[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-08-03 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Anyone interested in the difference on "$:/temp" deletion between single file TW and the server version could be helped by this GitHub comment by PMario ... https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3375#issuecomment-410214455. What came out for me in this whole discussion was NOT there

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-08-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark S. I been playing with this. Create Tiddler: $:/temp/mark-test ... ... on Single File TW in normal browser & in TiddlyDesktop PERSISTS between sessions. Under node & Bob exactly the same gets deleted inter-session. I made an issue on GitHub here:

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark. Interesting. On singular TW I didn't see that. On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 02:41:21 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > > > There is no bug. "$:/temp" can be created and it is not deleted on save as >> actually nothing stops that. >> >> >> > I'm not sure what you're saying. My test of $:/temp...

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
There is no bug. "$:/temp" can be created and it is not deleted on save as > actually nothing stops that. > > > I'm not sure what you're saying. My test of $:/temp... under tiddly server seems to suggest that $:/temp files get deleted. -- Mark -- You received this message because you are

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread barrowgloom
Understood, no problem : ) I like your definition for Temp files. Another thing I noticed in Temp was saved selected entries for the vertical tabbed ToC's which was something I was investigating cause I have several of those ToC's and the saved selection from one will carry over to the

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
There isn't one. It was a miss-match between previous posts. I thought there should be one because of what someone else posted because it didn't work as suggested it should. Later it turned out not to be working that way anyway. There is no bug. "$:/temp" can be created and it is not deleted

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread FrD
Hi, Well the code in $:/core/save/all is very short : \define saveTiddlerFilter() [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]] -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[sort[title]] $(publishFilter)$

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thanks FrD Very quickly helpful. My upshot is fiddling with $:/core/save/all is a non-starter :-) Way too complex for me. What it looks like is as I thought. That "$:/temp/" persist like any other Tiddler between reloads. There is no

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thanks FrD I do think its useful to know a bit more about these things. I find it interesting, to get it a bit more out of the obscure. Any tips, very welcome. Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 30 July 2018 15:24:24 UTC+2, FrD wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry I made a mistake. This filter is only for

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread FrD
Hi, If you read untill the end (SavingMechanism) you'll see you have to assign a template to the tm-save-wiki message. You assign the new template's name to the SaveWikiButtonTemplate Template As for the template, have a

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread FrD
Hi, Sorry I made a mistake. This filter is only for specifying the tiddlers triggering the dirty state. I'll investigate. Regards FrD Le lundi 30 juillet 2018 14:45:03 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter a écrit : > > FrD, > > Playing with this. I does NOT seem to work in the latest TW?? > > BEFORE I

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
FrD, Playing with this. I does NOT seem to work in the latest TW?? BEFORE I report it as a bug could someone else please check I have my brain correct? [all[]] -$:/HistoryList -$:/ StoryList -$:/Import

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thanks TonyM I think this kind of general overview is useful. I emphasised your headings to make the main ones clearer. After prodding around I'd now add ... Info tiddlers ... to the "Conventions". These REGISTER the DISCOVERED STATE of the RUN environment. Discernable from ...

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
FrD Thanks. That is useful to know! Best wishes Josiah FrD wrote: > > Take a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#SavingMechanism . You'll see > that the the saver mechanism uses the filter defined in > $:/config/SaverFilter. > > If you

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread FrD
Hi, Take a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#SavingMechanism . You'll see that the the saver mechanism uses the filter defined in $:/config/SaverFilter. If you look at this tiddler you can see it excludes $:/temp tiddlers. You can modify

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
barro... & Mark S. Regarding ... $:/temp/etc ... FYI. As far as I can see they persist unless you explicitly delete them. I think that maybe it looks like they are auto-deleted because the particular routines involved in creating them are also deleting them? I'm still abit unclear ... But,

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-29 Thread TonyM
As mark said these are conventions but in some ways they flow logically, here is my view Any $:/ is a "system tiddler which stays out of regular search results State tiddlers - setting some value during a particular operation such as selection. If done again are often rewritten, however they

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-29 Thread barrowgloom
hello, >From what I noticed, some of the temp tiddlers are saved and not deleted. The 2 I know that remain are "Search" and "Advanced Search" which appear to hold last entered search term. I don't know if they have any purpose other than holding the term bu I know if I save with a search

[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

2018-07-28 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I could be wrong, but I think only $:/temp actually does anything (gets deleted on TW close -- or maybe re-open). The rest are convention. When I first started with TW5, I found the $:/ format confusing and off-putting. They look a lot like directory structures. They look a lot like variables.