Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-25 Thread Chris Albertson
>> Phase-locked Loop Circuit Design H. Wolaver: >> http://www.on4jln.be/pll_wolaver.pdf > > The long does not open as it should. Infact, when poking around your > homepage it seems like several links has the same effect... not found. I found it on his site. Try this link. http://www.on4jln.be/in

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Jean-Louis, On 12/24/2010 01:22 AM, Jean-Louis Noel wrote: Hi Chris, From: "Chris Albertson" What phase noise should be expected if a conventional PPL was used? Phase-locked Loop Circuit Design H. Wolaver: http://www.on4jln.be/pll_wolaver.pdf The long does not open as it should. Inf

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread Jean-Louis Noel
Hi Chris, From: "Chris Albertson" What phase noise should be expected if a conventional PPL was used? Phase-locked Loop Circuit Design H. Wolaver: http://www.on4jln.be/pll_wolaver.pdf Bye, Jean-Louis ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.c

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/23/2010 09:52 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: I just looked up what it would take to build a 10:1 conjugate regenerative divider. This is not easy nor cheap. The conjugate number turn out to be f/10 and 9f/10. 9f/10 is close to f. Filters for 1 MHz and 9 MHz with sufficient Q-value is cheap

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Albertson
>> >> Scott >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Joseph Gray >> Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com >> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:39:38 >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measure

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread paul swed
asurement< > time-nuts@febo.com> > Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards > > Not knowing all the particulars and requirements, I may be off base, > but instead of spend

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-23 Thread scmcgrath
of precise time and frequency measurement Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards Not knowing all the particulars and requirements, I may be off base, but instead of spending money trying to frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-22 Thread paul swed
y, December 21, 2010 10:03 PM > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards > > > A good question for the group... >> /tvb >> >> Hi: >&g

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Lutwak
http://www.wenzel.com/pdffiles1/Dividers/LNFDN.pdf -RL --- -- From: "Tom Van Baak" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:03 PM To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Subject: [time-nuts] Question

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-21 Thread Joseph Gray
Not knowing all the particulars and requirements, I may be off base, but instead of spending money trying to frequency stabilize a 20+ year old radio (HF-80), wouldn't it make more sense to spend it on a modern, inexpensive HF rig? You can even get a TCXO option for some rigs. This should be stable

Re: [time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
A conjugate regenerative divider will have asinewave output. It only requires a mixer an amplifier or two and a couple of bandpass filters. It will have lower phase noise than all(?) alternative techniques. Bruce Tom Van Baak wrote: A good question for the group... /tvb Hi: I have both a

[time-nuts] Question on GPS and reference standards

2010-12-21 Thread Tom Van Baak
A good question for the group... /tvb Hi: I have both a GPS Frequency standard (Trimble Thunder Bolt) which outputs the 10 MHz reference and also the 1 PPS signal. In addition, I have a Collins AEU unit which has a 10 MHz Rubidium reference inside. Both units work well and produce a very accura