Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Eskha]

Hi David,

For a similar use case I have use buttons:
* One to modify the tags of sidebar related core tiddlers
* One to restore their original value (by deleting the modified shadows 
tiddler)

Below is the tiddler I have created for that purpose.
Hope it may be of some help to you or anyone else.

Best regards,

Eskha


\define sb(name) $:/core/ui/SideBar/$name$
\define msb(name) $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/$name$
\define remove() +[!prefix[$:/]] $:/tags/UnusedSideBar 
$:/tags/ModifiedCoreSideBar
\define move-to(to) +[!prefix[$:/]] $:/tags/$to$SideBar 
$:/tags/ModifiedCoreSideBar

You can modify core Side Bar elements from here  or restore them to default 
value.

! Installation

//The following action will modify core elements.//

<$button>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>

Remove or move Core Side Bar elements
 

Currently removed or moved Core Side Bar elements:

<<<

<$list filter="[tag[$:/tags/ModifiedCoreSideBar]sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate"/>

<<<


! Restore default core elements

The following action is used to restore core elements. (This may be useful 
before upgrading.)

<$button>
<$list filter="[tag[$:/tags/ModifiedCoreSideBar]]">
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<>/>


Restore Core Side Bar elements


 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mohammad, looks great! I was debating on this, but I think I am
going to go with it. I will work this into my system today or tomorrow. Got
a lot going on this week and next. I started this project this weekend with
free time and it kind of snowballed!

Thank you again!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:38 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> Dave,
>  I changed topmenu to include tabs! Attached are the three tiddlers plus
> some of intact stylesteets!
>
>  Drag and drop into https://tiddlywiki.com/
> to see how it works
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:33 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Ah, gotcha. Sounds like a good idea. I will get to that soon. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 2:01:48 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 @Mohammad

 1. Looks nice with centralized! But the sidebar gets pretty squished.

 2. Intrigued. By 'one window', what do you mean? Are you saying you did
 this? If so, Hulk want screenshot.

>>>
>>> No I did not myself! I mean you can have one button to open one local
>>> window having two tabs: a tab for  tiddler settings and one tab for sidebar
>>> settings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 10:14:12 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)
>
> 1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from
> https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
> 2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one
> from tiddler
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford 
> wrote:
>
>> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot
>> different.
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2
>>> )
>>> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with 
>>> the
>>> comptext plugin.
>>>
>>> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext,
>>> although I am not familiar with it.
>>>
>>> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the
>>> core, with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses.
>>> Another place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make
>>> it simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) 
>>> and
>>> I haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple
>>> of tutorials
>>> 
>>> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a
>>> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show 
>>> how to
>>> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of
>>> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input 
>>> macro),
>>> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Dave
 You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the
 toggle buttons


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
 mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave
>
>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar
>is. But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the 
> right.
>
> Why not use a page control button?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford 
> wrote:
>
>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual
>> checkboxes, it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way 
>> it will
>> be easier for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and 
>> custom
>> tab groups.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford
>> wrote:

Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

Hi Eskha

There are some added manually, but the "Alternate sidebar tabs" are not
manual, at least they have not been since some point on Saturday. You can
add your own with the tag $:/giffmex/sidebarsegments.

Also, yesterday I made the Backlink options function the same way. Tag:
$:/giffmex/backlinks

What I do have manual that could be frustrating is that in the tabs of, for
example, Setup, I list them manually, because if I do it tag-based, then
when TW updates, the tags will be removed from the core tiddlers, leading
to confusion. I do intend to add to this so users can add custom tabs via
tags to tab groups that also have core tiddlers. But I am not there yet.

Also, I am hoping that when I am done, the elements visible in the sidebar
will be draggable so the user can rearrange them.

Thanks for your input!




