Re: [time-nuts] Possible HP 10811 instability clue C ont’d.

2010-10-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The tempco gotcha' with the10811 relates to crystal yields. With a true SC, the operating point on the 10811 is very close to the middle of the crystal curve (inflection temperature). You can indeed have a crystal with no turning points (temperature zero TC points). All it has to do is to

[time-nuts] Possible HP 10811 instability clue Cont ’d.

2010-10-07 Thread Perry Sandeen
List, Wrote Some on this list mentioned having had less-than-optimal performance with their HP 10811 series oscillators. James Miller G3RUH made a slight mention of optimizing performance by readjusting the set point temperature in one of his phase detector articles. He said though time

Re: [time-nuts] Possible HP 10811 instability clue Cont ’d.

2010-10-07 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Perry Sandeen wrote: List, WroteSome on this list mentioned having had less-than-optimal performance with their HP 10811 series oscillators. James Miller G3RUH made a slight mention of optimizing performance by readjusting the set point temperature in one of his phase detector articles. He

[time-nuts] Possible HP 10811 instability clue

2010-10-06 Thread Perry Sandeen
Gents, Some on this list mentioned having had less-than-optimal performance with their HP 10811 series oscillators. James Miller G3RUH made a slight mention of optimizing performance by readjusting the set point temperature in one of his phase detector articles. He said though time consuming

Re: [time-nuts] Possible HP 10811 instability clue

2010-10-06 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Regardless of isolated anecdotal data on one oscillator, it is probably not advisable to change the set point. The majority of 10811 crystals do NOT have a turnover, only a region of low tempco around 82 degrees. Instead of that, change the circuit to B-mode and optimize the heat between the two