hold Ulrich in high regard and I wanted to make sure and mention
his work here) His website is no longer available so I thought I would
host the modified version on my web server:
http://www.nc7j.com/downloads/NG7M/Time-Nuts/Z38XX-Modified-for-Lucent-Z3811A-Z3812A/
The zip file in this directory
Boy I have dug through the program and can not seem to find a way to clear
out the graphs. Tried exports and other things.
Anyone know the secret please?
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL
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Paul,
I don't know for certain but with the limited playing around I have done
with this program, I would start by renaming the data file and then let
the program restart a new file from which I assume the graphs are
plotted.
I forget the file name off hand, might be something .dat or similar.
, December 8, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Ulrichs program question How do you restart the
graphs.
Boy I have dug through the program and can not seem to find a way to clear
out the graphs. Tried exports and other things.
Anyone know the secret please?
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL
without paying
close attention to the name when I start a new test.
Bob
From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com
To: Time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Ulrichs program question How do you restart
the graphs.
Boy I have dug
Hi Mike,
Many thanks for the information, but as I understood it the question was
asked with regards to the Z38xx Telecom styled units and not those variants
such as the HP58503 series that were indeed built into HP desktop cases as
you describe.
The HP Z3801A etc and similar units from
I have a couple questions regarding the Z38xx type units. I have a Z3801A,
and a couple other modules that don't need a full 19 rack space. The Z38xx
units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are not
suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet.
Looking in the Z3801A manual, I
dgmin...@mediacombb.net said:
The Z38xx units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers)
Looking in the Z3801A manual, I see that the rack trays that these units are
mounted in are 28.5 wide ...
I think lots of (most?) Telco gear uses 23 inch racks.
--
These are my opinions. I hate spam.
Something I've done for several projects is to seek help from these
nice folk:
http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
A custom panel I did so I could rack-mount my Comcrap cable modem
(along with the rest of the network gear) ran about $75 or so.
What I would suggest
Yes many telco racks of old were 24 and as I recall nasa or someone had
28.
That said I did what Bruce suggest some 8-10 years ago. Al panel spray
painted to math the 3801 and cut a hole to fit the unit. Not having clever
tools lots of drill holes a hack saw and then cleanup with a file. Came out
Hi Dave
Many thanks for the MTI260 data, that's very useful and much appreciated.
As regards the the Z38xx modules, my Z3801As actually measure 10 9/16
between the front panel edges but obviously still too much to fit two like that
into a standard 19 inch rack.
I've considered two
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From: Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net
To: FEBO Time Nuts time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:44 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts
I have a couple questions regarding the Z38xx type units. I have a Z3801A,
and a couple other modules that don't
Plan B and a half. or C and three quarters or whatever:-)
I just measured a Z3801A case, can't speak for any others in the series,
and that measures 9 1/4 inches from one outside edge of the front panel to
the opposite side of the box itself.
Cutting off opposing edges from two front
On 10/22/2014 4:44 PM, Dave M wrote:
The Z38xx
units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are not
suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet.
The Nortel GPSR (aka HP z3801a) was mounted vertically in a chassis
which was itself rack mounted. It's 11 tall, not wide.
I should also add check your racks mileage may very a bit...
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:10 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Well accept one possible problem the open width of a 19 rack is typically
18.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Well accept one possible problem the open width of a 19 rack is typically
18.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
time-nuts@febo.com wrote:
Plan B and a half. or C and three quarters or whatever:-)
I just measured a Z3801A case, can't speak
It's actually not a problem, as I mentioned before the boxes themselves are
only 8 inches wide and centered in the panel.
If you cut each panel down to 9 1/2 inches that would leave a separation
between the boxes themselves of 1/2 inch so overall width behind the panel
would be 16 1/2
Mike S wrote:
On 10/22/2014 4:44 PM, Dave M wrote:
The Z38xx
units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are
not suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet.
The Nortel GPSR (aka HP z3801a) was mounted vertically in a chassis
which was itself rack mounted. It's 11 tall, not wide.
