Re: [time-nuts] MINI TIC implementation

2012-11-23 Thread Timeok
Hi all, I would like to know some more about this project's status and cosistency. This seems to be the total solution to ours exspectation about Adev measurements. The question I have are: What is the project plan about the paper production to describe or/and sell the HW? Is the project a

Re: [time-nuts] MINI TIC implementation

2012-11-23 Thread EWKehren
We are working on a documentation package and it will the thanks to Didier on his site. At this time three items are available and tested. A basic dual mixer based on the original NBS paper with modifications, a 2 channel counter and a 4 channel counter. Juerg is working on a LCD display

Re: [time-nuts] MINI TIC implementation

2012-11-23 Thread Timeok
Hi Bert, many thanks for your answer. It si complete and I have a better idea on what you are working on. I am sure your work is important for all the time and frequency hobbiest. If you need some more help to develop the project please make a list of your needed, may be in the webb we can

[time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Anders Time
I have been using an minicircuits mixer as a phase detector for measuring low frequency(5-10MHz) and it is usually good enough. But when I want to measure 100MHz the sensitivity of the mixer decreases a lot, so when I want to measure some really low noise 100MHz(Pascall -178dBc floor with 18dBm

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 100, Issue 95

2012-11-23 Thread Jacques Tiete
About: { Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:26:24 +0100 From: Fabio Eboli fabi...@quipo.it To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] MT3339 chipset in Globaltop's FGPMMOPA6H Message-ID: 2012112624.71854hb9oslin...@webmail.micso.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes;

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
The old Watkins Johnson M9 series was the state of the art for stacked diode mixers. You can still get the M9E and M9H from MaCom Technology Solutions. The M9E is better, but only if you have the 1/2 watt! of LO drive needed. As you have done already, it is probably possible to homebrew

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Anders, isn't this format exactly what is inside the high level mixers (spec'e +17dBm) from Minicircuits? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Anders Time anderst...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Best phase detector /

[time-nuts] WWVB new modulation...

2012-11-23 Thread Burt I. Weiner
There were several companies that made WWV clocks that worked by recovering the 100 Hz time code information. ESE, who makes broadcast related products, including clocks, was one. I remember installing several card types manufactured by various companies that worked in computers. I still

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Bruce Griffiths
NIST have shown (at least at 10MHz) that the high level mixers they tested are noisier than the ZRPD1. Bruce Alan Melia wrote: Hi Anders, isn't this format exactly what is inside the high level mixers (spec'e +17dBm) from Minicircuits? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Anders

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 11/23/2012 9:38 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: NIST have shown (at least at 10MHz) that the high level mixers they tested are noisier than the ZRPD1. Bruce Do you have a citation to where they said that? What you quoted doesn't make sense, at least, out of context. We need to clarify phase

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 100, Issue 95

2012-11-23 Thread Fabio Eboli
Hello Jacques, what revision of the module do you have? On adafruit's page, under Downloads tab you can see that they use 3 different GPS units: PA6B for first revision, built around an MT3329 PA6C for the second and PA6H for the third, both with MT3339 chipset. Where did you see the different

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Alan Melia
Not unreasonable Bruce..no free lunches etc. :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Best

[time-nuts] 10638A Degausser Update

2012-11-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
A couple of weeks ago I posted about problems with my HP 10638A degausser (that's used with the 5061 Cs units to remove residual magnetism from the high-performance option tube). My troubleshooting indicated that the problem was likely in the op-amp that is used to generate an exponentially

Re: [time-nuts] 10638A Degausser Update

2012-11-23 Thread paul swed
Congrats John. Lots of fun. The interesting thing is you most likely have enough info so that anyone could build a degausser if needed. It doesn't sound to bad. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:06 PM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: A couple of weeks ago I posted about

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB new modulation...

2012-11-23 Thread Christopher Brown
On 11/23/12 8:28 AM, Burt I. Weiner wrote: I still have two of the Heathkit clocks, but alas, they won't work at home because of my standards. Burt, K6OQK Are your equipment and interconnects leaking that badly? ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Anders, On 11/23/2012 04:42 PM, Anders Time wrote: I have been using an minicircuits mixer as a phase detector for measuring low frequency(5-10MHz) and it is usually good enough. But when I want to measure 100MHz the sensitivity of the mixer decreases a lot, so when I want to measure some

[time-nuts] C-MAC hookup

2012-11-23 Thread Joseph Gray
A friend just got a C-MAC Sine 10MHz Double Oven Oscillator and asked me to see if anyone here knows how to hook it up and get it working. Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Anders, On 11/23/2012 04:42 PM, Anders Time wrote: I have been using an minicircuits mixer as a phase detector for measuring low frequency(5-10MHz) and it is usually good enough. But when I want to measure 100MHz the sensitivity of the mixer decreases a lot, so when

Re: [time-nuts] C-MAC hookup

2012-11-23 Thread Tymm Twillman
Hi Joseph, I picked one up a bit ago finally found connection info on this ebay page: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CMAC-10MHz-ocxo-oscillator-square-wave-sc-cut-/180911738566 Seemed to work fine for me (though have not yet attempted any frequency compensation; just left VFC floating). Quick