Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
And try to put the unused I/O pins to GND too. Xilinx suggests, to reduce noise, to ground the FPGA using as more free I/O pins as possible and configure them as low logic level. Of course this trick does apply to other brands too. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > * Connect

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-08 Thread Hal Murray
> * Connect all free pins of the FPGA to a 2.54mm header pin connector Don't go overboard on the "all" if that makes a mess of the routing or layout. Be sure to put "enough" ground pins on the header(s). Power too. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. __

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
> http://kom.aau.dk/~borre/easy2/ Oops, sorry, that was for the previous book. For the software-receiver book, you want this page: http://kom.aau.dk/project/softgps/ I'm not sure the source code is in the demo CD image, though (the "GPS SDR demo" link). Cheers, Peter _

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:24:12 -0700 Peter Monta wrote: > Hi Attila, > > > Could you also add just the option of a power splitter at the input? > > I'm not really sure what the most appropriate RF interface is. I was > planning to make another much simpler board with just a bias tee, a > 3:1 spli

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:08:24 -0700 Peter Monta wrote: > I was thinking to do a resistor-programmable option to either use the > 10 MHz or the TCXO as input to the LMK03806. I'm not sure there's a > huge advantage to using a more stable clock, though. The TCXO is > probably plenty good enough for

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
> [ Borre GPS book ] > > However, it does not appear that they let me download the > matlab code that comes on the CD that comes with the book. do you know > if it's available somewhere? I think it's here: http://kom.aau.dk/~borre/easy2/ The last entry, the zip file, looks to be the most recent.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
Hi Attila, > Could you also add just the option of a power splitter at the input? I'm not really sure what the most appropriate RF interface is. I was planning to make another much simpler board with just a bias tee, a 3:1 splitter, and some hairpin microstrip filters. Then it would be three sh

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
Oops, sorry, hit the send button too soon. Another nice book on GPS signal processing is the one by James Tsui, _Fundamentals of Global Positioning Receivers: A Software Approach_. I learned a lot from it. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- ti

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Eric Garner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: >> On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:40:48 -0400 >> Michael Tharp wrote: >> >>> On 06/05/2012 03:31 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: >>> > * The XC6SLX9 is<10USD more expensive than the SLX6. I think the adde

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
Hi Attila, > * Connect all free pins of the FPGA to a 2.54mm header pin connector >  This would make extensions to the system a lot simpler. >  Up to the point of using a simple uC board for a full fledged >  GPSDO system. Additonally put onto this connecter an unused output >  of the LMK03806 and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Eric Garner
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:40:48 -0400 > Michael Tharp wrote: > >> On 06/05/2012 03:31 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: >> > * The XC6SLX9 is<10USD more expensive than the SLX6. I think the added >> >    value of having twice as much "real estate" would

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Monta
Hi Michael, > What is the function of the clock/PPS inputs? They could be used to compare a master station clock with the GPS signals. It seems like a good idea to put the clock and PPS through the same path as the satellite signals. The goal was to permit a good comparison between GPS and any

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:31:32 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > I had a cursory look at the schematics and i would propose the following > changes: > Addendum: Could you also add just the option of a power splitter at the input? This would allow to use one antenna while using a cheaper SMB mounted p

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:40:48 -0400 Michael Tharp wrote: > On 06/05/2012 03:31 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > * The XC6SLX9 is<10USD more expensive than the SLX6. I think the added > >value of having twice as much "real estate" would justify the additional > >price. > > Some vendors don't e

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:48:17 -0400 Michael Tharp wrote: > Disclaimer: I know very little about actually implementing a GPS > receiver, and about RF in general, but I know a cool project when I see > one and this has a lot of the elements needed for a fully open-source > timing receiver. Lookin

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Tharp
On 06/05/2012 03:31 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: * The XC6SLX9 is<10USD more expensive than the SLX6. I think the added value of having twice as much "real estate" would justify the additional price. Some vendors don't even stock the SLX6, including Digi-Key! Agreed though, it would be neat

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:03:53 -0700 Peter Monta wrote: > o far I have a prototype board outputting bits from which GPS signals > on L1 and L2 have been successfully acquired and tracked. Next steps > are to play with acquiring some GPS L5, Glonass, and Galileo signals, > and to apply some minor cl

Re: [time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Tharp
On 06/05/2012 11:03 AM, Peter Monta wrote: I've been working on a front-end board suitable for GPS and other GNSS systems. It might be of interest to time-nuts given the application to timing receivers. Very impressive. Since I discovered time-nuts this is exactly what I wanted to make, and y

[time-nuts] GPS / GNSS front-end board

2012-06-05 Thread Peter Monta
I've been working on a front-end board suitable for GPS and other GNSS systems. It might be of interest to time-nuts given the application to timing receivers. Goals for the project: - high-quality signals from all current and near-future GNSS systems (GPS, Glonass, Galileo, Compass) - wide ban