Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones 
Folks,

I watched the video which was too late at night for me to attend. You all 
have my support and I am ready to contribute. You are all going in the 
direction I have wanted for some time so you have a happy chappy here.

I was not able to receive a confirmation email or sign up to talk 
tiddlywiki, but will try again in 12 hours.

I am very happy with the choice of discourse for a range or reasons 

Regards
Tones
On Wednesday, 18 August 2021 at 14:16:10 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> A video from the community call as well as slides are now available at the 
> new community forum:
>
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>
> You will also find a thread there in the Plugins section for feedback on 
> the beta release of the FileUploads plugin.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-08-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz 
A video from the community call as well as slides are now available at the 
new community forum:
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28

You will also find a thread there in the Plugins section for feedback on 
the beta release of the FileUploads plugin.

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-08-15 Thread Finn Lancaster 
Sounds great! I'll try my best to be there, although I have school at that 
time. Looking forward to seeing what @Saq, Jeremy, and everyone else have 
to say. Particularly related to the migration from GoogleGroups!

On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 9:10:56 AM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just to add that an additional topic we intend to discuss is the start of 
> a plan to migrate from Google Groups. We’ll give more details then,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 17:36, Boris Mann  wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's hard to fit Europe, west coast North American, and Australian 
>> timezones in one slot -- sorry about that!
>>
>> Yes, the session will be recorded.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 6:28:12 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Given
>>> Converted Time Sydney, NSW, Australia 
>>> 
>>> 2:00 am AEST 
>>> Wednesday, 18 August 2021
>>>
>>> I am not sure I will make it, perhaps in a follow-up one. If possible if 
>>> you can publish a recording after it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> This subject means a lot to me. If I may share these points in advance 
>>> for consideration.
>>>
>>>
>>>- The provision of serial editing (one use after the other) through 
>>>check in and check out mechanisms, for all saver mechanism's.  This 
>>> would 
>>>be the quickest route to supporting multi-users/teams on tiddlywiki
>>>- It is quite easy to change the filename of a saved tiddlywiki, say 
>>>on php and tw-reciever. it seems to be the save technology can already 
>>> save 
>>>files to hosts. It seems to be we need to open this up to trusted users 
>>>with the appropriate credentials so for example
>>>   - A single file tiddlywiki could save the changes made by one 
>>>   user only, in an independent file (delta backup). Then either the 
>>>  - owner can import all user contributions and apply them to 
>>>  the master copy, 
>>>  - or users can recover their current state by loading their 
>>>  own file of changes (delta backup) from the host ). 
>>>  - or both 
>>>  - Contention and overwrites can be handled by the wiki 
>>>  designer or interactively.
>>>   - Designers could write information or logs to the host file 
>>>   system from the tiddlywiki, acknowledging all permitted users have 
>>> file 
>>>   update rights. This would allow survey answers, to be saved, comments 
>>> etc...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>> On Saturday, 24 July 2021 at 04:02:41 UTC+10 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and 
 Jeremy and I'm happy to support you and the community.

 I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki 
 community can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ 
 inspired by the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where 
 it is at today. Their recent blog post is a very good read 
 https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
 I'll quote part of the post:

 *Technology Owned by the People*
 *Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
 become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
 community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
 control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
 but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence 
 on 
 the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*

 In short, I've been working with open source software and communities 
 for 2 decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build 
 Software 
 Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
 communities to pool funds towards common goals.

 This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to 
 having Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW 
 architecture. Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large 
 projects and people funded through OC?

 On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris 
> and myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core 
> Savers & Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
> 
>
> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a 
> very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link 
> above.
>
> The call will include:
>
>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by 
>Open Collective
>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-08-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Just to add that an additional topic we intend to discuss is the start of a
plan to migrate from Google Groups. We’ll give more details then,

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 17:36, Boris Mann  wrote:

> Yes, it's hard to fit Europe, west coast North American, and Australian
> timezones in one slot -- sorry about that!
>
> Yes, the session will be recorded.
>
>
> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 6:28:12 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Given
>> Converted Time Sydney, NSW, Australia
>> 
>> 2:00 am AEST 
>> Wednesday, 18 August 2021
>>
>> I am not sure I will make it, perhaps in a follow-up one. If possible if
>> you can publish a recording after it would be appreciated.
>>
>> This subject means a lot to me. If I may share these points in advance
>> for consideration.
>>
>>
>>- The provision of serial editing (one use after the other) through
>>check in and check out mechanisms, for all saver mechanism's.  This would
>>be the quickest route to supporting multi-users/teams on tiddlywiki
>>- It is quite easy to change the filename of a saved tiddlywiki, say
>>on php and tw-reciever. it seems to be the save technology can already 
>> save
>>files to hosts. It seems to be we need to open this up to trusted users
>>with the appropriate credentials so for example
>>   - A single file tiddlywiki could save the changes made by one user
>>   only, in an independent file (delta backup). Then either the
>>  - owner can import all user contributions and apply them to the
>>  master copy,
>>  - or users can recover their current state by loading their own
>>  file of changes (delta backup) from the host ).
>>  - or both
>>  - Contention and overwrites can be handled by the wiki designer
>>  or interactively.
>>   - Designers could write information or logs to the host file
>>   system from the tiddlywiki, acknowledging all permitted users have file
>>   update rights. This would allow survey answers, to be saved, comments 
>> etc...
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>> On Saturday, 24 July 2021 at 04:02:41 UTC+10 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and
>>> Jeremy and I'm happy to support you and the community.
>>>
>>> I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community
>>> can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by
>>> the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at
>>> today. Their recent blog post is a very good read
>>> https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/.
>>> I'll quote part of the post:
>>>
>>> *Technology Owned by the People*
>>> *Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms
>>> become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to
>>> community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community
>>> control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds,
>>> but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on
>>> the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*
>>>
>>> In short, I've been working with open source software and communities
>>> for 2 decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software
>>> Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by
>>> communities to pool funds towards common goals.
>>>
>>> This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having
>>> Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture.
>>> Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people
>>> funded through OC?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and
 myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers &
 Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom
 

 I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a
 very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link
 above.

 The call will include:

- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by
Open Collective
- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core
development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out
of discussions around the Uploads plugin
- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki
work and what we have learned from it thus far
- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to
TiddlyWiki *community infrastructure*.

 I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as
 was

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-24 Thread Boris Mann 
Yes, it's hard to fit Europe, west coast North American, and Australian 
timezones in one slot -- sorry about that!

Yes, the session will be recorded.


On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 6:28:12 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Given
> Converted Time Sydney, NSW, Australia 
> 
> 2:00 am AEST 
> Wednesday, 18 August 2021
>
> I am not sure I will make it, perhaps in a follow-up one. If possible if 
> you can publish a recording after it would be appreciated.
>
> This subject means a lot to me. If I may share these points in advance for 
> consideration.
>
>
>- The provision of serial editing (one use after the other) through 
>check in and check out mechanisms, for all saver mechanism's.  This would 
>be the quickest route to supporting multi-users/teams on tiddlywiki
>- It is quite easy to change the filename of a saved tiddlywiki, say 
>on php and tw-reciever. it seems to be the save technology can already 
> save 
>files to hosts. It seems to be we need to open this up to trusted users 
>with the appropriate credentials so for example
>   - A single file tiddlywiki could save the changes made by one user 
>   only, in an independent file (delta backup). Then either the 
>  - owner can import all user contributions and apply them to the 
>  master copy, 
>  - or users can recover their current state by loading their own 
>  file of changes (delta backup) from the host ). 
>  - or both 
>  - Contention and overwrites can be handled by the wiki designer 
>  or interactively.
>   - Designers could write information or logs to the host file system 
>   from the tiddlywiki, acknowledging all permitted users have file update 
>   rights. This would allow survey answers, to be saved, comments etc...
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Saturday, 24 July 2021 at 04:02:41 UTC+10 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and 
>> Jeremy and I'm happy to support you and the community.
>>
>> I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community 
>> can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by 
>> the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at 
>> today. Their recent blog post is a very good read 
>> https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
>> I'll quote part of the post:
>>
>> *Technology Owned by the People*
>> *Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
>> become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
>> community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
>> control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
>> but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on 
>> the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*
>>
>> In short, I've been working with open source software and communities for 
>> 2 decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software 
>> Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
>> communities to pool funds towards common goals.
>>
>> This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having 
>> Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture. 
>> Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people 
>> funded through OC?
>>
>> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
>>> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
>>> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a 
>>> very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link 
>>> above.
>>>
>>> The call will include:
>>>
>>>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by 
>>>Open Collective
>>>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>>>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out 
>>>of discussions around the Uploads plugin
>>>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki 
>>>work and what we have learned from it thus far
>>>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to 
>>>TiddlyWiki *community infrastructure*.
>>>
>>> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
>>> was previously announced 
>>> . 
>>> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
>>> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
>>> discussions with Jeremy around

