Re: [time-nuts] Racal OCXO Option 04E

2012-03-25 Thread cfo
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:36:03 -0700, Larry McDavid wrote: > ABC Electronics (unknown to me) has listed on eBay as Item 330706988007 > seven Racal 9462 P/N 454879 Rev A ocxo supplied by Racal as Option 04E. > The seller describes these as 5 MHz but the picture shows the Racal > frequency doubler boa

Re: [time-nuts] Racal OCXO Option 04E

2012-03-25 Thread dlewis6767
Does it have a way to 'control' it (discipline?) for use in a gps-timing application. -- -Original Message- From: cfo Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:27 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] R

[time-nuts] Interesting article on magnetic storms

2012-03-25 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
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Re: [time-nuts] TBolt-PRS10

2012-03-25 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Juerg wrote: Having a M12+Timing GPS driving the 1 Hz input of my PRS10. I decided to upgrade my house referenc switching to a Tbolt as the 1 Hz source. * * * Tests showed maximum deviation of 2 nsec with the Tbolt over 1000 seconds * * * Here are my questions: Are 2 nsec acceptabl

[time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread cfo
I need a distribution amp for my Tbolt , with 6..8+ outputs The TAPR-1 is NA , and the successor status is ???. I need it for distributing 10Mhz ref-clock to Counters (HP,Racal,Phillips), a Rigol Sig-gen & maybe Oscilloscopes etc. It's for "better than ocxo/hobby use" , and not Tnut (ps accurac

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
I think people have used video amps. I got one recently for nearly zero cost and it works as spec'd but video signals are typically 1 volt peak to peak and the amp is spec'd for "10MHz, 1dB" which means I'm right at the limit and I'm a 1 dB down, just as the spec says. Is 1V P-P enough for your eq

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Larry McDavid
Chris, that's got to be a really old video distribution amplifier. I was just given a thin rack-mount video distribution amplifier with ten outputs and the specification says 300 MHz bandwidth at 3 dB. I have not measured its output level. It is made by Kramer and has BNC and S-video in/out but

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
cfo wrote: I need a distribution amp for my Tbolt , with 6..8+ outputs The TAPR-1 is NA , and the successor status is ???. I need it for distributing 10Mhz ref-clock to Counters (HP,Racal,Phillips), a Rigol Sig-gen& maybe Oscilloscopes etc. It's for "better than ocxo/hobby use" , and not Tnut

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread paul swed
Well the easy answer. The older 1984 video amps would roll off above 6 MC or so. However as the IC technology took over they easily could do 30 Mhz. I have used Grass valley 8500 series for at least 10-15 years and the work very well. I also have sets of Leitch DAs that are fine. Picked up the whol

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Pete Lancashire
Sounds like Paul and I have similar DA's or will soon when a Leitch gets to the front porch next week. Its bandwidth is spec'd at 30 MHz. The only question I have on using DA's is the effect of them being designed to work in a 75 ohm environment. One thing to watch out for is what cards they have

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Tom Knox
Has anyone measured Phase Noise on any of these distribution amps? By looking at how widely the PN specs vary on the application specific Symmetricom and HP DA's it would be interesting to see how well these video da's perform in comparison. Thomas Knox > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:28:56 -07

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > The only question I have on using DA's is the effect of them being designed to > work in a 75 ohm environment. Swap out a few resistors and you can fix the above problem.unless they used those 75 ohm BNCs but those are rare and if

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I haven't measured the video amps, but here are plots of an HP 5087A, TADD-1, and Spectracom 8140 tap unit for a baseline: http://febo.com/pages/amplifier_phase_noise/ John Tom Knox said the following on 03/25/2012 03:48 PM: Has anyone measured Phase Noise on any of these distribution a

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Bruce wrote: A circuit schematic for a current feedback triple with reasonably low noise and distortion is attached. One caution regarding the 100 uH inductor (L3) -- many inductors of this value exhibit self-resonance below 10 MHz, so some care may be necessary in selection. Best regards,

