Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Thunderbolt antenna advice sought.

2015-05-04 Thread d0ct0r
I am using hp58516a distribution amplifier. Trimble active antenna, Trimble TB and BC637PCI constantly connected to that unit. And time to time I connecting some DUT and GPS modules to it. It works for me. Regards, V.P. On 2015-05-04 08:18, Oghma wrote: Hi, all I've only recently joined

Re: [time-nuts] DDS, OCXO and ADEV

2015-05-03 Thread d0ct0r
(and it’s in 100’s of ns) or you have it set to frequency mode and have a very stable system. Bob On May 2, 2015, at 9:53 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: Hello, I would like to create some charts for ADEV for following setup: HP5386A counter connected to External REF. (OCXO). The input of counter

[time-nuts] DDS, OCXO and ADEV

2015-05-02 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I would like to create some charts for ADEV for following setup: HP5386A counter connected to External REF. (OCXO). The input of counter connected to my DDS VFO. The frequency on VFO is 2853000 Hz. Here is what I got from counter via GPIB: S +3.505082408E-7 S +3.505082408E-7 S

Re: [time-nuts] Once again about counter calibration

2015-04-25 Thread d0ct0r
the PPS into the scope trigger on step 2. The low repetition rate on the PPS would make this difficult on an analog scope; on a digital scope it is easy. You can use any sub-harmonic that is less than or equal the counter reference frequency (10 MHz). Brent On 4/24/2015 3:45 PM, d0ct0r wrote

[time-nuts] Once again about counter calibration

2015-04-24 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, The input: HP 5386A which I would like to calibrate, Well warmed Tremble Thunderbolt (1PPS only), 10 Mhz Datum OCXO (unknown accuracy), Rigol 1101E Oscilloscope. The goal is to calibrate counter to read the Datum OCXO. === Reading the manual for 5386A,

Re: [time-nuts] Once again about counter calibration

2015-04-24 Thread d0ct0r
connector to patch the 10 MHz to two places at once? Bob On Friday, April 24, 2015 5:06 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: Hello, The input: HP 5386A which I would like to calibrate, Well warmed Tremble Thunderbolt (1PPS only), 10 Mhz Datum OCXO (unknown accuracy), Rigol 1101E Oscilloscope

Re: [time-nuts] Once again about counter calibration

2015-04-24 Thread d0ct0r
Following my request, I am curious about modding of HP 5386A. My unit has TCXO. Is it possible to replace that existed TCXO by third part OCXO ? Like Morion MV89A, for example ? -- WBW, V.P. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

[time-nuts] Visual clock comparison

2015-04-17 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, Netizens ! I am wandering what is the average human ability to visually compare two clocks ? Let say I have XClock application running on one machine (stratum 1 NTP) and I have my project clock close by. And I would like to match the reading. If I'll see the difference, which range it

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt question, splitting its output.

2015-03-29 Thread d0ct0r
In my project, I was using LT6957 to share 10Mhz from my TBolt. It was perfectly fine for my setup. I split 10Mhz to feed the clock of MCU and second output was connected to DDS block (AD 9852). Regards, Vlad On , Chris Wilson wrote: 27/03/2015 17:14 My T/Thunderbolt has operated

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, That Q1 is MAV1-0104 made by Mini-Circuits. This part is exact replacement for the MSA-0104, which was in TenTec kits early. The schematic of that pre-amp is pretty simple: +12 V | [ ] (470 Ohm)

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-12 Thread d0ct0r
Today, I did the check the settings for my BC637 card. I was surprised that its overwrite my manual setting for the Leap Event by following information: Time Settings: Mode : GPS Time Format: Binary Year : 1995

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-09 Thread d0ct0r
Reading about leap seconds for the past two days, I found that common solution for it - just encode leap second event proactively and wait for it. Of course that possible only if device has that option. For example, BC637PCI has a menu item 7. Program Leap Event Seconds. Which I did. Now,

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-09 Thread d0ct0r
This is an issue indeed. Here is what I get from MySQL Data Base support site: Before MySQL 5.0.74, if the operating system is configured to return leap seconds from OS time calls or if the MySQL server uses a time zone definition that has leap seconds, functions such as NOW() could return

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread d0ct0r
Tom, Thanks for the comments ! In my design I am using NMEA as an option to set initial time on the clock. Its just faster and more convenient than doing it manually. And in the other (rare) occasions when clock logic could decide to sync. RTC module time with time received from GPS module.

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread d0ct0r
Tim, I was using perl as a tool to calculate UNIX time. As my project based on STM32 MCU, I have no option to use time libraries. And I dont' think its applcable for my project. I am thinking what exactly of that UNIX time is. Looks like its using simple constants, like we have 86400

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-06 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, As I am in the process of creation of my own Nixie clocks. And it probably good time frame to clarify one thing about leap seconds. In my project I am using GPS module as an option to have current UTC time and also to have 1PPS signal to do auto-adjustment for external RTC module.