Nigel,
These are standard HP 1/2 rack units. The rubber bezel around the
front and back peel off. HP (Agilent, now Keysight) makes a Link Lock
Kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-Lock-Link-Kit-5061-5458-/291271152251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item43d11d127b
to connect the units. The
haven't found cal in the words on a Z3815A but is present on the Z380x
series.
-marki
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Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 6:45 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts
Hi Murray,
On 06/18/2013 04:10 AM, Murray Greenman wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone made further progress in understanding the PFORTH commands?
I have figured out roughly what most of them do, but then again it is
fairly obvious from their name.
cal performs tempco calibration and you should put the
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Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX PFORTH interpreter question
Hi Murray,
On 06/18/2013 04:10 AM, Murray Greenman wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone made further
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Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 6:45 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
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Hi Murray,
On 06/18/2013 04:10 AM, Murray Greenman wrote:
Hi,
Has
Hi,
Has anyone made further progress in understanding the PFORTH commands?
I find with my Z3815A (with an E1938A hockey puck oscillator installed) that
the command 'puck' returns:
a= -6.305066e-13 b= 0.00e00 a/d = 1.60e+01
puck communication is alive
puck warm= 1
puck EFC ADC err= 0
You might find there are either hard links on the board or different firmware?
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Of Murray Greenman
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013 12:10 PM
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Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
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Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Gentlemen,
due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources and
found that indeed every
.
Thanks Again,
mark
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Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Gentlemen,
due to the discussion that evolved concerning
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On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Gentlemen,
due to the discussion that evolved concerning
Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software.
Thanks Again,
mark
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Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Gentlemen,
due
Gentlemen,
due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources
and found that indeed every time the current time is read using a
:PTIM:TCOD?
a
:PTIM:TCOD:FORM F2
is sent in advance to make the receiver answer in the format that Z38XX
needs. I have not been aware that
Hi
My experience has been that if you write the *same* setup to NVRAM on a 53131
once every few minutes, you wear out the memory while they are still in
warranty….
Bob
On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote:
Gentlemen,
due to the discussion that evolved
Thanks Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software.
Thanks Again,
mark
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Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Gentlemen
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Of Ed Palmer
Sent: Sunday, 21 April 2013 9:51 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Hi Mark,
I looked in the manual, but I can't see where it says that the command is
written to NVRAM. Where did you find that?
Ed
On 4/20/2013 11:53 AM, Mark C
I have noticed Z38XX constantly sends:
:PTIME:TCODE FORM F2
Reading the documentation, this is a NVRAM command - it is supposedly written
to NVRAM each time it is issued.
Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for long
enough?
Or perhaps it only writes when the
Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for long
enough?
The static format spec, not the dynamic time code, is written to NVRAM; read
once per reboot.
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Tom it would indeed wear out the NVRAM especially the vintage used in the
old 3801. I think that was circa 1998?
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote:
Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for
long enough?
The static format
Van Baak ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:44 PM
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Tom it would indeed wear out the NVRAM especially the vintage used in the old
3801. I think that was circa 1998?
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom
Hi Mark,
I looked in the manual, but I can't see where it says that the command
is written to NVRAM. Where did you find that?
Ed
On 4/20/2013 11:53 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote:
I have noticed Z38XX constantly sends:
:PTIME:TCODE FORM F2
Reading the documentation, this is a NVRAM command -
'scuse me, i am mobile at the moment, I think it was 58503 manual.
But it is easy enough to prove as what one set the time format (f1 or f2) to is
persistant across a power cycle.
Mark
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On 21/04/2013, at 10:01, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote:
Hi Mark,
I looked in
Maybe a dumb question. Just got my new oscillator hooked up to my Fury board.
Using the z38xx program of Ulrichs. Can someone help me wrap my head around
the pps TI /s? It seems to be confusing me. May dovetail into the counter
thread.
Doc
KX0O
Sent from mobile
The TI (time interval) is the measure of the stability/accuracy of your
clock: TI is always the same figure - clock is stable, TI is always 0 -
stable and accurate.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe a dumb question. Just got my new oscillator hooked
and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805
Hi Bob,
I have a Z3801A and I am not sure whether the SCIP commands are the
same as for the Z3805A. There must be some differences related to the
channel numbers and serial post configuration at least I would expect. I
think
On 8/2/2010 11:45 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi
The boxes all seem to go into survey, complete it and then happily lock up.
