[time-nuts] frequency comparator reading question

2014-02-26 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
excursion? 100 seconds? Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A position

2014-01-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
I copied this message to this thread as it may some bearing on the Thermal Capacitance, resistance etc. discussion. Sorry if you already saw this, if not see below. PauLC W1VLF Hey All, I recently came into a few CO clock modules made by Symmetricom, Austron, etc. These were Stratum 3E

Re: [time-nuts] TimeLab and the Adev plot

2014-01-29 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
. Was your sample rate on these 100 per sec? Thanks Tom Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A position

2014-01-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
--12 Can you mention the size of the aluminum box you are using to add thermal capacitance? I am very interested to try and improve my results Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power

[time-nuts] TimeLab and the Adev plot

2014-01-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
that would be great. I have found several resources that describe the math behind this reading but I have yet to really understand it. Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power

[time-nuts] Trouble with Timelab and HP-5370B

2014-01-21 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
. But no luck on that. The HP5370B is on, counting 10 MHz on start and stop inputs Function ---TI Statistics ---Mean Sample size 1 Arming -T1 only Start and Stop Lights flashing I am sure this is a fundamental problem but it eludes me. Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo

Re: [time-nuts] Trouble with Timelab and HP-5370B

2014-01-21 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Frank, I appreciate the reply. The version of TimeLab that I am using is latest I guess based on the info in the help box. But I was running TimeLab with this same Prologix converter a couple years ago. Maybe I need to find an old version of TimeLab. I didn't realize there was a

[time-nuts] Oscillator items for sale OCXO

2012-10-11 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks, I have for sale 2 Vectron Model 204-888 OCXO's 5 MHzSquare can and uses an SMA output connector These 2 were used as the reference oscillators in a 14 Ghz satellite uplink. Best offer plus shipping. I will offer other oscillators both OCXO and rubidium I have if there are

[time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
like to fire this up, but not burn it up. Any ideas? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years

Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hi Bob, Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out. But I don’t want to chance it till I know for sure what the power requirements are. Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer

[time-nuts] PCMCIA GPIB Board and cable FS

2011-12-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Folks, I have a National Instruments PCMCIA GPIB card that I have been using with TimeLab on my ACER laptop. With the addition of the Prologix USP/GPIB I no longer need the PCMCIA. Drivers are free down load on the NI site. Let me know if there is any interest. PauLC W1VLF

Re: [time-nuts] PCMCIA GPIB Board and cable FS

2011-12-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks, The PCMCIA Board has been sold . Thank you to all that responed. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message

[time-nuts] SOLD PCMCIA GPIB Board and cable FS Sold

2011-12-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks, The PCMCIA Board has been sold . Thank you to all that responed. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] PCMCIA GPIB Board and cable FS

2011-12-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hi Ya Stan, Me too that's the intention anyway I may have another card here somewhere. How are things on Cape Cod these days.? Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons

[time-nuts] FS Z3801A

2011-11-18 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Folks, I have a Z3801A for sale. I have been using this for a few years and just recently turned it down. Flawless operation from the time is was first turned on. This unit is manufactured by HP in the USA serial # 3542A04971 Smart clock in hold over. 38-36 Volts. Is anyone interested before I

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-10 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked Gpib interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions There is always help to had here and I appreciate being able to ask questions Thank you again, Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http

[time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. Maybe someone is looking for a trade for the PCMCIA GPIB Card and cable? Thank you for the help Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting

[time-nuts] Sorry wrong title on previous message.

2011-10-04 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
over the course of a few hours. Anyway I am rambling Is there a meter or phase scope in TL that I am missing? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over

[time-nuts] 1 PPS from Z3801A Does it need conditioning.

2011-09-21 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
inside db 25 shell? Or maybe there is a different approach? I am using a shielded coax to transport the 1 PPS but at the 5370 of course it is grounded but not at the z3801a Thank you for the help Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered

Re: [time-nuts] 1 PPS from Z3801A Does it need conditioning.

2011-09-21 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
John, DC, Positive slope, control set to approx. midpoint. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Miles Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:48 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject:

[time-nuts] OCXO and Aging

2011-09-14 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
that might have the most hours on it? I have a Rakon Double Oven OCXO right now but there seems to be a few made by Oscilloquartz that look pretty good. However I don't see any OCXO's that use a Dewar like the FTS unit I had... Do they show up from time to time? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and Aging

2011-09-14 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
comparisons can be made. Thank you Will, Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Time is relative Abert Einstien circa 1950 Relatives use up all my time Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO settling

2011-09-14 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
be a good compromise? Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Time is relative Abert Einstien circa 1950 Relatives use up all my time Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO settling my goals

2011-09-14 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
to listen more, and ask fewer questions. Sorry for the long post. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message- From: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO settling my goals What I do have

2011-09-14 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paul A. Cianciolo Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:23 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OCXO settling my goals Murray, You hit the nail right

[time-nuts] Pulse width for start signal for HP5370

2011-09-03 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
and the level light stays on, to far CCW and the level light goes. There is some range but not a lot. Does seem normal to you folks? Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Time is relative Abert Einstien circa 1950 Relatives use up all my time Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983

