Re: [time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-18 Thread Hal Murray
manu...@artekmanuals.com said: > Serial prefix is 3517Ax Mine is 3542Ax Many years ago, I was bringing up one with the date was wrong. It took me a few tries to get it to work. I think the trick was to set the date before it had discovered any satellites and gotten confused by

Re: [time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-17 Thread Azelio Boriani
Welcome, you hit the usual GPS week rollover issue, see these: No impact on the 10MHz/PPS accuracy. No command can correct the rollover, I seem to remember that if you set the date

Re: [time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jan 17, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Artek Manuals wrote: > > Hi guys > > Dave at ArtekManuals.com here. Long time electronics enthusiast/tinkerer/ ham > radio op. > Recently moved and am in the process of setting up my long dreamed of a > planned electronics lab and

Re: [time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-17 Thread cfo
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:59:22 -0500, Artek Manuals wrote: > Finally I am sure that the above have been addressed on older posts, but > I gave up searching in frustration. Is there an easy way to search the > ENTIRE list archive. It seems that the archives must be queried one > month at time which

Re: [time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-17 Thread paul swed
Dave Welcome to the group and have always appreciated the help from Artek. If only frequency no need to care about the date. I learned this from fellow time nuts. Yes I also hate 1996. Now I think there are later software releases. I haven't had my 3801 on for a bit as I discovered that I actually

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-17 Thread jimlux
On 1/16/16 4:29 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: Right now I'm mostly aligning IF stages of boat anchor rigs, An inexpensive eval board with a synthesizer chip might work for this, like the Si570. Aligning the IF doesn't require great phase noise performance. this is probably a <$50 solution.

[time-nuts] New Member / Z3801

2016-01-17 Thread Artek Manuals
Hi guys Dave at ArtekManuals.com here. Long time electronics enthusiast/tinkerer/ ham radio op. Recently moved and am in the process of setting up my long dreamed of a planned electronics lab and radio shack (NR1DX). At the heart of the lab is a HP Z3801 GPSDO to provide an external 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > > Right now I'm mostly aligning IF stages of boat anchor rigs, not designing new > stuff or trying to evaluate performance of newer rigs, so I think the 8660 > will > do the job until I can afford something better.

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-16 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/14/2016 12:35 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: What does the group think of the HP 8660? Just scored a broken one too cheap to pass up. I know it's not gonna be the last signal generator I buy, but for under $100 shipped it should be an interesting project. Nathan KK4REY When I worked at HP,

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-16 Thread Rob Sherwood .
I did some interpolation to compare the specs for phase noise of the 8660 the way it was done then to the present method. I think it is going to be something like -105 dBc/Hz to -110 dBc/Hz at 10 kHz offset at 14 MHz carrier frequency. As a comparison, the 8662A is about -135 dBc/Hz and the

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-15 Thread Scott McGrath
a Ref0 needs an arduino and a good GPS 1 PPS. >>>>>> Though frankly even neo6s play well. >>>>>> If a Ref1 it has a GPS in and no need for the arduino. The $175 gets >>> you a >>>>>> ref1 and ref0 combo that tie together usually wit

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread paul swed
t; >>> with the units. > > >>> Mine were brand spanking new. NOS. > > >>> Good luck. > > >>> To Ron o yes no shed or anything but the gear builds up. Darn > > thing is > > >>> this stuff actually last longer then an iPhone99

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread Nathan Johnson
o yes no shed or anything but the gear builds up. Darn > thing is > >>> this stuff actually last longer then an iPhone99X due out tomorrow I am > >>> sure. > >>> Paul > >>> WB8TSL > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 a

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread Rob Sherwood .
>> Mine were brand spanking new. NOS. >>>>> Good luck. >>>>> To Ron o yes no shed or anything but the gear builds up. Darn >> thing is >>>>> this stuff actually last longer then an iPhone99X due out tomorrow I am >>>>> su

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Rob Sherwood .
n an iPhone99X due out tomorrow I am >>> sure. >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Rob Sherwood. <r...@nc0b.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Paul, >>>> >>>> Your last paragraph was a hoot. A ha

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread paul swed
an iPhone99X due out tomorrow I am > >>> sure. > >>> Paul > >>> WB8TSL > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Rob Sherwood. <r...@nc0b.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Paul, > >>>> > &g

