Re: [time-nuts] Zero-Crossing Detector Design?

2012-07-23 Thread ct1dmk
For the specific application of driving an FPGA clock pin (that has an enormous input bandwidth) many things can go wrong. All fine about the advantages and disadvantages of the gate with resistor feedback, all I can say is that over here I it was not the best solution we found over many FPGA

Re: [time-nuts] Zero-Crossing Detector Design?

2012-07-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Did you try running it at 3.3V and going into an LVDS input on the FPGA? Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ct1dmk Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:26 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Zero-Crossing Detector Design?

2012-07-23 Thread ct1dmk
Hi Bob, No, never tried but it looks a good idea. Our boards all have 5v so there was never any pressure... ... for a 0.5v in the tail resistor to vcc and 0.7v of vbe I could easily allow collectors to swing some 300mv around 1.2V... a couple of resistors more than my single ended solution...

[time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitable antenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Stephen Farthing
Hi Guys, I have a couple of Trimble T Lassen 2 boards I bought at a Hamfest - the guy told me they were left over from a contract he had and were brand new. He had a load and i bought a couple for use as a precision 1 PPS output for radio stuff. They were packed in static protection. When I apply

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread jmfranke
Do not be too quick to toss out the antennas. Some receivers need the antenna power to be connected to a pin on the receiver connector that is then internally routed to the antenna. John WA4WDL -- From: Stephen Farthing squir...@gmail.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Azelio Boriani
...And don't forget that the PPS pulse is very narrow so you have to use a 'scope with memory, a digital 'scope or turn the brightness at max. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:31 PM, jmfranke jmfra...@cox.net wrote: Do not be too quick to toss out the antennas. Some receivers need the antenna power

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Bob Bownes
The pulse from my T-Bolt is on the order of 1uS wide. I captured it on the digital scope for posterity and future reference. http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.jpg Bob On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I wass fooled by this too. My analog

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Mike Feher
Wow, that is indeed narrow. Only 1us out of a 1 second rep rate. That is one millionth of the rep rate. No wonder analog scopes will not catch it. I'll have to try it some time. Regards - Mike Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc. 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 96, Issue 89

2012-07-23 Thread Stephen Farthing
Guys, Thanks for all the advice. I'll let you know how it goes... Steve On 23 July 2012 18:06, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to time-nuts@febo.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitable antenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Hal Murray
squir...@gmail.com said: While i am on, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced unit that has a 1pps output, NMEA and a built in antenna. Because I want to use this with an 8 bit embedded system I am probably not going to be able to hack one of the many cheap USB dongle GPS's. Garmin GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2

2012-07-23 Thread WarrenS
And here it goes again for about the umpteenth time, how to detect the presents of a short low rep rate pulse. This can be done with ANY analog scope by using the normal trigger mode and setting the trigger correctly. An analog scope can detect the presents of any short pulse no matter how low

Re: [time-nuts] Zero-Crossing Detector Design?

2012-07-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The nice thing about going into the LVDS inputs is that you are differential right at the FPGA. Often that's where a *lot* of junk is running around. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ct1dmk Sent: Monday, July

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread C. Turner
My old '465 will trigger on the 1pps, but it's far easier to see the trigger LED flash than finesse the brightness/sweep to make it visible - something possible only on a 'scope with a decently bright tube. Another cheap/easy trick to detect the 1pps pulse is simply to listen to it with an

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 -suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread jmfranke
Set the scope sweep speed to 10 milliseconds per division and then even a dull scope is easy to see. You are looking for trigger events from the 1PPS, not the 1PPS itself. John WA4WDL -- From: C. Turner tur...@ussc.com Sent: Monday, July 23,

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2

2012-07-23 Thread WarrenS
That works when there is a trigger LED, OR Just need to slow down the sweep rate to say 10ms / div or slower and then there will be a nice clear, easy to see, can't miss, white line, across ANY scope with each pulse when the scope is triggered by a short low rep input pulse.

[time-nuts] Shorthand

2012-07-23 Thread g4gjl
Is there a commonly accepted shorthand for a frequency, say 10MHz, generated at the maximum accuracy of the lab generating it? ie instead of writing 10.5MHz? Pete G4GJL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Shorthand

2012-07-23 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, 5E-10, valid for every frequency. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM, g4...@btopenworld.com wrote: Is there a commonly accepted shorthand for a frequency, say 10MHz, generated at the maximum accuracy of the lab generating it? ie instead of writing 10.5MHz? Pete G4GJL

[time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread Bud Patten
I'm having a problem getting Lady Heather up and running with Windows 7.I attempted to change the com port to 3 per KE5FX's web site using the command C:\Program Files\Heather\heather.exe/2 and I get an error message that tells me that the command is not valid. What gives? Bud WØLCP

Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bud, the /2 should be inside the quotes as you show it. Of course the quotes are not used in the windows environment. That should be /3 if you are wanting to go to port 3. So your command line, used in the ICON or link, should read: C:\Program Files\Heather\heather.exe /3 Hopefully that

Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread Tom Miller
I think you need a space before the /2. C:\Program Files\Heather\heather.exe /2 But I could be wrong. Tom - Original Message - From: Bud Patten bud.pat...@frontiernet.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:00 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Heather Problem.. I'm having

Re: [time-nuts] Shorthand

2012-07-23 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Pete, Yes, there are several ways to represent frequencies: 1) Absolute units of Hz. For example 60 Hz, or 32.768 kHz, or 3.579545 MHz, or 9.192631770 GHz. Note some modern texts use s⁻¹ (1/s or s-1) instead of Hz or Hertz. Or, you can always show your age and use cps (cycles per second).

Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread John Miles
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of WB6BNQ Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:07 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem.. Hi Bud, the /2 should be inside

Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi John, I stand corrected. I fooled myself because I usually load my programs in a different directory where no spaces exists. thus I was lulled into not learning something before. Thanks for the refresher. BillWB6BNQ John Miles wrote: -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitableantenna....advice.....questions

2012-07-23 Thread Didier Juges
Www. KO4BB.com/Test_Equipment/Thunderbolt/PulseStretching/ It does not have to be complicated Didier KO4BB Mike Feher mfe...@eozinc.com wrote: Wow, that is indeed narrow. Only 1us out of a 1 second rep rate. That is one millionth of the rep rate. No wonder analog scopes will not catch it.

[time-nuts] HP 3586 Questions

2012-07-23 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Now that I have my new [30 year old] HP 3586 making measurements over the GPIB bus I have a few questions. Setting AVErage makes measurements take about three seconds. Is there a way to control the number of samples averaged? How difficult is it to open up the 3586 to replace the input

Re: [time-nuts] Shorthand

2012-07-23 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/23/12 3:23 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi Pete, Yes, there are several ways to represent frequencies: 1) Absolute units of Hz. For example 60 Hz, or 32.768 kHz, or 3.579545 MHz, or 9.192631770 GHz. Note some modern texts use s⁻¹ (1/s or s-1) instead of Hz or Hertz. Or, you can always show