On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 4:23 AM Eskha  wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> Really useful and easy to access and use in order to customise what is
> displayed.
>
> One remark: elements you can display or hide are manually listed in your
> tool.
> This has the drawback that if we have in our TW additional templates,
> sidebar elements, ... there are not listed in the tool and also need to be
> manually added.
> Could you automatically list them?
>
> If I take the example of sidebar elements.
> One option to do so could be to populate the list with elements tagged
> "$:/tags/SideBarSegment" and let's say "$:/tags/SideBarSegment/Optional".
> When an item is checked (to be displayed) tag it only with
> "$:/tags/SideBarSegment", when an item is unchecked (hidden) tag it with
> ""$:/tags/SideBarSegment/Optional" only.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eskha
>
>
> Le samedi 6 mars 2021 à 19:26:08 UTC+1, David Gifford a écrit :
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at
>> that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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[tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Eskha]

Hello David,

Really useful and easy to access and use in order to customise what is 
displayed.

One remark: elements you can display or hide are manually listed in your 
tool.
This has the drawback that if we have in our TW additional templates, 
sidebar elements, ... there are not listed in the tool and also need to be 
manually added.
Could you automatically list them?

If I take the example of sidebar elements.
One option to do so could be to populate the list with elements tagged 
"$:/tags/SideBarSegment" and let's say "$:/tags/SideBarSegment/Optional".
When an item is checked (to be displayed) tag it only with 
"$:/tags/SideBarSegment", when an item is unchecked (hidden) tag it with 
""$:/tags/SideBarSegment/Optional" only.

Best regards,

Eskha


Le samedi 6 mars 2021 à 19:26:08 UTC+1, David Gifford a écrit :

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at 
> that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Dave,
 I changed topmenu to include tabs! Attached are the three tiddlers plus
some of intact stylesteets!

 Drag and drop into https://tiddlywiki.com/
to see how it works



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:33 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Ah, gotcha. Sounds like a good idea. I will get to that soon. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 2:01:48 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> @Mohammad
>>>
>>> 1. Looks nice with centralized! But the sidebar gets pretty squished.
>>>
>>> 2. Intrigued. By 'one window', what do you mean? Are you saying you did
>>> this? If so, Hulk want screenshot.
>>>
>>
>> No I did not myself! I mean you can have one button to open one local
>> window having two tabs: a tab for  tiddler settings and one tab for sidebar
>> settings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 10:14:12 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Dave,

 Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)

 1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from
 https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
 2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one
 from tiddler

 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot
> different. https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2
>> )
>> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with 
>> the
>> comptext plugin.
>>
>> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext,
>> although I am not familiar with it.
>>
>> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the
>> core, with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses.
>> Another place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown
>> 
>> .
>>
>> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make
>> it simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) 
>> and
>> I haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of
>> tutorials
>> 
>> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a
>> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how 
>> to
>> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of
>> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input 
>> macro),
>> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the
>>> toggle buttons
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
>>> mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dave

1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar
is. But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the 
 right.

 Why not use a page control button?



 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford 
 wrote:

> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual
> checkboxes, it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way 
> it will
> be easier for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and 
> custom
> tab groups.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below.
>> Explanation is at that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

Ah, gotcha. Sounds like a good idea. I will get to that soon. Thanks!

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 2:01:48 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> @Mohammad
>>
>> 1. Looks nice with centralized! But the sidebar gets pretty squished.
>>
>> 2. Intrigued. By 'one window', what do you mean? Are you saying you did 
>> this? If so, Hulk want screenshot.
>>
>
> No I did not myself! I mean you can have one button to open one local 
> window having two tabs: a tab for  tiddler settings and one tab for sidebar 
> settings
>
>
>  
>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 10:14:12 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)
>>>
>>> 1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
>>> 2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one from 
>>> tiddler
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different. 
 https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
> )
>  
> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with 
> the 
> comptext plugin.
>
> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although 
> I am not familiar with it. 
>
> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, 
> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another 
> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 
> 
> .
>
> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of 
> tutorials 
> 
>  
> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how 
> to 
> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input 
> macro), 
> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Dave
>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the 
>> toggle buttons
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
>> mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar 
>>>is. But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the 
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Why not use a page control button?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual 
 checkboxes, it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it 
 will 
 be easier for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and 
 custom 
 tab groups.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. 
> Explanation is at that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> @Mohammad
>
> 1. Looks nice with centralized! But the sidebar gets pretty squished.
>
> 2. Intrigued. By 'one window', what do you mean? Are you saying you did
> this? If so, Hulk want screenshot.
>