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Rob Sherwood .
have four storage units to store all his "stuff". The >> disease is not curable with either time or antibiotics. >> >> My XYL will have to deal with two homes with labs and ham shacks, 7 >> towers, 13 yagis, etc. when I am SK. Need I say more. >> >

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread paul swed
K. Need I say more. > > > > Rob > > NC0B > > > > -Original Message- > > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul > swed > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency me

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Nathan Johnson
7 > towers, 13 yagis, etc. when I am SK. Need I say more. > > Rob > NC0B > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measur

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Ian Stirling
On 01/10/2016 01:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: Pretty sure this is where I want to go. I'm looking at Item# 231803015799 on the usual auction site, and this seems to be everything I need? I also looked at item# 111514491254 Nathan, I have an NTBW50AA. It can be monitored and controlled by

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread bownes
rented a >>> storage shed to keep all his spare test equipment and parts units. Another >>> ham friend used to have four storage units to store all his "stuff". The >>> disease is not curable with either time or antibiotics. >>> >>> My XYL will have to d

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Don Latham
s [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions > > > > Nathan, > Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread paul swed
- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions > > > > Nathan, > Bob shared a link f

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Lizeth Norman
Spend reasonable money. Learn, ask questions, rinse and repeat. It's how a mountain of stuff followed me home. Wife is cool with it. Electrical fires are a learning experience. Try not to repeat those. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > Hello All, > I'm a

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread paul swed
Nathan, Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a great amount of detail has been shared on Time-nuts about them. They will do what you want. The Ref0 requires a external GPS receiver and another Time-Nuts Arduino. It works really well and the quality of the ref0 seems to be that of the 1pps

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Rob Sherwood .
- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Johnson Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:26 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions Hello All, I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for many more. I have

[time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Nathan Johnson
Hello All, I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for many more. I have been reading the archives and trying to learn a bit. I am wanting to develop an accurate frequency standard for "lab" and radio use. I see that I have 3 basic options that are possible on my

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jan 10, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > > Hello All, > I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for many > more. I have been reading the archives and trying to learn a bit. I am wanting > to develop an accurate frequency standard

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Rob Sherwood .
ecise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions Nathan, Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a great amount of detail has been shared on Time-nuts about them. They will do what you want. The Ref0 requires a external GPS receiver and another

Re: [time-nuts] New Member

2013-09-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The power input is fully isolated from the case. That's typical telecom practice. In addition it's run through a full wave bridge, so polarity (and wiring errors) are not as big a deal. You *could* run one off of +/- 12 volts. Anything between about 22 volts and 56 volts will run the unit.

[time-nuts] New Member

2013-09-02 Thread quartz55
New guy here, old to radio. Just purchased a Nortel NTBW50AA and antenna from the guy in CO for what I thought was a good price. All I'm interested in is a solid 10MHz signal to lock things in the shack to. Recently purchased a XRef-VS from VK3HZ, haven't gotten either yet. Also have a LPRO

Re: [time-nuts] New Member

2013-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Since it's 24 to 48 volts, there are a lot of things that run off that sort of power. The auction sites are full of various switchers that will work. Often a big one isn't much more than a small one. The Meanwell's seem to be pretty good (I may have that spelled wrong). Bob On Sep 2,

[time-nuts] New Member

2013-09-02 Thread quartz55
That's +24 VDC 'or' -48 VDC. Nothing in between. I have a hard time in ebay searching for things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] New Member

2013-09-02 Thread Tom Miller
-/121105260543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c326f9fff#ht_361wt_911 etc... - Original Message - From: quartz55 quart...@hughes.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [time-nuts] New Member That's +24 VDC 'or' -48 VDC. Nothing in between. I

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:20 AM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: From: Chris Albertson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:55 PM [] Power is a bigger issue. It really does cost a bit to keep some machines owered up 24x7 and NTP needs to run all the time. It takes NTP

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread Azelio Boriani
Welcome aboard, I think that the first move is to acquire the reference: a TBolt is the best, I have a Z3815A too. Then you will need a high resolution time interval counter, unless you focus only on NTP, then only a GPS receiver is needed. The PC is a common tool and usually it is not mentioned:

