Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-07 Thread MailLists
It depends what you mean under professional... an individual that pushes buttons for a wage, having no clue about what's actually happening underneath, or an individual that knows his business in, and out? The definition in my book is the second one, and I met many amateurs (aka hobbyists, with

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-07 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 8/7/2013 3:44 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: /These phone now days have quad core 32-bit CPUs and GPUs that can be tapped for compting power for thing like FFTs and other DSP./ Much less is needed... next September it will be released a new SDR that runs on an ARM Cortex M4F, single core, that

[time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question...

2013-08-07 Thread Burt I. Weiner
consistent. Is the State of The Art exceeding the state of the need? Burt, K6OQK From: Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question Funny that those toys that come with Linux pretty much run the entire Internet and every Android phone

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question...

2013-08-07 Thread Chris Albertson
Got some examples? Without specific you risk sounding like some old guy says to days music is no good the old stuff was better Which of course was every year for the last three hundred years. But it could be that much software is poorly designed. It is so easy now to write something and publish

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question...

2013-08-07 Thread J. Forster
The trend to add more and more fearures to electronic gadgets is a real pain, IMO. I have a Garmin Nuvi and you basically have to do a royal flush of every stored parameter to simply clear the 'trail of bread crumbs'. The thing has so many modes that it is really annoying to use and there seems

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-07 Thread Russ Ramirez
Much less is needed... next September it will be released a new SDR that runs on an ARM Cortex M4F, single core, that does not need a PC to work. And on that ARM there will be no Linux nor Windows... programming just to the bare metal... FFTs are done, fast convolutions, spectrum and waterfall

[time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question... (Burt I. Weiner)

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Kemppainen
-0700 From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question... Message-ID: 590479.76849...@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Chris and all, It seems to me that a lot of the new

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question... (Burt I. Weiner)

2013-08-07 Thread Tammy A Wisdom
at. As for time-nuts and radio, I think SDR is a great place to tie them together. Dan N8XJK On 8/7/2013 12:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:25:13 -0700 From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-07 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 8/7/2013 6:02 PM, Russ Ramirez wrote: /Hi Alberto, can you say which SDR software this is? I have a TI TIVA board that is M4F based and am wondering if this new SDR code will support boards like this./ Hi Russ, I am afraid it is not a software untied to a specific hardware... The

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Hi Chris, The Mac OS X user base is also growing rapidly, with many preferring the X desktop to Winders. And, under the hood is BSD unix (sort of).. And there is MkLinux if you don't like OS X.. It depends of it you want to be the kind of ham who understands radios and can build and

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 8/6/2013 5:12 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: /It depends of it you want to be the kind of ham who understands radios and can build and design them or the kind who would have never remove the cover off his commercial built radio.Linux is the best OS for developers and those who like to build

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, I'm writing this on an iMac. I'm a long time BSD Unix user going back to about 1980. Now, FINALLY we can say the UNIX and Linux are the most commonly used OSes in the wold as one of those runs on most phones. Linux is in Androids and a unix varient is on iPhones and Macs I remember going

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread gchafee
Have you ever looked at the unit put out by Ariel Rocholl called the RF Explorer? (link - http://micro.arocholl.com/) I bought one of these units and although they do not have everything ( I would love to have different demods on it), it has been an impressive unit, and inexpensive. I

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Orin Eman
Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix Microsoft DID sell a re-branded Unix. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, I'm writing this on an iMac. I'm a long time BSD Unix user going back to about 1980. Now, FINALLY we can say the

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes. I rememebr. I used one back when it was new. Getting back to the OP, what he was looking for. And SDR has two parts, a hardware front end and some software. Those two parts can be mostly independent. I'd suggest finding one or two or so SDR software system you like then collecting

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Mark C. Stephens
-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013 7:04 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question On 8/6/2013 5:12 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: /It depends of it you want to be the kind of ham

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Chris Albertson
looked back. --marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013 7:04 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question On 8/6/2013 5:12 AM

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
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[time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread J. Forster
OK. Thanks everybody. Can you please reccomend a make/model? I'd like something like: 75 to 1300 MHz USB Ability to function as a crude SA. Not crawling w/ birdies or aliasing issues. Will run on Win XP. Demod selecttable for all modes at all frequencies. In a package, rather than a loose PCB.

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread Bob Stewart
From: J. Forster j...@quikus.com To: hp_agilent_equipm...@yahoogroups.com; tekscop...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Time-nuts@febo.com; testequiptra...@yahoogroups.com; armyrad...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: [time-nuts] SDR Radio

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:52 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: OK. Thanks everybody. Can you please reccomend a make/model? Will run on Win XP. The above seems an odd requirement. Why? -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread J. Forster
I assume you mean XP? Several reasons: Used Thinkpads that will run XP are cheap and plentiful. I hate Vista and Win 7... I'm interested in a turnkey tool, not SW 'elegance', etc. -John == On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:52 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: OK. Thanks everybody.

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread J. Forster
...@quikus.com To: hp_agilent_equipm...@yahoogroups.com; tekscop...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Time-nuts@febo.com; testequiptra...@yahoogroups.com; armyrad...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question OK. Thanks everybody. Can you please reccomend

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread wb6bnq
Hi John, I don't think you quite got it yet. All of those types of Dongles have no frontend filtering and no gain control (AGC). Basically it is a diode (so to speak) looking at the spectrum from DC to Daylight, even though they have a limited range. So, yes, there will be birdies and

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 8/5/2013 11:52 PM, J. Forster wrote: 75 to 1300 MHz USB Ability to function as a crude SA. Not crawling w/ birdies or aliasing issues. Will run on Win XP. Demod selecttable for all modes at all frequencies. In a package, rather than a loose PCB. $150 I bought this from China :

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread J. Forster
Hi John, I don't think you quite got it yet. All of those types of Dongles have no frontend filtering and no gain control (AGC). Oh, I'm all too familiar w/ SAs without YIG preselectors. That's why I've always preferred AILtech to HP. Basically it is a diode (so to speak) looking at the

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If it's cheap enough to make disappointment a minor issue - go for it. There will be spurs at the clock frequency(s) and harmonics there of. At some input level you will seeintermod issues. Weather they are bad enough for you to care about - only a trial can tell. Bob On Aug 5, 2013,

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question - some links

2013-08-05 Thread Bill Ezell
I didn't see this mentioned (then again, I get tired of scrolling thru all the copies of all the responses). January '13 issue of QST had a nice article by K3ACT about how to actually get all the pieces (hardware and software) hooked up, along with a simple upconverter to push the LF end down

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Albertson
If you stay on Windows instead of Linux, you will find many more SDR programs, and more refined. If instead you prefer spend your time with configure, compilations, debugging, search of the correct version of the libraries, etc. then I warmly recommend you Linux... flame suits on :-)