[time-nuts] CMOS level difference for LTC6957-3 and AD9852

2014-04-25 Thread d0ct0r
To whom it may concern, here is the note regarding of CMOS level difference for two product AD9852 from AD and LT6957 from Linear. My attempts to feed AD9852 directly from LTC6857-3 has failed. AD9852 just ignored the REFCLOCK signal coming from LTC6957-3. So, I'll need to think about some

Re: [time-nuts] CMOS level difference for LTC6957-3 and AD9852

2014-04-25 Thread d0ct0r
) to the same pin AD9852, its accept that. The chip to heat up and generate IO UPDATE. On the AD9852 evaluation board, AD is using MC100LVEL16 as a level converter. I would like to try that and see how it will be. From: d0ct0r t...@patoka.org To: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] CMOS level difference for LTC6957-3 and AD9852

2014-04-25 Thread d0ct0r
Just to confirm: MC100LVEL16 solved the issue with signal levels. On 2014-04-25 14:54, d0ct0r wrote: AD was comparing apples and oranges. The LTC6957-3 has CMOS outputs, which go from 0.2V to Vdd-0.3V (with a 3mA load). Perhaps they were looking at the LTC6957-1 which is LVPECL and would

Re: [time-nuts] First success with very simple, very low cost GPSDO, under $8

2014-04-21 Thread d0ct0r
. But this may be the case to have something of interest to actually do. In either language. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:27 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: I was experimenting with the same setup for STM32 MCU. This microprocessor has accept the sine wave from external OCXO

Re: [time-nuts] First success with very simple, very low cost GPSDO, under $8

2014-04-14 Thread d0ct0r
I was experimenting with the same setup for STM32 MCU. This microprocessor has accept the sine wave from external OCXO or GPSDO. No problem with this. The only thing: I was need to start MCU from slow watch crystal first. And then switch it to work to external one. In another case I got

Re: [time-nuts] First success with very simple, very low cost GPSDO, under $8

2014-04-10 Thread d0ct0r
I am not sure about Arduino, but probably it too has so-called timer overflow interrupt. If so, then its possible to use that other interrupt and some long (lets say 32-bit) RAM variable to accumulate real value of counter. In one of my project I was using timer overflow and Besier method

Re: [time-nuts] First success with very simple, very low cost GPSDO, under $8

2014-04-10 Thread d0ct0r
carry corruption in the multi-byte value of t_besier. True, this works fine on a 32- or 64-bit cpu, but not on an 8- or 16-bit cpu. Hmm... - Original Message - From: d0ct0r t...@patoka.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] First success

Re: [time-nuts] ARM boards for low-cost GPSDOs

2014-04-10 Thread d0ct0r
The timers are 16-bit but I extend it to 64 bits in software. When the timer rolls over I add 65536 to the software variable mono_epoch. At BTW, its possible to extend timer to 64 bit using special feature of ST32. Its when one timer (master), controlling the other timer(s) (slaves). See

Re: [time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-26 Thread d0ct0r
Thanks ! As soon as I figured out about double DLE bytes - everything is back to right track. Regards, V.P. On 2014-03-26 04:46, Götz Romahn wrote: Am 25.03.2014 22:43, : Today I spent good part of my time to figure out that my version of Thunderbolt has some issue with the TSIP protocol

Re: [time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-26 Thread d0ct0r
: It is work in progress, so not all menu selections actually work) On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:11 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: Much thanks Tom and Mike ! I missed that point. In another word, T-Bolt sending DLE data wrapped by another byte ! Now I know ! On 2014-03-25 19:55, mike cook wrote

[time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-25 Thread d0ct0r
Today I spent good part of my time to figure out that my version of Thunderbolt has some issue with the TSIP protocol definition. I am using following document: ThunderBolt GPS Disciplined Clock User Guide, Version 5.0, Part Number: 35326-30, November 2003 In that particular PDF file, there

Re: [time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-25 Thread d0ct0r
Much thanks Tom and Mike ! I missed that point. In another word, T-Bolt sending DLE data wrapped by another byte ! Now I know ! On 2014-03-25 19:55, mike cook wrote: Le 25 mars 2014 à 22:43, d0ct0r a écrit : Today I spent good part of my time to figure out that my version of Thunderbolt

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supply for AD9852 / AD9854

2014-03-16 Thread d0ct0r
I would assume that using two voltage regulators will spread the load. For the AD9851 I'am planning to put external radiator glued on top of it. Regards, V.P. those parts dissipate a fair amount of heat, and they're not very big. If you turn on everything in the 9854 AND run it at 300