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-23 Thread TW Tones 
Given
Converted Time Sydney, NSW, Australia 

2:00 am AEST 
Wednesday, 18 August 2021

I am not sure I will make it, perhaps in a follow-up one. If possible if 
you can publish a recording after it would be appreciated.

This subject means a lot to me. If I may share these points in advance for 
consideration.


   - The provision of serial editing (one use after the other) through 
   check in and check out mechanisms, for all saver mechanism's.  This would 
   be the quickest route to supporting multi-users/teams on tiddlywiki
   - It is quite easy to change the filename of a saved tiddlywiki, say on 
   php and tw-reciever. it seems to be the save technology can already save 
   files to hosts. It seems to be we need to open this up to trusted users 
   with the appropriate credentials so for example
  - A single file tiddlywiki could save the changes made by one user 
  only, in an independent file (delta backup). Then either the 
 - owner can import all user contributions and apply them to the 
 master copy, 
 - or users can recover their current state by loading their own 
 file of changes (delta backup) from the host ). 
 - or both 
 - Contention and overwrites can be handled by the wiki designer or 
 interactively.
  - Designers could write information or logs to the host file system 
  from the tiddlywiki, acknowledging all permitted users have file update 
  rights. This would allow survey answers, to be saved, comments etc...
   
Regards
Tones
On Saturday, 24 July 2021 at 04:02:41 UTC+10 bo...@fission.codes wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and 
> Jeremy and I'm happy to support you and the community.
>
> I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community 
> can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by 
> the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at 
> today. Their recent blog post is a very good read 
> https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
> I'll quote part of the post:
>
> *Technology Owned by the People*
> *Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
> become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
> community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
> control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
> but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on 
> the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*
>
> In short, I've been working with open source software and communities for 
> 2 decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software 
> Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
> communities to pool funds towards common goals.
>
> This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having 
> Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture. 
> Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people 
> funded through OC?
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
>> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
>> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>>
>> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a 
>> very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link 
>> above.
>>
>> The call will include:
>>
>>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open 
>>Collective
>>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of 
>>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki 
>>work and what we have learned from it thus far
>>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to 
>>TiddlyWiki *community infrastructure*.
>>
>> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
>> was previously announced 
>> . 
>> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
>> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
>> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the 
>> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards 
>> to saving and syncing mechanisms. 
>>
>> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore 
>> in due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may 
>> amongst other things

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-23 Thread Boris Mann 
Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and Jeremy 
and I'm happy to support you and the community.

I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community 
can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by 
the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at 
today. Their recent blog post is a very good 
read https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
I'll quote part of the post:

*Technology Owned by the People*
*Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on 
the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*

In short, I've been working with open source software and communities for 2 
decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software 
Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
communities to pool funds towards common goals.

This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having 
Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture. 
Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people 
funded through OC?

