Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Here’s the new link for joining the call if you missed it:

https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/2uohcMkxUFSZqt4zoz00trSz2DXmv5B-lq1qFNPVDqc=?hl=en_US
 


> On 13 Feb 2018, at 15:14, Stephan Hradek  wrote:
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> Am Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 16:11:17 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:
> My Safari won't let me join. No way to activate the plugin :(
> 
> And now I get "You're not authorized to start this video call."
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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[PMario]

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> Jeremey will post a new link
>
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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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> And now I get "You're not authorized to start this video call.”

Try using the link I posted below

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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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Am Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 16:11:17 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:
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> My Safari won't let me join. No way to activate the plugin :(
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And now I get "You're not authorized to start this video call."

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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Apologies, I was having problems with Google Hangouts, and have had to start 
over. The new links are:

Watch at http://youtu.be/CwV90jwc5Y8

Join in at 
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> My Safari won't let me join. No way to activate the plugin :(

Ouch! It used to work in Safari, shame if it’s broken now

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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My Safari won't let me join. No way to activate the plugin :(

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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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The rescheduled hangout #105 is about to start.

Watch at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyAw6IniNrI

Join in at 
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Best wishes

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> On 13 Feb 2018, at 13:23, PMario  wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 2:20:35 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
> The proposal here is, that every PR to the main repo will be automatically 
> built and deployed as an experimental edition, that contains the changes. 
> So others can easily test them and give feedback. 
> The deploy step will only happen, if the build step is successful. 
> 
> What I also want is, that if a experimental version is crated the bot should 
> push a link to eg: https://gitter.im/TiddlyWiki/public
> Which is a chat, that has good linking possibilities to github.
> 
> -m
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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 10:26:50 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> ...
>
 

> Absolutely. Once we're over the technical transition we need to appoint a 
> team of volunteers so that we can together deal with the outstanding 
> backlog through divide and conquer and a consistent set of 
> policies/checklists. The immediate job for the core team is actually to 
> start writing down those policies in a clear way so that we can link to 
> them.
>

Sure. 

I do have some ideas here. I would like to work with a KISS-like system. 
Not this kiss 
,
 
but this KISS . We just need 
a simple way to iterate on the rules, once they are carved in stone. May be 
we try sandstone first ;)

-m



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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

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Am Sonntag, 11. Februar 2018 14:42:52 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> The rescheduled hangout will be on Tuesday 13th February 2018 at 3pm GMT.
>

That sounds awesome… Just out of curiosity I clicked this thread just to 
see a new hangout will start today.

I will try to join if you don't mind.

One topic I'd like to propose is Jeremy's participation at FrOSCon in 
August ;)

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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mario

 * There are 100+ PRs pending ...
> - I think about 10 are approved already, but not merged yet,
>- IMO several "core devs" could speed that process up a lot.
>

That is indeed the primary driver for the move from github.com/Jermolene to
github.com/TiddlyWiki; as you know, personal accounts don't have the same
capabilities to delegate access as organisations do.


> - This could be a good testcase for the new CI/CD approach.
>- 1 prerelease per PR
>- to bet better feedback from testers.
>

Absolutely, being able to do that is one of the key benefits of CI.


>  * We need to discuss, how we can "get rid" of them, *in a positive way*.
> - I think, contributors, that write PRs can live with a "no", if it is
> well-founded.
>- Many PR are better off as plugins.
>- We should show them an easy way to go that route.
> - From my point of view, the status quo is "frustrating" for all sides.
>

Absolutely. Once we're over the technical transition we need to appoint a
team of volunteers so that we can together deal with the outstanding
backlog through divide and conquer and a consistent set of
policies/checklists. The immediate job for the core team is actually to
start writing down those policies in a clear way so that we can link to
them.

Best wishes

Jeremy




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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

The rescheduled hangout will be on Tuesday 13th February 2018 at 3pm GMT.

I'll post the joining details just before we start,

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 10 Feb 2018, at 08:47, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> 
> Hi Diego,
> 
>> How did it go?!
> 
> We ended up never actually starting the hangout. Mario, who is the driving 
> force behind the GitHub changes we’re discussing, wasn’t able to make it at 
> the last minute, and the only other attendee didn’t have a microphone.
> 
> I’ll reschedule #105 for next week,
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 9:06:01 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> The hangout is just about to start.
>>> 
>>> Watch at http://youtu.be/jyAw6IniNrI
>>> 
>>> Join in at 
>>> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/zbtl7aRxhZJVSrDPtA9wvi_9PaeD4jFqVAFZrh2OU1c=?hl=en_US
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy.
>>> 
 On 7 Feb 2018, at 09:08, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
 
 TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm 
 GMT.
 
 This will be another developer-oriented hangout to discuss plans for 
 project infrastructure improvements in 2018. There are a few intertwingled 
 topics, but the key ones revolve around the way that we use GitHub:
 
 * Moving TiddlyWiki5 and TiddlyDesktop to the official TiddlyWiki GitHub 
 repo so that we can use more fine-grained permissions to delegate project 
 tasks amongst the core team
 
 * Establishing an automated build process so that updates can be published 
 quickly by any authorised members of the project team
 
 I'll post the links to join the hangout here and on Twitter just before we 
 kick off,
 
 Best wishes
 
 Jeremy
 
 
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Re: [twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Diego,

> How did it go?!

We ended up never actually starting the hangout. Mario, who is the driving 
force behind the GitHub changes we’re discussing, wasn’t able to make it at the 
last minute, and the only other attendee didn’t have a microphone.

I’ll reschedule #105 for next week,

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 9:06:01 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> The hangout is just about to start.
> 
> Watch at http://youtu.be/jyAw6IniNrI 
> 
> Join in at 
> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/zbtl7aRxhZJVSrDPtA9wvi_9PaeD4jFqVAFZrh2OU1c=?hl=en_US
>  
> 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2018, at 09:08, Jeremy Ruston > wrote:
>> 
>> TiddlyWiki 5 Dev Hangout #105 will be on Friday 9th February 2018 at 3pm GMT.
>> 
>> This will be another developer-oriented hangout to discuss plans for project 
>> infrastructure improvements in 2018. There are a few intertwingled topics, 
>> but the key ones revolve around the way that we use GitHub:
>> 
>> * Moving TiddlyWiki5 and TiddlyDesktop to the official TiddlyWiki GitHub 
>> repo so that we can use more fine-grained permissions to delegate project 
>> tasks amongst the core team
>> 
>> * Establishing an automated build process so that updates can be published 
>> quickly by any authorised members of the project team
>> 
>> I'll post the links to join the hangout here and on Twitter just before we 
>> kick off,
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
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