[time-nuts] Power Supply for AD9852 / AD9854

2014-03-15 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, By design, DDS stones like AD9852 from Analog Devices, required separated power lines for AVDD, DVDD and VCC. What will is simple solution for that ? I am planing to use following approach: +5V from linear PS, then three LC filters, then three 3.3V voltage regulators (Ex.: MC33269T)

Re: [time-nuts] Power Supply for AD9852 / AD9854

2014-03-15 Thread d0ct0r
Many thanks indeed for detailed answer ! Yes, I will using Evaluation Board for my project. Regards, V.P. On 2014-03-16 00:06, Charles Steinmetz wrote: By design, DDS stones like AD9852 from Analog Devices, required separated power lines for AVDD, DVDD and VCC. What will is simple

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Counter using OCXO and MCU

2014-03-12 Thread d0ct0r
in a hardware frequency diver as a pre-scaler. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:24 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: Hello, I am experimenting to build frequency counter using external OCXO and ST32 MCU. The OCXO is external DATUM 2750013-1 device which produce 10Mhz sine wave. I connected its output to OC_IN

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Counter using OCXO and MCU

2014-03-12 Thread d0ct0r
frequency diver as a pre-scaler. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:24 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: Hello, I am experimenting to build frequency counter using external OCXO and ST32 MCU. The OCXO is external DATUM 2750013-1 device which produce 10Mhz sine wave. I connected its output to OC_IN on MCU. I

[time-nuts] Frequency Counter using OCXO and MCU

2014-03-11 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I am experimenting to build frequency counter using external OCXO and ST32 MCU. The OCXO is external DATUM 2750013-1 device which produce 10Mhz sine wave. I connected its output to OC_IN on MCU. I have few challenges now. First, looks like I need to create some delay to turn on MCU

[time-nuts] GPSDO module connections

2014-03-03 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I am looking for the advise: what will be the better method to connect GPSDO module by short extension cable to put its antenna input on front or back panel ? Lets say, GPSDO module has female “F” connector. And I would like to have BNC connector on back panel of my project.

Re: [time-nuts] FSCM 38243 Power Distribution Module

2014-03-02 Thread d0ct0r
load, diode and multimeter as indication if you don't have an accurate power meter. Or if you ship it to me I can stick it on a VNA and give you exact specs. HTH Robert G8RPI. - FROM: d0ct0r t...@patoka.org TO: time-nuts@febo.com SENT: Sunday, 2 March 2014, 5:54

Re: [time-nuts] DS3231m 1HZ output stability

2014-02-26 Thread d0ct0r
Do you have a scope? Any overshoot/bounce crap? (Not likely with low power CMOS.) Attached is screenshot from USB-based scope. I'll going to switch wires to see any difference. -- WBW, V.P.attachment: gps2rtc.PNG___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] DS3231m 1HZ output stability

2014-02-26 Thread d0ct0r
To answering myself: I think nothing wrong with DS32XX. I hooked up GPS 1PPS output to the same timer (different channel) where I have 1PPS from RTC. Now I see something like this. # Delta GPS: 7330, Delta RTC: 7330 # Delta GPS: 7330, Delta RTC: 7329 # Delta GPS: 7330, Delta RTC: 7329 #

Re: [time-nuts] Serial port splitter s/w

2014-02-26 Thread d0ct0r
Here is interesting topic about NTP on Raspberry PI (typical usage of ARM and Linux bread on top of it) http://www.synclab.org/?tag=testing Basically, TCP stack on ARM usually come from one source - its a Adam Dunken TCP stack. Then its is MII part and the hardware which doing Ethernet.

[time-nuts] DS3231m 1HZ output stability

2014-02-25 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I am experimenting to compare 1PPS outputs from Dallas/Maxim DS3231m chip and 1PPS output from generic GPS module. I attached both signal to MCU timers with free run counters and measure the interval between of raising edges. Here is the typical results: # Delta GPS: 3659, Delta

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB antennas

2014-02-21 Thread d0ct0r
I am impressed by Casio engineers who created tiny antenna for my wrist watch. I don't know how, but that Pathfinder able to catch and decode 60 khz wwvb in noisy city environment. And it did even better when i was 500 km north ! :40, Alexander Pummer wrote: here are the other 60kHz

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers

2014-02-20 Thread d0ct0r
Its still interesting to read an article from Radio-Electronics Magazine with date stamp back to August 1973. In that article Don Lancaster explain few classical techniques how to handle WWVB band. Regards, V.P. On 2014-02-20 20:42, Clint Turner wrote: Several years ago I spotted a clever