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>
> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a very 
> interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link above.
>
> The call will include:
>
>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open 
>Collective
>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of 
>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki work 
>and what we have learned from it thus far
>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to TiddlyWiki 
> *community 
>infrastructure*.
>
> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
> was previously announced 
> . 
> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the 
> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards 
> to saving and syncing mechanisms. 
>
> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore in 
> due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may 
> amongst other things eventually make file uploads a core TiddlyWiki ability 
> alongside saving and syncing and static file publishing.
>
> This has necessitated a change in approach to the File Uploads plugin so 
> as to not introduce changes to the TiddlyWiki core at this time which may 
> clash with the long term direction of development, and still make the 
> Uploads plugin available in a timely manner for those that need this 
> functionality today. I currently have a minimal working prototype that 
> uploads images imported into TiddlyWiki to Fission, though with no UI or 
> error handling as of yet and desperately in need of some heavy refactoring 
> to better be able to support different storage back ends. I hope to present 
> a demo of an early version of the plugin on the call.
>
> I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Boris and Fission. 
> Despite Boris having chipped in for the vast majority of the funding for 
> this plugin as it is something he needs in his own TiddlyWiki usage, not 
> only has he been patient and supportive as we focus on long term core 
> planning first, but Fission has actively been facilitating those 
> discussions.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-22 Thread Saq Imtiaz 
You can see your corresponding local time at the following link:

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=TiddlyWiki+Community+Call+and+File+Uploads+Plugin=20210817T18=195=1=30

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-22 Thread Saq Imtiaz 
Apologies Soren, I should have specified in UTC as well. CET is indeed 
UTC+2.

So the community call is at August 17th at 16:00 UTC

You can see your corresponding local time here .

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:18:45 PM UTC+2 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> Saq,
>
> To clarify for those of us who are not as familiar with European time 
> zones, is this UTC+2 because it is summer?
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 2:33:18 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
>> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
>> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>>
>> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a 
>> very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link 
>> above.
>>
>> The call will include:
>>
>>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open 
>>Collective
>>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of 
>>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki 
>>work and what we have learned from it thus far
>>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to 
>>TiddlyWiki *community infrastructure*.
>>
>> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
>> was previously announced 
>> . 
>> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
>> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
>> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the 
>> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards 
>> to saving and syncing mechanisms. 
>>
>> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore 
>> in due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may 
>> amongst other things eventually make file uploads a core TiddlyWiki ability 
>> alongside saving and syncing and static file publishing.
>>
>> This has necessitated a change in approach to the File Uploads plugin so 
>> as to not introduce changes to the TiddlyWiki core at this time which may 
>> clash with the long term direction of development, and still make the 
>> Uploads plugin available in a timely manner for those that need this 
>> functionality today. I currently have a minimal working prototype that 
>> uploads images imported into TiddlyWiki to Fission, though with no UI or 
>> error handling as of yet and desperately in need of some heavy refactoring 
>> to better be able to support different storage back ends. I hope to present 
>> a demo of an early version of the plugin on the call.
>>
>> I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Boris and Fission. 
>> Despite Boris having chipped in for the vast majority of the funding for 
>> this plugin as it is something he needs in his own TiddlyWiki usage, not 
>> only has he been patient and supportive as we focus on long term core 
>> planning first, but Fission has actively been facilitating those 
>> discussions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-07-22 Thread Soren Bjornstad 
Saq,

To clarify for those of us who are not as familiar with European time 
zones, is this UTC+2 because it is summer?
On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 2:33:18 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>
> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a very 
> interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link above.
>
> The call will include:
>
>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open 
>Collective
>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of 
>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki work 
>and what we have learned from it thus far
>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to TiddlyWiki 
> *community 
>infrastructure*.
>
> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
> was previously announced 
> . 
> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the 
> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards 
> to saving and syncing mechanisms. 
>
> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore in 
> due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may 
> amongst other things eventually make file uploads a core TiddlyWiki ability 
> alongside saving and syncing and static file publishing.
>
> This has necessitated a change in approach to the File Uploads plugin so 
> as to not introduce changes to the TiddlyWiki core at this time which may 
> clash with the long term direction of development, and still make the 
> Uploads plugin available in a timely manner for those that need this 
> functionality today. I currently have a minimal working prototype that 
> uploads images imported into TiddlyWiki to Fission, though with no UI or 
> error handling as of yet and desperately in need of some heavy refactoring 
> to better be able to support different storage back ends. I hope to present 
> a demo of an early version of the plugin on the call.
>
> I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Boris and Fission. 
> Despite Boris having chipped in for the vast majority of the funding for 
> this plugin as it is something he needs in his own TiddlyWiki usage, not 
> only has he been patient and supportive as we focus on long term core 
> planning first, but Fission has actively been facilitating those 
> discussions.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>

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