Re: [time-nuts] Question for any HP105 owners

2011-08-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
-11 @ 1sec 4.01 x 10 -12 @ 10 sec. 9.60 x 10 -13 @ 100 sec. This oscillator has been running now for barely 20 hours. The z3801a has been running for about a year Am I doing something wrong? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network

Re: [time-nuts] Question for any HP105 owners

2011-08-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
period of time than that. Both tests ended up with 3600 points total and appeared to take 6 minutes. I didn't even notice this till you said something Bob. Thank you More learning to make legitimate test . Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Time is relative Abert Einstien

Re: [time-nuts] Question for any HP105 owners HP5370 Settings

2011-08-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
for any help. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Time is relative Abert Einstien circa 1950 Relatives use up all my time Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John

Re: [time-nuts] Question for any HP105 owners HP5370 Settings

2011-08-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320751663786 Do you think this will work? Some day when you have some free time, perhaps we could have a phone call or SKYPE if you use that and discuss 1 or 2 of these issues Thank you again Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business

Re: [time-nuts] any HP 5370B Available or other TIC

2011-08-23 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
the larger picture and more about the DMTD system you mention. Thank you Bert. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message

[time-nuts] Another question about PHASE and DMTD

2011-08-23 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
be too high to make something like this worth while. And the only advantage I can see does really not needing an offset LO... I guess I am just living in the analog domain... Edges are probably far easier to count and more reliable. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our

[time-nuts] Poor Mans ADEV Chart... Very Poor man

2011-08-17 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
again This is the graph that was created. http://www.rescueelectronics.com/FREQUENCY.html Look at the bottom of the page and click on the thumbnail This is my first attempt at the Poor Man's ADEV chart. Critiques of all kinds are welcome please!! Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http

Re: [time-nuts] Poor Mans ADEV Chart... Very Poor man

2011-08-17 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
No Sorry there is a pair of Spectracom 8140's one on each channel. 10 Mhz in = .1 , 1, 5, 10, Mhz out. I am using 5 Mhz... Thanks Dick... Knew I would forget something. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar

Re: [time-nuts] frequency stabilty question

2011-08-15 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
. Or use a group of readings as in your Chart. Thank you Tom, Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message- From: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] frequency stabilty question

2011-08-15 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Magnus, Now that I have a basic understanding, the way you explained seems just rite. My lack of even a basic understanding is what led to the confusion. Sorry if I caused you any trouble. I am going to go back and read the article again. Thank you Magnus Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http

[time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
for aesthetics alone? Bummed Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Paul I was hoping for the magic fix I don't suppose erasing the 0003 will change the frequency. Here is the manual. http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/support/ttm/product-manual/man-1050a. pdf What pix di you want to see? Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
an auction site several months ago. It's stability seems to be getting better and better every month. --- On Tue, 8/9/11, Paul A. Cianciolo pa...@snet.net wrote: From: Paul A. Cianciolo pa...@snet.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do?? To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Murray, Thank you for the idea. I do like the idea of leaving the 1050 completely stock with the exception of adding a DDS size board. What about the programming to say give a 5 or 10 MHz output from an odd clock frequency. Where did you get your DDS kit and who did the programming? Paul

[time-nuts] Wenzel oscillator pin out?

2011-08-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
to pop something inside. There is no SMA output Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel oscillator pin out?

2011-08-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Thank you John, I will do that I think it was out of Datum GPS/LORAN primary reference. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Miles Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:40 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and

[time-nuts] Observations and opinions needed on graph by new nut

2011-08-03 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
to this I would like to make sure I am not going off on a false path. Thank you PauLC W1VLF Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years

Re: [time-nuts] Observations and opinions needed on graph by new nut

2011-08-03 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
. Maybe I will make a 24 hour run and see it the direction switches are still occurring. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] Observations and opinions needed on graph by new nut

2011-08-03 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
the 3801? Are you speaking of something like SatStat? I really should look into that. Thank you for the suggestion. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20

Re: [time-nuts] Observations and opinions needed on graph by new nut

2011-08-03 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
at it and validate my assumptions? Being new to this I would like to make sure I am not going off on a false path. Thank you PauLC W1VLF Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone know of a frequency comparator module or kit?

2011-07-30 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello David, Thank you for the idea, I had not heard of the gentleman you mentioned. The page is quite interesting. Currently I am using 2 of the Spectracom 8140's to do the dividing. But that board looks very inviting. That will get some serious thought. Thank you again Paul A. Cianciolo

[time-nuts] Anyone know of a frequency comparator module or kit?

2011-07-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
and it will output an analog voltage? I want to take some oscillators( 5 10 Mhz ) and do some experiments, IE: insulation, increasing the mass second ovens and such, then log the results. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our

[time-nuts] Spectracom 8170 Receiver Trouble Requesting help please

2011-05-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
on the A2 board has been adjusted. I think this is carrier null. Power supplies are all within .1 volts of 12vdc -12vdc and 5 VDC. Looking for some direction from owners of this RX. Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8170 Receiver Trouble Requesting help please

2011-05-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
100 of these over the years and they are in use on many different receivers. I don't a lot about these IQ detectors and I believe the problem may be in one of those. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind