiki". One comment: "Obsidian is crazy good for how new it is. And the team is moving extremely fast. It seems like they really know what they want out of this product. I've tried dozens of knowledge management tools and settled on TiddlyWiki