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Pete Lancashire
I'm 99% sure that is all it is .. one thing nice about using something designed 20 yrs ago is it wont be a hybrid with the termination on the ceramic. :-) On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Pete Lancashire > wrote: > >> >> The only questi

[time-nuts] Piezo 2910109

2012-03-25 Thread n1jez
I have just pulled a 10 MHz Piezo model 2910109 from an old C band uplink system. Anyone have a pinout? It has seven pins of which two were connected. Tnx! Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Dave M
I need a distribution amp for my Tbolt , with 6..8+ outputs The TAPR-1 is NA , and the successor status is ???. I need it for distributing 10Mhz ref-clock to Counters (HP,Racal,Phillips), a Rigol Sig-gen & maybe Oscilloscopes etc. It's for "better than ocxo/hobby use" , and not Tnut (ps accur

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread cfo
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:16 +1300, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Bruce Griffiths wrote: > A circuit schematic for a current feedback triple with reasonably low > noise and distortion is attached. > > Bruce Thanx Bruce I'm an analog noob , so i have some questions. If i multiply that schematic by

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread paul swed
Thats the RGB amps I have used the Extrons. Its in the basement and worked very well. Could not remember the name. On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM, cfo wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:16 +1300, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > > > Bruce Griffiths wrote: > > > A circuit schematic for a current feedbac

[time-nuts] New M12+ and M12M compatible GPS module

2012-03-25 Thread Rick Hambly (W2GPS)
For those of you looking for a new design GPS receiver module compatible with the Motorola M12+ and M12M receivers, Synergy has developed the u-blox based SSR-6Tr that is plug compatible with M12x receivers. The SSR-6tr includes Motorola binary protocol as well as u-blox binary and NMEA protocol

[time-nuts] Lucent GPS Timing Antenna question

2012-03-25 Thread Jerry Mulchin
I just picked up a Lucent KS-24019L116 GPS Timing antenna and wondered if anyone here has information on the antenna. I do know that it has 40dB of gain. But I don't know what the power supply voltage is suppose to be. I would assume +5VDC. If any has information I would appreciate getting it if p

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread gary
I'm not so sure about the circuit. The base drive on Q3 is more of less AC given that the resistor can only pull current out of the base. That is, I don't see a DC bias on Q3. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to htt

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread David
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:39:57 -0700, gary wrote: >I'm not so sure about the circuit. The base drive on Q3 is more of less >AC given that the resistor can only pull current out of the base. That >is, I don't see a DC bias on Q3. R7, R8, and LED D2 sets the base voltage at about 1.8 volts through

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread gary
Gotcha. LEDs are hetero junction, yielding more than a diode drop. On 3/25/2012 5:05 PM, David wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:39:57 -0700, gary wrote: I'm not so sure about the circuit. The base drive on Q3 is more of less AC given that the resistor can only pull current out of the base. That

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread gary
I forgot to mention that those old jedec part numbers specify a package and electrical limit under one part number. That is, you can't find say a 1n914 in SMD, but you can find direct equivalents with other numbers. You will find supply houses listing SMD versions of jedec parts, but technicall

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Javier Herrero
El 26/03/2012 02:35, gary escribió: I forgot to mention that those old jedec part numbers specify a package and electrical limit under one part number. That is, you can't find say a 1n914 in SMD, but you can find direct equivalents with other numbers. You will find supply houses listing SMD ver

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread gary
MMBD914 !=1n914. 1n914BWTm i.e. using a suffix, is something I haven't seen before, but technically 1N914BWT != 1n914. That is, in the strict sense, the 1n914 has to be a diode in that glass package. On 3/25/2012 5:48 PM, Javier Herrero wrote: El 26/03/2012 02:35, gary escribió: I forgot t

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: Bruce wrote: A circuit schematic for a current feedback triple with reasonably low noise and distortion is attached. One caution regarding the 100 uH inductor (L3) -- many inductors of this value exhibit self-resonance below 10 MHz, so some care may be necessary

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amp - Use a video amp unit ?

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
cfo wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:16 +1300, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: A circuit schematic for a current feedback triple with reasonably low noise and distortion is attached. Bruce Thanx Bruce I'm an analog noob , so i have some questions. If i mul