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/17/12 10:41 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: Regarding the NTP server another option is to buy a stand alone NTP server that can accept a 1pps and or 10 Mhz input, and feed it the GPS or other reference of your chosing. I picked up a Datum unit from ebay which is currently fed 1pps from a

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread J. L. Trantham
: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Frank Hughes Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:12 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo Hi, New guy here, seeking Oracular pronouncements for my time/frequency quest! I

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread David Kirkby
On 18 August 2012 03:32, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Frank Hughes hp_cisco...@yahoo.com wrote: The best OS to use is either BSD or Linux. These have order of magnitude better performance than others for this purpose Do you include Sun

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Albertson
Do you include Sun (now Oracle) Solaris in the list of others? I ask more out of interest than anything else, but a large proportion of the machines here run Solaris. The only two machine that run 24/7, run Solaris. I've got machines here running CentOS Linux, Solaris (SPARC), Solaris

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread David J Taylor
From: Chris Albertson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:55 PM [] Power is a bigger issue. It really does cost a bit to keep some machines owered up 24x7 and NTP needs to run all the time. It takes NTP hours to stabilize and you want to wait 24 hours after to measure performance. [] Chris

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread ken johnson
Again on power consumption, I used to run my web server (ubuntu 10.04lts) on a fanless mini-itx board, about 30 or so watts- now it's on a BeagleBone arm board about the size of a credit card, still running ubuntu , consumption is down to a whole 2 watts. I have it running ntp and serving time to

[time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread Frank Hughes
Hi, New guy here, seeking Oracular pronouncements for my time/frequency quest! I recently acquired an HP 3336B, and subsequently converted it to a C model, as all the HAM and related equipment here is 50 ohms. The 3336 has Option 004: High stability frequency reference.  Operates at about

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Frank Hughes hp_cisco...@yahoo.com wrote: So what I am trying to come up with now for home/shack is: - An NTP server for our LAN - A very high quality 10Mhz source to distribute to all the HP and Agilent equipment here. Here is what I would do again,... 1)

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread Bill Dailey
On a budget get a thunderbolt... If you want plug and play get a Jackson labs Fury. I have my fury hooked up to small Ubuntu box and have a nice ntp server as well as a great reference. Also, read, read, and read some more. Doc KX0O Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Frank

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread Mark Spencer
of precise time     andfrequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo Message-ID: 7216e83f-8aad-403a-8236-dd7d19b26...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii On a budget get a thunderbolt... If you want plug

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread David J Taylor
Hi, New guy here, seeking Oracular pronouncements for my time/frequency quest! [] Anyone ever had a good buying experience for this type of equipent from China? [] So what I am trying to come up with now for home/shack is: - An NTP server for our LAN [] Advice much appreciated! 73 Frank KJ4OLL

[time-nuts] New member, and HP 5061A question

2008-06-16 Thread wje
Although I've scanned the list fairly regularly, I haven't been subscribed. I finally decided to rectify that. I have Z3801 as my workhorse reference. I built a little adapter for it to provide time and 1pps data to NTP running on my Linux system and a buffered 10 Mhz feed to my lab for a

Re: [time-nuts] New member, and HP 5061A question

2008-06-16 Thread WB6BNQ
Bill, The following URL should allow you to search the archives: http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/ BillWB6BNQ wje wrote: Actually, one more question - is there any way to search the list archives? Either I'm blind, or there's not, or it's not obvious. Thanks! -- Bill Ezell

Re: [time-nuts] New member, and HP 5061A question

2008-06-16 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 17/06/2008 00:55:07 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, one more question - is there any way to search the list archives? Either I'm blind, or there's not, or it's not obvious. -- Hi Bill Welcome aboard, and may your time

Re: [time-nuts] New member with an HP5060A

2005-07-18 Thread Joseph Gray
A Google search finds this information: http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/5060A.html - Original Message - From: Micke (ComHem_kort) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:44 Subject: [time-nuts] New member with an HP5060A Hi there, My name

Re: [time-nuts] New member with an HP5060A

2005-07-18 Thread Joseph Gray
This guy sells a manual for $58: http://www.w7fg.com/manuals.php?find=Hpage=11 - Original Message - From: Micke (ComHem_kort) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:44 Subject: [time-nuts] New member with an HP5060A Hi there, My name is Mikael