Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the saga continues

2011-07-07 Thread Didier Juges
There is no pin-compatible replacement processor, at least not in a compatible package. I could use a C8051F300 which is available in a 14 pin SO package, but I have not had time to switch the software over to that chip. It would not be too hard to wire the SO-14 package to an existing board

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread David VanHorn
Vf is highly dependent on current and temperature. The processor alone is a very dynamic load. I wouldn't trust it in a hobby project, and I can't imagine proposing it for a professional design. Without knowing much in details, a bog standard 3.3V regulator is $0.78 at Digikley, in singles.

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread Chris Albertson
You forget that this Fluke.L guy's first design replaced three diodes with wire jumpers to save the cost of three diodes. The builder is cheap beyond all reason. To a guy who'd replace diodes with wire $0.78 must seem like a fortune. I'd use a 3.3 volt reg also but in China 78 cents is what?

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread Jim Cotton
It is between four and five Yuan. Four Yuan at the local market will buy what four dollars will buy in the US (as long as you are not buying imported goods). jcc On 7/7/11 11:06 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: You forget that this Fluke.L guy's first design replaced three diodes with wire jumpers

[time-nuts] Lightspeed (leagalese) vs GPS .. Final report

2011-07-07 Thread Pete Lancashire
http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/final-report-fcc-working-group-lose-lightsquared-l-band-11848 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Lightspeed (leagalese) vs GPS .. Final report

2011-07-07 Thread Bob Bownes
Nice summary: “In the end, the laws of physics won out.” On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com wrote: http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/final-report-fcc-working-group-lose-lightsquared-l-band-11848 ___

Re: [time-nuts] Lightspeed (leagalese) vs GPS .. Final report

2011-07-07 Thread gary
It occurred to me that after the Sirius/XM merger, there is a chunk of spectrum not really being used efficiently. You have to wonder what the suits at Sirius/XM are thinking. Dumping one of the bands will piss off millions. But dumping one of the bands and putting something like Lightsquared

Re: [time-nuts] Lightspeed (leagalese) vs GPS .. Final report

2011-07-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Bob Bownes bow...@gmail.com wrote: “In the end, the laws of physics won out.” Of course the laws of physics won out in a GPS Wold summary. In the real world the FCC will figure that as long as car navigation GPS still work 85% of the time that is good enough.

Re: [time-nuts] Kinemetrics 60-TF...

2011-07-07 Thread tcxo
Majdi, If nobody comes through with a pdf version, I can make a hard-copy version of the manual for you. (I don't have a scanner.) In that case, contact me offline and I'll make the copy. There will probably be about a 1 week delay for me to get it done. 73, Greg - Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread Peter Vince
But surely it doesn't matter David? There is nothing critical in there, it's just a display. As long as the voltage is within the processor's operating window, that is surely good enough? Peter On 7 July 2011 15:48, David VanHorn d.vanh...@elec-solutions.com wrote: Vf is highly dependent on

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared (leagalese) vs GPS .. Final report

2011-07-07 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 07/07/2011 11:52 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Bob Bownesbow...@gmail.com wrote: “In the end, the laws of physics won out.” Of course the laws of physics won out in a GPS Wold summary. In the real world the FCC will figure that as long as car navigation GPS

[time-nuts] Lightsquared, time-nuts and the press

2011-07-07 Thread Chris Howard
I just had a phone conversation with someone who said she was a reporter for the NY Post about the comment I put in at the FCC regarding the Lightsquared report. I told her I heard about the issue at time-nuts. Chris ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread David VanHorn
There are levels of it works... Level 1 is I built one and it works. Level 2 is I built one like yours and it works. Level 3 is I built a bunch and they all work. Level 4 is I built a million and they all work. Level five adds environmental issues, EMI and ESD. I usually work at level

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . .the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread WB6BNQ
So David, Does that mean you are going to layout a proper new board for all of us ? As I am sure you are aware, the original procesor does not appear to be available so that would mean a new design using a current or cutting edge cpu version. Of course the new unit would have to be as cheap

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . .the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread David VanHorn
I did pretty well for the HamHud community when I did the HHII board in about 48 hours to get it out in time for Dayton. I might be much more tempted to put a Bluetooth interface on the Tbolt and do the display as a Droid app. There are many ways to go, but for something like this. I wouldn't

Re: [time-nuts] fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt .. .the sagacontinues

2011-07-07 Thread WB6BNQ
David, I think you completely missed my point ! Too be honest, I was poking fun at your rather STIFF rebuke. The display concept was a project that a list member did for himself and then told the list membership about it. Fluke.L stole the idea lock, stock and barrel including the software

[time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-07 Thread Hal Murray
I think I'm missing a key idea. The proposal is to turn off TEC. I think that's because it's a pain-in-the-ass for the guys who have to run the big control loops. Why not just reduce the time-constant on that portion of the control loop. Instead of trying to catch up each day, how about