[time-nuts] Maxim DS3232 and I2C

2014-02-15 Thread d0ct0r
I would like to ask an advise for following: Lets say I have a DS3232 RTC connected by I2C to some MCU. The maximum allowed I2C bus speed is 400KHZ. And I need to read time (HH:MM:SS) from it. It will be THREE SEPARATE REQUESTS for each part (hours, minutes and seconds). My concern: what if I

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS3232 and I2C

2014-02-15 Thread d0ct0r
if you are so unlucky to read the time just before the seconds flip over and as I said, you detect a second flip by reading twice. But it appearts this chip is more sophisticated and has buffers On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:20 PM, d0ct0r t...@patoka.org wrote: I would like to ask an advise

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-13 Thread d0ct0r
I modified two things for now. Its a demo software (Linux edition). And refclock_banncom driver for NTP. Personally, I would prefer to modify microcode or library. But that is proprietary with no source code around. Regards, V.P. On 2014-02-13 10:46, gandal...@aol.com wrote: You've lost

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-11 Thread d0ct0r
I figured out why GPS FW information was not available by request. To do such requests BC637PCI needs to be in GPS MODE. If I run the request in Free Run, it return the error code. Here is FW infomation from my GPS module: GPS Packet Menu 1. Request Packet 41 - Gps Time Packet 2. Request

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-11 Thread d0ct0r
Sorry for confusing information. I have some small Trimble antenna which currently connected to BC637PCI. However I never get it locked with that antenna: GPS PACKET 46 - GPS HEALTH PACKET Status: No usable satellites Error: 63 Binary Time: 02/11/2014 17:28:40.0572284 Status: 7 Binary

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-11 Thread d0ct0r
You are right ! Now I am going to modify the code a lit bit. Each time as we call bcReadBinTimeEx or bcReadBinTime, we need to add magic number to unsigned long pointer which store major time. Example: if (bcReadBinTime(stfp_handle, btm[1], btm[0], stat ) == 0) {

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-09 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I'll be glad to check my GPS module to see what is going on there, however I am still waiting for the GPS antenna to be delivered. I tried to use some small form factor Trimple GPS antenna with BC637, but on-board GPS module couldn't lock with it. So, my BC637 is working in freerun

[time-nuts] TARP TADD-3 and T-BOLT

2014-02-09 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, I have a quick question about TADD-3 Pulse-per-Second Distribution Amplifier. Does anybody tried to use TADD-3 with Trimble T-Bolt in the configuration, when its using 1PPS and 10MHZ as TADD-3 inputs. The idea is to use TADD-3 to share BOTH t-bolt frequency outputs. Thanks ! -- WBW,

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI 1024 week rollover

2014-02-09 Thread d0ct0r
I found the document about Trimble ACE3 module: http://www.symres.com/files/ACE3.pdf Here is the paragraph about WNRO: Effect of GPS Week Number Roll-over (WNRO) The ACE III GPS module has been designed to handle WNRO, and there are no

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-07 Thread d0ct0r
On 2014-02-07 03:00, mike cook wrote: Le 7 févr. 2014 à 00:18, d0ct0r a écrit : Hello, Does anybody seen any links to the information how to implement external OCXO to Symmetricom PCI TFP BC635/BC637 ? check the Symmetricom datasheets. You don't mention the version you are needing info

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-07 Thread d0ct0r
Great ! Super ! Thanks a LOT ! Also, Symmetricom shared the resource for the latest version of that driver [BCPCI-V830 build 120]. http://www.symmetricom.com/bus-level-timing-sdk-and-driver-downloads/ I tried that on Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS x86_64, kernel 3.2.0-58-generic. And its works for

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-07 Thread d0ct0r
, d0ct0r a écrit : Hello, Does anybody seen any links to the information how to implement external OCXO to Symmetricom PCI TFP BC635/BC637 ? check the Symmetricom datasheets. You don't mention the version you are needing info for , IRIG/GPS.. Anyway, all that I glanced at show an Exr

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-07 Thread d0ct0r
Thanks everybody for the bit of information ! I have a Revsion C and Revision K manuals. In Revison K its only one note about OCXO: An internal 10 MHz VCXO (Voltage Controlled Crystal Oscillator) is disciplined to the reference source. The VCXO output drives all timing functions on the

Re: [time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-07 Thread d0ct0r
that card as a source of 1PPS and 10MHZ - not to feed it from another reference. I though it is possible to do some modding to replace VCXO by OCXO. PCI Board Revision ID : 18 (0x12), Firmware Version : DT10041V11 On 2014-02-07 03:00, mike cook wrote: Le 7 févr. 2014 à 00:18, d0ct0r

[time-nuts] BC637PCI and OCXO

2014-02-06 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, Does anybody seen any links to the information how to implement external OCXO to Symmetricom PCI TFP BC635/BC637 ? -- WBW, V.P. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to