Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-27 Thread David J Taylor
Well, its a matter of opinions I guess. The RPi has one UART which is also the console port, so so much for that, and 17 IOs in total from the link in the message below. On the other hand, the BeagleBone Black has 96 IOs including several UARTs. I have one of each at the moment, and it seems

Re: [time-nuts] Selecting a Microcontroller

2013-05-27 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:38:35AM -0600, Brent Gordon wrote: The two threads here, Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project? and Follow-up question re: microcontroller families have a lot of good information. A more organized approach is available at the Digi-Key/Design

Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX

2013-05-27 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Hi Ed, All looking good with EFC reconnected. I will chuck it on time-lab shortly. Except the output frequency is -0.05Hz out. Do you think the 9390 EFC will pull it in O/K? -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf

Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The C field adjustment on the Rb should have a range of +/- 0.003 Hz a 10 MHz. It is unlikely that you can pull the Rb 0.05 Hz. The EFC on the OC-VCXO should have a range of 30 Hz. You should be able to bump the EFC 0.05 Hz. All that is based (of course) on already having something that

[time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows about a not so expensive wall digital clock that gets its time from an NTP server... TIA, Miguel ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX

2013-05-27 Thread Ed Palmer
The first thing I'd do is let it cook for a few days. Monitor it carefully to see if it's drifting and in which direction. If it's moving, just leave it alone and see how far it will go. Be sure to document things so you know if it's gradually slowing down. Once it really is stable, you

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Correct answer: I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the radio controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. Also correct, but a bit of a joke answer: Raspberry PI driving your television set. Alternatively make the Pi feed control signals to a hacked

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Albertson
I've seen LLCD computer monitors used as clocks. Seems this would be the perfect use for a Rasbury Pi. and a cheap monitor. $100 or maybe a low-end Android tablet. The way it is more commonly done is you have you computer that is using NTP produce an IRIG time code. Then there are any number of

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi Bob! On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Correct answer: I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the radio controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet controller and a 7 segment

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On May 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves m...@mbg.pt wrote: Hi Bob! On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Correct answer: I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the radio controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly.

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves m...@mbg.pt wrote: Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of the month. I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise stratum 1 servers :-) what's the point in having them if I can see the time anywhere? :-)

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Eric Williams
If you want a project, you should be able to get an older Android tablet or a Chumby 8 for $100 or less and hack it to do what you want. Hard to beat the price for the hardware you get. I'm happy with my OnTime dial clock. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
On 27 May 2013 16:22, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves m...@mbg.pt wrote: Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of the month. I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise stratum 1

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread cfo
On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:29:11 +0100, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves wrote: Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows about a not so expensive wall digital clock that gets its time from an NTP server... TIA, Miguel This was posted to the group @21-05

Re: [time-nuts] NTP on RaspberryPi

2013-05-27 Thread folkert
In 3 weeks I have 2 connected to a GPS with PPS, I'll publish the results here. It is great stuff, these RPIs. On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 09:30:47AM -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: NTP does not really sync to a server. What it does is use the set of reference clocks that pas the clock selection

Re: [time-nuts] Selecting a Microcontroller

2013-05-27 Thread Brent Gordon
Registration is required; that's the price you pay for a free course. Once registered, you click on the title of each day's class to go to that class. Near the top of the page is a heading Special Educational Materials with a link to Today's Slide Deck underneath. Click the link to download

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you are doing this from scratch today, would you go IRIG or would you go RS-485 for a wall clock? Both will drive more cable than you are likely to have in a house. Both are reasonably noise immune. With RS-485 there's less to do. It's a serial stream like any other bunch of stuff into a

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread David J Taylor
From: Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves [] Just checked the Windows taskbar clock and it has a 1 second delay... At work I use Windows but use Mac OS X at home... but I am looking for a solution for the Windows platform. TIA, Miguel === Both analogue and digital display,

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread mike cook
Le 27 mai 2013 à 16:56, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves a écrit : I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet controller and a 7 segment display would cost so much to manufacture... I think I'll build my own. One advantage of having an OS and NTP client on board is that you get

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you go with the Pi's I2C port, it's strictly a 3.3 volt port. Some (but not all) of the display boards are 5V gizmos. If you go with a WiFi approach, be careful about latency. NTP only understands symmetric delays. Of course if you are on a cable modem there's noting in the WiFi

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Albertson
One more idea: Buy one of those Atomic Clocks that run off WWVB. Then use time code to modulate a very low power 60KHz radio transmitter. The clocks will pick up your signal and sync to it.The clocks run on battery power and you don't need wires. But then I did notice you can buy exactly

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Is there a price shown somewhere on that sheet? Bob On May 27, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: One more idea: Buy one of those Atomic Clocks that run off WWVB. Then use time code to modulate a very low power 60KHz radio transmitter. The clocks will

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Paul
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Miguel wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows about a not so expensive wall digital clock that gets its time from an NTP server... I wrote Symmetricom about their $99 deal but I didn't hear back. Of course the wall mount digital is kind of long. The analog

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Graham / KE9H
Miguel: If you are going to build your own, I would recommend you start with something like the Microchip PIC32 Ethernet Starter Kit. Comes with a free GCC C/C++ compiler and an Ethernet stack. I happened to have one for another project, that already had a four line serial LCD display hooked to

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi SNTP probably is ok if you are running against an NTP server hardwired on a local LAN. Running it through a home modem and out onto the internet likely isn't going to be as good as a full blown NTP stack. You could quite easily get enough lag / delay to get into the ~ 100 to 200 ms region

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Hal Murray
li...@rtty.us said: Is there a price shown somewhere on that sheet? I didn't see any prices on the data sheet, but there was a previous message that said: xne...@luna.dyndns.dk said: This was posted to the group @21-05

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread DaveH
And don't get me started on Unix timekeeping... Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Graham / KE9H Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:34 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Kenton A. Hoover
A useful reference to own: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0521702380/ref=mw_dp_sim_ss1?pi=SL500_SY125 -- Kenton A. Hoover ken...@nemersonhoover.org +14158305843 On Monday, May 27, 2013 at 11:59, DaveH wrote: And don't get me started on Unix timekeeping... Dave -Original

[time-nuts] DMTD questions

2013-05-27 Thread Robert Darby
Some time back I purchased from Stanley Reynolds the necessary boards for the Riley DMTD. I'm now looking at what's necessary to build out these boards and the Mini Circuits parts are far and away the most expensive parts, due principally to the 10 part minimum on several of the items. I'm

Re: [time-nuts] FLUKE PM6680B Counter Time View software for the PC

2013-05-27 Thread Azelio Boriani
As you can read here: http://www.ke5fx.com/timelab/readme.htm on version 1.010 as of March 2012 the support for the PM6680 was added, so you don't need to use talk-only mode. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Can anyone point me to a source for the

[time-nuts] Symmetricom TimeSource 3500

2013-05-27 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow Time Techies, I just put a 'Tech Special' Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 up on That E-Place site. Item 151053082201 I hope one of the list members gets it. It needs more TLC than I can spare. Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner Head

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Graham / KE9H
On 5/27/2013 2:40 PM, Kenton A. Hoover wrote: A useful reference to own: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0521702380/ref=mw_dp_sim_ss1?pi=SL500_SY125 -- Kenton A. Hoover ken...@nemersonhoover.org +14158305843 Kenton: Thanks. I ordered from Amazon. --- Graham ==

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I was trying to avoid the whole give them your life's history thing to look at a price sheet. Often I find that the $99 special is something like a CD with the standard NTP distribution on it …. Bob On May 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: li...@rtty.us

[time-nuts] PICAXE, anyone? - [was: Good (cheap) PIC]

2013-05-27 Thread Flemming Larsen
I am planning to use a PICAXE 14M2 to replace about four ICs and about a dozen passive components in a time related project, but I am having problems even getting started with the programming part, since I haven't done much programming since the CDP1802 and Cosmac VIP days. Anyone on the list

Re: [time-nuts] PICAXE, anyone? - [was: Good (cheap) PIC]

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Albertson
The first step is NOT to try and write the final program. Get the picaxe to blink an LED first. Use a solderless breadboard to hold the LED and related parts. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Flemming Larsen oz...@yahoo.dk wrote: I am planning to use a PICAXE 14M2 to replace about four ICs

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for datasheet for Oscilloquartz 8602

2013-05-27 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, On Sun, 26 May 2013 18:15:22 +0200 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: The OSA 8602 is a variant of the OSA 8600 and 8601. These variants is mainly on the connection on the front. I don't have a 8602 datasheet as such, but I have some 8602 related specs as found in