No I did not myself! I mean you can have one button to open one local
window having two tabs: a tab for  tiddler settings and one tab for sidebar
settings




> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 10:14:12 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)
>>
>> 1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
>> 2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one from
>> tiddler
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different.
>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
 Hi David,

 > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2
 )
 to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the
 comptext plugin.

 I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although
 I am not familiar with it.

 Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core,
 with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another
 place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown
 
 .

 It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it
 simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I
 haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of
 tutorials
 
 as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a
 dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to
 do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of
 defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro),
 just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers.

 Best,
 Chris



 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave
> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the
> toggle buttons
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
> mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave
>>
>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar
>>is. But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the 
>> right.
>>
>> Why not use a page control button?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual
>>> checkboxes, it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it 
>>> will
>>> be easier for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and 
>>> custom
>>> tab groups.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone

 Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation
 is at that file.

 https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

@Mohammad

1. Looks nice with centralized! But the sidebar gets pretty squished.

2. Intrigued. By 'one window', what do you mean? Are you saying you did 
this? If so, Hulk want screenshot.
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 10:14:12 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)
>
> 1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
> 2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one from 
> tiddler
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different. 
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
>>> )
>>>  
>>> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the 
>>> comptext plugin.
>>>
>>> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I 
>>> am not familiar with it. 
>>>
>>> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, 
>>> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another 
>>> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
>>> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
>>> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of 
>>> tutorials 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
>>> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to 
>>> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
>>> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro), 
>>> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Dave
 You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle 
 buttons


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
 wrote:

> Dave
>
>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. 
>But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>
> Why not use a page control button?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  
> wrote:
>
>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, 
>> it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be 
>> easier 
>> for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab 
>> groups.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation 
>>> is at that file.
>>>
>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Dave,

Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)

1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from
https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one from
tiddler

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different.
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2
>> )
>> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the
>> comptext plugin.
>>
>> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I
>> am not familiar with it.
>>
>> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core,
>> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another
>> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown
>> 
>> .
>>
>> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it
>> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I
>> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of
>> tutorials
>> 
>> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a
>> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to
>> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of
>> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro),
>> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle
>>> buttons
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dave

1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is.
But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.

 Why not use a page control button?



 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford 
 wrote:

> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes,
> it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier
> for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab
> groups.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation
>> is at that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different. 
https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
> )
>  
> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the 
> comptext plugin.
>
> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I 
> am not familiar with it. 
>
> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, 
> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another 
> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 
> 
> .
>
> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of 
> tutorials 
> 
>  
> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to 
> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro), 
> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Dave
>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle 
>> buttons
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. 
>>>But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>>>
>>> Why not use a page control button?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, 
 it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier 
 for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab 
 groups.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is 
> at that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[clutterstack]

Hi David,

> I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
)
 
to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the 
comptext plugin.

I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I am 
not familiar with it. 

Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, with 
or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another place 
this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 

.

It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of tutorials 

 
as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to 
do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro), 
just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 

Best,
Chris



On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave
> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle 
> buttons
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Dave
>>
>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. 
>>But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>>
>> Why not use a page control button?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it 
>>> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for 
>>> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone

 Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is 
 at that file.

 https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Dave
You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle
buttons


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> Dave
>
>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. But
>if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>
> Why not use a page control button?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it
>> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for
>> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is
>>> at that file.
>>>
>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Dave

   1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. But
   if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.

Why not use a page control button?



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it
> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for
> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at
>> that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

[David Gifford]

Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it is 
now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for 
people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at 
> that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
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