Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-18 Thread Sebastiaan Breedveld
On 03/16/2011 09:59 PM, Eric Stadtherr wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:50:53 -0500, DRC wrote: http://www.virtualgl.org/DeveloperInfo/TigerVNCPreReleases -- Reverts default behavior of vncserver but adds a 'vncserver -autokill' option that will automatically kill Xvnc whenever xstartup exits.

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-18 Thread Sebastiaan Breedveld
On 03/16/2011 09:50 PM, DRC wrote: http://www.virtualgl.org/DeveloperInfo/TigerVNCPreReleases -- Reverts default behavior of vncserver but adds a 'vncserver -autokill' option that will automatically kill Xvnc whenever xstartup exits. Builds fine, runs fine (Linux 64). No comments from me on

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-18 Thread Adam Tkac
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 03:28:26PM +0100, Sebastiaan Breedveld wrote: On 03/16/2011 09:50 PM, DRC wrote: http://www.virtualgl.org/DeveloperInfo/TigerVNCPreReleases Just for information, how did you build Windows stuff? Via mingw or msvc? I tested the 32bit build and it seems fine for me. In

[Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-16 Thread DRC
http://www.virtualgl.org/DeveloperInfo/TigerVNCPreReleases -- Reverts default behavior of vncserver but adds a 'vncserver -autokill' option that will automatically kill Xvnc whenever xstartup exits. -- Colocation vs.

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-16 Thread Eric Stadtherr
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:50:53 -0500, DRC wrote: http://www.virtualgl.org/DeveloperInfo/TigerVNCPreReleases [1] -- Reverts default behavior of vncserver but adds a 'vncserver -autokill' option that will automatically kill Xvnc whenever xstartup exits. How does this interact with the

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build

2011-03-16 Thread DRC
-once shuts down Xvnc after the first VNC connection has disconnected. It only works when Xvnc is run from inet.d (it's designed to be used to launch Xvnc on demand as a connection comes in.) -autokill is a fundamentally different feature. -autokill is a function of the vncserver startup script,

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Robert Goley
Just to throw my 2 cents in as well... I would prefer this behavior be reverted as well. I know it will end up causing us problems if for no other reason than window managers crash and we don't want everything else in our session to be taken down with them

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Sebastiaan Breedveld
It seems that the -fg was implemented differently than expected: diff between old and new -system("$vncUserDir/xstartup " . quotedString($desktopLog) . " 21 "); +if ($opt{'-fg'}) { + system("$vncUserDir/xstartup " . quotedString($desktopLog) . " 21");

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread DRC
No, it was intentional. I was implementing both the -fg functionality and Martin's suggestion to change the default behavior. Adam and Robert objected to the change in default behavior. I am seeking clarification about the objections. On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Sebastiaan Breedveld

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Adam Tkac
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 08:41:02AM -0600, DRC wrote: Just so I fully understand the issue, what would you normally do if the WM crashes? Is there a reasonable way to recover in that case? When WM crashes then applications which are started for example from xstartup script are not terminated

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Robert Goley
Restart the window manager and not lose any of the work we were in the middle of.  Typically, it would be the following commands in an xterm or similar: openbox    (though this could be other WMs as well) disown exit On 03/11/2011 09:41

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Martin Koegler
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 04:05:00PM +0100, Adam Tkac wrote: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 08:41:02AM -0600, DRC wrote: Just so I fully understand the issue, what would you normally do if the WM crashes? Is there a reasonable way to recover in that case? When WM crashes then applications which

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Robert Goley
You have been more fortunate then. My users always seem to find those unknown or unlikely crashes or closes. We have used KDE/GNOME in the past but they are kind of "heavy" and slow down the VNC session performance when using it over lower bandwidth connections. We use

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Martin Koegler
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 02:56:51PM -0500, Robert Goley wrote: You have been more fortunate then. My users always seem to find those unknown or unlikely crashes or closes. We have used KDE/GNOME in the past but they are kind of heavy and slow down the VNC session performance when using it

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread DRC
My take on it is that we shouldn't be dictating someone's workflow. If this modification prevents people from using TigerVNC in the manner they want to use it, then we should revert it, because like I said, you can accomplish exactly the same thing with vncserver -fg I will make the

Re: [Tigervnc-devel] New pre-beta build uploaded

2011-03-11 Thread Robert Goley
You are right about how X exits. If launched from kdm/gdm it closes X when the window manager exits. When run stand alone using xinit or similar, it stays running. The whole xstartup file is basically a copy of how xinit has always worked. Beside my personal reasons for not changing the default,