One seems to have a broken lock LED, but z38xx shows it running fine.
If I understand you correctly, there is no real write to eeprom command.
It's just a matter of
Hi
What's the current thinking on saving the survey position on a z3805? Each time
mine power cycle they come back believing they are in Korea somewhere.
Is there a simple do these three things recipe to get it saved to eeprom?
It's not a real big deal since they take quite a while to
Have you tried entering the position data manually ?
GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT
altitude in meters
On 8/1/2010 2:04 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi
What's the current thinking on saving the survey position on a z3805? Each time
mine power cycle they come back believing they are in Korea
Hi
Does that save it to eeprom?
I'm happy with the result of the survey, so a single command to save it may be
all that's needed.
Bob
On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Brian Kirby wrote:
Have you tried entering the position data manually ?
GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT
altitude in
Hi Bob,
I have a Z3801A and I am not sure whether the SCIP commands are the
same as for the Z3805A. There must be some differences related to the
channel numbers and serial post configuration at least I would expect. I
think the following apply.
You need to not only be able to provide a
Gentlemen,
Said Jackson has just informed me that some compatibility issues that
existed in earlier versions of my Z38XX tool and his range of products have
been solved in the latest version that is available for download from now.
I have started to think about setting the PC's clock with the
Hi Ulrich,
Thanks a lot for the reply
still my Q is ... when you open the parameters window it is asking what
is line nbr of tracked/untracked sats? and the default is line nbr
11...and sats data line nbr from 13 to sats data line to 18, but I believe
if I change the
: Samstag, 18. Juli 2009 19:03
An: time-nuts@febo.com
Betreff: [time-nuts] Z38XX software and HP 58503A
I have been using the Z38XX software (thanks Ulrich!) for a
while now with my 58503A and it's worked very well. I
recently installed the update that included the spelling
corrections
Guys,
I have uploaded a new version of Z38XX with the following improvements:
1) A really god manual written by Murray Greenman is available now. It is
included in the .zip file
2) The preset command list in the Manual Command Entry window is complete
now
3) After 3 minutes of inactivity of
Ulrich,
Thanks again for an excellent tool that just keeps on getting better.
You have pre-empted my thoughts on adding a timeout to the manual
entry mode, I got caught out by that just yesterday. I also like the
new data file system.
One thing with the manual entry commands, unfortunately these
I have been using the Z38XX software (thanks Ulrich!) for a while now with
my 58503A and it's worked very well. I recently installed the update that
included the spelling corrections and displayed the date along with the
time, and found to my dismay that this version no longer worked with my
, Jul 18, 2009 7:03 pm
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX software and HP 58503A
I have been using the Z38XX software (thanks Ulrich!) for a while now
with
my 58503A and it's worked very well. I recently installed the update
that
included the spelling corrections and displayed the date along
Guys,
I have just uploaded a new version of Z38XX with the following improvements:
1) Displays time AND date in the Nixie clock window
2) Knows how to read date time from Jackson Labs receivers, so the the
clock window will function with them too.
3) Has a new Manual Command Entry which,
Any plan to make it work with the thunderbolts as well?
Dave
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Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: 15 July 2009 15:57
To: Time nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Guys,
I have just uploaded a new version
. Juli 2009 18:26
An: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Any plan to make it work with the thunderbolts as well?
Dave
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[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf
Hello Ulrich,
I tested this, and it works like a charm on the FireFly units.
Thanks much again!
Said
In a message dated 7/15/2009 07:58:03 Pacific Daylight Time,
df...@ulrich-bangert.de writes:
Guys,
I have just uploaded a new version of Z38XX with the following
improvements:
1)
Ulrich,
First, many thanks for all the delevopment you have done and share
freely. You and John Miles are both to be commended for so much of this
kind of work.
I have a Z3816A and tried your program. Seems it would need to be
updated to support this GPS receiver. I think it is pretty
Sorry I got the middle link wrong. Corrected below.
Rex wrote:
Ulrich,
First, many thanks for all the delevopment you have done and share
freely. You and John Miles are both to be commended for so much of
this kind of work.
I have a Z3816A and tried your program. Seems it would need to
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